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[Hex]

Jimbo's Sole Flounder status was briefly challenged, but someone has leapt to the rescue - of course. diff only

[dogbiscuit]

Jimbo's Sole Flounder status was briefly challenged, but someone has leapt to the rescue - of course. diff only

Love reading the diff:

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== You can edit this page! ==

Of course that leads us to what the page says:

You can edit this page![edit]



Wikipedia is yours. I trust you.
Become a faithful editor in the public interest!
Really, you can! If you would like to, please feel free to do so. Make an edit! Make several edits! After all, that is what Wikipedia is all about.
I like to keep it a certain way (simple and free from anything that requires a div tag, style, or template) but the thing is, I trust you. Yes, I really do! I trust that you'll add something here that makes me really smile, that informs me, or that helps to inform many others.

But then of course, Jimbo does not really trust us, because he goes on....

But please, don't vandalize.
Over 3,000 Wikipedians monitor my user and user talk page via a watchlist, and I trust them to edit and remove errors or attacks. This is a wiki, so (apart from bad faith alterations and vanadlism) visitors are welcome to edit.

[Jim]

But then of course, Jimbo does not really trust us, because he goes on....

And really, as you point out, there it is...

I think that page has said that for many years, and Jimbo couldn't see the irony if he tried, probably.

"Hey, you can edit here, anyone can, we love it - but try and put one foot over our line, you bastards, and we're watching you... Welcome."

Bit long for a motto, but someone could work it up.

[lilburne]

"Hey, you can edit here, anyone can, we love it - but try and put one foot over our line, you bastards, and we're watching you... Welcome."

Bit long for a motto, but someone could work it up.

EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY
The Once And Future King - TH White.
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/futureking/section3.rhtml

[Poetlister]

But please, don't vandalize.
Over 3,000 Wikipedians monitor my user and user talk page via a watchlist, and I trust them to edit and remove errors or attacks. This is a wiki, so (apart from bad faith alterations and vanadlism) visitors are welcome to edit.

Did Jimbo really make that mistake, or was it a piece of "vanadlism" missed by those 3,000 editors monitoring the page?

[Hex]

Mr. Jinkinson (T-C-L) appears to have something on his mind. A couple of weeks earlier, this: diff

[EricBarbour]

Mr. Jinkinson (T-C-L) appears to have something on his mind. A couple of weeks earlier, this: diff

That's amazing. And he wasn't blocked. Sock of an insider, of course.

[Hex]

Mr. Jinkinson (T-C-L) appears to have something on his mind. A couple of weeks earlier, this: diff

That's amazing. And he wasn't blocked. Sock of an insider, of course.

I doubt it. He appears to be a 19-year-old college kid in Alabama.

[SB_Johnny]

Mr. Jinkinson (T-C-L) appears to have something on his mind. A couple of weeks earlier, this: diff

That's amazing. And he wasn't blocked. Sock of an insider, of course.

I doubt it. He appears to be a 19-year-old college kid in Alabama.

Jimmy is busy doing other things for the cause:

[EricBarbour]

I doubt it. He appears to be a 19-year-old college kid in Alabama.

A 19-year-old college kid in Alabama who fights with others over anti-vaccination articles, pseudoscience, autism, global warming, and creates scores of articles about obscure medical journals? And created the bio of David "MastCell" Gorski, a consummate Wikipedia insider and troll, and dedicated defender of Mathsci? "Replete with difficult-to-find references." Two months after appearing on Wikipedia for the first time (under this name anyway).

And what does Gorski like to troll on WP (and on his blogs) about? Vaccination, pseudoscience, and global warming, of course.

If Jinkinson's a 19-year-old college kid, he's got some powerful friends. And he's specifically creating loads of content to make them happy.

[Poetlister]

If Jinkinson's a 19-year-old college kid, he's got some powerful friends.

That's scarcely an unknown phenomenon on Wikipedia.

[Hex]

Jinkinson has definitely got something on his mind.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kat Walsh (T-H-L)

[Poetlister]

"Obvious keep - seems pretty silly to try to delete this, even before all the references were added. We don't need to artificially follow all the picayune rules when we know that WMF Chairs are notable to our readers." - Smallbones.

"Your smug condescension is not conducive to an adult discussion. This person bio will be held to the notability standards of this project just as anyone else's bio would be ... This is purportedly an encyclopedia not a clubhouse for our buddies, so yes, we do have to follow the project's rules here." - Tarc

Right now, I'd say it's no consensus so since it's a BLP, it should be deleted.

[dogbiscuit]

"Obvious keep - seems pretty silly to try to delete this, even before all the references were added. We don't need to artificially follow all the picayune rules when we know that WMF Chairs are notable to our readers." - Smallbones.

"Your smug condescension is not conducive to an adult discussion. This person bio will be held to the notability standards of this project just as anyone else's bio would be ... This is purportedly an encyclopedia not a clubhouse for our buddies, so yes, we do have to follow the project's rules here." - Tarc

Right now, I'd say it's no consensus so since it's a BLP, it should be deleted.

Smallbones falls into the trap that many a Wikipedian falls into: readers of Wikipedia - millions; vs Teh Communtah - a few hundred. Only a small group of people are interested in the goings on at the WMF - and of course they have their own wiki where they are quite capable of hosting a hagiography more appropriately than en.wikipedia.

Yet again a Wikipedian demonstrates a fundamental failure to appreciate that the readership is an entirely different demographic than the editors.

[Hex]

Yet again a Wikipedian demonstrates a fundamental failure to appreciate that the readership is an entirely different demographic than the editors.

That ol' autistic spectrum again.

[EricBarbour]

"This is purportedly an encyclopedia not a clubhouse for our buddies, so yes, we do have to follow the project's rules here." - Tarc

Well, then, go and delete most of these articles and these articles, you nitwit.
And don't forget this list.

You're there just to troll, aren't you, Tarc?

[Poetlister]

Well, then, go and delete most of these articles and these articles, you nitwit.
And don't forget this list.

You're there just to troll, aren't you, Tarc?

To be fair to Tarc, I think it's beyond his abilities to do that. And he is making a valid point!

[HRIP7]

The article was redirected to Wikimedia Foundation.

[Hex]

Well, then, go and delete most of these articles and these articles, you nitwit.

For your reference, I had a look through both of those and most of them seem to be notable for other reasons beyond Wikipedia/WMF. On the other hand, two of them struck me as not doing so, and for that reason I've started Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Achal Prabhala (2nd nomination) (T-H-L) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Snow (attorney) (2nd nomination)‎ (T-H-L).

Note to any lurking Wikipedians: this is not "canvassing". I was not recruited to any cause of trying to delete WMF-related biographies by Eric's comment quoted above; I came to this conclusion based on my own reading of these articles and checking them for compliance with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Likewise, I am not asking anyone reading this post to rush over to those AfDs and vote "delete". If anyone reading this does cast a vote for deletion, it should be on the basis of their own reading and checking of my rationales for deletion having convinced them that doing so would be the right course of action. Which, of course, is how everyone should be approaching AfDs in general.

It's a sad state of affairs when I have to include a disclaimer like that, but them's the breaks I guess.

[EricBarbour]

For your reference, I had a look through both of those and most of them seem to be notable for other reasons beyond Wikipedia/WMF. On the other hand, two of them struck me as not doing so, and for that reason I've started Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Achal Prabhala (2nd nomination) (T-H-L) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Snow (attorney) (2nd nomination)‎ (T-H-L).

Best of luck. Don't be surprised if WMF employees show up to vote keep.

Note to any lurking Wikipedians: this is not "canvassing". I was not recruited to any cause of trying to delete WMF-related biographies by Eric's comment quoted above; I came to this conclusion based on my own reading of these articles and checking them for compliance with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Likewise, I am not asking anyone reading this post to rush over to those AfDs and vote "delete". If anyone reading this does cast a vote for deletion, it should be on the basis of their own reading and checking of my rationales for deletion having convinced them that doing so would be the right course of action. Which, of course, is how everyone should be approaching AfDs in general.

They should, but they often don't, of course. IRC canvassing seems to work better than anything else, including being right.

[Kelly Martin]

Note to any lurking Wikipedians: this is not "canvassing". I was not recruited to any cause of trying to delete WMF-related biographies by Eric's comment quoted above; I came to this conclusion based on my own reading of these articles and checking them for compliance with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Likewise, I am not asking anyone reading this post to rush over to those AfDs and vote "delete". If anyone reading this does cast a vote for deletion, it should be on the basis of their own reading and checking of my rationales for deletion having convinced them that doing so would be the right course of action. Which, of course, is how everyone should be approaching AfDs in general.

It's a sad state of affairs when I have to include a disclaimer like that, but them's the breaks I guess.

Except it is "canvassing", because as Wikipedia defines that term "canvassing" is any mention of any "non-vote" vote on Wikipedia in any place where it can be seen by others who cannot be trusted not to mention that you've done so to anyone else. You're supposed to post such comments only to private mailing lists, secret IRC channels, and other similar places. Posting them where anyone can see them (like on an Internet message board) is, without any doubt, canvassing. Simply put, any attempt to bring attention to a "non-vote vote" by people who aren't supposed to be participating in it is canvassing, and by Wikipedia standards anyone participating in Wikipediocracy is pretty much the antithesis of someone who should be participating in Wikipedian democracy. Furthermore, your disclaimer proves your own guilt.

Remember, in Wikipedia everything is simultaneously prohibited, permitted, and required, all depending on who your friends and enemies are at any given moment.