Quite right. It's a major problem. Besides monitoring every website on the planet, the WMF needs to start snooping on user emails for evidence of canvassing and other nefarious schemes.
I have a number of concerns with people using other websites to discuss Wikipedia. For one thing, it increases the chance of conspiracy when we can't monitor all the ways in which users are interacting. It intensifies the potential for cliques. Users create off-website drama that bleeds over to Wikipedia, as evidenced in this case.
IronMaidenRocks (T-C-L), 15:01, 8 December 2021
Happily for the WMF, UCoC apparently gives them free rein to sanction any user who discusses Wikipedia offwiki.
Andreas Kolbe wrote: [Wikimedia-l]
Re: Closing the comment period for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Draft Guidelines and next step
27 Nov 2021
There are various unanswered queries on the UCoC talk pages.[1][2] I wonder
if you or someone else involved in drafting the UCoC could comment.
Several of these queries concern the wording of the Harassment section, in
particular the "Disclosure of personal data (Doxing)" subsection included
therein.[3] This subsection currently reads as follows (my emphasis):
1. As written, this literally means that Wikimedians will not be allowed toDisclosure of personal data (Doxing): sharing other contributors' private
information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address
without their explicit consent either on the Wikimedia projects or
elsewhere, *or sharing information concerning their Wikimedia activity
outside the projects*.
share "information concerning [other contributors'] Wikimedia activity
outside the projects". While this may not be the intended meaning, it is
the literal meaning – and reminiscent of Fight Club: "The first rule of
Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club."
Could you comment? Do you really mean to say that contributors are not
allowed to communicate with any outside person about what happens on the
projects?
How would this affect bloggers like the following:
https://genderdesk.wordpress.com/
https://thewikipedian.net/
https://wikipediocracy.com/2021/11/22/w ... tolen-art/
Or is this a case of the wording having gone awry?
2. The subsection mentions "place of employment". There are pages on
Wikipedia, in project space and article space, that discuss contributors'
place of employment. Examples are:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Congressional_staffer_edits
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangemoody_editing_of_Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki-PR_editing_of_Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology_editing_on_Wikipedia
Wikipedia editors and arbitrators have in the past commented on such cases
to the media. Will this be forbidden under the new Universal Code of
Conduct rules?
3. What about cases like the ones listed below? From the perspective of the
UCoC, were any of the protagonists in these cases ("David r from Meth
Productions", "Wifione", "Qworty") victims of harassment as a
result of their activities being discussed on-wiki or elsewhere?
newstatesman.com/politics/2011/09/hari-rose-wikipedia-admitted
salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/
newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogus-business-school
4. Another contributor has asked on the talk pages whether, according to
the terms of the UCoC, they will be deemed guilty of harassment in the
Wikimediaverse if they sue another contributor for libel and discuss their
complaint in court. Another worries about contributors' ability to report
child protection issues to the authorities.
Indeed, the WMF itself has at times alerted the authorities to suspicious
activities on its sites and shared contributors' personal details (I recall
a case where it appeared from postings on Wikipedia that a troubled
teenager was contemplating a school shooting). Is the Universal Code of
Conduct intended to put an end to such reports?
I would be grateful for a clarification of the impact the Universal Code of
Conduct is intended to have on the above issues.