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Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 am

Are you tired of volunteering and getting nothing in return?
Having a tip jar on user pages

Any thoughts on whether as a community we would allow adding a 'tip jar' to a user page?

Though I've had some support and the odd donation over the years towards hardware, the vast majority of my projects have had nil funding and ongoing costs of bandwidth, some software, and wear and tear (on memory and drives) have never been factored in. It would not count as spam, so I think this would be allowable under the WMF terms of use (happy to be corrected) and I could declare any donations via this route if folx wanted transparency and if there were any to declare! Maybe if we do allow it, we might want to define in what circumstances/projects/types of users where it would be valid. --Fæ (talk) 17:26, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:49 am

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:53 am

Oooh! A bribe jar! What a brilliant idea! :applause:

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:07 am

Ashley,

The ‘work’ you do isn’t worth a 10 year old used laptop.
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Unread post by Zoloft » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:48 am

For the 'Hasten The Day' adherents here, creating a fund to expand Fae's work is probably a great idea.

Given Fae's innate tendency to sow chaos, confusion, and disorder in the WMF's projects, it would be an investment with a staggeringly high return on money spent.

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Unread post by owl be it » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:22 pm

Zoloft wrote:
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For the 'Hasten The Day' adherents here, creating a fund to expand Fae's work is probably a great idea.

Given Fae's innate tendency to sow chaos, confusion, and disorder in the WMF's projects, it would be an investment with a staggeringly high return on money spent.
"Hasten the Fae", perhaps?
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Unread post by gentlegnome » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:32 pm

Since the site's main purpose is to host pornography, it only makes sense for Commons to adopt the OnlyFans model.

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Unread post by Poetlister » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:30 pm

I don't think Fae is expecting anything from the WMF; he wants suckers other editors to make donations. Hm, is that such a novel idea?
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Unread post by Silent Editor » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:26 am

Ashley wrote: ...(happy to be corrected)...
I doubt that very much - given history, if you do correct him, he’ll argue with you, demand diffs and links to policy to support your correction, until you tire of trying to correct him.

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Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:08 am

Not to mention the accusations of homophobia and other dreadful sins.
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Unread post by ArmasRebane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:04 pm

Poetlister wrote:
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I don't think Fae is expecting anything from the WMF; he wants suckers other editors to make donations. Hm, is that such a novel idea?
I think the novel part is Fae expecting there are enough people out there who want to support him that he could derive any meaningful amount from such a "tip jar" system.

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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:13 am

In their mind they are the most beloved user Commons ever had, after all they have made so very many contributions! I forget who told me about that, again and again and again. :evilgrin:

The fact that they can't get elected as an admin or get on the volunteer response team is only because of homophobia, it can't possibly because nobody trusts them.
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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:37 am

Aaaand now Fae has decided to make a new thread complaining about this thread and claiming they are frightened of me. :rotfl: Apparently my comments, which he clearly reads regularly, are super scary and commons should somehow get me fired from the oversight team on en.wp. Good luck with that Fae, enjoy your continued lurking here. :banana: Just so we're clear, we all already know you lurk here, you've made that exceedingly obvious many times, so this isn't the "gotcha" you imagine it is.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:12 am

You should not be allowed on this project. Bullying other Wikimedians by using off-wiki sites as a weapon, and gaming the system to evade any responsibility for your actions, should be abhorrent for every good faith contributor.
Let's be clear:

I stated I am frighted of your hostile campaign and how it might cause me harm
Knowing that, you made this post off-wiki

You know what you are doing, your actions here are deliberate, deeply worrying. --Fæ (talk) 08:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ashley, the drama queen, rides again, "I have stated the 'magic words' and you must now bow to my whims...."

You'd think that if he was really 'frighted' and fearing death threats against himself and his family, he'd simply stop reading WO so religiously.

What he absolutely cannot stand is that we've been the one place that calls him out on his bullying and shitheel behavior and he cannot figure out how to make us stop doing that.

Perhaps if he stopped being a greasy little turd all the time, the interest in him might subside.
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Unread post by Silent Editor » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:25 am

Ashley wrote:You know I get transphobic abuse and death threats.
I missed the bit where Ashley or his online persona Fæ transitioned - could someone post a diff?

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:40 am

Phil Nash aka Rodhullandemu, another ARBCOM blocked dipshit, opines on 'the unfairness of it all'.
05:09, 25 March 2011 Roger Davies talk contribs changed block settings for Rodhullandemu talk contribs with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (Turn off Wikipedia email for now. Refer queries to Arbitration Committee)
I'm amazed than an Admin on any Wiki project is allowed to get away with this. To my mind, its not a matter for Commons. But it is a matter for WMF Trust and Safety, who take a very dim view of off-wiki harassment, whoever is the target. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:36, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Maybe Qworty can ride by and offer his condolences too...

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:57 am

Just saw the edit summaries and laughed.
08:42, 29 August 2021 diff hist +210‎ Commons:Village pump ‎ →‎Beeblebrox: blibberty blar blar blah
08:33, 29 August 2021 diff hist +444‎ Commons:Village pump ‎ →‎Beeblebrox: stfu
21:04, 27 August 2021 diff hist +274‎ Commons:Village pump ‎ →‎Having a tip jar on user pages: spare change? goota quarter? c'mon I uploaded some free images...
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Unread post by Bezdomni » Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:53 pm

If I were the judge, I'd condemn Brer Bbb to read 5 (five) posts aloud from his subforum over at Sucks, and post the resultant .ogg files on commons.

I agree with the panda: if the anonymous Alaskan beadle wishes to pointedly push back a Commoner's coffee-cup, there's no pressing need to rush in and jump up and down on the supplicant at the village pump. (Geez.) :angry:
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Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:45 pm

Beeblebrox wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:37 am
Apparently my comments, which he clearly reads regularly, are super scary and commons should somehow get me fired from the oversight team on en.wp.

Good luck with that Fae, enjoy your continued lurking here. :banana:
It's not personal, Beeblebrox, but you know I am hoping that Commons blocks you. A sitting Arb being blocked on Commons because of Fae (and Rodhullandemu) is just too delicious. I will obviously be voting to block you. I look forward to this spilling over to Wikipedia, where brilliant "OnlyFae" joke can be enjoyed by a wider audience.

On a more serious note, I see that Fae is resorting to his usual slippery use of language to make people associate this site with threats of harm that he receives. This time, however, he has also explicitly stated it:
They have for years been posting in public discussions about me off-wiki where they know that there are people taking part on that site that have run long-term abusive accounts and have made threats against my life and my family.
I have no reason to doubt that Fae has received threats and harassment as a result of his work on Wikipedia and Commons. I'm sure many people have. I do not condone these types of threats. I do not believe that the management of this site condones these types of threats. I would like to think that no one from here would do that, but this is an open forum and some of the people who have visited in the past have shown themselves to be quite horrible people.

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Unread post by Moral Hazard » Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:09 pm

Our long-term visitor Fae is certainly a horribly pathetic person.
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Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:27 pm

Moral Hazard wrote:
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Our long-term visitor Fae is certainly a horribly pathetic person.
And speaking of horribly pathetic persons, someone has shown up on Commons arguing that Beeblebrox should be blocked. That account, Celtic Minded(T-C-F-L) has themselves been blocked. Fae, foolishly believing that any enemy of his enemy is his friend, is agitating for them to be unblocked. Fae, if you don't like what we say about you over here, you probably don't want to read what they say about you over there.

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Unread post by DanMurphy » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:39 pm

Ashley often used false claims of being afraid for his and his family's physical safety to try to win Wikipedia arguments back before his other account, User:Ash, was banned over there. That was over 10 years ago. Gotta admire the commitment.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:36 pm

I was thinking about who might challenge Ashley for the wiki-crown of 'longest, hardest, funniest, most public fall from grace' and couldn't think of anyone who even holds a candle to him.

From being deep in the wikirati as a bigwig in the WMUK to:
* Having his hilarious self uploaded bondage pictures found on commons
* Having his sockpuppet army found out
* Claiming to be a software expert and seeing his 'resume' filled with garbage buzzword bingo terms
* Registering his last name as a website and not using a privacy registrar
* Being the subject of a hilarious news article
* Getting forced out of WMUK
* Getting caught trying to suborn a WMF employee to stop the ARBCOM case
* Getting indef blocked by ARBCOM
* Getting desysoped on en.wp
* Failing an RfA on commons of all places
* Begging for spare change on commons and being denied

I know I'm forgetting a bunch of comedy gold in there, but even that short list is mortally painful on the cringe meter.

Ashley van Haeften is the living embodiment of the LULZ god.

He is self-crucifying for our sins.
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Unread post by el84 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:46 pm

Failed 6 7 RfAs on Commons, so far.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:34 pm

Remember how it all started....
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Unread post by Midsize Jake » Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:59 pm

Vigilant wrote:
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Remember how it all started....
It's a good thing the Wikipedia registration requirements have gotten significantly more reasonable since then. These days, you don't even have to wear the blindfold! :)

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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:05 pm

gross...

Anyhoo, Rodhull is now threatening to get Trust and Safety to open a case on me. But I'm the one doing the intimidating. :hmmm:
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:11 pm

Indef blocked notorious dipshit tries to get Turds and Shits to go after a sitting ARB on behalf of a different notorious dipshit, both of whom were indef'd by previous ARBCOMs and who are now whinging on commons, the septic tank project of the WMF constellation, over comments not made on any wiki sites.

That sure sounds like THE hornet's nest that Toads and Skunks would want to stick their collective dick into... :facepalm:

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:26 pm

Totally not threatening you. Totally.
I'm just telling you how it will be. Perhaps if you'd set the example that an Arbitrator should, this thread would not be here. I didn't even realise you were an Arb, but I checked the list, and my God, there's some dead wood in there. The Augean Stables need cleansing. No threats, just some karma perhaps. Rodhullandemu (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


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Unread post by Smiley » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:36 pm

... I didn't even realise you were an Arb, but I checked the list ... Rodhullandemu, 29th August 2021
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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:32 pm

leaving this here for no reason at all
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:42 pm

Is the Wikimedia Commons admin community really content that this open bullying is "normal" for Wikimedia? I've set my house alarm tonight, I'm frightened that someone might throw a brick through a window or shove a firework through my letterbox. --Fæ (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Because the people who read/post at WO are likely to figure out where he lives, fly to England on the spur of the moment and then engage in petty vandalism of his house because of some mildly funny comments on wikipedia?

LMAO!

The 'Hysterical' article acquires a new spokesturd.

The worst thing that happens to Ashley van Haeften is that he gets roundly mocked or ignored.

This thread delivers.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm

Beeblebrox's response here is deeply worrying. No apology for deliberately comparing me to a sex worker.
I found this line absolutely hilarious.

Given the chat logs that I have where Ashley van Haeften brags about just how many cocks he sucked on a weekend at a gay bath house, he is a sex worker who just doesn't get paid for it.

Or the coin he takes is in ritual humiliation.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:11 pm

They just can't stop coming here and stealing phrases to put in their tantrum spam.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:15 pm

What are the odds that Celtic Minded is Crow's latest incarnation?
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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:18 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm
Given the chat logs that I have where Ashley van Haeften brags about just how many cocks he sucked on a weekend at a gay bath house, he is a sex worker who just doesn't get paid for it.
I've also seen those logs and you really shouldn't bash him for it.

It's kinkshaming, for one thing.

Secondly, blowing 237 dudes in 48 hours is doing more public good than anything anyone has ever done on a wiki.


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Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:23 am

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Unread post by Smiley » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:38 am

Wow.

Ashley van Haeften's biggest advocates are a convicted pedophile who pretends to be a spy, and the guy who's harassed a young female scientist for two years because she once put a citation in the wrong place.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:59 am

Smiley wrote:
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Wow.

Ashley van Haeften's biggest advocates are a convicted pedophile who pretends to be a spy, and the guy who's harassed a young female scientist for two years because she once put a citation in the wrong place.
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Here's a tasty bit for Ashley van Haeften's inevitable 8th RfA attempt.

Advocating for a brand new account whose very first edits were in the middle of a political firestorm and who ends up being globally locked almost immediately.

Excellent judgement there, Ashley.
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Unread post by Ryuichi » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:20 am

Fae@Commons wrote: The forum they have been posting in, has my full legal name and information on how to find my home address.
The home address information... was that posted here and then deleted... or invented out of whole cloth?

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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:39 am

Ryuichi wrote:
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Fae@Commons wrote: The forum they have been posting in, has my full legal name and information on how to find my home address.
The home address information... was that posted here and then deleted... or invented out of whole cloth?
Pretty sure that was on wikipediareview.

He had an email that had the domain 'haeften.com', if I remember right.

I ran 'whois haeften.com' and it popped up with his registration information which included his full legal name, home address and telephone number.

Here's a copy of the site.
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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:48 am

Ryuichi wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:20 am
Fae@Commons wrote: The forum they have been posting in, has my full legal name and information on how to find my home address.
The home address information... was that posted here and then deleted... or invented out of whole cloth?
His full name is associated with the Fae account on the official WMF blog, and his address (up to 2015 at least) is listed on several gov.uk websites.

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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Midsize Jake » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:41 am

Smiley wrote:
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His full name is associated with the Fae account on the official WMF blog, and his address (up to 2015 at least) is listed on several gov.uk websites.
Nonetheless, I think we'd prefer that no one post that information on this site, just so we can't be accused of causing a drop in property values when prospective home-buyers with impressionable children find it on Google while doing real estate searches in his neighborhood.

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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Ryuichi » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:14 am

Vigilant wrote:
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So... he's hanging the "Information on how to find my home address" hat on you having written "Registering his last name as a website and not using a privacy registrar".

That's... hrm... cute.

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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:49 am

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Beeblebrox's response here is deeply worrying. No apology for deliberately comparing me to a sex worker.
Given the chat logs that I have where Ashley van Haeften brags about just how many cocks he sucked on a weekend at a gay bath house, he is a sex worker who just doesn't get paid for it.
I've also seen those logs and you really shouldn't bash him for it.

It's kinkshaming, for one thing. Secondly, blowing 237 dudes in 48 hours probably brings more joy to the public than anything anyone has ever done on a wiki.
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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by pandakekok9 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:31 am

Celtic getting unblocked on Commons, then getting globally locked by Meta the next day, was so hilarious. Never change Commons, never change... :XD

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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:47 am

pandakekok9 wrote:
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Celtic getting unblocked on Commons, then getting globally locked by Meta the next day, was so hilarious. Never change Commons, never change... :XD
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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:54 am

Ashley van Haeften wrote:Beeblebrox is weaponizing trolls off-wiki to doxx his chosen "enemies". That's not normal, it's targeted personal abuse and deeply disturbing harassment.
Chuckling about your bizarre fetish for public self-abasement is not abuse, silly moo.
Repeatedly libeling someone, on the other hand, is definitely harassment.

Meanwhile, a confirmed pedophile is questioning someone else's moral compass...
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Re: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:05 pm

Title: Fae wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money
Smiley wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:18 pm
Vigilant wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm
the chat logs [...] where Ashley van Haeften brags about just how many cocks he sucked on a weekend at a gay bath-house
blowing 237 dudes in 48 hours [...]
Vigilant wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:59 am
Here's a tasty bit for Ashley van Haeften's inevitable 8th RfA attempt.
I see what you all did there.

Maybe the title of the thread could be changed to something less orally fixated?
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