Wikimania 2019

Unread post by **Smiley** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:09 pm

This year's Great Annual Gathering of Super Autists Wikimania is underway.

Totally gutted I can't be there...

Unread post by **Smiley** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:12 pm

Sweden's border guards have been warned to keep an eye out for this chap:

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:22 pm

Bawahaha! I got blocked from a couple of those twitter pages BTW. Not that I care, as you can see by the number 2, there are plenty of numbers left.

Of course I'll be no where near there. I have a job and work to do, I don't get paid to spend donation dollars on travel and free vacations to perpetuate liberal agendas and bias.

Unread post by **Smiley** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:33 pm

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:40 pm

It's an excuse for a free vacation is what it is. Sure there might be a few people doing actual stuff, but a lot of them will just be loitering around stroking their neck beards.

Unread post by **Smiley** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:12 pm

Hold on to your hats, people...

>>> Wikimania Hackathon 2019 Lua Workshop Livestream now running! >>>

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:39 pm

I would like to learn LUA so maybe I'll check this out later if they record it and save it.

eagle · Unread post by **eagle** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:37 pm

Smiley wrote:Sweden's border guards T&S Safe Space Security Staff have been warned to keep an eye out for this chap:

Each T&S agent has been equipped with a SuperProtect-brand stun gun and photos of Greg and Kumioko. I can't wait until sundown for the Priacaso video to be projected on the side of the building. Free beer tonight at the WO safehouse.

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:38 pm

Rofl, you got some imagination.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:57 pm

I wonder if any banned people whose identity is not known to the WMF have ever attended a Wikimania or similar. Undoubtedly it is not unknown at WMUK events.

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:44 pm

Poetlister wrote:I wonder if any banned people whose identity is not known to the WMF have ever attended a Wikimania or similar. Undoubtedly it is not unknown at WMUK events.

I've attended a couple events since being banned (one in Seattle and one in Sandy Eggo) but didn't tell them my identity. I went as a Wiki editor from Wikia. They didn't know who I was, but also didn't really ask either. I wouldn't say they were rude or unwelcoming, but they weren't really that interested in working with a Wikia editor either and were very focused on WMF stuff.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:05 pm

Kumioko wrote:I wouldn't say they were rude or unwelcoming, but they weren't really that interested in working with a Wikia editor either and were very focused on WMF stuff.

That's not overly surprising. After all, they have to maintain the myth that Wikia is completely independent of Wikipedia.

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:34 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Kumioko wrote:I wouldn't say they were rude or unwelcoming, but they weren't really that interested in working with a Wikia editor either and were very focused on WMF stuff.
That's not overly surprising. After all, they have to maintain the myth that Wikia is completely independent of Wikipedia.

I did mention to one user who I was after we left. They didn't seem to care that much I was banned, they were more surprised I was a guy, apparently a lot of people thought "Kumioko" was a female...lol

Jans Hammer · Unread post by **Jans Hammer** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:37 am

not sure I understand this

Unread post by **Smiley** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:47 pm

Unread post by **Smiley** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:03 pm

Wikimania looks like a giant creche.

Jans Hammer · Unread post by **Jans Hammer** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:39 pm

Probably not the best composed picture ever taken

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:59 pm

I bet you won't see many images of Hjmitchell or Kudpung coming out of these events.

Unread post by **Smiley** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:03 pm

Jans Hammer wrote:Probably not the best composed picture ever taken

Pudeo · Unread post by **Pudeo** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:37 pm

They live-stream some of the talks to the Wikimedia Foundation Youtube channel.

Unread post by **Smiley** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:21 pm

Stephen Harrison. "Wikimania to the Rescue" Slate, 16 Aug 2019

At its annual convention, the international Wikimedia community has adopted ambitious human rights goals.

At the Wikimania conference this weekend in Stockholm, the Wikimedia Foundation signed a first-of-its-kind partnership with the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. According to an announcement by foundation Executive Director Katherine Maher, the partnership involves increasing the quality and quantity of human rights content on the encyclopedia as well as mobilizing the global Wikimedia community on human rights. While many people might not associate Wikipedia with the United Nations, the partnership is in keeping with the overall theme of the conference—how the Wikimedia movement can support the U.N.’s 17 sustainable development goals.

I was a bit skeptical when I first heard that Wikimania 2019 was adopting the U.N.’s sustainable development goals as the theme. After all, these 17 goals require the mobilization of billions of people. The list begins with two whammies: no poverty and zero hunger.

