Wikipediocracy

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Hoes mad. No source has a guarantee of accuracy. They all just try their best. Wikipedia is more accurate and extensive than most sources these days.

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Pakistani government issues notice to Google and Wikipedia: https://twitter.com/PTAofficialpk/statu ... 7471186946

Last time they tried this, they had to ban YouTube. That backfired badly. But they have learned their lesson and probably aren't going to try to ban anything.

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Whenever some Mullah in Pakistan needs to increase his political clout, he makes up some bullshit issue usually involving Jews, Ahmadis, blasphemy against Muhammad etc etc. Usually gets people killed but who cares about all that? These are usual tactics, this time featuring a gaffe by Google.

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Well, that's was Nobel moment. Abd wouldn't be happy to see what others wrote assuming him to be dead.

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I'm pretty sure the group invited Larry Sanger *because* of his views. They're notgoing to be fazed by anything on his twitter account. Who even knows about Larry Sanger in India? What does he even have to do with anything related to India? The only thing I can think of is OpIndia's interview of him...

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That reminds me that a journalist on Twitter claimed that OpIndia is making "blockbuster money"; "hate us quite profitable". And a small good news: OpIndia's Hindi editor Ajeet Bharati's twitter account was suspended. I hope the official account is next. And are seminars recorded? Will there be a re...

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If you think you're going to win an argument with Poetlister by using facts, you haven't been paying attention. ;) He's just changed his argument. He previously said "Like India, or Uganda. Christian missionaries can held responsible for the persecution of sexual minorities there." I queried whethe...

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Are western imperial forces to blame for all the countries where homosexuality is illegal,sometimes punishable by the death penalty, although it is legal in virtually all western countries? :dubious: Maybe not all. But for at least some countries' yes. 100%. Like India, or Uganda. Christian mission...

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Are western imperial forces to blame for all the countries where homosexuality is illegal,sometimes punishable by the death penalty, although it is legal in virtually all western countries? :dubious: Maybe not all. But for at least some (most?) countries, yes. 100%. Like India, or Uganda. Christian...

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Well, that is a western argument, after all, and given numbers it's a very safe bet that most of the world doesn't hold either to it or to modern western notions of family and sexuality. Nothing Western about basic decency and respect for human rights. Maybe the opposite: persecution of sexual mino...

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Wikipedia:Teahouse#To all Wikipedia editors is quite an interesting saga. Sending "between £0.01 to £1 to a PayPal account" and taking a trip to Zimbabwe for free photographs is some serious stuff. And all this for what? This is some of the rare "truly Kafkaesque" stuff that I only previously saw i...

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Technology moves so fast, I can't believe it. I would have hoped this to be an open technology helping everyone all over the world (like the Internet) but looks like Microsoft has exclusive license rights over it and will probably control the future of NLP using this. OpenAI, not as "open" as one wo...

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There's a RIGHTGREATWRONG element to at least a few keep votes on fatal dog attacks list. There's a conspiracy theory that the Big Bulldog Lobby is trying to suppress information about fatalities caused by the violent nature of bulldogs. Of course, a few brave vigilantes are still heroically preserv...

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This thread felt surreal. The story basically feels like the internet version of a small village in some extremely remote area, where everyone knows everyone else and they hide their big dark secrets and closet skeletons from outsiders. Something I would expect to find Fredrik Knudsen's channel as a...

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Reading the first story of the latest Signpost reminded me of something I was thinking about a while ago. There's this "climate change activist" Licypriya Kangujam reminiscent of part Greta Thunberg, part Indigo Children and part so many children puppeted by their parents for their personal gain. I'...

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I love culture wars. It would be interesting to where the community draws the lines now, things have changed significantly since the last decade. The C of E had a some very stupid userboxes on his page (now removed). Two of the worst one were this "one man one woman" one and one declaring support fo...

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Poetlister wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:20 pm
That makes the Scots Wikipedia, with about 56,500 entries (fewer than 1% as many), look like small beer. I wonder if it will hit the headlines in the same way.

