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Under Office action policy, Fram has been banned by the Wikimedia Foundation from editing the English Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Please address any questions to caAt sign.pngwikimedia.org.

Mason wrote:The cynic in me wonders if the WMF is about to roll out a particularly shitty version of Flow or Visual Editor and doesn't want to hear the caustic point-by-point critiques of the functionality Fram is well known for offering.

And only 1 year... I don't think I've seen a time-limited SanFranBan before; has anyone else?

Iridescent wrote:In the absence of any explanation, the cynic in me guesses that at some point in the next 12 months the WMF are going to reattempt to introduce the forced integration of either Wikidata, VisualEditor or Superprotect, and are trying to pre-emptively nobble the most vocal critic of forced changes to the interface. ‑ Iridescent 19:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Jan Eissfeldt
Lead Manager of Trust and Safety (Contractor), Trust and Safety

About me
Moin, I'm Jan. In my volunteer capacity, you can find me as Jan eissfeldt. I started contributing to Wikipedia - first and foremost to its German language version - in March 2004 and tend to edit topics related to philosophy of language, logics, macroeconomics, and philosophy of science in English, German or Spanish. However, you may also encounter me working on articles concerning philosophical aspects of the differences between common and civil law; an issue heavily interacting with my preferred academic pet: argumentation theory.

Auggie wrote:haha active user since 2005 and flip a switch and gone. Thrown out like a bag of moldy tangerines.

Randy from Boise wrote:

Auggie wrote:haha active user since 2005 and flip a switch and gone. Thrown out like a bag of moldy tangerines.

The encyclopedia is more or less built; now it's a matter of routine maintenance and cashing $100M of checks a year...

RfB

Auggie wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

Auggie wrote:haha active user since 2005 and flip a switch and gone. Thrown out like a bag of moldy tangerines.

The encyclopedia is more or less built; now it's a matter of routine maintenance and cashing $100M of checks a year...

RfB

Maybe you're right. They don't need the help anymore.

Can someone give me the tl;dr version of the Fram story?

Anroth wrote: There isnt one yet. Fram not talking and only the global stewards know. And neither are they.

It is odd to enact a local wiki T&S ban with a *time limit*.

Anroth wrote:

Auggie wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

Auggie wrote:haha active user since 2005 and flip a switch and gone. Thrown out like a bag of moldy tangerines.

The encyclopedia is more or less built; now it's a matter of routine maintenance and cashing $100M of checks a year...

RfB

Maybe you're right. They don't need the help anymore.

Can someone give me the tl;dr version of the Fram story?

There isnt one yet. Fram not talking and only the global stewards know. And neither are they.

It is odd to enact a local wiki T&S ban with a *time limit*.

Mumbly mouth breathers wrote:Statement from the WMF Trust & Safety Team

Dear members of the English Wikipedia community,

We have been approached by several volunteers with questions concerning the recent Office Action, the time-limited partial Foundation ban of User:Fram covering your project. As we saw similar questions also being asked in your discussions around the project, including here, we thought it is most accessible to interested community members to provide clarifications publicly here:

What made the Foundation take action at all and why at this specific time?

As described on the Metapage about Office actions, we investigate the need for an office action either upon receipt of complaints from the community, or as required by law. In this case we acted on complaints from the community.

All office actions are only taken after a thorough investigation, and extensive review by staff. This process usually takes about four weeks.
Office actions are covering individuals and not just individual user accounts. Therefore, the measure covers more than one user account in this case.

Who made the complaint to the Foundation?

The Foundation always aims to be as transparent as possible with office actions. However, as outlined in the general information section of the office actions page, we also prioritize the safety of involved parties and legal compliance. Therefore, we do not disclose who submitted community complaints.
Why did the Foundation only ban for a year?

As part of the Improving Trust and Safety processes program, less intrusive office actions were introduced. Those options include time-limited and partial (project-specific) bans to address serious concerns that are, however, temporary or project-specific in nature. For example, if a user has been problematic on one project in particular while contributing without concerns to another community wiki, this can now be addressed in a more targeted way than a full Foundation global ban.

Why did the Foundation de-sysop? Does this mean that Fram will not be an administrator when his ban ends in 2020?

The removal of administrator access is intended as enforcement of the temporary partial Foundation ban placed on Fram. It is the community’s decision what to do with Fram’s administrator access upon the expiration of the Office Action ban.

What kind of appeal is possible against this office action?

As a this time-limited Foundation ban is an outcome of a regular office action investigation, it is governed by the same rules already familiar from Foundation global bans: it does not offer an opportunity to appeal.

As the team carrying out office action investigations, Trust and Safety starts cases from the position that it is up to volunteers to decide for themselves how they spend their free time within the frame of the Terms of Use and the local community’s rules provided for in section 10 of them. The Terms of Use do not distinguish whether a user participates by creating and curating content, building tools and gadgets for peers doing so, helping out as a functionary handling admin, checkuser or oversight tools or in other forms. However, on occasion community members submit evidence strongly indicating cases where local communities consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but the Terms of Use, too. We will continue to consider these rare cases brought to our attention under the framework of the office actions policy. Best regards, WMFOffice (talk) 20:58, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

el84 wrote:On Commons, Rama complained about Fram wikistalking him about four weeks ago...

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Comm ... i_stalking

It was archived without anything being done about it, it seems.

Anroth wrote:-edit- Actually Wikipediocracy's fave drama llama just jumped to the top of my list.

Mason wrote:I guess the only way we'll find out if the WMF banned Fram over that pointless argument with Fae is if Fram or Fae tells us.

on occasion community members submit evidence strongly indicating cases where local communities consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but the Terms of Use, too. We will continue to consider these rare cases brought to our attention under the framework of the office actions policy.

No Ledge wrote:

on occasion community members submit evidence strongly indicating cases where local communities consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but the Terms of Use, too. We will continue to consider these rare cases brought to our attention under the framework of the office actions policy.

That's the key takeaway from their verbose statement.

And if a discussion at Wikipedia talk:No personal attacks titled Harassment, mocking or otherwise disrespecting someone on the basis of gender identification and pronoun preference that was hatted a month ago with This discussion has generated a lot of heat and almost no light and there is almost no prospect of that changing. isn't the specific incident, well, it will be another incident like that.

So we finally see that they are doing something. I expect that they will pick offenders off one at a time until either the community gets the message, or the balance of power tips such that the minority of editors favoring enforcement of the civility policy becomes a majority.

Disclaimer, I haven't even read the hatted discussion yet, but maybe I will take a look now, if I can stomach it.

Auggie wrote:

No Ledge wrote:

on occasion community members submit evidence strongly indicating cases where local communities consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but the Terms of Use, too. We will continue to consider these rare cases brought to our attention under the framework of the office actions policy.

That's the key takeaway from their verbose statement.

And if a discussion at Wikipedia talk:No personal attacks titled Harassment, mocking or otherwise disrespecting someone on the basis of gender identification and pronoun preference that was hatted a month ago with This discussion has generated a lot of heat and almost no light and there is almost no prospect of that changing. isn't the specific incident, well, it will be another incident like that.

So we finally see that they are doing something. I expect that they will pick offenders off one at a time until either the community gets the message, or the balance of power tips such that the minority of editors favoring enforcement of the civility policy becomes a majority.

Disclaimer, I haven't even read the hatted discussion yet, but maybe I will take a look now, if I can stomach it.

Wow.

Fram is incredibly stupid.

He types out the n-word to make a point about gender pronouns.

Probably the peabrains at WMF realized they can't have administrators flinging around racial slurs to win dumb arguments.

Ansh666 wrote:
I mean, it's not like he called someone that. He was using it to illustrate a false equivalence. Perhaps not the best idea to type it out in full, but still, it's not worthy of a 1-year ban.

Beeblebrox wrote:I gotta be honest, neither fo them are my favorite people, but I'd rather have 50 Frams than one Fae.

Vigilant wrote:Someone hasn't been seen since June 6th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:C ... ns/F%C3%A6

Just like Ashley to run and hide when the shit hits the fan...

As far as I know this block has nothing to do with anything Fram wrote to me, and it would be jaw droppingly astonishing if this action had anything to do with the campaign of transphobic abuse and death threats I have been targeted with recently.

Randy from Boise wrote: I can't even imagine a world with fifty Frams.

tim

I shall be inactive on ArbCom until this matter is resolved one way or another. There is frustratingly little information at the moment ...