Critics might say that Wikipedia should get its own house in order before making such idealistic attempts to save the world. Earlier this year, the New York Times reported on the Wikipedia community’s ongoing challenges with respect to the harassment and incivility of some members. Indeed, several sessions at this year’s Wikimania are focused on improving community health and reducing toxicity.

There’s an old saying about the greater part of happiness being to have found a sense of purpose, and these “maniacs” seem to have hit the mark.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:15 pm

Jans Hammer wrote:
not sure I understand this

I think this sums up their position nicely.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:16 pm

Smiley wrote:

Someone should check to see how many of those poor stuffed animals have been yiffed with.

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:22 pm

I doubt these are the only "furries" making an appearance at this years Wikimania event.

Unread post by **Midsize Jake** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:39 pm

Jans Hammer wrote:not sure I understand this

If I had to guess, it probably has something to do with Argentina being one of those countries for which it's possible to interpret recent history in two or more extreme ways and still claim to be accurate. For example, the Perons were despotic and corrupt, and helped numerous Nazis escape international justice, but they also implemented policies that helped workers and poor people. Later, the Falklands/Malvinas conflict could be called both a justifiable rejection of lingering colonialism and also a petty, warmongering domestic distraction by a dictatorial military government... and so on.

Like I mentioned in the thread about the recent "Working Group" diversity recommendations, IMO people from countries like this probably don't trust American organizations (no matter how well-meaning they seem, or claim to be) to maintain and present their history, or anything else, in a way that doesn't serve American and/or British/West-European interests. They still like the idea of being part of a "global movement," and presumably also getting their hands on as much of the resources of that "global movement" as they can, but when it comes to the actual information being disseminated, surprise-surprise, they greatly prefer local control.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:44 pm

Kumioko wrote:I doubt these are the only "furries" making an appearance at this years Wikimania event.

There will doubtless be a few in disguise, though there probably won't be many in full furry regalia.

Unread post by **Smiley** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:12 am

Smiley wrote:Stephen Harrison. "Wikimania to the Rescue" Slate, 16 Aug 2019

Juicer confirmed.

mendaliv · Unread post by **mendaliv** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:43 am

Jans Hammer wrote:Probably not the best composed picture ever taken

One of the best terms I've ever heard to describe photos like this is "snapshit". Portmanteau of "snapshot" and "shit". Poorly focused as well. I guess the "face-finder" autofocus didn't recognize her as a human face.

Edit: The quoted image was photoshopped, but the original was also low-quality.

mendaliv · Unread post by **mendaliv** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:46 am

Midsize Jake wrote:Like I mentioned in the thread about the recent "Working Group" diversity recommendations, IMO people from countries like this probably don't trust American organizations (no matter how well-meaning they seem, or claim to be) to maintain and present their history, or anything else, in a way that doesn't serve American and/or British/West-European interests.

I hope they keep it up. If I were from any non-anglophone nation, I'd not trust WMF any more than I'd trust a bunch of voluntourists to do the right thing.

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:20 am

This isn't going to earn me any favors, lol.

https://twitter.com/Kumioko2/status/116 ... 04129?s=19

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:02 am

Lol, who did this?
https://twitter.com/wikimediasucks/stat ... 2135461894

Osborne · Unread post by **Osborne** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:51 am

Kumioko wrote:Lol, who did this?
https://twitter.com/wikimediasucks/stat ... 2135461894

"I hope you know the cesspool you are diving into. The organization and the community are both toxic!"

I remember someone always calling WP a cesspool...

Kumioko · Unread post by **Kumioko** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:56 am

I've certainly done it and obviously I am the Kumioko one. I assume some smart alec here made the Wikimedia sucks one.

Osborne · Unread post by **Osborne** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:30 am

There will be quite a few livestreamed presentations:
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/20 ... ive_stream

But not the Karman room, with the Working Groups' panels:
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/20 ... media_2030

The Argentinian lady was introduced at 3:10 of Free Knowledge and the Sustainable Development Goals - Spotlight Session

Jans Hammer · Unread post by **Jans Hammer** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:57 am

Kumioko wrote:I've certainly done it and obviously I am the Kumioko one. I assume some smart alec here made the Wikimedia sucks one.

How many replies / likes / RTs to these so far?

Unread post by **Smiley** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:34 pm

Jans Hammer · Unread post by **Jans Hammer** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:45 pm

I wonder which WMF flunky will write this content

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:02 pm

https://twitter.com/hadyelsahar/status/ ... 0892490753

Majority of readers of non colonial languages on #Wikipedia are monolingual native speakers. (i.e. they don't understand English) an incentive to provide high quality content in all languages~ Isaac Johnson at the research track @Wikimania #Wikimania2019

White_guilt (T-H-L) is alive and kicking.
The virtue signalling is in full display this year.

Earthy Astringent · Unread post by **Earthy Astringent** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:53 pm

Vigilant wrote:https://twitter.com/hadyelsahar/status/ ... 0892490753

Majority of readers of non colonial languages on #Wikipedia are monolingual native speakers. (i.e. they don't understand English) an incentive to provide high quality content in all languages~ Isaac Johnson at the research track @Wikimania #Wikimania2019
White_guilt (T-H-L) is alive and kicking.
The virtue signalling is in full display this year.

White Guilt is cultural appropriation from the self hating Jew.
Shitlords!

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:41 pm

"14-32% of all editors classified as subject matter experts"? Where did that come from and who decided that they were experts? Even if the figure is correct, do all of these "experts" confine themselves to their areas of expertise?

Osborne · Unread post by **Osborne** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:59 pm

Poetlister wrote:"14-32% of all editors classified as subject matter experts"? Where did that come from and who decided that they were experts? Even if the figure is correct, do all of these "experts" confine themselves to their areas of expertise?

As academic editors are mostly banned, those must be "self-identified subject matter experts"

Which is not a problem in my view, nor implies that their contribution might not be even better than academic contributors'.
I only see a problem in academics being an "underrepresented" social group.

I bet this finding is missing from the Diversity Group's research.

rhindle · Unread post by **rhindle** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:18 pm

As Jimbo once said a 17 year-old is more often correct than an expert with intense training and years of experience in the field

Osborne · Unread post by **Osborne** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:22 pm

rhindle wrote:As Jimbo once said a 17 year-old is more often correct than an expert with intense training and years of experience in the field

I love this forum, and this topic is the highlight

Unread post by **Smiley** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:28 pm

rhindle wrote:As Jimbo once said a 17 year-old is more often correct than an expert with intense training and years of experience in the field

The kind of advice one might get from a veteran sex tourist.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:28 pm

On the topics in which I would consider myself well informed, I rarely run across a wikipedia article that doesn't contain an error, an omission or that wasn't completely out of date.

Jans Hammer · Unread post by **Jans Hammer** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:30 pm

Smiley wrote:
rhindle wrote:As Jimbo once said a 17 year-old is more often correct than an expert with intense training and years of experience in the field

The kind of advice one might get from a veteran sex tourist.

I rarely find a 17 year-old articulate enough to appear to be correct about anything

The Adversary · Unread post by **The Adversary** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:39 pm

Jans Hammer wrote:Probably not the best composed picture ever taken

So, she has gotten herself a "Dalahäst", (or, in en.wp: Dalecarlian horse (T-H-L))...the about most touristy thing you can get in Sweden...

Moral Hazard · Unread post by **Moral Hazard** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:43 pm

Midsize Jake wrote:
Jans Hammer wrote:not sure I understand this
If I had to guess, it probably has something to do with Argentina being one of those countries for which it's possible to interpret recent history in two or more extreme ways and still claim to be accurate. For example, the Perons were despotic and corrupt, and helped numerous Nazis escape international justice, but they also implemented policies that helped workers and poor people. Later, the Falklands/Malvinas conflict could be called both a justifiable rejection of lingering colonialism and also a petty, warmongering domestic distraction by a dictatorial military government... and so on.

Argentina completed a genocide against its native population.

The USA and Argentina had the same GDP per capita in 1900. Argentina sent foreign aid to Sweden, to help it out of poverty.

Moral Hazard · Unread post by **Moral Hazard** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:46 pm

The Adversary wrote:So, she has gotten herself a "Dalahäst", (or, in en.wp: Dalecarlian horse (T-H-L))...the about most touristy thing you can get in Sweden...

The most common may be chlamydia.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:18 pm

Vigilant wrote:On the topics in which I would consider myself well informed, I rarely run across a wikipedia article that doesn't contain an error, an omission or that wasn't completely out of date.

To which any Wikipedian would say SOFIXIT. That's agreat idea, making it impossible to criticise Wikipedia's accuracy by putting the blame on the critic. (Of course, we all know that correcting errors isn't quite that straightforward.)