Arbcom Elections 2021

[Beeblebrox]

Just noting the pre-RFC is already up and running.
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021 (T-H-L)

So far it looks like the biggest real proposed change is implementing a Single transferable vote (T-H-L) (AKA ranked choice voting) system. I'm also finding the discussion of voting eligibility of partially-blocked users interesting as it is something I hadn't even considered.

[ArmasRebane]

Hmm. Ranked choice would be a very interesting change, and I imagine it'd take a few elections to see how it fundamentally changes (or doesn't) how the election goes and the types of people who win.

The current system definitely enables certain candidates to meet the threshold more by absence of opposition, rather than strength of support, but I don't see how the system, based on the Board elections, would change that—if you don't support someone it essentially is a neutral, and there's really no way to oppose much beyond completely filling out the ballot (and given how few people vote straight support/oppose that won't be likely to me?)

I doubt it'll happen, though. New voting systems, even if better, are often scary for electorates.

[Poetlister]

Just noting the pre-RFC is already up and running.
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021 (T-H-L)

So far it looks like the biggest real proposed change is implementing a Single transferable vote (T-H-L) (AKA ranked choice voting) system. I'm also finding the discussion of voting eligibility of partially-blocked users interesting as it is something I hadn't even considered.

If someone is blocked from say 0.01% of articles, their vote should only count as 0.9999 not 1.

[Beeblebrox]

Oh yeah, the next ACE phase is past us already Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021/Electoral Commission (T-H-L). Probably not that bog of a deal. The next bit is the actual nomination period, which opens November 4.

[Beeblebrox]

Just noting the pre-RFC is already up and running.
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021 (T-H-L)

So far it looks like the biggest real proposed change is implementing a Single transferable vote (T-H-L) (AKA ranked choice voting) system. I'm also finding the discussion of voting eligibility of partially-blocked users interesting as it is something I hadn't even considered.

No big changes came out of this, by the way. Partially blocked users can still vote, bots cannot (seriously, we just now got around to that?) that looks like about it.

[ArmasRebane]

Nominations are now open! Place your bets on how long until the first brave (and foolish) nominee steps forward ahead of the eleventh-hour flood!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... Candidates

[Beeblebrox]

Looking at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021#Vacant seats (T-H-L), it's mostly us crusty old timers whose terms are expiring. I don't recall who has and has not said so publicly, but there's a few who for sure are not running again, and Xeno already resigned. So there may be fairly heavy turnover this year. That's probably a good thing.

[Guerillero]

I am not running this year

[turnedworm]

Looking at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021#Vacant seats (T-H-L), it's mostly us crusty old timers whose terms are expiring. I don't recall who has and has not said so publicly, but there's a few who for sure are not running again, and Xeno already resigned. So there may be fairly heavy turnover this year. That's probably a good thing.

I believe it has been pointed out none of the remaining arbs have terms that go back before 2019.

[Moral Hazard]

It would save a lot of time and energy if Wikipedia just let Tim make his predictions.

[Jans Hammer]

With effulgent support from Kudpung, WWT is the first to put his name forward.
A shoo-in candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi ... _candidacy

[owl be it]

With effulgent support from Kudpung, WWT is the first to put his name forward.
A shoo-in candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi ... _candidacy

Worm What Turned?
Wet Ass Turned?
Worm Cirt Turned?
As The Worm Turns?
Cirt?

[Boing! said Zebedee]

With effulgent support from Kudpung, WWT is the first to put his name forward.
A shoo-in candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi ... _candidacy

Worm What Turned?
Wet Ass Turned?
Worm Cirt Turned?
As The Worm Turns?
Cirt?

I've met him a number of times in real life, and he's definitely not Cirt (or Spartacus, or Brian, or...)

[el84]

With effulgent support from Kudpung, WWT is the first to put his name forward.
A shoo-in candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi ... _candidacy

Worm What Turned?
Wet Ass Turned?
Worm Cirt Turned?
As The Worm Turns?
Cirt?

I've met him a number of times in real life, and he's definitely not Cirt (or Spartacus, or Brian, or...)

If only he were Brian Blessed. Those ZOOM meetings would be a load of fun!

[Vigilant]

People should ask the Worm about how he handled himself in the Frammageddon.

Search this page for 'worm'.

Given what has been shown in this thread

Dave is hardly going to qualify for the Profiles In Courage award.

Moderator's note: Further posts on this subject were split to this other thread.

[Ritchie333]

I suppose I could put myself forward as the Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate, but wouldn't that be disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?

[Vigilant]

I suppose I could put myself forward as the Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate, but wouldn't that be disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?

You'd be a perfect candidate to represent Dunny-on-the-Wold.

[Boing! said Zebedee]

I suppose I could put myself forward as the Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate, but wouldn't that be disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?

I think you'd be a good candidate, Ritchie, you are objective (as well as I can measure it) and 100% honest.

[Ritchie333]

I suppose I could put myself forward as the Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate, but wouldn't that be disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?

I think you'd be a good candidate, Ritchie, you are objective (as well as I can measure it) and 100% honest.

I've also got an active Arbcom sanction, which I think might put a lot of voters off.

[Ritchie333]

I suppose I could put myself forward as the Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate, but wouldn't that be disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?

You'd be a perfect candidate to represent Dunny-on-the-Wold.

If all the other candidates accidentally cut their own heads off while shaving, then it'll be a shoo-in, I guess.

[AngelOne]

I suppose I could put myself forward as the Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate, but wouldn't that be disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?

You'd be a perfect candidate to represent Dunny-on-the-Wold.

If all the other candidates accidentally cut their own heads off while shaving, then it'll be a shoo-in, I guess.

Except for all the candidates that don't shave near their heads.

[orangepi]

Over halfway through the nomination period and ... a total of one candidate. Presumably half a dozen more will appear over the weekend.

[Hemiauchenia]

Wonder if SMcCandlish (T-C-L) will run again, he was easily one of the most controversial candidates last time.

[Vigilant]

Scottywong is the one I'm hoping to see run.

[Smiley]

Wonder if SMcCandlish (T-C-L) will run again, he was easily one of the most controversial candidates last time.

He does occasionally wash up on these benighted shores to tell us what's what.
Will you be running Mr McCandlish?

search.php?author_id=625&sr=posts

Scottywong is the one I'm hoping to see run.

Oh yes, him too. An HtD twofer.

[ArmasRebane]

Over halfway through the nomination period and ... a total of one candidate. Presumably half a dozen more will appear over the weekend.

Every year I'm surprised yet again how many people jump in at the last possible second.

But given that a lot of candidates sometimes seem to just be jumping in depending on how weak the pool is, that's perhaps not surprising.

I don't get the sense the Committee was all that "exciting" this year so that will depress the number of people interested in general.

[Moral Hazard]

Scottywong and Kudpung

[Vigilant]

Someone should ask Fae...

[Hemiauchenia]

Beeb has entered the ring: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2021/Candidates/Beeblebrox (T-H-L)

[Smiley]

Beeb has entered the ring: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2021/Candidates/Beeblebrox (T-H-L)

Those of us who love to see sausage factory bosses make absolute fools of themselves on a regular basis will be voting no repeatedly.

[Hemiauchenia]

Beeb has entered the ring: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2021/Candidates/Beeblebrox (T-H-L)

Those of us who love to see sausage factory bosses make absolute fools of themselves on a regular basis will be voting no repeatedly.

It's going to be interesting to see if Beeblebrox taking a lot of the heat surrounding the RexxS desysop is going to have an effect on his voting performance compared to last election.

[tarantino]

The only question so far for Beebs is from Mikehawk10 (T-C-L). What parent in their right mind with the last name of Hawk would name their kid Mike? Or maybe he's just trolling with it.

[Beeblebrox]

Beeb has entered the ring: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2021/Candidates/Beeblebrox (T-H-L)

Those of us who love to see sausage factory bosses make absolute fools of themselves on a regular basis will be voting no repeatedly.

I'm honestly unsure how to take this remark.

[Smiley]

Beeb has entered the ring: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2021/Candidates/Beeblebrox (T-H-L)

Those of us who love to see sausage factory bosses make absolute fools of themselves on a regular basis will be voting no repeatedly.

I'm honestly unsure how to take this remark.

Crow will be repeatedly voting yes, let's put it that way.

[Smiley]

Considering how many Arbs post on Wikipediocracy, they might as well forward all the cases here.

[Smiley]

Crow will be repeatedly voting yes, let's put it that way.

Well, well, well...



Looks like I got that completely wrong.

I had assumed, as a dedicated hasten-the-dayer, Crow would relish a hypocritical doxxing queerphobe like Beeblebrox being on the Committee.

