Wikipediocracy

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There are currently 11 interface administrators (including one bot). After a glance at that list, I think your best bet if you want to blow up the 2022 Vector skin is to call for some TNT :lol: I should ask for the bit. After all, I'm one of the few editors with a demonstrated competence in the area.

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Things don't change. September of this year will mark the day I overrode the default editor selection, turning off VE. Haven't looked, but I bet editing the site Javascript can't be done by admins anymore.

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As someone that has the "Monobook" option selected. I've been spared. I guess the thing I should be somewhat grateful for is that they haven't deleted the Monobook option.

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I'm not thrilled about the direction some arbs seem to be going, for a motion proceeding where they declare that office actions are inviolable on pain of desysopping. It may be the case that admins who unilaterally reverse office actions should get desysopped, but summarily? ArbCom isn't and should...

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This is all based on the ludicrous concept that the right to privacy includes the right to anonymously do things in public.

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You have an alternate explanation for the attacks? You think that archive.is somehow accidentally compromised hundreds of unrelated residential and business computers from all over the world and it was all some kind of big misunderstanding? You can't establish whether those machines were actually c...

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Currently running 10:2 in favour. Dirk Beetstra opposes on the curious grounds that "this does not address the issues and consensuses of the previous RfCs and a supporting closure would not change anything". The previous "consensus" was the result of Kww and others promoting a conspiracy theory and...

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It is only the useless social media companies that think 5 years is forever and almost everyone of them is imminently replaceable because they generally don't offer anything of actual value. That's a bit strong: not only social media companies are infected with this thinking. Generally, the more di...

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To repeat: Dump the arbitrary, broad, unworkable interpretation of BLP by ArbCom, which I quoted. Make the different standards between userspaces explicit. Make it a bright line: "unsourced or poorly sourced", on the talkpage. But the BLP policy addresses not only defamation but also unwarranted in...

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mendaliv wrote:I seriously doubt how effective using Wikipedia as a vector would be, rather than, say, posting fake Ray-Bans sales on Facebook, or "Check out this one sneaky trick to lose weight" links on Twitter.

Being a genius and being a criminal rarely go hand-in-hand.

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Kumioko wrote: Maybe I am just naive and assuming too much good faith here

There's no maybe about it. That attack was widespread, long-lived, and incorporated hijacked consumer computers from all over the world.

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Nothing outrageous about my logic at all. Wikipedia was attacked by a botnet adding links to archive.is, and I saw (and still see) no reason to believe that people that use botnets can be trusted. And before some idiot says "you can't prove it was a botnet", I'll laugh at you in advance. No legitim...

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Nothing outrageous about my logic at all. Wikipedia was attacked by a botnet adding links to archive.is, and I saw (and still see) no reason to believe that people that use botnets can be trusted. And before some idiot says "you can't prove it was a botnet", I'll laugh at you in advance. No legitima...

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BTW, I'm not a proponent of alternative medicine, I just think the topic, like any other in WP, should be presented in line with WP's NPOV policy. Bullshit. No one would spend as much effort promoting such idiocy out of anything short of malice. No reasonable interpretation of NPOV requires the cla...

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That's also because he can't! His Arbcom case was conducted fairly, he was allowed to comment in his own defense and frankly he has done enough over the years he was lucky to have retained the tools as long as he did. This may be difficult for you to believe, Kumioko, but I sincerely feel that my d...

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Bear in mind, Kumioko, that as many people are concerned that you perceive your block as unjust as there are concerned that I perceive my desysop as unjust: approximately one in both cases. That's not true. Several people have stated openly they thought my ban(s) were unjustified. I haven't heard a...

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Bear in mind, Kumioko, that as many people are concerned that you perceive your block as unjust as there are concerned that I perceive my desysop as unjust: approximately one in both cases.

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Kumioko wrote: I also agree that Admin work needs to be done. There is still vandalism, spammers and POV pushers.

Not to mention block evaders.

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Kumioko wrote: Do you even have a point?

Yes. You are a deluded fool. It doesn't matter what you think of your ban. Now that you are banned, whining and complaining about it constantly simply emphasises exactly what a fool you are. They don't want to play with you? Find someone to play with that wants you.

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I have a couple problems with this argument, First, it assumes the original ban was valid which in my case and many others it isn't. It isn't within any individual admin's remit to decide whether a ban is valid based on some kind of ethical value judgement. A ban is valid so long as it is in force,...

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Many admins don't see it as black and whIte as all that. There are some users that, although blocked or banned, manage to evade the block and to avoid repeating the behavior that led to them being kicked out. This is the "quiet return" that Worm has an essay about. Many admins and other users see t...

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I understand unwanted's view of that, but from the overall objective of building an encyclopedia, should not each edit be considered on its own merits, since we have no reliable way of determining their source of any of them? We have a bit of a dilemma here. There is also the question of whether th...

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I'm not sure why Wikipedia admins are obsessed with banning editors who aren't doing Wikipedia any harm. Because they can, basically. In their defence, it could be argued that if someone has been banned, he or she is highly dangerous and everything humanly possible must be done to stop further edit...

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You cannot image how this opens my eyes. Off topic, but, I am wondering... is "image" now being used as a substitute for "imagine", similar to how I've begun seeing "in future" instead of "in the future"? It's a very good indicator of a Japanese person writing ESL. I haven't encountered it frequent...

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Well, we now have an interesting definition of personal attack: it's a personal attack to say that someone is not an idiot . Did you ask her about that? I thought that was pretty odd myself. I suppose the logic is that you'd only say that if there were some suggestion that she was an idiot. They tr...

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Well, we now have an interesting definition of personal attack: it's a personal attack to say that someone is not an idiot.

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I'm pretty sure FPaS doesn't care for me in the least, but I still recommended dealing with the case via motion instead of a case. I wasn't aware of the previous admonition, however. He's been called up to Arb more than once, he has to know he's on a bit of thin ice. The saving grace, to be perfect...

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Dennis Brown wrote:Maybe the contrast of how TRM handled it (which was surprisingly open)

One man's "open" is another man's "smarmy, slick, and disingenuous".

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Looking at the Colonel Warden drama, I have no idea why the default behaviour of Kww seems to be "block first, bring to AN/ANI later". Shouldn't it be the other way around? For an obvious case like a constantly deceitful person such as Andrew Davidson/Colonel Warden, the question that always came t...

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The community is very forgiving, assuming you first admit you are wrong. Your desysop was completely avoidable, and I kept waiting for you to at least agree to disagree, but you dug in, and had to know it would end that way. More than once I stated that if Arbcom found that BLP didn't prohibit the ...

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Looking at the Colonel Warden drama, I have no idea why the default behaviour of Kww seems to be "block first, bring to AN/ANI later". Shouldn't it be the other way around? For an obvious case like a constantly deceitful person such as Andrew Davidson/Colonel Warden, the question that always came t...

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No that's not exactly right. You lost the tools because of your longtime problematic conduct, especially on the edit filters and the TRM incident was the straw that broke the camels back. I'm certain that you found my conduct problematic, