Dicklyon

[The Blue Newt]

BLOCKED for 48 hrs by Vanamonde93 (T-C-L) for personal attacks on GoodDay (T-C-L)

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Dicklyon is right but he's still a dick

How on earth is diCLy “right?”. Wikipedia is supposed to be a trailing tertiary reference, something that digests accepted knowledge from actual experts, and regurgitates it in new just-short-of-plagiaristic form. Why should style be any exception to that?

dicko’s own words- “clamoring for attention when you have nothing to contribute, admittedly not understanding English grammar, showing no respect for style guidelines, and just injecting a lot of noise and pushback into places where others are trying to get these jobs done” - are almost completely self-referential.

[Starship Enterprise]

just injecting a lot of noise and pushback into places where others are trying to get these jobs done

This part is right. GoodDay is a talk page warrior. Dicklyon got the right answer by chance

Dicklyon is that way too

[Alalch Emis]

Oh, my. After not getting satisfaction at the normal requested moves venue, he has escalated the matter of whether or not the NFL Draft (T-H-L) is the proper name of a very important, official event on the National Football League's calendar, or just another generic professional sports league's draft which is nothing special....

...he's escalated it to the highest, meta-discussion level for important, meta-procedural matters, so I learned of this request for comment via my monitoring of Wikipedia:Centralized discussion (T-H-L) on my user page.

the proposal succeeded and the articles were mass-moved

[No Ledge]

the proposal succeeded and the articles were mass-moved

Thanks for letting me know. Appreciated the news, as I'd tuned out of that mess of a discussion.

Just in time for this Sunday's United States' national American football league's championship game.

[The Blue Newt]

the proposal succeeded and the articles were mass-moved

Thanks for letting me know. Appreciated the news, as I'd tuned out of that mess of a discussion.

Just in time for this Sunday's United States' national American football league's championship game.

“Just in time for this sunday's united states' national american football league's championship game.”

FixeddiCked tHat foR yOu.

[No Ledge]

Dicklyon was blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for disruptive page moves, as he did at USFL Draft,

by the same administrator who just recently closed that lodestar discussion about Capitalization of NFL draft article titles.



His third block already in 2024.

More evidence of how ineffective the block button is in guiding repeat-offender editors to moderate their behavior.

[tarantino]

the proposal succeeded and the articles were mass-moved

Thanks for letting me know. Appreciated the news, as I'd tuned out of that mess of a discussion.

Just in time for this Sunday's United States' national American football league's championship game.

“Just in time for this sunday's united states' national american football league's championship game.”

FixeddiCked tHat foR yOu.

I heard that Taylor Swift's boyfriend was playing at the Usher concert tomorrow.

[rnu]

Dicklyon was blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for disruptive page moves, as he did at USFL Draft,

by the same administrator who just recently closed that lodestar discussion about Capitalization of NFL draft article titles.



His third block already in 2024.

More evidence of how ineffective the block button is in guiding repeat-offender editors to moderate their behavior.

Oh for crying out loud. If people really want to keep this disruptive jackass around, ban him from making any capitalization related edits (including starting or taking part in discussions about capitalization).

[Randy from Boise]

Wow, I count 14 blocks on that log. Not quite Corbettian, but tending that direction.

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[Mojito]

Corbettian

Haha, that's a great adjective.

[Vigilant]

Wow, I count 14 blocks on that log. Not quite Corbettian, but tending that direction.

t

Strangely enough, he's off on Quora giving bad wikipedia advice to other dingdongs.

[The Blue Newt]

Wow, I count 14 blocks on that log. Not quite Corbettian, but tending that direction.

t

Strangely enough, he's off on Quora giving bad wikipedia advice to other dingdongs.

That has gotta be hilarious.

Link?

[Vigilant]

Wow, I count 14 blocks on that log. Not quite Corbettian, but tending that direction.

t

Strangely enough, he's off on Quora giving bad wikipedia advice to other dingdongs.

That has gotta be hilarious.

Link?

I think it's more sad than anything else

Maybe his curmudgeon act is popular there, but I doubt it.

[The Blue Newt]

Wow, I count 14 blocks on that log. Not quite Corbettian, but tending that direction.

t

Strangely enough, he's off on Quora giving bad wikipedia advice to other dingdongs.

That has gotta be hilarious.

Link?

