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by Lurking
Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:37 am
Forum: Mission Statement, Terms of Service, and Welcome
Topic: Server issues
Replies: 76
Views: 2507

Re: Server issues

[...] The bad news is, we're still getting the "Max-Connections Exceeded" and "Max-Questions Exceeded" errors, and I suspect the Server Error 500 pages too, though I haven't seen one of those since the slow load times problem was fixed (or rather ameliorated, to use the more likely-to-be-accurate t...
by Lurking
Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:08 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30944

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

Dennis, I agree except for one thing. I don’t think any editor with a COI should edit articles directly. All conflicted editors should use talk pages instead.. As an ideal, I'd agree. Considering how dysfunctional the edit request system is on the best of days, though? Folks will get frustrated and...
by Lurking
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:26 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30944

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

You guys crack me up. I'm amazed no one understands, intentionally or otherwise, why I said what I said, even though I said it plain as day. Everyone has a COI. Maybe if you live at home in your mom's basement, suckling off her retirement account, maybe then you don't, but everyone else has a COI o...
by Lurking
Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:44 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30944

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

For the record I deal with non-English speakers constantly on Wikipedia and there is no way in hell that that's an ok thing to say. Very few people want to discuss their English capabilities let alone.be patronized about them. And for the record I've seen no indication in Fram's writing that he isn...
by Lurking
Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:59 pm
Forum: Mission Statement, Terms of Service, and Welcome
Topic: Redirect loops on Firefox
Replies: 13
Views: 683

Re: Redirect loops on Firefox

SQL error is somewhat frequent here as well, and less commonly "misloads" where it does load the page, sort of, but the style elements are all over the place and it clearly failed to load some of them.

Don't think I've had a redirect loop of the type Sennalen described, though.
by Lurking
Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:39 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Breaking News
Replies: 5
Views: 438

Re: Breaking News

Natural disasters are the textbook example of this. Unless it's a major disaster in the English-speaking world, or a MAJOR disaster outside it (to the point English-language media will not just cover the initial flurry of reporting but also pay significant attention of the aftermath and long-term ef...
by Lurking
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:12 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30944

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

Unless you are Volunteer Marek , in which case outing is perfectly fine and just what academics do. With great sympathy to the good volunteer, the reader might perhaps be referred to the text at Lukas 20:25, "Er aber sprach: So gebet dem Kaiser, was des Kaisers ist, und Gott, was Gottes ist!". Engl...
by Lurking
Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:30 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519097

Re: News from RFA

AE is already a self-selected committee and already suffers from chronic under-participation and long delays in action. I don't think having fewer people on a committee would be effective. As far as only committee members being able to block extended-confirmed editors you're basically just changing...
by Lurking
Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:22 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Binksternet, FMSky, and "anti-US" music deletionism
Replies: 65
Views: 4862

Re: Binksternet, FMSky, and "anti-US" music deletionism

Dude, look. The more you--a socking banned user--keep posting about how someone should change it on your behalf, the less likely anyone posting or reading here is to actually do it, regardless of whether your complaints are valid. :facepalm: It's one thing to quietly make a correction of a singular ...
by Lurking
Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:18 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Brendanconway - how is he still an admin?
Replies: 22
Views: 1688

Re: Brendanconway - how is he still an admin?

A better question is "Which admins down in the A's have already been used?" and why hasn't anyone found out? Looks like they just skipped past me. Unless they're just picking semi-active admins ... in which case why Bradv? Bradv was inactive at the time. No edits from August 2022 to about a week-an...
by Lurking
Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:02 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Worm that Turned has quit
Replies: 22
Views: 2040

Re: Worm that Turned has quit

Are Wikipedia editors really "creating" anything? That's a serious question, by the way. I could go with "collecting" knowledge, but "creating" knowledge is not only a stretch, it also goes against a couple of policies. Yup, I’d say that they are. “Knowledge” requires repositories. That’s not creat...
by Lurking
Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: Mission Statement, Terms of Service, and Welcome
Topic: Unscheduled Downtime
Replies: 9
Views: 5006

Re: Unscheduled Downtime

More "unscheduled maintenance" tonight (or rather, early morning Jan. 7, 2024). It only lasted a few minutes, so I'm guessing they just rebooted the server(s) after an OS upgrade. It looks like everyone might have to log in again though, since it doesn't appear to be respecting existing session IDs...
by Lurking
Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:30 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: CFdJ - Clusterfucque du jour
Replies: 789
Views: 419804

Re: CFdJ - Clusterfucque du jour

It's a little surprising that a guy who had the clue when he was alive not to broadcast his wealth didn't consider that most people are shitty and once you're dead you really have limited control of where the money goes. That said, $3.8 million is a lot of money in some respects, but in governance ...
by Lurking
Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:15 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Lingua Libre
Replies: 32
Views: 6338

Re: Lingua Libre

Huh. Genuine question: is that text really not-very-accessible/difficult to read for native English speakers to the point it needs deciphering. rather than just reading? Might be the advantage of familiarity with Middle and Early Modern Dutch and German, and the significant differences between mode...
by Lurking
Sun Nov 26, 2023 5:24 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Lingua Libre
Replies: 32
Views: 6338

Re: Lingua Libre

Edit: I mean, I can't even find a single article that is in Scots. It's all just English with the occasional word changed to sound Scottish... It is fucking embarrassing. But obviously embarrassing in a Highly Encyclopedic Way, since it’s Quite Undeletable. A minot cavil, though. Not everybody who ...
by Lurking
Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:34 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Al Jazeera again
Replies: 22
Views: 2111

Re: Al Jazeera again

But this raises the fundamental question, wouldn't bias in sources, translate to bias in Wikipedia? Get that cart behind the horse! The bias in the editors is what causes editors (like yourself) to preference certain sources. Except that on Wikipedia, the real win is when you can deprecate a source...
by Lurking
Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:41 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Lingua Libre
Replies: 32
Views: 6338

Re: Lingua Libre

I could see such a thing being useful for documentation of languages at risk of extinction. My guess without looking is that the great bulk of recordings are, however, of languages not at all at such risk. Yes, it would be great if dying languages were documented before they are gone. I have very s...
by Lurking
Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:34 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Lingua Libre
Replies: 32
Views: 6338

Re: Lingua Libre

Lingua Libre is a project of Wikimedia France. It has gathered over 1 million recordings of over 1,400 speakers in over 200 languages. Recordings of what, you ask? Words and phrases. I am sure this has been written up somewhere, but I don't recall ever hearing about it. I've read their "about" page...
by Lurking
Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:02 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikipedia, Overwolf, and NPOV
Replies: 31
Views: 2702

Re: Wikipedia, Overwolf, and NPOV

If you've actually read Britannica in a topic area where you have enough subject matter expertise to know what you're talking about, you'll know it's reputation for accuracy is grossly exaggerated. My point is not that Wikipedia's accuracy is great, but that it is comparable to other general refere...
by Lurking
Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:14 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519097

Re: News from RFA

People get too easily upset by soapboxing RfA oppose comments unrelated to the RfA. Subsequent arguing detracts from the RfA and stirs up unnecessary drama. RfA soapboxers are like mountain street preachers. They annoy many, convert few and are mostly harmless. They are best ignored, not argued wit...
by Lurking
Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:50 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Breakdown at MFD
Replies: 87
Views: 12073

Re: Breakdown at MFD

The way he flip-flopped from "these are totally appropriate mainstream essays that are above reproach" to "these aren't essays at all, they are and always have been article drafts and I don't know why you aren't helping me write them right now" to "you are deliberately censoring anti-Trump opinions...
by Lurking
Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:13 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Italian abuses and vendetta. Gitz6666 globally locked
Replies: 195
Views: 26022

Re: Italian abuses and vendetta. Gitz6666 globally locked

As so often happens in these cases of abuse of power, the success of the appeal ought not be cause to declare that all is well, but rather is further evidence that the processes that led to the initial action were deeply flawed. In particular, it should be clearly codified going forward that stewar...
by Lurking
Fri May 19, 2023 4:48 am
Forum: Web 2.0: The Emperor's New Clothes
Topic: Google to delete accounts that haven't been logged into in two years
Replies: 16
Views: 2326

Re: Google to delete accounts that haven't been logged into in two years

Someone else's computer, just one you can access from basically anywhere in the world. Means it makes for a pretty good backup in many cases, but a terrible place to host the only copy of something. Then again, nowhere is a good place to host the only copy of anything digital you would mind losing....
by Lurking
Thu May 18, 2023 8:01 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Proposal to end appeals to Jimbo
Replies: 134
Views: 6756

Re: Proposal to end appeals to Jimbo

No one's read that part of the arb policy in a long time and now they can't believe that's actually what it says. Loving it, honestly. "We don't operate by simple majority rule!" Except that the policy quite clearly says you ("General Wikipedian you") do in this case. If you don't like it, you know...
by Lurking
Thu May 18, 2023 10:12 am
Forum: Web 2.0: The Emperor's New Clothes
Topic: Google to delete accounts that haven't been logged into in two years
Replies: 16
Views: 2326

Re: Google to delete accounts that haven't been logged into in two years

Someone else's computer, just one you can access from basically anywhere in the world. Means it makes for a pretty good backup in many cases, but a terrible place to host the only copy of something. Then again, nowhere is a good place to host the only copy of anything digital you would mind losing. ...
by Lurking
Mon May 15, 2023 11:22 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
Replies: 3839
Views: 209842

Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year

...guess who has regained CU permissions?
by Lurking
Wed May 10, 2023 2:42 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519097

Re: News from RFA

Quite pleasantly surprised to see that nobody has complained about them only registering in 2021. There was definitely a time that it was considered "too fast" to run even if the candidate had contributed exemplary work. Yes, that's quite a change. I am a bit concerned, though, that promoting accou...
by Lurking
Tue May 02, 2023 5:33 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
Replies: 403
Views: 39914

Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions

I generally get along quite well with both Courcelles and Primefac, so this was an awkward moment for me, and probably for them as well. I've been on both sides of the coin with TRM as well, he can very much be like a dog with a bone, and sometimes that can be a good thing, but not always. Highligh...
by Lurking
Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:48 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: 2023 Nashville school shooter
Replies: 24
Views: 1559

Re: 2023 Nashville school shooter

I think another factor in the different treatment between the AE incident three years ago and the school shooter article incident recently has been overlooked: mainspace vs wiki's internal spaces. It's hardly the first time people get blocked over saying something about a living or recently deceased...
by Lurking
Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:07 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing
Replies: 137
Views: 8389

Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Apparently he can't, as per this Meta page . He previously could do that locally, but that ability has also been removed . It'll be interesting to see if the media picks this up. Just last week some folks were interviewing Jimbo about ChatGPT, and whether or not constructs like it should be used fo...
by Lurking
Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:26 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing
Replies: 137
Views: 8389

Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

But the point is moot since Jimbo seems to be asking T&S to remove all his advanced permissions. We don't generally say nice things about Jimbo here, but I think he deserves credit for this. He is sort-circuiting what would be an ugly public debate if the Community was asked to vote on it. Yes, tha...
by Lurking
Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:28 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikipedia intentionally distorting Holocaust history?
Replies: 801
Views: 46441

Re: Wikipedia intentionally distorting Holocaust history?

In the past few years it has become more and more difficult to have debates about contentious topics, because each "side" has elevated their opinion to a righteous cause. [...] Social media is happily and dutifully right there behind it, algorithmically funneling you to people who share your opinio...
by Lurking
Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:58 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519097

Re: News from RFA

Out of interest, does anyone have figures on how successful self-nom RFAs are? Or when the last one was successful? Some quick figures from a brief dive into the RfA archives: Most recent successful self-nom: DatGuy, in August 2022 Most recent 10 self-noms, in reverse chronological order, successfu...
by Lurking
Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:25 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Block and unblock of AndewNguyen
Replies: 102
Views: 6578

Re: Block and unblock of AndewNguyen

AndewNguyen made a bunch of edits to Norwegian subjects when he first started (where Emil Kirkegaard/ Deleet has spent a lot of time) and to Chemnitz University of Technology (where a collaborator of Emil's is a professor). Kind of strange for a Vietnamese. Fwiw, Norway does have a reasonably sized...
by Lurking
Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:44 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Maps: Another Futile Policy Discussion
Replies: 20
Views: 1278

Re: Maps: Another Futile Policy Discussion

It's not clear to me what Blofeld's and Carlos' sources were. Suarez used GNIS, which is really the poster child for maps as sources that have to be interpreted. They got a bunch of people at USGS to go over all their maps and pick names off, trying to figure out what they represented. They made a ...
by Lurking
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:54 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: [Evening Standard] Majority of Wikipedia editors are STILL MEN
Replies: 30
Views: 1359

Re: [Evening Standard] Majority of Wikipedia editors are STILL MEN

It took until age 13 for me to actually get the diagnosis ASD. I just so happen to be AFAB. My closest cousins, who are far less blatantly autistic, got diagnosed age seven and eight respectively. And yup, they just so happen to be male. Same with classmates I've had that were on the spectrum. Almo...
by Lurking
Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:13 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: [Evening Standard] Majority of Wikipedia editors are STILL MEN
Replies: 30
Views: 1359

Re: [Evening Standard] Majority of Wikipedia editors are STILL MEN

Women have cycled out. Why? Children. Autism rates are lower in women. Sex_differences_in_autism Men and boys are more frequently diagnosed with autism than women and girls. It is debated whether this is due to a sex difference in rates of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) or whether females are unde...
by Lurking
Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:13 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
Replies: 403
Views: 39914

Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions

My view is, well duh an RfC on mass creation/mass deletion didn't produce any useable results when it attempted to establish rules about mass creation/deletion without the prior establishing of a definition of mass creation/deletion. (Or at least, a workable one. IIRC, there's some vague half-defini...
by Lurking
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:16 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519097

Re: News from RFA

I don't begrudge them either, but I do suspect Beeblebrox has a point: if you're somewhat sensitive to rejection, negative feedback, and people heavily scrutinizing your actions and projecting intentions on your actions, admin probably isn't the right kind of function for you, because that sort of r...
by Lurking
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:26 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikipedia intentionally distorting Holocaust history?
Replies: 801
Views: 46441

Re: Wikipedia intentionally distorting Holocaust history?

Yeah let's be clear, all sides agree Icewhiz did far worse than "just" "attempt[ing] to continue editing after a conduct-related block"--indeed, "just" that behavior typically isn't enough to wind up banned (Yes there's a difference, and most of the time it doesn't matter, but I think it's actually...
by Lurking
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:53 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: Vector 2022 skin
Replies: 121
Views: 18368

Re: Vector 2022 skin

If they INSIST on working on cosmetic issues without an ask from their customer base, then they should preview these changes on a test server and ask for comments/critiques PRIOR to trying to deploy it on a live community... Nah, wouldn't work. Lemme pretend to be WMF for a moment: * if someone dis...
by Lurking
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:24 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Disambiguation, anthroponymy, bears, oh my!
Replies: 3
Views: 273

Re: Disambiguation, anthroponymy, bears, oh my!

Why do we have separate "disambiguation" and "anthroponymy" pages here, anyway? Is it consistent? I feel like I have seen pages that function as both, but I might be mistaken. There's pages that function as both, yes, on both the given name and surname front (both of which have specific subcategori...
by Lurking
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:45 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Russ Baker, fuss maker
Replies: 9
Views: 496

Re: Russ Baker, fuss maker

Why aren't all BLPs on flagged revisions? Still? It still seems really weird pending changes just stopped being a thing anyone talks about. But this guy is a loon, and there's no way a proper Wiki bio would ever please him. It is weird that there's a pretty strong investigative journalist to conspi...
by Lurking
Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:56 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: The Nicholas Alahverdian Story
Replies: 1586
Views: 494869

Re: The Nicholas Alahverdian Story

a surgical operation meant he could not be a rapist as he struggled to perform sexually That's a clownishly inept defense. Suppose it depends somewhat on if he's being tried in one of those jurisdictions that unfortunately still treats things as "if it's not penis-in-vagina, it's a different, less ...
by Lurking
Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:48 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Bizarrely long dispute about Minneapolis burger restaurants
Replies: 11
Views: 806

Re: Bizarrely long dispute about Minneapolis burger restraunts

Categories writ large and a lot of lists are two things that really should just get replaced entirely. They're a lot of effort to maintain and, especially since Wikipedia has an insistence that incredibly broad "List of" type pages are fine, can never be completed. Categories have their uses in pri...
by Lurking
Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:56 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Joe West, Umpire and Litigation-Threatener
Replies: 6
Views: 465

Re: Joe West, Umpire and Litigation-Threatener

Yeah, block 'em for legal threats. That way you don't need to look at the article in question to see whether what they are objecting to should be there in the first place... The two are not mutually exclusive, but I agree totally with the principle that if someone is threatening legal action, the c...
by Lurking
Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:49 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Why did Pakistan block Wikipedia? (was: "Pakistan 'degrades' Wikipedia etc.)
Replies: 19
Views: 940

Re: Pakistan "degrades" Wikipedia, warns of complete block (via TechCrunch)

That in itself won't get the Wikipedians to back off, obviously, since so few of them care about human life in places like Burkina Faso. But it might just spur the international community of general do-gooders to support their cause. It'll take time, and more money than they probably have, but if t...
by Lurking
Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:07 pm
Forum: The Money Trail
Topic: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money
Replies: 347
Views: 53131

Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Or maybe they just need Ashley back to run things? Meanwhile, Bluerasberry seems to write a lot about why they can't put things in writing - but would really, really like to talk about it. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:QW2022#Documentation_of_meeting? I don't get this. Lane is a nice guy who...
by Lurking
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:14 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: Vector 2022 skin
Replies: 121
Views: 18368

Re: Vector 2022 skin

If the WMF had handled the introduction of the new skin better, there would have been far less acrimony. I don't actually understand why they made it the default skin for existing users. Tell people why you think they should switch and see if they do. If they don't, that's their problem, not yours....
by Lurking
Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:14 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Bbb23
Replies: 11
Views: 2919

Re: Bbb23

The average Wikipediocracy insult is something proper and clever like "I see the swivel-eyed loon is venting his spleen again". The average Sucks insult is something like "Stupid bbb23s is a bbb23s that is stupid". I've been wondering for a while, but why this fascination with "stupid [noun/name/et...