Nah. Most people don't even what Malagasy is, and probably don't really care about Africa, or Wiktionary.

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Prahlad didn't have a very serious meltdown or anything, the OS block wasn't for anything serious, just fairly innocuous thing. He needed a break and he's taking it.

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When you do buy the domain, try to make it memorable, shortish, and get the .org and .com domains. I'd say the most important domain to get for a putative encyclopedia would be .info I have a sneaking suspicion that you own, or at least have some relationship with, engole.info. If you do, a suggest...

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The thing to do is to consider each editor on their contributions and interactions with others on the site, regardless of what you may know about their behaviour off-site. Nah. This risks toxic people using your site as hunting grounds for marking targets for their off-wiki harassment. And of cours...

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Why was NC and for that matter ND licensing banned from Wikipedia and Commons in the first place? Was the intention to make it possible to sell off Wikipedia at some point? Obviously, as things stand the WMF gets no benefit from this policy unless it uses these photos and artwork for its own profit...

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If you're planning to build a less toxic version of Wikipedia, preemptively ban Eric Corbett, his sympathizers and generally anyone who resembles Eric Corbett in any way. Indeed, Eric Corbett is the personification of incivility and toxicity.

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We can rejoice that commercial companies can now benefit from money supplied by a fund supposed to benefit non-profit organisations. I'm no corporate bootlicker, but I don't think constraining licences to a specific subset of companies helps humanity. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/...

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Another experiment showing how influential Wikipedia is on the real world: Adding two paragraphs of text & nice pictures to randomly selected articles about small European cities led to an over 9% increase in hotel stays; the edit is worth $190k per year! https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1305187...

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I read the Wikipedia page on the film and thought that the controversy was about the marketing only too; but after seeing a video from a YouTuber particularly interested in the sexualisation of children, it looks either the Wikipedia page has been "PRed" or the reliable sources don't want to talk ab...

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David Gerard's deletionist skills are extremely impressive. He can get the article deleted even with the Guardian and similar coverage. But I wonder if he can resist a heavy attack from ARS.

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Didn't he resign from Everipedia after creating an article on his left thumb? Recently in the OpIndia interview he advised OpIndia viewers to create a favourable Everipedia article on Delhi riots.

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I recently looked at the Twitter account of OpIndia's CEO Rahul Roushan and it's simply disgusting. They've moved on from Ghar Wapsi (T-H-L) and he has now started retweeting stuff openly calling for genocide of Muslims. And there are still 4 years of this nightmare left.

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Zoloft, if in twenty years civilization is distroyed, I will give you five rolls of toilet paper. But if it isn't, you have to give me ten Scottish Pounds. Do we have a deal? Side tangent: Never understood why Western doomers care so much about toilet paper. Like the civilization is completely dest...

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I see that clot MJL - another American - is quoted in the Guardian article. I fail to see the point of the cringe-worthy Scots Wikipedia, and I say that as someone who grew up in Scotland, so could claim it to be my first language. If I actually believed it qualified as a language at all that is. M...

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I see that clot MJL - another American - is quoted in the Guardian article. I fail to see the point of the cringe-worthy Scots Wikipedia, and I say that as someone who grew up in Scotland, so could claim it to be my first language. If I actually believed it qualified as a language at all that is. M...

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There's a Vice piece about this debacle: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wxqy8x/most-of-scottish-wikipedia-written-by-american-in-mangled-english Bur it looks the writer of this piece knows less Scots than even AG himself. It's corrected now, but in an earlier version of the Vice article, the wri...

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It's even found its way to Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cobradile94/status/1298320405111943168 Where AM is Being Roundly beat up :XD I saw the reaction at the early stages and people were sending so much vile stuff towards AG. AG quickly deleted their twitter account. And AG had stopped identifying...

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Something very disturbing has been uncovered: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/ive_discovered_that_almost_every_single_article/ Over 20,000 articles on Scots Wikipedia aren't in Scots at all and were all written by an American guy who can't speak any Scots. Apparently, the Scots Wik...

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If there really is an "international elite" that can call lockdowns from USA to India and Europe to Africa, I won't even try to go against it. If they are that powerful, why are these people even trying? I, for one, welcome our international overlords that aren't new at all and have been ruling us f...

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I thought that "Articles-for-creation administrator" referred to Primefac (didn't really pick up on the "unelected" thing). But looks like it's GSS . GSS isn't really that interested in AfC; his main goal is catching UPE/COI/promotionalism. He patrols sites like Upwork/Freelancer to catch paid shill...

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Ming suspects that a lot of the stuff doesn't attract any enthusiasm for review because of the likelihood that its promotional trash. Yep. I've had a draft that was accepted within five minutes of submission; it was about a very notable topic that somehow didn't have an article, possibly because it...

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What I meant was that OTHERSTUFF is never actually "cited as policy" as Poetlister claims. What happens is that a newbie says: "there's already lot of trash on Wikipedia, so I should get to add my own trash" and someone more experienced says: "nope, we do already have lot of trash, we don't want mor...

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Yes, that's the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, an essay frequently cited at AfD as if it were a policy. From WP:ONLYESSAY : If someone links to an essay, proposal or guideline, they are not suggesting "WP:EXAMPLE says we should do this", but rather "I believe we should do this, WP:EXAMPLE explains t...

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We need to get the essay WP:FACTS accepted as a policy. Though some essays are treated as if they were policies, notably WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. WP:DOCITEBLUE is a great counterargument. DOCITEBLUE should become policy, not FACTS. Something might "obvious fact" for one person but not for everyone. FAC...

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We need to get the essay WP:FACTS accepted as a policy. Though some essays are treated as if they were policies, notably WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. WP:DOCITEBLUE is a great counterargument. DOCITEBLUE should become policy, not FACTS. Something might "obvious fact" for one person but not for everyone. FAC...

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Good to know that that spammers are now moving off of Wikipedia for whatever Google goals they want to achieve. I'm grateful to the efforts of those who fought to keep Wikipedia free of spam.

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Isn't the point that people are entitled to release things on NC or ND or both terms? Why does Wikipedia need to insist that it can only accept material which does not have these restrictions? Is there still some hope that they can sell off the site? I remember reading a discussion on Commons about...

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But to give you just a little bit of encouragement, try a Google search for Gertrude Agnew. The first result for me was Wikipedia but a SERP checker does show that some engole.info site is the first result when checking on a Desktop in United States. That site isn't even in the first page for mobil...

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Ahh, "jealous altruism." Not sure why that needs a portmanteau, but I agree, it's a natural, understandable impulse. Anyway, since you do seem to have some experience in this area, perhaps you'll forgive me asking the usual question I/we ask: ...Those who pay others to write Wikipedia articles on t...

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SYAC: no it wasn't. Wikipedia by default displays UTC time on page history no matter where it is accessed from. Indian Standard Time is 5 hours and 30 minutes ahead of UTC, creating an illusion that it was updated before the incident.

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There's almost no way this isn't going to be abused, and probably in ways they haven't even imagined yet. That sentence describes everything ever invented. I don't see any problem with this; just looks like a Wikidata mod that will it more human readable with the added benefit that it'll be signifi...

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The main reason I oppose paid editing is jalt. I work for free and someone makes money for doing a worse job? Fuck no. Speedy that shit. What's "jalt"? Google Translate isn't coming up with a lot of good options for that one... :unsure: Another reason would be that there is some plausible deniabili...

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The main reason I oppose paid editing is jalt. I work for free and someone makes money for doing a worse job? Fuck no. Speedy that shit. Another reason would be that there is some plausible deniability in normal biased editing, you can claim that reality is biased towards this or that position and y...

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"Pseudo-scientific racism" would be a better term, IMO. Yep, that's more descriptive. I've just noticed 3 out of 3 topics I've opened had a word starting with "racis" in the last comment... Wow. 1 minute silence. The murder of George Floyd has really heated up this race thing. There's like a 100k+ ...

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