Crap articles

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:25 pm

Here's one I just found: General Rudolf Maister Barracks (T-H-L)
This article is a ultra stubby and unreferenced and has remained virtually unchanged, except for a name change, since it was created in October 2009. The funny part is that it was AFD'ed within 1 minute of creation but the article creator removed the AFD tag 3 minutes after that and it's barely been touched since.

Ming · Unread post by **Ming** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:55 pm

MadManz wrote:Lubondai (T-H-L) is truly a beautiful mess of an article. No references, no real structure, only one (clunky and non-encyclopedically written) sentence. The article also originally had a bizarre claim that former CIA officer John Stockwell (T-H-L) was born in it.

It was plainly created specifically to contain that claim.

also the article is plainly categorized as "Populated places in the Democratic Republic of the Congo" which should only be done for independent cities like kinshasa

Well, that isn't ever going to be that way. In spite of the guidelines, the general attitude is "every dot is sacred."

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:19 pm

Ming wrote:
also the article is plainly categorized as "Populated places in the Democratic Republic of the Congo" which should only be done for independent cities like kinshasa
Well, that isn't ever going to be that way. In spite of the guidelines, the general attitude is "every dot is sacred."

Well if every dot wasn't sacred, think of the massive bias towards places with a Wikipedian living in them over other places. Plus Wikipedia would have very few articles left, its basically 50,000 ok articles, and 5 million pieces of crap made up of; places, ships, sportspeople, one hit wonders, irrelevant songs, vaguely known politicians, colonels, and paid promotion.

Oh and 8000 articles about Trumps tweets, gotta remember to write about Trump's tweets. I swear that a measurable percentage of contributor time is spent arguing over Trump's tweets. It's an unbelievable waste of space. Everything they are writing will 100% be deleted in 15 years time once Trump derangement syndrome has been cured, or perhaps superseded by the election of President God King Ming, the first Emperor of all China and the United Slaves of America, and the world... er wait... maybe not... no.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:43 pm

Kumioko wrote:Here's one I just found: General Rudolf Maister Barracks (T-H-L)
This article is a ultra stubby and unreferenced and has remained virtually unchanged, except for a name change, since it was created in October 2009. The funny part is that it was AFD'ed within 1 minute of creation but the article creator removed the AFD tag 3 minutes after that and it's barely been touched since.

To be pedantic, there was a request for a speedy. If you AfD you have to go through a lot of hoops and it's impossible for a non-admin to cover it up, but it's trivial to remove a tag and bury the removal in a larger edit.

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:29 pm

Multilayered Mapping of the Cap-Vert (T-H-L)

It reads more like an example of the use of GIS than anything pertaining to Senegal in particular.

Ming · Unread post by **Ming** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:55 pm

List of breakfast drinks (T-H-L)

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:04 pm

Ming wrote:List of breakfast drinks (T-H-L)

No gin?

Ming · Unread post by **Ming** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:02 am

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Ming wrote:List of breakfast drinks (T-H-L)
No gin?

Go fish.

Botto · Unread post by **Botto** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:12 pm

List of descendants of Mayflower passengers (T-H-L)

This may as well be called "List of descendants of the Mitochondrial Eve".

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:51 pm

DarthBotto wrote:List of descendants of Mayflower passengers (T-H-L)

This may as well be called "List of descendants of the Mitochondrial Eve".

It's up for AfD and it looks like it's headed for a snow close. But it's scarcely "List of descendants of the Mitochondrial Eve"; outside the USA, the proportion of the population eligible must be pretty small.

Incidentally, the first four names on the list were actual passengers, not descendents of passengers.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:51 pm

Poetlister wrote:
DarthBotto wrote:List of descendants of Mayflower passengers (T-H-L)

This may as well be called "List of descendants of the Mitochondrial Eve".
It's up for AfD and it looks like it's headed for a snow close. But it's scarcely "List of descendants of the Mitochondrial Eve"; outside the USA, the proportion of the population eligible must be pretty small.

Incidentally, the first four names on the list were actual passengers, not descendents of passengers.

delete it before it spreads!

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:54 pm

Dysklyver wrote:delete it before it spreads!

That's Mangoe. He says "a list which contains mostly otherwise utterly non-notable people is a terrible idea." But that needn't be the case; you only allow people on the list if they have an article. So that's a poor argument for deletion.

