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Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in 2014

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:14 pm

Thryduulf (T-C-L)/Chris McKenna (T-H-L) often is discussed at Wikipediocracy. He is running for Arbcom (2015), after having been elected to only one year in 2014.
Vigilant wrote:Thryduulf (T-C-L) is one of the mattbuck (T-C-L)/russavia (T-C-L)/haiduc (T-C-L)/beta_m (T-C-L)crowd. There's never been a picture too vile for him to keep.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2226&p=42072&hilit=thryduulf#p42072
As Vigilant noted Thryduulf votes to keep sexual images of little educational value:
These were on the first page of a search of Thryduulf and "deletion": :nsfw:
c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Licking while self masturbating.jpg (T-H-L)
Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:04, 29 November 2013 (UTC) Keep per mattbuck and Mercurywoodrose. Thryduulf (talk) 08:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: FASTILY 11:17
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Anilingus.jpg (T-H-L)
passes that threshold. Thryduulf (talk) 09:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: FASTILY 11:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC) This deletion debate is now closed. Please
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Frenum Piercing Ultra00 02.jpg (T-H-L)
close up. Keep until we have many comparable images of higher quality. Thryduulf (talk) 08:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Licking natural pussy00.jpg (T-H-L)
absolutely within Commons' scope and is of sufficient quality to be used. Thryduulf (talk) 09:00, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fellatio05.JPG (T-H-L)
more images in sub-categories but this image does not fit into them. Thryduulf (talk) 08:52, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: no consensus to delete FASTILY
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fellatio06.JPG (T-H-L)
discourse about how different body parts are blurred in different contexts. Thryduulf (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: FASTILY 07:12, 4 December 2013
1 KB (160 words) - 08:03, 4 December 2013

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Autofellation 2.JPG (T-H-L)
autofellatio (and the other image does not unambiguously depict this). Thryduulf (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: FASTILY 07:12, 4 December 2013
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Glans tongue stimulation001.JPG (T-H-L)
within scope. We don't have many fellatio images shown from this angle. Thryduulf 09:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: FASTILY 07:12, 4 December 2013
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fellatio04.JPG (T-H-L)
discourse about how different body parts are blurred in different contexts. Thryduulf (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Deleted: consensus seems to be in
2 KB (249 words) - 12:03, 4 December 2013

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mardi Gras Flashing - Color.jpg (T-H-L)
Mail than to be photographed participating in a Mardis Gras tradition. Thryduulf (talk) 23:44, 26 April 2013 (UTC) Okay, so imagine something that you
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With his earnest discussions of blowjobs, Thryduulf seems to be a character from a Kevin Smith movie, perhaps one with a cousin who died from neck strain in "Clerks". The last image is especially disturbing, presumably of at least one intoxicated girl or young woman, unable to give consent.
Second page: :nsfw:
c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fellatio gay.jpg (T-H-L)
explained by mattbuck. It isn't partcularly low quality. And if "most Wikipedia projects use alternative images" were a legitimate ground for deletion on Commons
5 KB (735 words) - 21:12, 6 December 2013

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Shavedcloseup.JPG (T-H-L)
was previously kept when nominated with essentially the same rationale. Thryduulf (talk) 08:45, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Info Comparison report for images
4 KB (432 words) - 06:49, 15 December 2013

c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Elsie + Keely.jpg (T-H-L)
"porn" is not a reason for deletion. Suicidegirls is within en.wp scope, ergo pictures of suicidegirls are within ours. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:04, 27 November
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/Template:The Hot sex barnstar (T-H-L)
irrelevant. It seems to be perfectly within Commons policies and precedents. Thryduulf (talk) 10:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC) Delete If in an alternate universe, the
17 KB (2,240 words) - 03:50, 18 May 2013

c:Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Stan Spanker (T-H-L)
refuted every single one of your reasons for deletion. Please let me know if I have missed any. Thryduulf (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC) Comments on
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Chris McKenna is not an intellect or soul for guiding an encyclopedia.
The Devil's Advocate wrote:According to ... Thryduulf (T-C-L), Cla68 is "stalking" Morwen by reading a public Twitter feed discussing the Manning name dispute.
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3087&p=64135&hilit ... ulf#p64135
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Vigilant wrote:Wow.

