Wikipediocracy

adamovicm

Most of the rules could be thrown out and replaced with the following: 1. Content: summarize and cite scholarly sources. 2. Style: be clear and concise. 3. Behavioral: comment on the contribution, not the contributor. Hahaha, if there is a single policy instead of dozens of them, it would be much e...

adamovicm

From my limited experience, these problems seem big:

NPOV (which is labeled as a 'core policy') is not enforced at all, or barely enforced
policies can be misinterpreted and enforced differently from what is their possible interpretation

adamovicm

greyed.out.fields wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 11:19 am
Imcdc (T-C-L)

Edits/create other investment / funds-related articles, even Chinese state-owned, so I wouldn't say it is obviously a paid editor. It could be someone from the industry adding/updating articles about companies and funds.

adamovicm

I was pointing out that, at least in that small timeframe, that only half of the accepted major contributions were from 'regular' users (all regulars also edited on obscure, non-controversial topics). My point was that maybe those Wikipedians who contributed only a few changes (the majority of User...

adamovicm

As to Adamovicm, as you run a website that is also crowdsourced, is there a power-law distribution among Numbeo contributors? Not at all, most contributors are one-time contributors. Most visitors are one-time visitors, who visit the website once in their lifetime when they are considering relocati...

adamovicm

Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:30 pm
Maybe don't give people advice about something you know very little about? Especially if you haven't even taken the time to understand the issue?

I have made a mistake. I'm sorry about it

adamovicm

The vast majority content contributed to Wikipedia is done by a very small minority of its registered users. But it could happen that the other 20% of content that has been written by other 80% of users improves significantly content written by that small minority of its registered users. I.e. as s...

adamovicm

Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:42 pm
The procedures of English Wikipedia don't apply to other language Wikipedias. Think of each one an online community with its own unique culture.

Oh, indeed, the original links were in French. I haven't opened it, as I'm not the admin, so I cannot block anyone on Wikipedia

adamovicm

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:02 pm
It's almost as if crypto is a scam...

Isn't it? My friend who mined it more than a decade ago calls it "the biggest pyramidal scheme in history". I could only agree.

adamovicm

TLTR: he thinks it's sockpuppet editing the articles in a non NPOV way that has been already blocked in some other languages. Actually, for our new user, have you looked into: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution ? there you can find a normal protocol to address problems with t...

adamovicm

the truth is that due to my autism it has always been very difficult for me to understand human behavior, in addition to the fact that a long time ago I plunged into a great depression, ... Hi Seb, welcome. No worries about autism, many intelligent people are autistic. Probably me as well, although...

adamovicm

I must give a fair warning here as someone who was occasionally immersed in the "true crimes" community before getting into the Wikipedia rabbit hole, that if these practices stays in trajectory, it will one day ignites some kind of mass tragedies which I won't further elaborate on here for fear of...

adamovicm

List_of_music_students_by_teacher:_K_to_M Just one of a series of uninspiring articles. Many of those lists are quite useless. I cannot find now but Wikipedia used to have something like List of companies traded on Hong Kong Stock Exchange. It turned out that it didn't contain a company that was li...

adamovicm

Dealing with the stream of poorly-written self-promotion and pop culture trivia can get depressing. It's everywhere where admins have to deal with user-generated content. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/12/21255870/facebook-content-moderator-settlement-scola-ptsd-mental-health Before AI was working...

adamovicm

When I was sixteen, a dial up BBS was considered pretty amazing new technology. Unless you were to ask my sisters, who found it annoying that I kept tying up the one phone line we had. Off-topic, but... I even had a BBS in my home for a certain period of time, it was called "Banjaluka BBS" working ...

adamovicm

In UseNetese, “on Wiki it is always September.” Guys, I've been on the Internet since 1993 or so, actually used Usenet back in the days, but never heard about this so far. "Back in the glory days of Usenet, this was called “the September problem”; most participants were at universities, so every au...

adamovicm

Boing! mentioned in another thread that he thinks the biggest nowadays problem with Wikipedia is hostility toward new editors. I have searched the history of this forum, and I have seen that Jake thought that random hostility is quite rare. What does it actually mean? Others, your thoughts and sugge...

adamovicm

In general answer to your question: there are not that many solid content-writers who get banned off. They/we tend not to get involved in huge controversies or to play Wikipedia like a war game. Definitely, looks that way. Any long-term solid content-writer who got blocked and banned seems of engag...

adamovicm

Is it you? 100% no. Also, I had a very low number of contributions in the past 15 years or so. Some of the definitely useful contributions were that I have added/updated information about taxation in Serbia and updated the article about one historical figure (who was posthumously rehabilitated more...

adamovicm

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:13 pm
Selective enforcement

Could you elaborate with some details?

adamovicm

Great reference... Yeah, if the interview with myself gets aired, there is a much higher likelihood it will become a popular Reddit meme than anything else. But still, as you have all noticed, who are following me here, I'm in a show business, and there is no business like show business My people s...

adamovicm

Cool! Try to avoid that Jim Cramer guy though — he's a bit of a nutcase. The guy is famous for The Inverse Cramer ETF on Reddit. In Serbian finance Reddit, we have the moderator BasLedeni who, whenever he buys $VWCE ETF, the price drops, and I made quite a few jokes about him and Jim Cramer. Recent...

adamovicm

What do you think are the biggest problems with the current Wikipedia Policies?

I have searched the topic on Google and this forum and haven't found the answer.

adamovicm

Question in the subject, what are their Usernames, why do you think they were doing a great work, why they end up being blocked or banned. An appropriate citation (author: Ross McPherson from comment: https://wikipediocracy.com/2015/08/16/a-compendium-of-wikipedia-criticism/ Ross can be contacted at...

adamovicm

There should be an official way for company owners and employees to interact with the article about their company and the volunteer editors on en.wp. There is even more. Infrequently, in many companies, insiders (i.e. founder) of the company is at the same time expert in that field (knowledge about...

adamovicm

Beeblebrox wrote: ↑
Wed May 31, 2023 6:10 pm
It's a real taste of what we deal with on WP when someone just won't shut up and listen to anyone, and insists on making everything about themselves.

What about this: should individuals and companies be allowed to open content disputes about themselves?

adamovicm

Bezdomni wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:18 am
(Again, for the record, Piotrus wrote he wasn't "seeing this particular law mentioned in the cited source" in his edit summary)

And are you telling us that guy still edits the Wikipedia? Or should I come to emphasize it to perhaps irritate someone?

adamovicm

He's approached Wikipedia on the assumption that it is run by decent people who act decently who will appreciate that he's just trying to fix a few mistakes in the article on his company and has been blocked. He's approached his being blocked with the idea that it must be fixable but it is here enc...

adamovicm

But I don’t offer such advice any more, because in my observation, virtually everyone who’s followed that advice has been successful in getting unblocked, but later reblocked indefinitely after further aggravating people. Yeah, I can see that people tend to behave in certain patterns. While they mi...

adamovicm

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:07 am
Do you understand that sometimes even though something isn't 'policy' that it is, in fact, the way things work?

I understand.

adamovicm

* You were seen to contribute here. WP:BADSITES * You don't seem to take on board what people are saying when they tell you what you're doing wrong. WP:NOTHERE/WP:COMP WP:BADSITES is not actually a policy, WP:NLT I haven't understood on how it is actually enforced at the time of the blocking. While...

adamovicm

Only the latter account is CU-blocked, whereas the OP's block is a standard indef with the only stated socking accusation being logged-out editing. That logged-out editing I made before was really a bad idea. I wanted to play the games with people who ran a very negative article. Instead of discuss...

adamovicm

Vigilant, I guess your post means we don't know why he blocked you, is that justified or not justified, we don't want to dig deeper into that, there are numerous examples in the past of similar situations? Just correct me if I was wrong? In plain English, that even I can understand. Few sentences, s...

adamovicm

I can see it on front page of all the tabloids ... « Man Ignored On Online Forum » What I found amazing is the amount of hostility here. The guy asks a specific question about Wikipedia policies and himself, and then gets hammered here. Boing! said Zebedee was nice to me, explained to me nicely, th...

adamovicm

I don't care who you've asked. I just want you to stop asking here. We can't help you. Asking about the admin action that might or might not be justified seems of being an appropriate topic in Wikipedia Critics forum to me if there is no better forum for that kind of stuff. If the admin thinks it i...

adamovicm

Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Wed May 31, 2023 4:58 pm
I await the inevitable locking of this thread and the banning of adamovicm, who doesn't seem to understand that we aren't Wikipedia's help desk.

How do you know that I haven't asked the Wikipedia help desk about this one?

adamovicm

Probably because, as noted, you seem to have no interest in doing anything other than editing the Numbeo article and wasting other editors' time. Neither of those is something you should be doing on Wikipedia right now, hence the indef block. You are wasting our time here, dude. I have edited other...

adamovicm

eppur si muove wrote: ↑
Wed May 31, 2023 2:37 pm
Who is this "you"? As far as I recall, Midsize Jake, on whose post you commented, doesn't edit Wikipedia.

Wikipedia, I guess, or whoever wants to be identified by the process of writing the articles.

adamovicm

It's rather one-sided, which is to say it makes no attempt whatsoever to present the opposing viewpoint. I've seen that newspapers do that frequently, they tend to not present opposing viewpoints. We've seen it with TheLocal, and British Press fiasco. They never contacted us, AFAIK. Associated Pres...

adamovicm

Well, they say they found a technical connection of some sort - but they won't reveal what it is (as that's forbidden by checkuser policy). I have opened a checkuser policy: The tool should not be used for political control, to apply pressure on editors, or as a threat against another editor in a c...

adamovicm

Boing! said Zebedee wrote: ↑
Wed May 31, 2023 7:50 am
Could it be someone using the same IP address as you, for example?

I'd know if other users edit the Numbeo page using my IP address unless someone injected a virus or something on one of my devices (that I found extremely unlikely considering that I'm using mostly Manjaro Linux).

adamovicm

Hi guys, I was blocked on 10 May 2023 (UTC) with this message: "You were warned last month about editing the article directly, despite the fact that you have a clear conflict of interest, but you have continued to do so, both using this account, and while logged out. This is not acceptable. I consid...

adamovicm

I think we had enough of this shitshow.

I really hope this will not propagate further

I kindly ask the moderator to close this topic

adamovicm

The article pops 1st for Google queries "subject criticism" and 3th result for "subject accuracy". It drove attention to the criticism section and for years it looked more like a trolling ground rather than a short NPOV article about the company. Moreover, negative Wikipedia article, in our opinion,...

adamovicm

Midsize Jake wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 am
The English Wikipedia? Where do you see that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criticism

adamovicm

Coffecrumbs, while I have understood better your points of view and while I understand now what would be a better approach in the past, I cannot change the past (as I'm lacking access to the time machine), and as any other business owner, I have to think about the future. Wikipedia policies have thi...

adamovicm

Mr. Adamovic, do you feel you can glean any more info from us? I haven't seen that anyone here or in the article mentioned any positive viewpoint about Numbeo. So, what would be the best way for us to get Wikipedia to adhere to their own content policies regarding Numbeo article now and in the futu...

adamovicm

He's accusing you of attempting to do legal work without a real lawyer (pro se). I represent my company in simple to medium tasks in my country such as contracts, letters, etc. If there is something more complex, we pay lawyers from time to time, usually regarding some tricksy contracts. We operate...

adamovicm

Vigilant, it looks very much outside of the context to me. I'm not Wikipedian who spent hours and hours every day engaging with internal Wikipedia issues, like many of you here have. Without going into specifics of his lawsuit, it looks to me that at least some of the stuff there he was bound to los...

adamovicm

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 2:53 pm
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