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- Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:11 pm
- Forum: Jimboland
- Topic: Jimmy Wales lies about Wikipedia whistleblowers
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1840
Re: Jimmy Wales lies about Wikipedia whistleblowers
Could somebody please provide some evidences to prove that there are Wikipedia whistleblowers who are/were treated badly? Lol. My posts about Cwmhiraeth . The standard on en.Wikipedia is to shoot the messenger. Colonel Henry knew exactly how welcome his threats to me were. And Cwmhiraeth continues ...
- Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:47 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Crap articles
- Replies: 4422
- Views: 822888
Re: Crap articles
Colfax Avenue I lost track of why I went there as I slogged through the opening paragraph then came upon this pair of gem sentences (so, I have to post in crap articles, even though I can't bring myself to read the article, because it is two sentences, not, therefore, one of Wikipedia's worst). "Pl...
- Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:33 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Boing calls it quits
- Replies: 24
- Views: 1340
Re: Boing calls it quits
Welcome Boing!
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:12 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
I'm sure the contributors at the Encyclopedia Britannica frequently called each other cunts during the construction of the encyclopedia, it's an important part of the process. In all seriousness, isn't the point of the whole civility thing just an attempt for editors to treat each other as they wou...
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:10 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
However, like on en.Wikipedia, when it's the admins throwing the word around, who knows. I would say that at minimum, to trigger a warning or suspension the word has to be directed at one or more individuals, or possibly groups thereof if you wanted to be strict about it. Mr. Zoloft wasn't directin...
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:13 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
But it often is more than "just using an offensive word to insult someone." That is my point. It is an offensive word also used to demean women as a whole. "Shithead" and "douchebag" aren't used prejudicially against people of a certain gender, race, religion or other often minority status. If you ...
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:09 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
For stating the obvious? Always.iii wrote:Are you trying to flatter me?enwikibadscience wrote:That is missed a lot. And pointing it out qualifies you as a militant feminist, if not more.iii wrote:.... You also missed that the pejorative adjective employed is needlessly and, I would say, inflammatorily sexist. ....
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:08 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
.... If he did it consciously to get PC minds aflutter, it would have been a troll — but a poorly conceived one. But, per usual, this is just a case of obnoxious thoughtlessness, which seems to be a particular specialty of Eric's... .... RfB You could be right. This is much of the problem with call...
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:06 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
Yes, but everyone keeps saying Eric is being provoked to troll. No. He's trolling because he wants to, like all trolls.Vigilant wrote:....
It's trolling in the original and purest sense of the word.
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- Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:43 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
That is missed a lot. And pointing it out qualifies you as a militant feminist, if not more.iii wrote:.... You also missed that the pejorative adjective employed is needlessly and, I would say, inflammatorily sexist. ....
- Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:35 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Bring on the clowns. Again.
- Replies: 80
- Views: 3139
Re: Bring on the clowns. Again.
BWilkins and I have often disagreed, and he likely has blocked me (or at least supported blocks) in the past. Yet, here again, BWilkins / DangerousPanda displayed admirable backbone, humility (in presenting the ANI consensus rather than his ego), and calmness. Perhaps those who objected to my endor...
- Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:30 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Floquenbeam has resigned from the Arbcom
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1738
Re: Floquenbeam has resigned from the Arbcom
You read it?Vigilant wrote:
Also, I'm not sure why Risker has her tongue buried to the small intestine in the WMF's ass, but she's offered a load of useless tripe as evidence that should get trimmed out by a clerk.
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:52 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: In which WeijiBaikeBianji reports me at AE
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2742
Re: In which WeijiBaikeBianji reports me at AE
The background here is that for around a year, newbies who generally don't know what they're doing have been showing up in the race and intelligence topic, and I've somehow acquired a reputation as someone who can give them valuable advice. In some cases I can't figure out how these people know any...
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:52 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: In which WeijiBaikeBianji reports me at AE
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2742
Re: In which WeijiBaikeBianji reports me at AE
The background here is that for around a year, newbies who generally don't know what they're doing have been showing up in the race and intelligence topic, and I've somehow acquired a reputation as someone who can give them valuable advice. In some cases I can't figure out how these people know any...
- Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:00 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
- Replies: 49
- Views: 1778
Re: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
Except it's not drivel. You also need to work on your comprehension skills, or else stick to reading things written in words of one syllable. Me, too, then. Because it is without meaning. Tell me when you've retrained as a programmer. Until then, I'll write off biology stuff that I don't understand...
- Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:13 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
- Replies: 49
- Views: 1778
Re: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
The point is that while all the words are reasonably common and everyday, they are being used as part of a management consultancy piece of drivel, often with a slightly different meaning from the one that I (and probably most people here) would think they had. Except it's not drivel. You also need ...
- Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:11 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
- Replies: 49
- Views: 1778
Re: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
Anyone that can't write in a plain natural language and instead resort to a string meaningless bullshit phrases doesn't understand what they are doing. I think you need to upgrade your vocabulary, because that was all pretty basic stuff. The point is that while all the words are reasonably common a...
- Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:54 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
- Replies: 49
- Views: 1778
Re: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
To some extent this may seem quite reasonable and even intuitive, but the reality is that in most product-development efforts, nobody sets any priorities at all, everyone takes on a task that they personally want (which could take anywhere from a few hours to several years), and there's all sorts o...
- Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:52 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
- Replies: 49
- Views: 1778
Re: WMF adds a new layer of management — huzzah!
defines "a flexible, holistic product development strategy where a development team works as a unit to reach a common goal", challenges assumptions of the " traditional, sequential approach " to product development, and enables teams to self-organize by encouraging physical co-location or close onl...
- Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:04 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: How pranks, hoaxes & manip. undermine the reliability of WP
- Replies: 67
- Views: 38112
Re: How pranks, hoaxes & manip. undermine the reliability of
This is Wikipedia in a nutshell: genuine research mixed with completely unreliable information in such a way that looking at any Wikipedia article the reader never knows what is correct and what is made up. It’s the fabled wisdom of the crowds! This is Cwmhiraeth in a nutshell. Most medical article...
- Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:42 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Doctor Wikipedia
- Replies: 488
- Views: 35135
Re: Doctor Wikipedia
This is actually quite juicy. Lilly and Pfizer, two of the biggest (and sleaziest) drug manufacturers, have been up to no good on Wikipedia since its early days. And I don't see any Wikipedians, much less Heilman and his gang of monkeys, doing anything about it in an organized way--or even talking ...
- Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:39 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: How pranks, hoaxes & manip. undermine the reliability of WP
- Replies: 67
- Views: 38112
Re: How pranks, hoaxes & manip. undermine the reliability of
This is Wikipedia in a nutshell: genuine research mixed with completely unreliable information in such a way that looking at any Wikipedia article the reader never knows what is correct and what is made up. It’s the fabled wisdom of the crowds! This is Cwmhiraeth in a nutshell. Most medical article...
- Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:30 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: How pranks, hoaxes & manip. undermine the reliability of WP
- Replies: 67
- Views: 38112
Re: How pranks, hoaxes & manip. undermine the reliability of
lilburne wrote:I think you mean "Wikipedia errors tend to be protected by ignorant schmucks."Ming wrote:Wikipedia errors tend to be protected by a lack of scrutiny and skepticism.
+1
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:30 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
- Replies: 147
- Views: 6692
Re: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
Sorry it took this user so/too long to understand it... :bow: Though the use of the first person seemed overwhelming at first sight, reaching 39 appeared impossible until a few minutes ago, after counting the possessive and other related 1st person words... Sorry to bother (or be boring you) again ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:37 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
- Replies: 147
- Views: 6692
Re: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
+1Capsot wrote: See you and have a great weekend,
Claudi/Capsot
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:43 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
- Replies: 147
- Views: 6692
Re: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
Hi, If "39" was the numbers of mistakes I made (which is worse than I would have thought), could you please tell me (at least some of them) so I can improve my command. Thank you! Have a nice day! Claudi/Capsot PS: Mmm, could it be the lack of commas... sorry about that, shouldn't try to write whil...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:42 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
- Replies: 147
- Views: 6692
Re: How many members here are actually banned from WP?
When someone at Wikipedia writes about "all of those banned users at Wikipediocracy" they're not interested in the truth of that statement. They're interested in dismissing all criticism as motivated by pettiness and revenge-seeking among children who were so naughty they had be BANNINATED! I belie...
- Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:48 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: For This Author, 10,000 WP Articles Is a Good Day's Work
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1095
Re: For This Author, 10,000 WP Articles Is a Good Day's Work
So much press! Johansson works as an administrator, and has degrees in linguistics, civil engineering, economics and particle physics, The Verge reported. He covers a wide range of articles on various topics such as bugs, beetles, and butterflies, and is reportedly particularly proud of his work hi...
- Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:11 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Tony's now lumping anyone who disagrees with him into the evil Wikipediocracy conspiracy . Oookay then. Cullen328 responds admirably . Don't template the regulars, because they can dish it out, but they can't take it. Tony1 hindered access for hearing impaired users. Whatever he bloviates in disagr...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:52 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Nice to see the editor retention police hard at work
- Replies: 92
- Views: 3936
Re: Nice to see the editor retention police hard at work
A clumsy attempt to close the loop. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=616239603#I_would_like_to_report_user:daniellagreen_for_doing_paid_editing_with_nondisclosure_to_wikipedia_as_is_the_current_policy. The next one won't be so bald. I...
- Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:05 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Look who’s visiting the WMF
- Replies: 10
- Views: 914
Re: Look who’s visiting the WMF
In 2012, they doled out just about $2.2 million, but across more than 1,250 recipients . I'm seriously talking about $25 checks disbursed to things like United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, The Petco Foundation, Seniors First, and Freedom Alliance. Is it possible that this is an employee-d...
- Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:03 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Look who’s visiting the WMF
- Replies: 10
- Views: 914
Re: Look who’s visiting the WMF
The CNA Financial article got me to snooping a bit more. Wikipedia has this completely unsourced information: CNA Foundation The CNA Foundation contributes millions of dollars to community development via funding programs and civic involvement. The primary focuses are: * Meeting the educational nee...
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:42 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Is there a barnstar for that?Vigilant wrote:
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P.P.S. You've managed to make everyone else on the signpost talk page look mature and eminent by comparison. Good job.
....
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:22 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Doctor Wikipedia
- Replies: 488
- Views: 35135
Re: Doctor Wikipedia
From WikiProject Pamphlets or some such.Expect a future in which all health information Wikipedia [sic] is the most accurate available in every language and backed by medical consensus of every authority.
I don't.
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:19 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Can we have a special snowflake smiley?
(And can a mod make this smaller?)
(And can a mod make this smaller?)
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:07 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Good point.Anroth wrote:
....
I disagree. Tony clearly had a discussion (or so he says) with the signpost editorial staff about his expections for his
Frankly I am more annoyed at the editor in chief for even making a backroom deal like that with Tony in the first place.
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:45 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
It doesn't help much to look back and fault people, but I'll do so enough to remark that if Tony1's position had been treated with respect and constructiveness from the beginning, the situation never would've turned into this horrible angry mess in which I really believe he and others are acting in...
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:36 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Yes, in all ways. Cannot be said enough.Kelly Martin wrote:Wikipedia is absolutely terrible at conflict management.
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:37 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Neotarf, you mentioned above having discussed this matter by e-mail, and have said on Wikipedia that some of the e-mails you received were abusive. Who are you alleging sent you abusive e-mails? From his block log Tony1 may have done this before, although quite some time ago, abused email privilege...
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:31 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
I find it fascinating that this affair has brought a number of Deaf and hearing-impaired editors to identify themselves as such. I can understand that perhaps they chose not to do so until now because it didn't seem necessary in a text-based environment; but as soon as audio media became prominentl...
- Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:47 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
The upshot of all this is probably that a template will be created to place on top of all temporarily-audio-only Signpost interviews, asking users to please not post their own transcripts prior to a certain date without advance permission. Or they could make a template asking editors who are Specia...
- Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:34 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
The upshot of all this is probably that a template will be created to place on top of all temporarily-audio-only Signpost interviews, asking users to please not post their own transcripts prior to a certain date without advance permission. Or they could make a template asking editors who are Specia...
- Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:54 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Arrogance and smugness on WP
- Replies: 2
- Views: 311
Re: Arrogance and smugness on WP
Of the many things that gets in the way of congenial discourse and administrative competence in WP is the anti-social attitudes of many established WP participants. Because most, if not all, of we WPO members actually are able to have thriving and productive relationships in our workplaces, we unde...
- Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:51 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
The exact details are murky, but no one is denying that there was an agreement with Tony to the effect that the SP staff would not publish a transcript for at least a couple of days. But the transcript was not produced by the staff, it was produced spontaneously by the community. At that point it b...
- Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:28 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
How is it disenfranchising readers with special needs if the transcript is posted a week later? :picard: Tony said at the beginning of the discussion that the Signpost would be happy to make a transcript available to the hearing impaired. Of course this imposes an additional burden on the hearing-i...
- Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:19 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
lolHex wrote:Posting this seemed more practical.Poetlister wrote: Why don't you post that under his comment? He'd be more likely to see it there.
- Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:53 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
How is it disenfranchising readers with special needs if the transcript is posted a week later? :picard: Tony said at the beginning of the discussion that the Signpost would be happy to make a transcript available to the hearing impaired. Of course this imposes an additional burden on the hearing-i...
- Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:49 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
The alternative is, to borrow a phrase from Vigilant, to "put on his big boy pants" and admit that he made a mistake. Namely, not thinking it through in advance sufficiently to realize that his special deal would disenfranchise readers with special needs. And after that to allow the transcript link...
- Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:49 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Tony is a good journalist. No, he really isn't. He's not bad. He's an improvement on most of the writers in the same stable. But if he were any good, he'd be doing it in his real job in the real world. This tendency for Wikimedians to equate "does a lot of work for us" with "good" shits me to tears...
- Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:47 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
- Replies: 177
- Views: 5084
Re: Tony1 resigns from Signpost over disagreement with Arb
Tony is a good journalist. No, he really isn't. He's not bad. He's an improvement on most of the writers in the same stable. But if he were any good, he'd be doing it in his real job in the real world. This tendency for Wikimedians to equate "does a lot of work for us" with "good" shits me to tears...