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:31 am

Boomerang Generation (T-H-L)

It looks like one of those academic assignment articles.

Ming · Unread post by **Ming** » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:06 pm

Over half of the text of Point Blunt Light (T-H-L) is devoted to this disquisition:

California Government Code section 23138, added in 1947, describes the northern boundary of San Francisco County as "Thence, Easterly, through Point Bonita and Point Calvaljo, to the most southeastern point of Angel Island, all on the line of Marin."

In 1960, to add the watchroom, the Bay was filled in between the southeastern point of Angel Island and the Point Blunt Rock - originally an Island. Consequently, Point Blunt is an exclave of San Francisco County; however, the land itself is a Federal Enclave. The area below the mean high tide of the Federal Enclave, however, is not a Federal Enclave because California assumed sovereignty over the waters when it became a State in 1850. As a port facility, the lighthouse served the Port of San Francisco, which was transferred from State to San Francisco control in 1969. In 1976, the People of the State of California adopted the Coastal act, making the area below the mean high tide a condominium of the County and the California Coastal Commission, and the Coastal Act required beach access for all California beaches, meaning there is a constitutionally-guaranteed right of way through the State Park property to the beach of the Federal Enclave.

Because the beach above the mean high tide is a Federal enclave and not part of Angel Island State Park, like Baker Beach in the Presidio of San Francisco, it is not subject to local ordinances. There is no federal or statewide law prohibiting nudity. Moreover, because it is part of a Port of call, any vessel flying a friendly flag may anchor and its inhabitants may disembark and disrobe as long as they stay below the mean high tide. If they cross above it, they must proceed directly to customs; however, there is no customs house on the point. Immunity from local law applies to individuals in transit to customs as long as they do not tarry, so they will have transit immunity while they walk through Angel Island State Park to the ferry, over the Golden Gate Bridge, and to the Federal Customs House near Fishermans' Wharf.

So if you're into nude bathing, you're all set. Ming has no idea where the info actually on the lighthouse itself came from; it doesn't seem to come from any of the usual sources, and it sure as heck didn't come from the coast guard history pages.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:28 pm

Ming wrote:Over half of the text of Point Blunt Light (T-H-L) is devoted to this disquisition:
California Government Code section 23138, added in 1947, describes the northern boundary of San Francisco County as "Thence, Easterly, through Point Bonita and Point Calvaljo, to the most southeastern point of Angel Island, all on the line of Marin."

In 1960, to add the watchroom, the Bay was filled in between the southeastern point of Angel Island and the Point Blunt Rock - originally an Island. Consequently, Point Blunt is an exclave of San Francisco County; however, the land itself is a Federal Enclave. The area below the mean high tide of the Federal Enclave, however, is not a Federal Enclave because California assumed sovereignty over the waters when it became a State in 1850. As a port facility, the lighthouse served the Port of San Francisco, which was transferred from State to San Francisco control in 1969. In 1976, the People of the State of California adopted the Coastal act, making the area below the mean high tide a condominium of the County and the California Coastal Commission, and the Coastal Act required beach access for all California beaches, meaning there is a constitutionally-guaranteed right of way through the State Park property to the beach of the Federal Enclave.

Because the beach above the mean high tide is a Federal enclave and not part of Angel Island State Park, like Baker Beach in the Presidio of San Francisco, it is not subject to local ordinances. There is no federal or statewide law prohibiting nudity. Moreover, because it is part of a Port of call, any vessel flying a friendly flag may anchor and its inhabitants may disembark and disrobe as long as they stay below the mean high tide. If they cross above it, they must proceed directly to customs; however, there is no customs house on the point. Immunity from local law applies to individuals in transit to customs as long as they do not tarry, so they will have transit immunity while they walk through Angel Island State Park to the ferry, over the Golden Gate Bridge, and to the Federal Customs House near Fishermans' Wharf.
So if you're into nude bathing, you're all set. Ming has no idea where the info actually on the lighthouse itself came from; it doesn't seem to come from any of the usual sources, and it sure as heck didn't come from the coast guard history pages.

All added by TotalFailure (T-C-L), who seems to have a habit of filling articles with dubious original research. As evinced by a note on TF's talk page from JzG (T-C-L), objecting to a ridiculous rewrite of the Conspiracy theory (T-H-L) article lede:

The term conspiracy theory is a media meme employed in Psychological warfare and disinformation campaigns to discredit skeptics of official or mainstream accounts of crimes, policies, geopolitical strategy, and harmful or otherwise notable acts and events.[3] The Central Intelligence Agency reinvented and popularized the term in 1967, first used in on page 1 of Dispatch 1034-960, declassified in 1996 following a Freedom of Information Act request by the New York Times[4]. As described by the CIA, the term is intended as a form of media manipulation and as a means to limit consensus to official accounts and thus cause the media to ignore contradictions and inconsistencies that may lead to hypotheses that contradict the prevailing understanding of events.[5] The term is a derogatory one[6][7][8]. The meme is effective because it conflates healthy and rational skepticism with psychosis, gullibility, or paranoia.[9] Over time, this use of theory in a dismissive sense has lead to questioning of scientific theories as well.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:45 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:[...]

All added by TotalFailure (T-C-L), who seems to have a habit of filling articles with dubious original research. As evinced by a note on TF's talk page from JzG (T-C-L), objecting to a ridiculous rewrite of the Conspiracy theory (T-H-L) article lede:
The term conspiracy theory is a media meme employed in Psychological warfare and disinformation campaigns to discredit skeptics of official or mainstream accounts of crimes, policies, geopolitical strategy, and harmful or otherwise notable acts and events.[3] The Central Intelligence Agency reinvented and popularized the term in 1967, first used in on page 1 of Dispatch 1034-960, declassified in 1996 following a Freedom of Information Act request by the New York Times[4]. As described by the CIA, the term is intended as a form of media manipulation and as a means to limit consensus to official accounts and thus cause the media to ignore contradictions and inconsistencies that may lead to hypotheses that contradict the prevailing understanding of events.[5] The term is a derogatory one[6][7][8]. The meme is effective because it conflates healthy and rational skepticism with psychosis, gullibility, or paranoia.[9] Over time, this use of theory in a dismissive sense has lead to questioning of scientific theories as well.

Not least because there were no memes in 1967. 'Teh memez' were invented in 1976.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:57 pm

Quick return mechanism (T-H-L)

A quick return mechanism is an apparatus that converts circular motion (rotating motion following a circular path) into reciprocating motion (repetitive back-and-forth linear motion) in presses and shaping machines, which are utilized to shape stocks of metal into flat surfaces, throughout mechanical engineering. The quick return mechanism is the foundation behind the energy of these machines.

The mechanism consists of an arm attached to a rotating disc that moves at a controlled uniform speed. Unlike the crank, the arm of the mechanism runs at a different rate than the disc. By having the disc run at a different rate than the attached arm, productivity increases because the amount of time needed for a cut is reduced. The design of this mechanism specializes in vector calculus and the physical aspects of kinematics (study of motion without the effects of forces) and dynamics (study of forces that affect motion).
...

Design
The disc influences the force of the arm, which makes up the frame of reference of the quick return mechanism. The frame continues to an attached rod, which is connected to the circular disc. Powered by a motor, the disc rotates and the arm follows in the same direction (linear and left-to-right, typically) but at a different speed. When the disc nears a full revolution, the arm reaches its furthest position and returns to its initial position at a quicker rate, hence its name. Throughout the cut, the arm has a constant velocity. Upon returning to its initial position after reaching its maximum horizontal displacement, the arm reaches its highest velocity.

Gibberish. Definitely gibberish. What I can't figure out is whether it is intentional gibberish or not...

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:06 am

Dysklyver wrote: ...
'Teh memez' were invented in 1976.

In fairness to Dawkins, I don't think he claims to have invented memes, but instead to have come up with a word for the concept. Or possibly to have come up with another word for 'concept'.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:12 am

List of video games with LGBT characters (T-H-L)

Almost entirely unsourced fancruft. Includes this gem about Grand Theft Auto III (T-H-L):

There are construction workers who look like the similarly dressed member of the Village People, who shout quotes from the songs "Y.M.C.A." and "In the Navy"

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:43 am

Interestingly enough, Kirby isn't confirmed to be LGBT, despite being pink, male, blushing on a permanent basis, and sometimes kissing other male characters in the mouth on a regular basis.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:48 am

Johnny Au wrote:Interestingly enough, Kirby isn't confirmed to be LGBT, despite being pink, male, blushing on a permanent basis, and sometimes kissing other male characters in the mouth on a regular basis.