Thryduulf (T-C-L) is kind of a dick.
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For a single, good faith, action in a highly divisive situation?
Even MONGO thinks Thryduulf's a dick about this.
Thryduulf is another longtime friend of Morwen.

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Description     English: The hand of God Morwen.
     Photograph taken by me (Chris McKenna) 2005-03-26.
Author     Thryduulf at en.wikipedia

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Triptych wrote:Wikipedians that have parlayed their hyperactivity and administrative ladder-climbing there into actual employment at the Wikimedia Foundation charity?
[...]
Thryduulf (temporary employee WMF for several months 2014 in relation to Wikimania London).
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:16 pm

Thryduulf was unhelpful dealing with the Indian diploma mill.
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Lukeno94 wrote:Thryduulf's excuse for not accepting the evidence here? That they can't guarantee the evidence won't magically change by the next day. :facepalm:
Whereas I am not comfortable with evidence presented in some external venue the Committee have no control over being used to judge someone's actions on Wikipedia. We have no guarantee that any evidence that allegedly exists at an external site will remain there, nor that what it says today will be the same as what it says tomorrow. If you want the evidence to be considered as part of this case, then it must be presented as part of this case. Thryduulf (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I emailed the arbs to ask if I could send them a nicely formatted version of the evidence compiled here, carefully summarised with diffs, and in wiki format but they said they couldn't because if they posted evidence on behalf of someone, they would have to 'take ownership' of the contents, and that would put them in an impossible position.

I don't quite see why. In other cases outside Wikipedia, you know, real world, I have sent evidence by a third party which has been published with careful disclaimers that they are not taking ownership. So I don't follow.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:20 pm

Yesterday, I quoted Vigilant's comment on Thryduulf, who had blocked me for referring to Demiurge1000 (T-C-L)'s block log, in which he had been blocked for lying (by Mason / 28Bytes (T-C-L)).
Jim wrote:
Moral Hazard wrote:Alluding to the mistakes of Worm That Turned, fellows, is amusing but perhaps unfair, since he has repeatedly apologized---which is more than one can say about e.g. arbitrator Thryduulf (T-C-L) (then a clerk):
You still appear to be making insinuations about Demiurge1000 (T-C-L), e.g. "Demiurge1000 immediately told the child how to go around the parental controls. In fact, he then continued emailing and IMing the boy, despite the parental objections (and indeed, at last, the boy's)." from approximately half an hour ago on this very page. Thryduulf (T-C-L)(talk) 21:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

A factual description of behavior is not an insinuation in the ordinary, non-trivial sense of insinuation. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (T-C-L) 21:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Of course, the link to the Simple Wikipedia and an offsite kiddy-wiki were provided many times during the case, as Thryduulf knew.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2310&p=44776&hilit= ... +IM#p44776
Thryduulf has plummeted in my estimation, since being elected. Thryduulf would be my vote for "most disappointing new arb".
Perhaps Thryduulf feels being elected to arbcom is some sort of success in life, and grants one powers of wisdom.
Perhaps Thryduulf is wrong.