I think it's more sad than anything else

Maybe his curmudgeon act is popular there, but I doubt it.

Damn. I thought dIcKly was the one quorifying.

You gotta admit, that would be funnier.

[Randy from Boise]

Wow, I count 14 blocks on that log. Not quite Corbettian, but tending that direction.

t

Strangely enough, he's off on Quora giving bad wikipedia advice to other dingdongs.

That has gotta be hilarious.

Link?

I think it's more sad than anything else

Maybe his curmudgeon act is popular there, but I doubt it.

That's actually some pretty entertaining stuff.

Here's one for the churchladies...

t

[rnu]

Dicklyon has requested to be unlocked:

Request reason:
While the move I was blocked for was done by me in good faith, feeling that reasons to object to it had been resolved, I admit it was a mistake, and disruptive, that I did so. I understand more clearly why an RM discussion is the right way to clear this up, and that the need for an RM discussion is specifically called out in the guideline that Bagumba quoted above ("if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves"). The length of this block seems to be punitive, especially since I demonstrated that I had the RM ready to go already when I was blocked. Based on further discussion here, I am confident that the multiple proposed moves of USFL Draft pages will be widely supported, possibly unopposed, so it would be good to get back to normal process sooner rather than later. Dicklyon (talk) 10:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

tldr: I know what I did wrong, so unblock me. Also, I didn't do anything wrong.

[rnu]

PhilKnight (T-C-L) took care of things:

@The Wordsmith: - what are your thoughts about an early unblock? PhilKnight (talk) 19:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Given the history, the discussion here, and the extensive block log for edit warring from 2007-2024, I'm not convinced the move warring block is no longer necessary so I won't lift it myself. If an uninvolved admin reviews the context and is inclined to accept the unblock request, I have no objections. The WordsmithTalk to me 20:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I have an average one block per 18 months in my 18 years on WP, which I agree is not good. None of those were for move warring (mostly 3RR and other edit warring). It's hard to imagine how blocking me for a few more days is protecting the project. Dicklyon (talk) 01:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@PhilKnight: Since The Wordsmith would not object, would you be so kind as to make an independent assessment of the usefulness of keeping me blocked for several more days? Dicklyon (talk) 06:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Dicklyon is either now aware of the virtual 0RR for moves or he isn't. Take him at his word. In the worst case, he's easily blocked again. 2–3 more days of being blocked now isn't going to make a difference. —Bagumba (talk) 07:35, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Done. PhilKnight (talk) 09:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Much appreciated. I'll launch that RM now. Dicklyon (talk) 10:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I have unblocked. PhilKnight (talk) 09:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

PhilKnight didn't see the necessity of even pretending that there is a reason for the unblock.

[Wikiguy.DC]

You won't believe this, but Dick has been blocked again, this time for calling Goodday "obstructionist." This is Dick's fourth block of 2024 and February isn't even over yet.

[The Blue Newt]

You won't believe this, but Dick has been blocked again, this time for calling Goodday "obstructionist." This is Dick's fourth block of 2024 and February isn't even over yet.

…and the Usual Gang of Idiots is showing their support on his talk page.

Troutman, too. Woulda credited him with more sense.

[Ryuichi]

You won't believe this, but Dick has been blocked again, this time for calling Goodday "obstructionist." This is Dick's fourth block of 2024 and February isn't even over yet.

…and the Usual Gang of Idiots is showing their support on his talk page.

Troutman, too. Woulda credited him with more sense.

It's a veritable sea of nominative determinism.

[Konveyor Belt]

Now at AN, where opinion seems to be split.

[utbc]

You won't believe this, but Dick has been blocked again, this time for calling Goodday "obstructionist." This is Dick's fourth block of 2024 and February isn't even over yet.

…and the Usual Gang of Idiots is showing their support on his talk page.

Troutman, too. Woulda credited him with more sense.

Troutman was recently at ANI for saying way worse. He generally defends a right to be mean if it is deserved, and be meaner in general than most tolerate.

[The Blue Newt]

You won't believe this, but Dick has been blocked again, this time for calling Goodday "obstructionist." This is Dick's fourth block of 2024 and February isn't even over yet.

…and the Usual Gang of Idiots is showing their support on his talk page.

Troutman, too. Woulda credited him with more sense.

Troutman was recently at ANI for saying way worse. He generally defends a right to be mean if it is deserved, and be meaner in general than most tolerate.

Oh, yeah, CT can be rude as hell, but in context, something like “obstructionist” is poisoning the well. DiCklY specializes in that sort of thing.

[Elinruby]

(posting here to keep it from coming out of my mouth at AN)
As impatient as I am with the capitalization warriors, I have to say that "obstructionist" is a word we really need to be able to use at a notice board, because there are a lot of obstructionists at Wikipedia.

Given what I gather of the context though (and please don't explain it to me) the block as a block was probably justified.

[The Blue Newt]

(posting here to keep it from coming out of my mouth at AN)
As impatient as I am with the capitalization warriors, I have to say that "obstructionist" is a word we really need to be able to use at a notice board, because there are a lot of obstructionists at Wikipedia.

Given what I gather of the context though (and please don't explain it to me) the block as a block was probably justified.

Sure. There are all kinds of words we really need to be able to use, but it is important that we only use them when they actually apply, rather than as generic signal reaction cues.

[Elinruby]

(posting here to keep it from coming out of my mouth at AN)
As impatient as I am with the capitalization warriors, I have to say that "obstructionist" is a word we really need to be able to use at a notice board, because there are a lot of obstructionists at Wikipedia.

Given what I gather of the context though (and please don't explain it to me) the block as a block was probably justified.

Sure. There are all kinds of words we really need to be able to use, but it is important that we only use them when they actually apply, rather than as generic signal reaction cues.

Ok I guess that's fair. If you have been following all of the mucho litigation about this and you are saying it wasn't warranted, then it all makes more sense.

But speaking as an ordinary editor with an actual problem and some email evidence, it's hard to not see this as a huge black hole sucking up all of the enforcement oxygen on the site. I'd rather not have to have Holocaust in Poland VIII over one guy, but what do I know.

[The Blue Newt]

But speaking as an ordinary editor with an actual problem and some email evidence, it's hard to not see this as a huge black hole sucking up all of the enforcement oxygen on the site. I'd rather not have to have Holocaust in Poland VIII over one guy, but what do I know.

Can you enlarge on this?

[Elinruby]

But speaking as an ordinary editor with an actual problem and some email evidence, it's hard to not see this as a huge black hole sucking up all of the enforcement oxygen on the site. I'd rather not have to have Holocaust in Poland VIII over one guy, but what do I know.

Can you enlarge on this?

I am sort of burned out on the topic. But see discussion at AN: "1RR appeal by Marcelus". My contribution is admittedly TL;DR but that's what happens when a mentor dismisses a complaint about his mentee as "diff-less". Chapter and verse as a follow-up.

Short version=obstructionist

[Ryuichi]

(posting here to keep it from coming out of my mouth at AN)
As impatient as I am with the capitalization warriors, I have to say that "obstructionist" is a word we really need to be able to use at a notice board, because there are a lot of obstructionists at Wikipedia.

[Elinruby]

(posting here to keep it from coming out of my mouth at AN)
As impatient as I am with the capitalization warriors, I have to say that "obstructionist" is a word we really need to be able to use at a notice board, because there are a lot of obstructionists at Wikipedia.

Oh he didn't say it at a notice board? The capitalization thing seems to be on all of them. I just assumed. That explains everything, thanks

[Ryuichi]

Oh he didn't say it at a notice board? The capitalization thing seems to be on all of them. I just assumed. That explains everything, thanks

It was apparently at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests (T-H-L), which is a noticeboard in one sense; but not in the sense of "this is a place to discuss editor behaviour".

[Elinruby]

Oh he didn't say it at a notice board? The capitalization thing seems to be on all of them. I just assumed. That explains everything, thanks

It was apparently at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests (T-H-L), which is a noticeboard in one sense; but not in the sense of "this is a place to discuss editor behaviour".

Nod, I see

[Kraken]

If GoodDay was banned from talk pages and project space, would there really be any loss to Wikipedia? I think it's inarguable there would be a benefit.

[Ryuichi]

If GoodDay was banned from talk pages and project space, would there really be any loss to Wikipedia? I think it's inarguable there would be a benefit.

Trying to consider the proportion of Wikipedia editors for which this would be true. And then, the proportion of Wikipedia editors who would consider this true for my own account.

End up with fairly high percentages for both questions.

And then...

For every GoodDay, there is a corresponding Skyring (T-C-L).