Of course I forgot that Crow lives in DoubleBackwardsLand and has no idea what he's doing.

[Hemiauchenia]

Crow will be repeatedly voting yes, let's put it that way.

Well, well, well...

Looks like I got that completely wrong.

I had assumed, as a dedicated hasten-the-dayer, Crow would relish a hypocritical doxxing queerphobe like Beeblebrox being on the Committee.

Of course I forgot that Crow lives in DoubleBackwardsLand and has no idea what he's doing.

Crows howls into the void are always entertaining, though I feel a bit guilty egging on someone who is quite obviously seriously mentally disturbed.

Also, the fact that Sucks has an entire Beeblebrox subforum is hilarious

[Midsize Jake]

I had assumed, as a dedicated hasten-the-dayer, Crow would relish a hypocritical doxxing queerphobe like Beeblebrox being on the Committee.

Personally, I've never really seen him as a "hasten-the-dayer." He's more of a "hasten-the-banning-of-anyone-who-crosses-my-pather."

[Vigilant]

I had assumed, as a dedicated hasten-the-dayer, Crow would relish a hypocritical doxxing queerphobe like Beeblebrox being on the Committee.

Personally, I've never really seen him as a "hasten-the-dayer." He's more of a "hasten-the-banning-of-anyone-who-crosses-my-pather."

"Anyone who has ever had the temerity to disagree with me"-er

[Beeblebrox]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I mean, there's like 15 threads about me at any given time. Obviously Mr Crow finds me fascinating, charming even.

[Vigilant]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I mean, there's like 15 threads about me at any given time. Obviously Mr Crow finds me fascinating, charming even.

He saw me first!

[Moral Hazard]

Beeb has entered the ring: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2021/Candidates/Beeblebrox (T-H-L)

Zodiac bear piss in the morning smells like victory.

[Jim]

Also, the fact that Sucks has an entire Beeblebrox subforum is hilarious

As a bit of history for those who might not have been around or remember, the old Wikipedia Review did have editor-named subforums like that too. I'm guessing that Mr. Barbour probably just used that as a "template" for the Sucks "structure" while helping to devise its nth incarnation's architecture.

Just for clarity, though, I'm not saying it's not hilarious...

[Jim]

Kudpung and Scottywong

[Ming]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I mean, there's like 15 threads about me at any given time. Obviously Mr Crow finds me fascinating, charming even.

He saw me first!

He's lost interest in Ming.

Ming was wondering whether he'd gone off his meds, having posted an entirely readable and not totally unreasonable reaction to Andrew D's restrictions, but apparently that was a lapse.

[AngelOne]

Banedon (T-C-L) has thrown their hat into the ring, running on a platform of "Arbcom should be more like a court of law".

[Vigilant]

Banedon (T-C-L) has thrown their hat into the ring, running on a platform of "Arbcom should be more like a court of law".

If that means:

* No more Star Chamber cases from Trust&Safety
* No more secret evidence that defendants can't see
* No more secret complainants that can't be cross examined
* No more cases where the defendant is banned and cannot participate in their own defense
* 'Recused' actually means what recused means

Then it seems all right with me...

[Vigilant]

Remember who voted for what.

[Vigilant]

The Fram case should be brought up and an answer insisted upon for every candidate.




Here is a list of en.wp people who need to have an eye kept on them.

That's s long list of recidivist shitheels right there.

Hmmm...

Oppose This kind of remedy has been floating around Wikipedia's dispute resolution processes since time immemorial, and it's not effective. If this sort of action is what it takes to get the message through, I say do it. Banedon (talk) 02:29, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Also I can imagine the press coverage that could easily happen if Fram is unbanned and the media starts talking to the people he allegedly harassed. Chances are they'll report the allegations, maybe find the diffs (if the victims are willing), and then conclude that on Wikipedia, if the community kicks up enough of a fuss, they can overrule the WMF's actions. Maybe some will like this kind of portrayal, but I find it very unflattering. Banedon (talk) 02:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps someone should ask him about this !vote.
This seems a long way from his publicly stated, "ARBCOM should be more like a court!" position.

[Vigilant]

How about now, Ritchie?

I don't believe Laura Hale has had anything directly to do with this and the vitriol directed at her is quite unpleasant. If a bunch of people shouted at you, "your work sucks, don't let the door hit you on the way out", would you ever want to contribute again? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Want to take another stab at it?