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You added:
Kiefer wrote:But Thryduulf and others are just motherfucking disinformation spreaders, who actively and knowiingly helped Demiurge1000 to continue hanging out on Wikipedia for almost 2 years, and who have not even issued one word of self criticism.
I'm finding it hard to disagree with that.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:28 pm

Moral Hazard wrote:An IRC bromance flowered on English Wikipedia during the Arbcom case that led to Ironholds (T-C-L) losing his administrator status.
Thank you for the barnstar
It's just a pitty that I can't yet use VE to add it to my collection :) Thryduulf (T-C-L)(talk) 13:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
No problem! And yeah, that's coming, by way of Flow :). Okeyes (WMF) (T-C-L) (talk) 13:26, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
... (more of the same)

Thank you again
Wow, I wasn't expecting another barnstar! Thank you. Thryduulf (T-C-L)(talk) 22:20, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

You earned it, many times over :). Okeyes (WMF) (T-C-L) (talk) 22:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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Thryduulf gives as good as he gets, at least from Keyes.
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For your unfailing patience and kindness dealing with VisualEditor related problems and the users struggling with them :). (also for the fantastic car analogy). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate I already gave you a barnstar for it, but I've just looked at the feedback page for the first time since stepping off my flight, and wow: you deserve another one :). Thanks for all you've done for the VE project thus far. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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I am curious whether Thryduulf recused when Arbcom considered unbanning me.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:31 pm

If there were ever a more poignant example of a broken man-child on en.wp....
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Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:35 pm

Thryduulf's latest claim to fame is his high standard for taking action against the sexual harassment of a woman editor. Please compare his different standard when his friend Morwen was involved with somebody reading a twitter feed (above).
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Randy from Boise wrote:I've got no idea why it takes two months to ban a long-term combative pain-in-the-ass, content warrior, and shit-stirrer or not; and to turn over details of her repulsive harasser to WMF for the inevitable SanFranBan that will follow...
From the Proposed decision talk page:
Lightbreather has been receiving abusive emails and having fake images of herself posted on porn sites. We (arbitrators and functionaries) have been and are conducting extensive and detailed investigations into these issues - and these investigations are one of the principle reasons for the length of time this case has taken. We have indefinitely blocked multiple accounts as a result of these investigations, but it has to date not been possible for us to identify the person (or persons) responsible for the images on porn sites with the standard of proof required to take action. We have been sharing the information we have as a result of our investigations with the WMF, but as of the most recent time they advised us of the progress of their independent investigation they to had not been able to identify anybody to the standard of proof they required to take action. It must also be borne in mind that the ultimate sanction that we can hand out is an indefinite ban from the English Wikipedia. We have no powers over what any person does on any place on the internet or what emails anybody sends (other than those sent using the email user facility on the English Wikipedia). We (the arbitration committee) are unable to take any legal actions regarding any harassment received or perpetrated by Wikipedians, for example we do not have the power to require any site to take down any content they host - we can ask but if the site involved says "no" there is nothing more we can do. Thryduulf (talk) 00:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
ArbCom's standard for action and San Francisco's are probably not the same, of course.

RfBviewtopic.php?f=38&t=6365&p=142188&hili ... lf#p142188
Updated: McKenna's stance was not a one-time mistake:
Vigilant wrote:I cannot believe you guys elected this cowpat to ARBCOM
Ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag wrote:The female editor in question should also report the matter privately to the person's employer/sponsoring institution so that appropriate disciplinary action can be taken, and to the WMF (and local chapter if relevant) so that all parties are aware. It is also the case that allegations of harassment (or other misconduct for that matter) against someone does not permit the outing of that person. Thryduulf (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Even if you commit a crime, the victim may not unmask the en.wp account of the perpetrator. Got it.
I also thinks it's terribly chickenshit that ARBCOM required some sort of unanimity when they could have posted something like
14. Scalhotrod sexually harassed Lightbreather off-wiki.
and put it to a vote.

Let's see where the chips fall.
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6365&p=145456&hili ... lf#p145456
Stan Dixon wrote:Reading this:
"The female editor in question should also report the matter privately to the person's employer/sponsoring institution so that appropriate disciplinary action can be taken, and to the WMF (and local chapter if relevant) so that all parties are aware. It is also the case that allegations of harassment (or other misconduct for that matter) against someone does not permit the outing of that person. Thryduulf (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)"
Isn't this a recommendation to commit the Wiki crime of outing?
Where are all the cries of outrage, here and on Wiki?
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had we been able to conclusively connect the perpetrator to a Wikipedia account that action would have been taken (almost certainly a site ban). Thryduulf (talk) 09:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
That's just feeble.
Vigilant wrote:Thrydull aka Chris McKenna said he was unconvinced that it's the same person and holds out that it might be a coincidence or 'joe job'.
Lightbreather tells us that she has sent us all the evidence she has and I have also seen the evidence dug up by the functionaries' and arbitrators' investigations. Lightbreather mentioned she has shared some of the evidence she has on Wikipediocracy - i.e. unless she has presented new evidence at WO (in which case why has she not sent it to us?) it is a subset of what I have seen, but I do not know what subset that is. At first glance the evidence is pretty convincing, but when you actually look closely, particularly at the links between locations, the evidence is not, in the opinion of most (but not an absolute majority) arbs and functionaries, strong enough to rule out coincidences and/or joe jobs. Thryduulf (talk) 20:53, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
That position is so far from a conclusion that anything with a functioning nervous ganglia would come to that I am unsure how Chris continues to exchange gasses without external mechanical assistance.
He may even bump Risker off her perch as the dumbest person to ever serve on ARBCOM.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Jim » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:42 pm

Moral Hazard wrote:
Jim wrote:I'm finding it hard to disagree with that.
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6193&p=137721&hili ... lf#p137721
I'm glad you included a link to that topic, K. It's worth a quick click for anyone considering re-electing Thryduulf, to recall how knee-jerk resistant he was to the evidence that exposed the "Indian Faker", because of its origins at the BADSITE.

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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Oblia » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:50 pm

Right off the bat, here's one of my problems with Thryduulf. He's an admin and arb with a "This user enjoys contributing to Wikipedia without wearing clothes" box on his user page. And that box, of course, links to the :nsfw: Nudity (T-H-L) article with, of course, photos. Honestly, if you want to edit nude, fine, but I don't want to read an advertisement about it.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:52 pm

Oblia wrote:Right off the bat, here's one of my problems with Thryduulf. He's an admin and arb with a "This user enjoys contributing to Wikipedia without wearing clothes" box on his user page. And that box, of course, links to the :nsfw: Nudity (T-H-L) article with, of course, photos. Honestly, if you want to edit nude, fine, but I don't want to read an advertisement about it.
This is what you're worried about here?

Jesus. Could you be anymore of a lightweight thinker?
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:02 pm

I never understood why Thryduulf was upset about Scott / Hex regaining his administrator tools.
Hex wrote:
SB_Johnny wrote: If that's the TL;DR version, I assume the brief version was something like "Idiots. Yes, you."
Heh, no, I meant that was the TL;DR summary.

It's now 23 hours since Thryduulf said "there are questions we want Scott's answers to" and 22 hours since I emailed them - without even an acknowledgement that they've read it. Any bets how long it will take them to say anything? Or let me know what those questions are, or what the "evidence" is.

Meanwhile, critical comments are starting to pile up at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard (T-H-L).

Edit:
Thryduulf wrote: We have explained everything we can currently publicly explain already. When we make a decision we will probably be able to explain more. Thryduulf (talk) 21:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
"Probably". Hmm.
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6583&hilit=thryduulf#p143470
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Vigilant wrote:Perhaps I could have been more clear.
People who obsessively edit wikipedia in a single area have a high degree of overlap with OCD and autistic people.
Chris McKenna's train obsession rivals that of SchuminWeb and the most tenacious of the WP:ROADS crew.
There's something not right in that.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Oblia » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:03 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Oblia wrote:Right off the bat, here's one of my problems with Thryduulf. He's an admin and arb with a "This user enjoys contributing to Wikipedia without wearing clothes" box on his user page. And that box, of course, links to the :nsfw: Nudity (T-H-L) article with, of course, photos. Honestly, if you want to edit nude, fine, but I don't want to read an advertisement about it.
This is what you're worried about here?