Given that Kirby isn't intended to be human, I don't think that making assumptions about what his/her/its appearance and/or behaviour might indicate regarding sexuality is wise. Though if such 'evidence' were considered adequate (it probably is, judging by some of the crap on the page), I should probably add Bugs Bunny to the article (he has appeared in a few video games):

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:58 am

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Johnny Au wrote:Interestingly enough, Kirby isn't confirmed to be LGBT, despite being pink, male, blushing on a permanent basis, and sometimes kissing other male characters in the mouth on a regular basis.
Given that Kirby isn't intended to be human, I don't think that making assumptions about what his/her/its appearance and/or behaviour might indicate regarding sexuality is wise. Though if such 'evidence' were considered adequate (it probably is, judging by some of the crap on the page), I should probably add Bugs Bunny to the article (he has appeared in a few video games):

Yet, Birdo is included, despite not intended to be human.

If Birdo is included, then Kirby and Bugs Bunny can be included, as neither are human as well.

Standards are low enough, but not low like TV Tropes.

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:53 am

Thanos ban (Reddit) (T-H-L)

The article really needs to be snapped by Thanos.

The article only has three editors and is only linked to Thanos (T-H-L) in the mainspace.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:22 pm

Johnny Au wrote:Thanos ban (Reddit) (T-H-L)

The article really needs to be snapped by Thanos.

The article only has three editors and is only linked to Thanos (T-H-L) in the mainspace.

Trouble with Wikipedia is it will probably be back just the same, but with more sources, given that googleying it shows a surprising amount of news coverage, including this hilarity from the BBC...

cached copy.

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:46 pm

Escape room (T-H-L)

The Structure section looks copied from http://www.theplanetsescaperooms.com/20 ... structure/

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:23 pm

Johnny Au wrote:Escape room (T-H-L)

The Structure section looks copied from http://www.theplanetsescaperooms.com/20 ... structure/

Yup. The person who added it even added a 'source link' at the same time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =808746168

Unambiguous breach of copyright, self-evident to anyone who looks at the edit.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:30 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:Unambiguous breach of copyright, self-evident to anyone who looks at the edit.

Can someone report it please.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:24 pm

Poetlister wrote:
AndyTheGrump wrote:Unambiguous breach of copyright, self-evident to anyone who looks at the edit.
Can someone report it please.

Already reported in the most effective place to ensure prompt action. Here. Removed by Mangoe (T-C-L): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =852828297

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:52 am

Stan Lee's Superhumans (T-H-L)

Some of the episode summaries look like promotional taglines, especially in the second and third seasons.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:57 pm

Many articles on TV series are rubbish. At least there isn't a separate article on each episode.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:28 pm

Crescent Nebula (T-H-L): "It was discovered by Friedrich Wilhelm Herschel in 1792." By 1792, he had been living in England for many years and was universally known as William Herschel. Why use his original name?

Eric Corbett · Unread post by **Eric Corbett** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:45 pm

It seems a little harsh to declare the article as "crap" based on that one difference of interpretation.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:13 pm

Fair point that. The overall article is okay.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:44 pm

Eric Corbett wrote:It seems a little harsh to declare the article as "crap" based on that one difference of interpretation.

Yes, probably I should have put this on the worst sentences thread.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:07 pm

I am going to chuck Hamidreza Jalaeipour (T-H-L) in here.

This living person (1940s - present I think) apparently:

He received his bachelor and masters’ degrees in sociology at the University of Tehran with a privileged ranking in the year 1366 to 1371. He has a PhD in political sociology from the University of London in 1376. His thesis titled, "The Iranian revolution, mass mobilization and Its continuity".

The books written by him include:
"Judge Mohammad: Kurdistan in the Years 1320-1324" (1369)
"Kurdistan: The Reasons of its Crisis Continuity” (1371)
"After the 2nd of Khordad: about reform movements 1376-1378” (1378)
“The hidden state: about reform movements: about 80-1999” (2000)
“Sociology of social movements "(1381)
"The reform against reform” (2003)

The 1300s dates are apparently Iranian or something. Mixed liberally with western dating and without any note of what they are.

lonza leggiera · Unread post by **lonza leggiera** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:54 am

Dysklyver wrote:I am going to chuck Hamidreza Jalaeipour (T-H-L) in here.

