Wikipediocracy

watis

The sourcing on this article is quite poor (apparently, created by AFreshStart , who I don’t know much about). Maybe it would be best to just delete it and avoid the entire controversy altogether. AFreshStart (formerly Bangalamania) is an editor on a lot of people's radars for editing poor-quality ...

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I believe the problem with XRV might have something to do with a functionary making snarky offwiki comments of "can you believe people are trying to review rollback", in a discussion about a problematic admin with a long history of rollback abuse? I'm shocked a process got derailed and deemed a dram...

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Good post, but some formatting issues.

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AndyTheGrump wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:16 am
The diagrams are from Feoffer (T-C-L). He seems to be a 'skeptic' rather than a woo-merchant.

God, it might be better were he a woo-merchant. I bet he's part of Gerbic's canvassing group -- the competence level matches.

watis

If this guy had fucked off for six months and returned to his topic area without anyone suggesting he shouldn't do that, would the exact same people be complaining about how sanctions are so easy to game?

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orangepi wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:37 am
Or would the hordes of sleeper-socks here start voting then?

Would that be a bad thing?

watis

I think CWC is probably notable. I also think IAR is the corest policy. "Should we have an unremittingly and unavoidably awful page that will suck up voids of editor time and public goodwill for no reason?" seems trivially answerable.

watis

Parabola wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:56 am
sevens not eight, but it is the number, as it were.

Memories of Chains but it's an SPI page

I voted for the three easy ones, the joke guy, and the guy with actual content. I have some sense I had a sixth, but no recollection of who it could be.

watis

someone should really take notice, in the bad way, that The C of E got banned from being extremely jingoistic and racist about the irish and immediately jumped ship to editing mostly pages about the failed white power state of rhodesia. some extremely obvious psychology occurring here Yeah, it suck...

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I like Rhodo a lot. I'd love him to RfA, if I were more optimistic about RfA's sanity/non-evil. I obviously don't agree with his thoughts about WPO, or I wouldn't be here. I think WPO is a heterogeneous group of people with a heterogeneous range of opinions on Wikipedia and a tendency to speak in th...

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Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:05 am
Category:Ponytails in the United States? (I'm just kidding, that's not a real category. That would be ridiculous. Don't even click the link.)

Those are clearly braids.

watis

Repetition's an interesting balance to strike. There's a strong argument to be made we don't do enough of it. People seeing Wikipedia from a birds-eye view -- the habit both of editors and critics, and of the overlap between the two -- tend to think of articles as full works. Readers don't. The edit...

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Is there a summary or something about Chris’ early days? A number of old timers and influential editors like SV, Risker, and Bishonen made comments at the unblock about how great he used to be way back when. He invented {{citation needed}} and AN (and by extension ANI -- so it goes). That alone is ...

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I think that you should offer a bit more than a vaguewave at "when I examine that e-mail account". All in good time. As I say, I think it is fair to give IHA time to respond first. So... can we now say that Mr. Accounts has, in fact, responded? I can't imagine Mr. Boing is going to tell us that he ...

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Jam band During the summer of 1995, shortly after the Deer Creek[21] gate crash,[relevant?] Garcia died. The surviving members of the Grateful Dead formed The Other Ones (appearing as "The Dead" for some tours). During the same period, Phish rose to prominence, and bands such as String Cheese Incid...

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As this thread includes allegations of serious email harrassment against multiple people who can be easily connected to their real-world identities, some as semi-public figures, I recommend moving it to the unindexed section.

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Seeing the types of comments watis has made through this thread, I have experience with this pattern before. I had to go through therapy due to an ex who engaged in domestic abuser behavior. He would regularly try to provoke me and then insist that the exact emotions and reaction he was creating we...

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Editors who find themselves blocked on false or flimsy grounds have both my every sympathy, and, indeed, my empathy. But some people are just temperamentally unsuited to collaborative endeavours. If an editor's modus operandi is to personalise every dispute, then eventually some grounds will be fou...

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IhateAccounts wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:16 am
[wall of text]

You'd be indeffed by now even if you weren't a sock, and it wouldn't be for your sexuality.

watis

The biggest funding sources are Big Tech multinationals, which seem to prioritize Wikidata over anything using a format so weary as prose. (The fact Wikidata is shit and awful seems irrelevant.) The WMF has never been known for its perfect prioritization at any rate.

watis

Is it at all possible the WMF is playing the long con here? IE that their goal IS actually to require registration, but they know "the community" will riot if they suggest it or try to make it happen by fiat, so they put together this terrible proposal so "the community" says "Forget it we'll just ...

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Inclusionists will win the war eventually. :blink: ...:XD ... :evilgrin: ... :D ... :rotfl: :banana: You guys are a hoot. There is no war, and the "army" of inclusionists showed itself to be made up of dishonest assholes a long time ago. Ya'll proved you couldn't win without cheating, because the n...

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Let's see - murder, mummification, serial killers, beheading, deliberate infection with STDs, and orgasms? But that's just a guess. It's the kind of creepypasta thing I associate with teenagers and don't think of anyone over the age of 18 being into. I suppose "for adults only" is the best way to a...

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I'm not sure what's "adults only" about that collection of Weird Facts.

watis

Huh, that explains a lot of what I've seen around the DYKsphere lately.

watis

Not putting you on the spot, I just haven't seen the tools window. There are tons of screenshots floating around. Here's one: https://i.imgur.com/7pbowJv.png So yeah, probably not all that technically complex. Scrutinizing her logs, looks to be pretty normie, uncontroversial spamdalism blocks. It's...

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This log hints at some specific internal knowledge that may reveal connections to another contributor. Huh? That's an account to test the block button with, as described at Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Blocking#How to block . Indeed, as Osborne would have seen had he looked at the user page -- a...

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I chuckled at this headline, because I've seen the opposite complaint so much -- that Missvain doesn't close AfDs as delete when they "should be". (An editor recently CBANNED for gross incompetence took her to DRV over it , for instance.) She goes through phases of closing a ton of AfDs, and claims ...

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Recent RFAs (other than "not now" cases) seem to be passing with really high percentages of support. Barring any unforseen last-minute opposes this will close in a few hours at 98%. The last three before that closed at 97, 99, and 95%. I'm not sure what that means but it probably means something. "...

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Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Wed May 19, 2021 2:40 am
Uhoh. That's not quite the same as "I have not had any other accounts" is it?

C'mon, man, that's totally natural English phrasing. I get it can be fun to play 'spot the sock', but all of this has been a reach.

watis

As well as the dumber opposes, there looks to be concern in all three columns that the candidate gives "canned" answers to questions.

watis

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ashleyyoursmile (T-H-L)

I thought you people always posted RfAs the moment they came up? Slackers. Anyway, solid content contributor, plenty of good and featured content. Currently an uncontroversial RfA with a couple utterly incomprehensible opposes.

watis

Buidhe, there's a similar issue on an article you edit a lot: Armenian Genocide. If you look at stats from books, you'll see near half capped; and the contexts where caps are ahead are generally in refernces to titles such as "Revolutionary Genocide : On the Causes of the Armenian Genocide of 1915 ...

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Honestly, I'd be inclined to put in a "please whitelist this specific URL for the article" request. Or I would if I expected it to have any chance of going through. I dealt with the spam-blacklist-people once and all I got for my trouble was Praxidicae snootily informing me a source was so obviousl...

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Honestly, I'd be inclined to put in a "please whitelist this specific URL for the article" request. Or I would if I expected it to have any chance of going through. I dealt with the spam-blacklist-people once and all I got for my trouble was Praxidicae snootily informing me a source was so obviously...

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There is a group of over-assertive long-term editors who have figured out that you don't even need to be an admin to exercise immense power over others. Manual-of-style defenders, I'm looking at you. Several of the stupidest discussions I've ever had on WP were about MOS issues, and people who use ...

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A classic of the "crap article on a corporation" genre, Piano Media . Highlights include there being both reference bombing and citation-needed bombing, prose written at an ESL level, the infamous "Criticism" section heading, and a tense that suggests the company went defunct but is also still plan...

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In some ways, this is actually worse, and makes me wonder just how many other just-plain-wrong early Wikipedia articles have since been 'amended' to look more credible while retaining their original false premise. I've rewritten articles of that kind. Historical and scientific hypothesizing are bot...

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Typical Wikipedia quality. Chicken parmigiana is typically served in Australia with a side of chips and salad, although there is some dispute as to whether they should be served under or next to the chicken . Really? That belongs in an encyclopedia? As for chips and salad on the same plate, Burgess...

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Randy from Boise wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:06 am
Why is this a thread?

Did a sock get caught lately?

watis

Of course, then there is the problem that their written English is poor, but that will be fixed by other editors, won't it? Interesting to see eventualism espoused on WPO. The soi-disant underrepresentation of the global south is another issue I've been thinking about lately. Wikipedia has many, ma...

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Of course, then there is the problem that their written English is poor, but that will be fixed by other editors, won't it? Interesting to see eventualism espoused on WPO. The soi-disant underrepresentation of the global south is another issue I've been thinking about lately. Wikipedia has many, ma...

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I was having trouble finding what you were talking about, since you didn't link to it. I think, on checking my watchlist, which I don't do all that often, I ran across it. Uggh. I hate to see this trash talk on "my" project. I didn't see this until after it had already closed. I'm uncomfortable wit...

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functionally defunct like Wikivoyage and Wikinews Not comparable examples -- the former has about ten times the active userbase and far more day-to-day activity. It averages about as many editors a month as the Tamil or Estonian Wikipedias, which are both fairly respectable projects. Wikinews is on...

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The way I saw it called was "small wiki with big wiki problems". They have most of the images used on enwiki and all of the images used on many projects (including a few other big ones like eswiki), which means they have a high activity rate, but almost none of that is 'people who actually do things...

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I proposed the partial block on moving pages . This is intended for those who can't stop themselves from making mass moves such as those replacing hyphens with dashes, against consensus or without first getting consensus. The usual suspects for mass-MOS-moves are currently harrassing one of the sit...

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An article I've worked on has had an IP geolocating to the subject's area try to cut as much as a decade from the DOB a few times. It's a particularly transparent one, considering the given date would make the subject about ten when she was famous, but I admit to sympathy for a woman in an age-focus...

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AngelOne wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:01 am
If Cake and Cunnilingulus Day is April 14, why isn't it appearing as a DYK for that date?

This was discussed. Extensively. It was quite contentious. The answer in the end is "the guy who built that prep set told everyone else to fuck off".

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Lewis (baseball) . A baseball player with no significant coverage somehow made it onto the front page as a featured article. ...and that's a good thing. In fact, it's fantastic. Wikipedia's failures are in its permastubs, its unmaintained and overlooked. Every scrapes-by-NSPORTSBALL article should ...

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EEng is massively annoying. All I ever see him do is clown around and make jokes in serious ANI discussions that are totally unwarrated. What does EEng do to warrant such adulation? EEng has quite substantial, if controversial, content contributions. I also find him genuinely funny, but I recognize...

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