Jesus. Could you be anymore of a lightweight thinker?
I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.

How would you like to call a customer service number and the guy on the other end says, "Hello. I like to perform customer service without wearing clothes. How may I help you today?" (I'm thinking of the guy in the South Park "Security Breach" episode.)
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by collect » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:04 pm

Moral Hazard wrote:Yesterday, I quoted Vigilant's comment on Thryduulf, who had blocked me for referring to Demiurge1000 (T-C-L)'s block log, in which he had been blocked for lying (by Mason / 28Bytes (T-C-L)).
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Moral Hazard wrote:Alluding to the mistakes of Worm That Turned, fellows, is amusing but perhaps unfair, since he has repeatedly apologized---which is more than one can say about e.g. arbitrator Thryduulf (T-C-L) (then a clerk):
You still appear to be making insinuations about Demiurge1000 (T-C-L), e.g. "Demiurge1000 immediately told the child how to go around the parental controls. In fact, he then continued emailing and IMing the boy, despite the parental objections (and indeed, at last, the boy's)." from approximately half an hour ago on this very page. Thryduulf (T-C-L)(talk) 21:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

A factual description of behavior is not an insinuation in the ordinary, non-trivial sense of insinuation. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (T-C-L) 21:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Of course, the link to the Simple Wikipedia and an offsite kiddy-wiki were provided many times during the case, as Thryduulf knew.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2310&p=44776&hilit= ... +IM#p44776
Thryduulf has plummeted in my estimation, since being elected. Thryduulf would be my vote for "most disappointing new arb".
Perhaps Thryduulf feels being elected to arbcom is some sort of success in life, and grants one powers of wisdom.
Perhaps Thryduulf is wrong.

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You added:
Kiefer wrote:But Thryduulf and others are just motherfucking disinformation spreaders, who actively and knowiingly helped Demiurge1000 to continue hanging out on Wikipedia for almost 2 years, and who have not even issued one word of self criticism.
I'm finding it hard to disagree with that.
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Oblia wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Oblia wrote:Right off the bat, here's one of my problems with Thryduulf. He's an admin and arb with a "This user enjoys contributing to Wikipedia without wearing clothes" box on his user page. And that box, of course, links to the :nsfw: Nudity (T-H-L) article with, of course, photos. Honestly, if you want to edit nude, fine, but I don't want to read an advertisement about it.
This is what you're worried about here?

Jesus. Could you be anymore of a lightweight thinker?
I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.

How would you like to call a customer service number and the guy on the other end says, "Hello. I like to perform customer service without wearing clothes. How may I help you today?" (I'm thinking of the guy in the South Park "Security Breach" episode.)
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I thought his imposition of a two-way interaction ban between Lightbreather and Scalhotrod while Karanacs' case against Lightbreather was underway was pretty crappy. Talk about kicking someone while they're down.
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Oblia wrote:I thought his imposition of a two-way interaction ban between Lightbreather and Scalhotrod while Karanacs' case against Lightbreather was underway was pretty crappy. Talk about kicking someone while they're down.
Yeah Thryduulf is just another example of a little antisocial child who became an admin, finally got some power and does whatever they want to whomever they want with impunity. They got to be an Arb for a year and it was arguably the worst Arbcom ever, its time for them to move on and go do some edits that actually improve the project.

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I still :angryfire: a bit over his ignoring reasonable arguments to delete project-space shortcuts WP:CUM (discussion) and WP:Fag (discussion) a few years ago.
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I was very disappointed with Thryduulf in the Lightbreather-case.... he was basically telling women editors who had suffered long-term abuse to "leave it all to WMF"....when WMF have accomplished exactly zero.... :facepalm:

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Moral Hazard wrote:Thryduulf (T-C-L)/Chris McKenna (T-H-L)
Which Chris McKenna is he?
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Moral Hazard wrote:...presumably of at least one intoxicated girl or young woman, unable to give consent.
Please.

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Unread post by Moral Hazard » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:19 am

thekohser wrote:
Moral Hazard wrote:...presumably of at least one intoxicated girl or young woman, unable to give consent.
Please.
I'm an expert at fake indignation. You're degrading our stock and trade.
The original photograph is from a staged session, true. However, the picture lacks a model-consent form.

For obvious reasons, I did not investigate every picture involving Thryduulf and a deletion discussion on Commons.

It may be that one of the autofellatio images concerns a Swiss avante-guard band, influenced by Kraftwerk and The Beautiful South, and its album about the harms of car emissions.
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Unread post by Hex » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:43 am

Oblia wrote: I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, if I was feeling mean I could embed a photo of Thryduulf here. Luckily, I'm not.
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Moral Hazard wrote: As Vigilant noted Thryduulf votes to keep sexual images of little educational value:
These were on the first page of a search of Thryduulf and "deletion": :nsfw:
c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Licking while self masturbating.jpg (T-H-L)
Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:04, 29 November 2013 (UTC) Keep per mattbuck and Mercurywoodrose. Thryduulf (talk) 08:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Kept: FASTILY 11:17
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Just a quick note to say that if you're going to use the wparticle tag to link to a page in the Commons: namespace, you need to put "c:" (or "commons:") on it first, otherwise Wikipedia will interpret the "Commons:" in the page name as the site with the page. I've fixed all the links in your post.
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Hex wrote:
Oblia wrote: I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, if I was feeling mean I could embed a photo of Thryduulf here. Luckily, I'm not.
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Unread post by Moral Hazard » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:57 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Hex wrote:
Oblia wrote: I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, if I was feeling mean I could embed a photo of Thryduulf here. Luckily, I'm not.
You tease. I thought you had a nude one.
He could get work as a stand in for Bubbles on Trailer Park Boys.
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Unread post by Oblia » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:16 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Hex wrote:
Oblia wrote: I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, if I was feeling mean I could embed a photo of Thryduulf here. Luckily, I'm not.
You tease. I thought you had a nude one.
Imagine him nude, going over the Avrgguy01/Scalhotrod evidence during the LB case. Creepy, no? (Like I said, I think of the South Park "Security Breach" guy.)
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Unread post by Jim » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:52 pm

Oblia wrote:Imagine him nude, going over the Avrgguy01/Scalhotrod evidence during the LB case. Creepy, no?
I dunno. It's your imagination, not mine, despite your detailed "instructions". Does sound creepy, though maybe not in the way you intended...
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Oblia wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Hex wrote:
Oblia wrote: I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, if I was feeling mean I could embed a photo of Thryduulf here. Luckily, I'm not.
You tease. I thought you had a nude one.
Imagine him nude, going over the Avrgguy01/Scalhotrod evidence during the LB case. Creepy, no? (Like I said, I think of the South Park "Security Breach" guy.)
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Hex wrote:
Oblia wrote: I said "right off the bat," but I have other complaints with the guy. But honestly, let's say you've never heard of this admin before and he replies to a comment you've made, or maybe he's given you a warning or something on your user page. Or maybe you've read something he's written on a noticeboard or at ArbCom. You click on his name to learn a little about him and he wants you to know that he likes to edit nude. Now you've go to sweep whatever picture that thought plants in your brain. Ugh.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, if I was feeling mean I could embed a photo of Thryduulf here. Luckily, I'm not.
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Jim wrote:
Oblia wrote:Imagine him nude, going over the Avrgguy01/Scalhotrod evidence during the LB case. Creepy, no?
I dunno. It's your imagination, not mine, despite your detailed "instructions". Does sound creepy, though maybe not in the way you intended...
Like I said, if people want to edit in the nude, fine, but advertising it is TMI in a collaborative environment.
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No matter whose 'side' someone is on, making fun of their appearance is unkind.
Let's try not to do that, please.

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I'll always remember Thryduulf as the guy who became obsessed with trying to have Stefan4 banned and refused to allow a thread about Stefan4 to be put to rest. Why are Wikipedians electing people who are utterly incapable of letting bygones be bygones to a conflict resolution body?

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Zoloft wrote:No matter whose 'side' someone is on, making fun of their appearance is unkind.
Let's try not to do that, please.
I can't speak for others but want to make my own point clear. This isn't about someone's appearance. It's about someone who's in a position to help or hurt others telling them that he likes to do so while naked. It's creepy, even scary to some.
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Oblia wrote:
Zoloft wrote:No matter whose 'side' someone is on, making fun of their appearance is unkind.
Let's try not to do that, please.
I can't speak for others but want to make my own point clear. This isn't about someone's appearance. It's about someone who's in a position to help or hurt others telling them that he likes to do so while naked. It's creepy, even scary to some.
Scary?!
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thekohser wrote:You're degrading our stock and trade.
That's "stock in trade."

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Newyorkbrad wrote:
thekohser wrote:You're degrading our stock and trade.
That's "stock in trade."
Since you're retired from ARBCOM, could you give us some color commentary as the elections proceed?

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Vigilant wrote:
Oblia wrote:
Zoloft wrote:No matter whose 'side' someone is on, making fun of their appearance is unkind.
Let's try not to do that, please.
I can't speak for others but want to make my own point clear. This isn't about someone's appearance. It's about someone who's in a position to help or hurt others telling them that he likes to do so while naked. It's creepy, even scary to some.
Scary?!
You delicate little flower. Turn off your computer and go outside.
Yes, scary. It's not scary to me at this time, only creepy. But there are circumstances under which it could be scary (or maybe intimidating would be a better word) to me and to others. Vigilant, you can be scary. Should I leave WPO?
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Oblia wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Oblia wrote:
Zoloft wrote:No matter whose 'side' someone is on, making fun of their appearance is unkind.
Let's try not to do that, please.
I can't speak for others but want to make my own point clear. This isn't about someone's appearance. It's about someone who's in a position to help or hurt others telling them that he likes to do so while naked. It's creepy, even scary to some.
Scary?!
You delicate little flower. Turn off your computer and go outside.
Yes, scary. It's not scary to me at this time, only creepy. But there are circumstances under which it could be scary (or maybe intimidating would be a better word) to me and to others. Vigilant, you can be scary. Should I leave WPO?
I'm saying that if imagining a fetid basement dweller naked due to an infobox on his wikipedia homepage actually scares you then you should turn off your computer and go outside. The internet is not for you.
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Vigilant wrote:I'm saying that if imagining a fetid basement dweller naked due to an infobox on his wikipedia homepage actually scares you then you should turn off your computer and go outside. The internet is not for you.
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Anthonyhcole wrote:
Vigilant wrote:I'm saying that if imagining a fetid basement dweller naked due to an infobox on his wikipedia homepage actually scares you then you should turn off your computer and go outside. The internet is not for you.
User box. You mean user box.

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Anthonyhcole wrote:
Vigilant wrote:I'm saying that if imagining a fetid basement dweller naked due to an infobox on his wikipedia homepage actually scares you then you should turn off your computer and go outside. The internet is not for you.
User box. You mean user box.
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Michaeldsuarez wrote:Why are Wikipedians electing people who are utterly incapable of letting bygones be bygones to a conflict resolution body?
Doesn't that conflict resolution body hand out lifetime bans? How would that work if it were composed of people prepared to let bygones be bygones?
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Poetlister wrote:
Michaeldsuarez wrote:Why are Wikipedians electing people who are utterly incapable of letting bygones be bygones to a conflict resolution body?
Doesn't that conflict resolution body hand out lifetime bans? How would that work if it were composed of people prepared to let bygones be bygones?
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Oblia wrote:I can't speak for others but want to make my own point clear.
Yes, I've noticed that about you. I find it quite endearing.

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Unread post by slacker » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:03 pm

Michaeldsuarez wrote:Why are Wikipedians electing people who are utterly incapable of letting bygones be bygones to a conflict resolution body?
Admiration? A desire to see their worst flaws reflected in the highest body? Eric often brings up the fact he was once blocked for calling people sycophants as a way to fight back against admin/s. This happened so long ago it often totally confuses admins who are attempting to separate him from whoever he's fighting with, since they were often not even a user on Wikipedia at the time, let alone an admin, and he never ever gives context for these cryptic breakouts of snark. Rather than telling him to knock it off, his admin supporters gleefully cheer him on, while of course berating everyone else who doesn't like Eric, for the crime of never letting things go. Like the number of times he's been blocked in 2015.

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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Kumioko » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:16 pm

slacker wrote:
Michaeldsuarez wrote:Why are Wikipedians electing people who are utterly incapable of letting bygones be bygones to a conflict resolution body?
Admiration? A desire to see their worst flaws reflected in the highest body? Eric often brings up the fact he was once blocked for calling people sycophants as a way to fight back against admin/s. This happened so long ago it often totally confuses admins who are attempting to separate him from whoever he's fighting with, since they were often not even a user on Wikipedia at the time, let alone an admin, and he never ever gives context for these cryptic breakouts of snark. Rather than telling him to knock it off, his admin supporters gleefully cheer him on, while of course berating everyone else who doesn't like Eric, for the crime of never letting things go. Like the number of times he's been blocked in 2015.
Here is the problem I have. People like to rail on Eric for his swearing but no one seems to care about insults from admins like Floquenbeam; suggestions to out people to their employer from AGK and NewYorkBrad; Utter incomptence from admins like Chillum/HighinBC and AGK and problematic editors with very long histories of abuse like BeyondMyKen. So as long as the community and admn corps continue to ignore problems like those, or even reward that conduct, then they amount to nothing more than a bunch of hypocrits and deserve what they get.

It really is unfortunate though, because in the end the project suffers by the community and the admins incompetence and flagrant abuse of the rules and that to me is the biggest shame in all of this.

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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:48 pm

Kumioko wrote: Here is the problem I have. People like to rail on Eric for his swearing but no one seems to care about
  • insults from admins like Floquenbeam;
    suggestions to out people to their employer from AGK and NewYorkBrad;
    Utter incompetence from admins like Chillum/HighinBC and AGK and
    problematic editors with very long histories of abuse like BeyondMyKen.
I care.
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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by thekohser » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:21 pm

Newyorkbrad wrote:
thekohser wrote:You're degrading our stock and trade.
That's "stock in trade."
You got me! Thanks.

Although...

The book, The International Conference Education and Creativity for a Knowledge based Society, discusses how French law no 11/1991 and the law of 17th March 1909 both extensively discuss "stock-and-trade". It's in the section by Smaranda Angheni, PhD. - Titu Maiorescu University.

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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by thekohser » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:23 pm

Oblia wrote:Should I leave WPO?
That would be my vote, but I'm just expressing my opinion.
"...making nonsensical connections and culminating in feigned surprise, since 2006..."

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Re: Thryduulf runs for Arbcom 2015 --- elected to 1 year in

Unread post by Oblia » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:38 pm

thekohser wrote:
Oblia wrote:Should I leave WPO?
That would be my vote, but I'm just expressing my opinion.
I'm considering my options.

Frankly, though, Wikipedia has Wikipediocracy and now, maybe, a forum is necessary to "shine a light of scrutiny" into your "dark crevices." You seem to be every bit as bad as the Jimmy Wales that lives in your head.
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