This living person (1940s - present I think) apparently:

He received his bachelor and masters’ degrees in sociology at the University of Tehran with a privileged ranking in the year 1366 to 1371. He has a PhD in political sociology from the University of London in 1376. His thesis titled, "The Iranian revolution, mass mobilization and Its continuity".

The books written by him include:
"Judge Mohammad: Kurdistan in the Years 1320-1324" (1369)
"Kurdistan: The Reasons of its Crisis Continuity” (1371)
"After the 2nd of Khordad: about reform movements 1376-1378” (1378)
“The hidden state: about reform movements: about 80-1999” (2000)
“Sociology of social movements "(1381)
"The reform against reform” (2003)
The 1300s dates are apparently Iranian or something. Mixed liberally with western dating and without any note of what they are.

They look to me like dates from the Islamic Calendar (T-H-L).

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:52 am

lonza leggiera wrote:They look to me like dates from the Islamic Calendar (T-H-L).

No, there is a Persian calendar distinct from the Islamic one. It has years of the same length as the Gregorian calendar but you need to add 621 or 622 to its years to get the year number we would use.

Ming · Unread post by **Ming** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:14 am

So, hadn't done random article roulette in a while. It took one click: The Parasites (T-H-L):

Some readers[1]may have found the end of the novel, which suggests the death of one the siblings, to be unsatisfactory. Yes, one is left in the air and yet each of us can guess what happens to the other two. The main thing is that the death of one of the three would break that absolute bond which they were unable to break all their lives to that date – and thus end the cycle of events. The bond was so strong because the children were thrown together from earliest days by parents who were always on tour (a theatrical family), and not sent to school. Obviously the author could draw upon her own vivid memories as life as the child of one of the most successful actors of the day, Gerald Dumaurier.

Completely uncited, of course. The one note has no content.

Eric Corbett · Unread post by **Eric Corbett** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:11 pm

Poetlister wrote:
lonza leggiera wrote:They look to me like dates from the Islamic Calendar (T-H-L).
No, there is a Persian calendar distinct from the Islamic one. It has years of the same length as the Gregorian calendar but you need to add 621 or 622 to its years to get the year number we would use.

One of the essences of a crap article could be that it's not properly oriented towards its target audience. Using Persion dates would be understandable if the target audience was Iranian. But of course one of the problems with Wikipedia is that nobody knows who its target audience is, and different editors seem to have different ideas. The vast majority of the maths articles make that abundantly clear; while it's possible that a mathematics teacher might find them to be complete, accurate and well written, they're almost unintelligible to a non-mathematician no matter how well qualified such a reader might be otherwise.

So on that basis I'd nominate about 90% of Wikipedia's maths articles as crap.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Eric Corbett wrote:One of the essences of a crap article could be that it's not properly oriented towards its target audience.

I'd disgree. If everything in the article is correct, nothing is so poorly written as to be misleading and there are no huge omissions, it cannot be dismissed as crap. I do agree that many of the maths articles are incomprehensible to the uninitiated.

Could someone write a template to convert between different calendars, similar to the one mentioned recently to convert miles and chains to kilometres?

lonza leggiera · Unread post by **lonza leggiera** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:44 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Eric Corbett wrote:One of the essences of a crap article could be that it's not properly oriented towards its target audience.
I'd disgree. If everything in the article is correct, nothing is so poorly written as to be misleading and there are no huge omissions, it cannot be dismissed as crap. I do agree that many of the maths articles are incomprehensible to the uninitiated.

Could someone write a template to convert between different calendars, similar to the one mentioned recently to convert miles and chains to kilometres?

There's already a template for converting any given year in the Gregorian calendar to a year or range of years in various other calendars, including the Iranian and the Islamic.

Eric Corbett · Unread post by **Eric Corbett** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:31 pm

lonza leggiera wrote:
Poetlister wrote:
Eric Corbett wrote:One of the essences of a crap article could be that it's not properly oriented towards its target audience.
I'd disgree. If everything in the article is correct, nothing is so poorly written as to be misleading and there are no huge omissions, it cannot be dismissed as crap. I do agree that many of the maths articles are incomprehensible to the uninitiated.

Could someone write a template to convert between different calendars, similar to the one mentioned recently to convert miles and chains to kilometres?
There's already a template for converting any given year in the Gregorian calendar to a year or range of years in various other calendars, including the Iranian and the Islamic.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but it seems quite clear to me that any product that fails to meet the needs and expectations of its target audience is indeed crap.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:00 am

Eric Corbett wrote:
lonza leggiera wrote:
Poetlister wrote:
Eric Corbett wrote:One of the essences of a crap article could be that it's not properly oriented towards its target audience.
I'd disgree. If everything in the article is correct, nothing is so poorly written as to be misleading and there are no huge omissions, it cannot be dismissed as crap. I do agree that many of the maths articles are incomprehensible to the uninitiated.

Could someone write a template to convert between different calendars, similar to the one mentioned recently to convert miles and chains to kilometres?
There's already a template for converting any given year in the Gregorian calendar to a year or range of years in various other calendars, including the Iranian and the Islamic.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but it seems quite clear to me that any product that fails to meet the needs and expectations of its target audience is indeed crap.

Then we get into the debate of simple wiki, because Wikipedia is pretty bad at communicating topics to young people most the time.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:43 pm

Urban pop culture (T-H-L)

A stub article with an odd history. Created as a single-paragraph piece by Jamrahkid (T-C-L), who was blocked shortly afterwards for creating "a completely unsourced essay". For some strange reason though, Rich Farmbrough (T-C-L) chose to edit/rewrite it, and to add a non sequitur about "the parent societies' ambivalence to sexuality" in the lede, complete with citation (the only one in the article). This might possibly be relevant if the article told us which 'parent society' it was referring too, and if it said anything else about sexuality. It doesn't. Though it does make random assertions about how things have changed since 1995 (why 1995? Who knows...) and about what Dubya said about Kanye West.

Perhaps someone should point out to Rich that rewriting school essays while keeping the vacuous content doesn't turn them into encyclopaedic articles. Even if you add a random citation to "Queering Urban Popculture: Exploring Tactics in the Ho Denise Wan See (HOCC) Fandom in Hong Kong".

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:49 pm

That is an awful article. Clearly urban pop culture is a weird fabrication of pop culture and elements of urban culture, but how this article exists is beyond all reason.

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:56 pm

Dysklyver wrote:That is an awful article. Clearly urban pop culture is a weird fabrication of pop culture and elements of urban culture, but how this article exists is beyond all reason.

The how is easily explained. It is the why that is the mystery.

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:59 am

The Urban pop culture article also have nothing about urban pop culture outside the United States.

There's plenty of pop culture specific to cities not named New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc.

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:09 pm

SPI.

Smart Property Investment (SPI) is an online source of news, intelligence and information for Australian property investors and home buyers. Launched in 2011 as one of Momentum Media’s real estate titles, SPI provides insights and investment strategies for buyers and investors across Australia through unbiased commentary, features, extensive research tools, state reports and real-life investor profiles.

The rest of the article is advertising

AndyTheGrump · Unread post by **AndyTheGrump** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:42 pm

Dysklyver wrote:SPI.

Smart Property Investment (SPI) is an online source of news, intelligence and information for Australian property investors and home buyers. Launched in 2011 as one of Momentum Media’s real estate titles, SPI provides insights and investment strategies for buyers and investors across Australia through unbiased commentary, features, extensive research tools, state reports and real-life investor profiles.
The rest of the article is advertising

Created by one Biancadabu (T-C-L). In an astonishing coincidence, someone by the name of Bianca Dabu is a regular contributor to smartpropertyinvestment.com.au.
https://www.smartpropertyinvestment.com ... /346-bdabu

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:37 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Dysklyver wrote:SPI.

Smart Property Investment (SPI) is an online source of news, intelligence and information for Australian property investors and home buyers. Launched in 2011 as one of Momentum Media’s real estate titles, SPI provides insights and investment strategies for buyers and investors across Australia through unbiased commentary, features, extensive research tools, state reports and real-life investor profiles.
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Created by one Biancadabu (T-C-L). In an astonishing coincidence, someone by the name of Bianca Dabu is a regular contributor to smartpropertyinvestment.com.au.
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Gone now per G11. So yup.