CFdJ - Clusterfucque du jour

[rnu]

Anyone able to find a source for the claim that Bittersweet Goodbye samples a sped-up version of Andrew Oldham Symphony's Bitter Sweet Symphony besides the blog by David Simkins (T-H-L)? I question whether that's an RS, let alone a source for a statement on the main page.

The bbc says the sample is from the The Verve version:

But one of summer's biggest songs based around a sample is Issey Cross's Bittersweet Goodbye, which entered the charts last week at number 31.
The dance track uses the hook from 1997 hit Bittersweet Symphony by The Verve, a track which, ironically, sampled Rolling Stones hit The Last Time.

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that the Grave with the Hands (T-H-L) (pictured) commemorates a married couple, divided by society and religion, with hands clasped over a cemetery wall after death?

From the article:

There is a semi-circular wrought-iron fence around the base of each.

The "semi-circular" wrought-iron fence on the man's side:

Anyone have a rectangular facepalm emoji?

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that just seven years after being elected to a local school board, Nancy Ross (T-H-L) was a candidate for Vice President of the United States?

And of course, this being Wikipedia and an article on a chick, the article lacks the most basic information, e.g. that the ticket she ran on was on the ballot in 33 states and received 46,809 votes. For that you have to go to the dude's article.

[The Blue Newt]

Today’s Dead o’ the Day features Antonette Mendes (T-H-L), whose article epitomizes the confluence of Babu and Fyne Wrytyng.

Enjoy.

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that Marcelino Gutiérrez (T-H-L) was the only surviving brother who led the Gutiérrez Brothers' rebellion against Manuel Pardo, the elected president of Peru?

Surviving what? I guess surviving infancy? That seems to be the usual meaning when there us no further qualification. So why was it called "Gutiérrez Brothers' rebellion" if only one of them survived into adulthood and then led the rebellion?
Because the hook is nonsense. Marcelino Gutiérrez was the only brother surviving the rebellion. Which, by the way, he did not lead:

Gutiérrez, who was in command of Battalion "Ayacucho" No. 4 (formerly Column "Paucarpata" No. 2),[2] stationed at Santa Catalina barracks, had a very minor role in the coup d'état headed by his three brothers.

[rnu]

OTD

February 16: Day of the Shining Star (T-H-L) in North Korea

"Dear Leader, happy birthday from Wikipedia!"
Looking forward to April 20 (T-H-L), can't wait to see what the Main Page has planned for the Führergeburtstag celebrations.

OTD

April 15: Day of the Sun (T-H-L) in North Korea

"Dear other leader, happy birthday from Wikipedia!"
Ooooh, only five more days to Führergeburtstag!!! I can't wait to see what the Main Page crowd has planned!

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that a "pedophilic" relationship between two fictional adults led to an era of ship wars?

Did you know that a relationship between adults (whether real or fictional) can by definition not be "pedophilic" and that this "era of ship wars" is not an era, has nothing to do with ships and involves no wars?
BTW, what the source "supporting" the hook has to say about this "pedophilic relationship":

In case of the Voltron fandom, the polemic may seem absurd, given that the ship denounced as pedophilic consisted of two adult men, and perhaps that is the reason why the controversy has become so well-known and well-researched.

[PirateFood]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

[Midsize Jake]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

Well... putting aside our current problems with page-load times, I suspect it would actually be a lot harder.

[Ming]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

Doing so was a major reason for all the hate against Fram.

[rnu]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

That's a fair question. The reason is that I no longer edit Wikipedia and have no intention of ever returning. Wikipedia is the most unwelcoming platform I have ever been on. I tried helping on Wikipedia and it was made very clear that that was not welcome. I am willing to put up with uncivil editors, I am not willing to put up with abusive admins acting in obvious bad faith. So I've stopped trying to help and switched to mocking and exposing. And you know what, I feel very welcome here.

[Randy from Boise]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

That's a fair question. The reason is that I no longer edit Wikipedia and have no intention of ever returning. Wikipedia is the most unwelcoming platform I have ever been on. I tried helping on Wikipedia and it was made very clear that that was not welcome. I am willing to put up with uncivil editors, I am not willing to put up with abusive admins acting in obvious bad faith. So I've stopped trying to help and switched to mocking and exposing. And you know what, I feel very welcome here.

I'd hope you'd feel welcome both places. Mocking is fun and exposing is useful, but unless shit gets fixed nothing changes.

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[Beeblebrox]

DYK ...

... that a "pedophilic" relationship between two fictional adults led to an era of ship wars?

Did you know that a relationship between adults (whether real or fictional) can by definition not be "pedophilic" and that this "era of ship wars" is not an era, has nothing to do with ships and involves no wars?
BTW, what the source "supporting" the hook has to say about this "pedophilic relationship":

In case of the Voltron fandom, the polemic may seem absurd, given that the ship denounced as pedophilic consisted of two adult men, and perhaps that is the reason why the controversy has become so well-known and well-researched.

Both "sides" in this debate seem insufferably self-important.

[The Blue Newt]

Today’s Disgrace o’ the day asks “Do You Kare about Censorship by copyright (T-H-L)?”

What a miserable little polemic coatrack of a POV fork.

[rnu]

Today’s Disgrace o’ the day asks “Do You Kare about Censorship by copyright (T-H-L)?”

What a miserable little polemic coatrack of a POV fork.

That's actually an interesting topic. For example Bavaria de facto censored Hitler's Mein Kampf for 70 years in Germany (and some other countries) using their (legally dubious) claim to the copyright. Of course that's not the kind of censorship the article writer cares about.

[rnu]

Today’s Disgrace o’ the day asks “Do You Kare about Censorship by copyright (T-H-L)?”

What a miserable little polemic coatrack of a POV fork.

Consequentially, automated copyright detection systems built for and used by online video hosting services like Google's Content ID have been used by governments, companies and individuals to block critical reporting.[6][12][11][24][15][25][26][27][28][29]

Does the truthiness of a sentence increase with the number of references?

[Dan of La Mancha]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

I'm not going to ask who you are on-wiki, but have you ever tried what you're suggesting? That is, have you ever found an obvious error in an upcoming hook, calmly and courteously pointed it out at WP:ERRORS, or WT:DYK, or at the nomination page, and actually succeeded in convincing anyone to do anything about it?

I used to believe that DYK could be something good, and spent a lot of time flagging up problematic hooks. I'd say that maybe 2 times out of 10, the problem was fixed without any further hassle. 5 times out of 10, I was totally ignored. The other 3 times, I'd get extremely aggressive pushback – sanctioned and supported by the DYK regulars – which sometimes resulted in a hook change, sometimes didn't, but always resulted in real-world stress for me. I decided I didn't need that in my life.

That's why I ask if you've tried it yourself. It's easy to tell people what they ought to do – but there's a reason many of us prefer to discuss things over here, rather than over there.

[PirateFood]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

I'm not going to ask who you are on-wiki, but have you ever tried what you're suggesting? That is, have you ever found an obvious error in an upcoming hook, calmly and courteously pointed it out at WP:ERRORS, or WT:DYK, or at the nomination page, and actually succeeded in convincing anyone to do anything about it?

I used to believe that DYK could be something good, and spent a lot of time flagging up problematic hooks. I'd say that maybe 2 times out of 10, the problem was fixed without any further hassle. 5 times out of 10, I was totally ignored. The other 3 times, I'd get extremely aggressive pushback – sanctioned and supported by the DYK regulars – which sometimes resulted in a hook change, sometimes didn't, but always resulted in real-world stress for me. I decided I didn't need that in my life.

That's why I ask if you've tried it yourself. It's easy to tell people what they ought to do – but there's a reason many of us prefer to discuss things over here, rather than over there.

I have! I've even done it for the hooks of editors with whom I've had issues in the past, on contentious topics. It has not been difficult for me, and considering the triviality of a lot of the issues raised on this thread, I bet a lot of these changes could be made without discussion. I sometimes edit prospective hooks in minor ways without initiating discussion; it's never even been reverted.

[Zoloft]

rnu, why don't you contribute to the DYK process and step in when you see problematic hooks? It can't be harder than posting about them here.

I'm not going to ask who you are on-wiki, but have you ever tried what you're suggesting? That is, have you ever found an obvious error in an upcoming hook, calmly and courteously pointed it out at WP:ERRORS, or WT:DYK, or at the nomination page, and actually succeeded in convincing anyone to do anything about it?

I used to believe that DYK could be something good, and spent a lot of time flagging up problematic hooks. I'd say that maybe 2 times out of 10, the problem was fixed without any further hassle. 5 times out of 10, I was totally ignored. The other 3 times, I'd get extremely aggressive pushback – sanctioned and supported by the DYK regulars – which sometimes resulted in a hook change, sometimes didn't, but always resulted in real-world stress for me. I decided I didn't need that in my life.

That's why I ask if you've tried it yourself. It's easy to tell people what they ought to do – but there's a reason many of us prefer to discuss things over here, rather than over there.

I have! I've even done it for the hooks of editors with whom I've had issues in the past, on contentious topics. It has not been difficult for me, and considering the triviality of a lot of the issues raised on this thread, I bet a lot of these changes could be made without discussion. I sometimes edit prospective hooks in minor ways without initiating discussion; it's never even been reverted.

If DYK wants to copy off our pages, they can. If they want to improve their process, they can, and this topic will soon sputter to a stop. It is also much funnier to point and laugh here than to deal with Wikipedians on Wikipedia.

[Ming]

The only way to make DYK work well is to appoint some hard-nosed assholes to review everything and take the "job" away from the submitters, who after all are mainly interested in getting their own hooks on the front page. Every annoying requirement in the process represents some failure of reviewers to do a decent job of it.

[Dan of La Mancha]

I have! I've even done it for the hooks of editors with whom I've had issues in the past, on contentious topics. It has not been difficult for me, and considering the triviality of a lot of the issues raised on this thread, I bet a lot of these changes could be made without discussion. I sometimes edit prospective hooks in minor ways without initiating discussion; it's never even been reverted.

In that case, I'd like to ask whether you're a DYK regular, as in someone who nominates and reviews hooks, or whether you just audit the hooks as they come through. It's my impression that DYK is much more hostile towards perceived outsiders than to those who belong to the club.

If you are a DYK outsider, I'd love to know how you manage to get through to them.

[Dan of La Mancha]

On your other point, it's true that some of the errors pointed out here are trivial, but they're symptomatic of DYK's big problem, which is that its participants care more about pushing hooks through the system than they do about accuracy, neutrality, and avoiding harm to living people. Usually, the only consequence of this is that the Main Page continues to be a laughing stock; but every once in a while, a hook comes along which has the potential to do serious real-world damage. When that happens – in the rare event that it's discussed on-wiki at all – the Main Pagers try to pass it off as a one-time lapse of judgement, an unfortunate and unforeseeable event. Pointing out all the other bad hooks here gives the lie to that excuse, and shows DYK to be rotten to the core.

That's why I do it, anyway.

[rnu]

[...]
Pointing out all the other bad hooks here gives the lie to that excuse, and shows DYK to be rotten to the core.

That's why I do it, anyway.

Pointing out some of the other bad hooks. I'm sure there are many more than get listed here.

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that food critic Grace Dent reviewed a Liverpool restaurant that served her rice pudding flavoured with a substance that is banned in the United States for its lethality?

They tried to poison a food critic???

What had she said about them???
The "substance" in question are tonka beans (T-H-L).
What does the source have to say about this deadly poison?

The rice was flavoured with tonka bean, an ugly-looking, raisin-like lump that enhances all food with a vanilla-y, liquoricey, caramelly and clove-esque aroma. Sure, it has been banned in the US since 1954 because large quantities of it can kill you and, yes, two 5g teaspoons of the stuff can reportedly see off a sheep, but, look, we’re all going to die some time.

You may be shocked to learn that using small doses is perfectly legal in several countries. Which makes sense given that

the regulations are criticized as unreasonable due to the unlikelihood of consuming enough coumarin to cause ill effects and due to the presence of coumarin in unregulated foods.[11] Coumarin is also present in lavender, cinnamon, licorice, strawberries and cherries.[13]

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that Dahiru Musdapher (T-H-L), the 12th chief justice of Nigeria, was once a BBC World Service contributor for West Africa and Hausa?

For "West Africa and Hausa"? So for a region and a language?
I can't access the source. So I am gonna venture a wild guess, and assume that he was a contributor to BBC World Service (T-H-L) on West African topics and a contributor on BBC Hausa (T-H-L).
Well at least the person who "improved" the article to GA status double checked whether the guy was Attorney General of Chief Justice during the DYK nomination.

[rnu]

After the Main Page crowd wished Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Sung a happy birthday and commemorated the brave men of the Waffen SS I was really looking forward to Führergeburtstag. And now? Nothing. Not a single mention of dear old Dolferl on his 135th birthday on the Main Page.
If anyone from the Main Page crowd is reading this: I am not angry, just disappointed.

[Yngvadottir]

After the Main Page crowd wished Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Sung a happy birthday and commemorated the brave men of the Waffen SS I was really looking forward to Führergeburtstag. And now? Nothing. Not a single mention of dear old Dolferl on his 135th birthday on the Main Page.
If anyone from the Main Page crowd is reading this: I am not angry, just disappointed.

420 (cannabis culture) (T-H-L) is useful for avoiding the 20 April problem

[rnu]

After the Main Page crowd wished Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Sung a happy birthday and commemorated the brave men of the Waffen SS I was really looking forward to Führergeburtstag. And now? Nothing. Not a single mention of dear old Dolferl on his 135th birthday on the Main Page.
If anyone from the Main Page crowd is reading this: I am not angry, just disappointed.

420 (cannabis culture) (T-H-L) is useful for avoiding the 20 April problem

Well the German government did just legalize cannabis.

[Yngvadottir]

Well the German government did just legalize cannabis.

Since it was an April 1 article and I don't entirely trust CNN, verified at AP. Good to know :-)

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that the 1993 Pacific hurricane season generated more than double the average number of major hurricanes, which have sustained winds of at least 111 mph (179 km/h)?

This is not an article. This is a medical symptom.

In case any medical professionals are on this case, there's a new symptom:

DYK ...

... that the 1994 Pacific hurricane season was the first to produce three hurricanes that attained Category 5 intensity, the highest rating on the Saffir–Simpson scale?

[Dan of La Mancha]

DYK ...

... that the 1993 Pacific hurricane season generated more than double the average number of major hurricanes, which have sustained winds of at least 111 mph (179 km/h)?

This is not an article. This is a medical symptom.

Actually, it's now a Featured medical symptom, with the 1994 article soon to follow.

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that the 1993 Pacific hurricane season generated more than double the average number of major hurricanes, which have sustained winds of at least 111 mph (179 km/h)?

This is not an article. This is a medical symptom.

Actually, it's now a Featured medical symptom, with the 1994 article soon to follow.

Does that mean that it will be presented at a psychiatry conference?

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that Shohei Ohtani married "a normal Japanese woman" (pictured) who used to play professional basketball?

You may be tempted to think the DYK article is about Shohei Ohtani (T-H-L). Nope, it is about Mamiko Tanaka (T-H-L) aka "a normal Japanese woman". No need to mention her name in the hook. It's not like anyone cares about her (her name is used in the image caption). She is a former professional basketball player. Her article only exists because of her marriage. It started out as a redirect to the "personal life" section of her husband's article the day he announced her name. It took another two weeks for someone to start a draft. But I digress, I mean who cares about a chick who played basketball in Japan when there's a dude playing baseball in the US you can talk about instead? The DYK crowd certainly doesn't.

[Dan of La Mancha]

... that the celebrity doctor Nandipha Magudumana (T-H-L) was imprisoned and investigated for twelve crimes, including murder connected to a fugitive's prison escape?

Given the existence of this lengthy discussion about whether DYK should be allowed to say anything negative about Andrew Tate (T-H-L), I was surprised disappointed to see an extremely negative hook about a South African woman shoved onto the Main Page without a second thought.

And I do mean without a second thought, because the hook fact isn't present in the article. I almost couldn't believe this, so I read it over several times, and yeah, it's just not there. There's absolutely nothing about twelve crimes – the lead (unsourced) says "several," and the infobox (unsourced) lists five – and murder is only mentioned in the lead, unsourced. The information hasn't been recently removed or anything. It was never there. This hook was supposedly checked over by three editors (Storye book (T-C-L), PrimalMustelid (T-C-L) and Amakuru (T-C-L)) and apparently not one of them spotted this.

The article itself has BLPCRIME problems; I can't find any evidence that Magudumana has been convicted of the crimes that she's accused of in the infobox.

[rnu]

... that the celebrity doctor Nandipha Magudumana (T-H-L) was imprisoned and investigated for twelve crimes, including murder connected to a fugitive's prison escape?

Given the existence of this lengthy discussion about whether DYK should be allowed to say anything negative about Andrew Tate (T-H-L), I was surprised disappointed to see an extremely negative hook about a South African woman shoved onto the Main Page without a second thought.

And I do mean without a second thought, because the hook fact isn't present in the article. I almost couldn't believe this, so I read it over several times, and yeah, it's just not there. There's absolutely nothing about twelve crimes – the lead (unsourced) says "several," and the infobox (unsourced) lists five – and murder is only mentioned in the lead, unsourced. The information hasn't been recently removed or anything. It was never there. This hook was supposedly checked over by three editors (Storye book (T-C-L), PrimalMustelid (T-C-L) and Amakuru (T-C-L)) and apparently not one of them spotted this.

The article itself has BLPCRIME problems; I can't find any evidence that Magudumana has been convicted of the crimes that she's accused of in the infobox.

Pulled

I'm really sorry about this, I dropped the ball on this one. I promoted the set a few days ago, and had checked the first hooks already but I didn't get as far down as this one and then due to having a busy weekend the matter it completely slipped my mind.

Ladies and gentlemen: Amakuru (T-C-L)

[Tbackus]

... that the celebrity doctor Nandipha Magudumana (T-H-L) was imprisoned and investigated for twelve crimes, including murder connected to a fugitive's prison escape?

Given the existence of this lengthy discussion about whether DYK should be allowed to say anything negative about Andrew Tate (T-H-L), I was surprised disappointed to see an extremely negative hook about a South African woman shoved onto the Main Page without a second thought.

And I do mean without a second thought, because the hook fact isn't present in the article. I almost couldn't believe this, so I read it over several times, and yeah, it's just not there. There's absolutely nothing about twelve crimes – the lead (unsourced) says "several," and the infobox (unsourced) lists five – and murder is only mentioned in the lead, unsourced. The information hasn't been recently removed or anything. It was never there. This hook was supposedly checked over by three editors (Storye book (T-C-L), PrimalMustelid (T-C-L) and Amakuru (T-C-L)) and apparently not one of them spotted this.

The article itself has BLPCRIME problems; I can't find any evidence that Magudumana has been convicted of the crimes that she's accused of in the infobox.

Pulled

I'm really sorry about this, I dropped the ball on this one. I promoted the set a few days ago, and had checked the first hooks already but I didn't get as far down as this one and then due to having a busy weekend the matter it completely slipped my mind.

Ladies and gentlemen: Amakuru (T-C-L)

It is unfortunate that they are always fumbling around. So many moving parts and so many unqualified participants. They also have so many rules that they enforce to push favored narratives. I am glad that Amakuru admitted the mistake and also admitted that they did not even do a cursory check of that article or hook before promoting it to be on the main page.

[C&B]

It is a shame that dimething as obvious as clearing individual hooks rather than a whole slate is only likely to introduce now, when it has been letting crud through for years.

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763–1789 (T-H-L) has been the first, second, and third volume of the Oxford History of the United States?

It was never the first volume. It was merely the first volume to be published.*
The first edition is called "Volume II". At the time there was one volume planned for the history up to 1763.
Later the plan was changed and now two volumes are planned for the history up to 1763. So the second edition is now called "v. 3" in the small print.

* Of course there is a very liberal meaning in which this makes it "the first volume", but in that meaning it was never the second or third volume. So the hook is wrong on any reading.

[rnu]

OTD

2015 – Nepal was struck by a magnitude-7.8 earthquake, killing more than 8,000 people, including 22 from avalanches on Mount Everest.

Translation: "More than 8,000 people died, 22 of which we care about."
BTW the lead of 2015 Mount Everest avalanches (T-H-L) says "at least twenty-two", the infobox says "24", the "Rescue operations" section says "at least 24", the "Deaths" section says that the Nepal Mountaineering Association "lists 19 deaths" while "National Geographic reported 24 deaths", the "List of fatalities" includes 16 persons. Meanwhile April 2015 Nepal earthquake (T-H-L) says 22 in the lead and "at least 19" in the text.

[Háčky]

... that N661US (T-H-L) (pictured) was the prototype Boeing 747-400 and was involved in the Northwest Airlines Flight 85 incident, in which the aircraft suddenly banked hard to the left in flight?

Did you know that an aircraft was the only aircraft “involved” in its own mechanical problem and that this is the sort of contorted writing that DYK reviewers find interesting?

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that zombie-like obedience has been attributed to Jesuits, the military, and followers of totalitarian regimes?

I thought long and hard about what to write about this article. The nicest thing I came up with:

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that Saint Tarbula of Persia was martyred by being cut in half by a saw after being accused of witchcraft?

Wikipedia once again endorsing claims of sainthood and martyrdom on its Main Page.
And once again the article is a wonderful illustration of how not to write about religious topics. The article states the narrative of Tarbula as fact in wikivoice. That's bad enough. Let's look at the sources.

Let's start with Sozomen (T-H-L)'s Ecclesiastical History:
Despite Sozomon being cited for saying that Tarbula was "beautiful and very stately in form" he was born about 50 years after her death. Sozomon is an important source for the history of early Christianity. He is also as biased as you can be. And not only does he have a Christian bias. He has also a Roman/Byzantine bias. And in his time Persia was the enemy. So clearly someone to take at his word when he writes about a Christian in Persia. According to him Tarbula is one of more than 16,000 Christians killed under Shapur II (T-H-L).

Next up: Dunbar, Agnes B.C. (1901). A Dictionary of Saintly Women. Vol. 2. London: George Bell & Sons
I found nothing about the educational background of Dunbar. This dictionary seems to be her only (major?) work. It is expressly not critical:

I have generally abstained from criticising or expressing a personal opinion. Where I have said that a story is untrue or an author untrustworthy, the statement is made on the authority of some accredited Catholic writer.

Her account of Tarbula is based on Sozomen and a church history by John Mason Neale (T-H-L).

Then there is Virgin Martyr Pherbutha (Phermoutha) of Persia, with her sister, and servant by the Orthodox Church in America. No author named, no sources. Completely uncritical.

Finally a work by a scholar: Jensen, Anne (1996). God's Self-Confident Daughters: Early Christianity and the Liberation of Women. Translated by Dean Jr., O.C. (1st ed.). Louisville, Kentucky: Westminster John Knox Press.
Anne Jensen (Theologin) (T-H-L) was a German-Austrian professor of theology. Alas her account of Tarbula is based on Sozomen.

The last source is Arjana, Sophia Rose (2015). Muslims in the Western Imagination. New York: Oxford University press
I couldn't access it, but from what little I could see at google preview it seems to deal with Tarbula only in the context of Islamophobic paintings of her death.

That leaves us with zero quality sources for an article about an early Christian "saint" that is so naive and uncritical that most theologians would probably be embarrassed.

[Yngvadottir]

DYK ...

