"The definition of a 'Digerati'"

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"The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:20 pm

http://wikipediocracy.com/2012/06/27/the-definition-of-a-digerati/:
Her BLP was tagged for deletion THREE TIMES, unsuccessfully. Judging from the AFD [Articles for Deletion in Wikipedia jargon -- ed.] in April 2005, before the creation of two biographies, one for the Metafilter admin and one for the novelist, there was a single article (Jessamyn West), purely about the Metafilter admin and not the novelist. There was a VFD before the AFD that was merged into the AFD, and thus made to disappear. It appears that the Metafilter admin may have created the original article, and said nothing about the novelist. A disambig and two articles were created—right in the middle of that 2005 AFD, and very quietly. Original edit history appears to have been lost in the process. There is some evidence that the AFD was sockpuppeted — by someone, Dpbsmith’s protestations that she wasn’t directly involved notwithstanding.
Actually, the original edit history wasn't lost; it was moved to "Jessamyn West (writer)":

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=move&page=Jessamyn_West

An anon created the original "Jessamyn West" article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessamyn_West_%28writer%29&diff=11819770

Dcfleck nominated it for deletion around four minutes later and calls it a vanity page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessamyn_West_%28writer%29&diff=11821188&oldid=11819770

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jessamyn_West&diff=11819996

Less than an hour later, Dpbsmith appears, votes "Keeps", and expands the article to include information on the Quaker author:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jessamyn_West&diff=11822612&oldid=11821093

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessamyn_West_%28writer%29&diff=11846109&oldid=11821188
Her BLP was tagged for deletion THREE TIMES, unsuccessfully. Judging from the AFD [Articles for Deletion in Wikipedia jargon -- ed.] in April 2005, before the creation of two biographies, one for the Metafilter admin and one for the novelist, there was a single article (Jessamyn West), purely about the Metafilter admin and not the novelist. There was a VFD before the AFD that was merged into the AFD, and thus made to disappear. It appears that the Metafilter admin may have created the original article, and said nothing about the novelist. A disambig and two articles were created—right in the middle of that 2005 AFD, and very quietly. Original edit history appears to have been lost in the process. There is some evidence that the AFD was sockpuppeted — by someone, Dpbsmith’s protestations that she wasn’t directly involved notwithstanding.
Incorrect. It wasn't done quickly. Dpbsmith announces his intentions to split the article hours before actually splitting it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FJessamyn_West&diff=11834529&oldid=11833536

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessamyn_West_%28librarian%29&diff=11846762

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessamyn_West_%28writer%29&diff=11846152&oldid=11846109

In addition, the disambiguation page wasn't created until October 2005:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=move&page=Jessamyn_West
Her BLP was tagged for deletion THREE TIMES, unsuccessfully. Judging from the AFD [Articles for Deletion in Wikipedia jargon -- ed.] in April 2005, before the creation of two biographies, one for the Metafilter admin and one for the novelist, there was a single article (Jessamyn West), purely about the Metafilter admin and not the novelist. There was a VFD before the AFD that was merged into the AFD, and thus made to disappear. It appears that the Metafilter admin may have created the original article, and said nothing about the novelist. A disambig and two articles were created—right in the middle of that 2005 AFD, and very quietly. Original edit history appears to have been lost in the process. There is some evidence that the AFD was sockpuppeted — by someone, Dpbsmith’s protestations that she wasn’t directly involved notwithstanding.
Not true. The VfD discussion didn't disappear. The VfD discussion became the AfD discussion via a move by a bot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=move&page=Wikipedia%3AVotes_for_deletion%2FJessamyn_West

The VfD discussion and the AfD discussion are one and the same; the VfD discussion didn't disappear; there wasn't a merge.

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Re: "The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by lilburne » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:30 pm

What is a VFD?
They have been inserting little memes in everybody's mind
So Google's shills can shriek there whenever they're inclined

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Re: "The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:41 pm

lilburne wrote:What is a VFD?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&user=&page=Wikipedia%3AVotes_for_deletion

Votes for deletion. It's the original name for "Articles for deletion".

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Re: "The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by Tarc » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:05 pm

If you're hoping to reach a wider audience then that wiki-jargon needs to be written out, the ed. notes don't cut it.
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Re: "The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by EricBarbour » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:31 am

I dunno how Michael can even follow that mess. And that should be the point, it's a mess. Wikipedia's great idea: make things obscure and
difficult to decode, so you can heel content via misdirection and manipulation.

If anyone reading this has a Metafilter account, could you go and post this blog entry on Ask MeFi?
And post the link here? Lulz will come to us quickly. I'd do it myself, but I don't want to give them an
opportunity to claim "self-promotion". That's the one thing that Metafilter really hates, and yet it's one
thing that Jessamyn has done repeatedly--on Wikipedia.

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Re: "The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:53 pm

EricBarbour wrote:If anyone reading this has a Metafilter account, could you go and post this blog entry on Ask MeFi?
And post the link here? Lulz will come to us quickly. I'd do it myself, but I don't want to give them an
opportunity to claim "self-promotion". That's the one thing that Metafilter really hates, and yet it's one
thing that Jessamyn has done repeatedly--on Wikipedia.
http://wikipediocracy.com/2012/06/27/the-definition-of-a-digerati/#comment-414:
This link was just posted to the Ask.Metafilter page and a metafilter user was wondering if it had any validity to it and Jessamyn instantly removed it. So whether it’s true or not, she doesn’t want you reading about it.

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Re: "The definition of a 'Digerati'"

Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:43 pm

Michaeldsuarez wrote:http://wikipediocracy.com/2012/06/27/the-definition-of-a-digerati/#comment-414:
This link was just posted to the Ask.Metafilter page and a metafilter user was wondering if it had any validity to it and Jessamyn instantly removed it. So whether it’s true or not, she doesn’t want you reading about it.
Correction:

http://wikipediocracy.com/2012/06/27/the-definition-of-a-digerati/#comment-431:
Not removed by Jessamyn — removed by a different Metafilter admin. See here.

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