Wikipediocracy

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Vigilant wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:52 pm
As the WP:WHEEL warring admin, shouldn't TNT have reached out to Lourdes prior to crossing that particular red line?

Common sense is so very uncommon on en.wp.

More so uncommon, as it were, on commons.

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… neither do I see that crazy screed as being anything else than the primal scream of a mentally unwell person. Athaenara was blocked, desysoped, thrashed in public and nearly community banned. But that wasn't enough for Tamzin and TheresNoTime. They and their friends badgered every single oppose v...

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Trainsandotherthings wrote:This is rapidly becoming a fishing expedition.

You mean like the fishing expedition TNT embarked upon with Athaenara and Lourdes?

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Zoloft wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:36 am
Read this famous essay on the death of irony. link

It will make you feel worse.

I think I feel worse because I don’t understand any of what I just read…

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More than that. Tamzin was told, explicitly, at her RfA to stay away from situations like this. She agreed to do so. And I’m noticing Tamzin apparently couldn’t help herself but to do a little gravedancing on her user page, with a quote I’m sure she perceives to be poetic justice but might actually...

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A cis female opines they feel their space is being encroached upon by trans women admins. A trans women admin reinstates an indef block against the cis woman and another trans woman admin opens a community ban discussion against the cis woman. The cis woman is gone. :facepalm: Embarrassing I didn’t...

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Vigilant wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:06 pm

DarthBotto wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:26 pm
There's yet another discussion about her on AN/I (at least the third in the past day), requesting a site ban.
By Tamzin.

Irony is dead.

I’m a little slow on the uptake, Vigilant, apologies but care to explain?

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Randy from Boise wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:52 pm
The people with their undergarments in a bunch have no idea — that's about a 0.7/10 on the offensiveometer. Trust me.

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If/when this is split off to its own thread, can whoever does it give it a witty name at least?

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We're up to 76 people who have commented at the RFAR, not including arbs. Good grief. See? Rushing in to virtue signal wasn’t a totally inaccurate assessment. Doing that and issuing proclamations on every bit of drama is frankly the reason most of these people are on Wikipedia. I probably didn’t ne...

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MaryKarrel wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:12 pm
Of the users in Category:Lesbian Wikipedians (T-H-L) with at least one edit in 2022, ~58% are mtf trans people and an additional ~13% are non-binary or ftm. ~29% haven't disclosed a gender identity---presumably some of these are non-transgender women.

What’s n?

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Lourdes briefly unblocked Athaenara without prior discussion, ostensibly to allow her to participate in the case, though neither she nor ArbCom requested it. After a short discussion at ANI, the block was restored about an hour and a half later. Genuine out of process mistake or intentional stirrin...

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Anroth wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:39 am
…(Or in the particular lesbian problem, pressure them into a relationship using their own ethics) etc…

That actually happens and it’s a well-known phenomenon.

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I think it’s actually good that this happened: Without Athaenara’s delightful comment, so many in the community wouldn’t have had the opportunity to so loudly virtue signal.

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ARoseWolf wrote: I was actually moved to tears over what you wrote in the RfA.

Wtf lol

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Keep per ArmasRebane

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I'm making this decision because I'd rather make the wrong decision by being too lenient than make the wrong decision by being too strict. :lolwut: Someone thinks his ArbCom position is on tier with that of a Supreme Court justice. Wikipedia is not a criminal justice system of the Western world. By...

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I think the issues of the editors here have been in some ways inextricably linked with the deeper problems at AfD: if AfD worked right, perhaps we would not be here. There you have it. AfD is to blame here. If it weren’t for AfD, these editors wouldn’t have been so consistently and unrelentingly di...

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We should have started a pool on bans before the voting started.

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Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:26 pm
He tends to speak in black and white terms.

You don’t say.

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Panic I am feeling panic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC) Even if he weren’t a major time sink for everyone unfortunate enough to interact with him, no one would take the bait on that obvious pity play. The smart thing for Arbcom to do here is just be done with it and siteban him....

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Vigilant wrote: ↑
Fri May 20, 2022 4:53 pm
DaxMoon already wears the scarlet W.

W?

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DaxMoon wrote: ↑
Fri May 20, 2022 3:44 pm
No Ledge. Thank you for the excellent reply. That clarifies a lot. If I'm unblocked, how should I go about bringing David Gerard's misconduct to light?

Nothing will come of filing a complaint and you will come out of it with a target painted on your back.

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Yeah I’m not a fan of this dickweed either. Looks like he’s had ANI flu since the second.

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hako9 wrote: ↑
Mon May 02, 2022 8:50 pm
I feel a little uncomfortable coming here now

Why? WPO is a fun place to read more about the fascinating WoW. People here are nicer than they are on Wikipedia.

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Sideswipe9th wrote:I am still very concerned at the impact Hammersoft's choice of words has had, both physically and emotionally on Tamzin.

What physical impact could there possibly have been?

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I’m sure the anticipation of supervote complaints is factoring into crat decisions. Kudos to UninvitedCompany for not caving to that (so far, anyway - it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he abruptly changed his position without explanation, after seeing all the oppose votes struck at the 11th hour).

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Vigilant wrote:I have high hopes that will pass because it will cause untold amounts of additional dramah.

I assume you mean when she ends up at Arbcom for desysopping?

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It’ll keep going for a while

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I predict Tamzin will get the tools but with a big * next to their name. Given their temperament, within two years, they'll be at ARBCOM for getting in a predictably stupid tussle over political articles and then they'll lose the tools and there will be crying and rending of clothes and sackcloth a...

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I’ve created vandal user pages in excess of 100k kb and not had a problem with them

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Vigilant wrote: ↑
Mon May 02, 2022 2:30 am

The following discussion is preserved as a request for adminship that has been placed on hold by a bureaucrat pending a decision as to the outcome. Please do not modify the text. The result of the discussion will be posted soon.

Agh you beat me. Time for some OT fun

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The last minute vote changing is pretty chilling, suggestive at the very least of some kind of intimidation. Whatever intimidation is happening, it's only happening one one direction. None of the support voters are changing their votes at the last minute; that's only being done by those who voted o...

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Jim wrote: ↑
Mon May 02, 2022 1:13 am
Of course, there is an hour left, and its currently becoming a bit farcical, with people withdrawing/changing votes willy-nilly, so where the numbers end up is still unclear.

The last minute vote changing is pretty chilling, suggestive at the very least of some kind of intimidation.

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That might've been Rexxs, which didn't end well, but I don't feel like this is quite the same situation. Final numbers there were 164/92. That's actually just below the automatic fail threshold. We're at a solid 3-1 in support here unless like 50 more oppose come in in the next 90 minutes. At the r...

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Beeblebrox wrote: ↑
Mon May 02, 2022 12:07 am
2 hours to go and it has slid down into the high end of the discretionary range, so it sure looks like it will go to 'crat chat. This should be interesting.

What happened the last time a crat chat resulted in promotion?

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Damn it, Scorpion

Add: your rationale, as TNT has already pointed out, gives the crats reason to dismiss outright.

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egg wrote: ↑
Sun May 01, 2022 5:11 pm
Don't be surprised if some posts disappear. Maybe some posters, too...

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1085384686

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anyhoo, nine hours to go, still hovering above the discretionary range at 319-88, 78%. That's certainly a big surge of opposes from the mere 3 that were there a few days ago, but it looks like the mass influx of opposers (how'd they all show up at once like that?) has tapered off and we're down to ...

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What are the optics of an RfA candidate engaging commentary off-wiki on a badsite?

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If it turns out that she is not capable of being impartial, someone can take her to arbcom. Based on my experiences with her (including a time where she admitted that her side was wrong), I see little reason to worry. However, I would have opposed her had she not been active in SPI and RM. When she...

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Vigilant wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:42 pm
Given their statements, the Tools should come with an indefinite topic ban from American politics, broadly construed.

The rationale that “if an admin needs to be restricted, then they shouldn’t be an admin” has been applied in a few recent Arbcom desysoppings. Should they have the tools at all?

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hako9 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:13 pm
But I guess Trump supporters deserve a special hate.

On Wikipedia, they do. And 301 (as of now) registered users have no problem with that. A substantial proportion of those 301 actively applaud it.

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I wonder if the same special courtesy and red carpet treatment that has been shown to Tamzin would be shown to a candidate who ran saying anyone continues to be a Bush supporter should be desysoped because in their view Bush is an oppressor and war mongerer. :welcome: Such a person would probably a...

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It'll probably still pass. There's only about 400 people interested in RfA, so I can't see anything more than 50 more opposes, which still puts it in the upper bound of the discretionary zone. Actually, it would be interesting to see what a 'crat chat makes of all this. I have to imagine that a ‘cr...

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I don’t know how to embed YouTube videos, ah well.

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Scorpions13256 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:28 am
Nah, I'm just the most indecisive person who has ever lived.

lol I should have specified everyone but you.

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With the switching back to support, one could be forgiven for assuming people are being urged off-wiki to amend their votes. Not sure how appropriate that is.

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Down to 89% now, damn. She'll still pass, but it may provide enough of an asterisk on her RfA to keep her from using her admin tools anywhere near American politics, which I suppose the opposers could chalk up as a win. In legitimate terms, it’s more like 88%-ish. I always support sock vote 2-3 tim...

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