... that Saint Tarbula of Persia was martyred by being cut in half by a saw after being accused of witchcraft?

Wikipedia once again endorsing claims of sainthood and martyrdom on its Main Page.
And once again the article is a wonderful illustration of how not to write about religious topics. The article states the narrative of Tarbula as fact in wikivoice. That's bad enough. Let's look at the sources.

The article does appear to be written credulously and is now tagged for unreliable sources. It should point out that like many early saints, she may not have existed. I don't think the blurb should state the manner of her death as certain, maybe something like "... that Saint Tarbula of Persia, who was accused of witchcraft, is said to have been martyred by being sawed in half?" But I have to disagree that calling a Christian saint or martyr a saint or martyr, even in a main page blurb, is inappropriate. Apart from the special LDS usage of "saint", these are terms specific to (some branches of) Christianity, and there's no need to point out that adherents of other religions don't venerate these people, any more than there is to qualify ranks within Christian churches like "bishop" or video-game terms like "NPC" or business terms like "CEO" with something like "termed" or "known as".

[Elinruby]

DYK ...

... that Shohei Ohtani married "a normal Japanese woman" (pictured) who used to play professional basketball?

You may be tempted to think the DYK article is about Shohei Ohtani (T-H-L). Nope, it is about Mamiko Tanaka (T-H-L) aka "a normal Japanese woman". No need to mention her name in the hook. It's not like anyone cares about her (her name is used in the image caption). She is a former professional basketball player. Her article only exists because of her marriage. It started out as a redirect to the "personal life" section of her husband's article the day he announced her name. It took another two weeks for someone to start a draft. But I digress, I mean who cares about a chick who played basketball in Japan when there's a dude playing baseball in the US you can talk about instead? The DYK crowd certainly doesn't.

What is an abnormal Japanese woman?

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that ice hockey player Cameron Butler (T-H-L) "had the good fortune not to get pulled over as he raced" to reach his team's game in time for his NHL debut?

The article was created the day after his NHL debut. Which lasted all of 54 seconds as an emergency replacement because too many of the team's players were injured.

[Midsize Jake]

What is an abnormal Japanese woman?

[Zoloft]

What is an abnormal Japanese woman?

Everyone is allowed their passion in life.

I mean it's not Corey Lewandowski, after all.

[Háčky]

Did you know…

... that the 2004 documentary The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing (T-H-L) contains interviews from dozens of film editors, including women under-represented in the field?

No doubt this is meant to say that women were an under-represented class in the field of film editing, but due to a shortage of grammar, what it actually says is that the women whose interviews appear in this documentary were somehow personally under-represented in the field; perhaps they wanted to hire an agent.

[rnu]

Did you know…

... that the 2004 documentary The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing (T-H-L) contains interviews from dozens of film editors, including women under-represented in the field?

No doubt this is meant to say that women were an under-represented class in the field of film editing, but due to a shortage of grammar, what it actually says is that the women whose interviews appear in this documentary were somehow personally under-represented in the field; perhaps they wanted to hire an agent.

From the source that allegedly supports the hook:

Before that, the editor was called a “cutter,” and in silent-movie days, that “cutter” was more often than not a woman. That’s because editing seemed like crocheting or sewing, a lowly and unmanly sit-down craft. But with the advent of talking pictures, males marched in and claimed the profession, since sound editing involved knowledge of electricity and engineering. Guy stuff.
A few women survived in the editing room in the Hollywood 1930s. Only one had lots of power: Margaret Booth, a stormy and bullying presence at MGM.

So a statement about the 1930s is used to support a hook in the present tense.

[rnu]

DYK ...

... that despite getting an offer from his dream basketball school, Notre Dame, Chris Hill instead chose Michigan State?

Another basketball player who owes his article to TonyTheTiger (T-C-L)'s bauble addiction.
TTT wrote the article in 2011 for DYK and has now nominated it to GA for another run on DYK (and of course the GA bauble). TTT has made no edits to the article since 2011. Nor has anyone else apart from some bot edits.

TTT on his way to buy some milk: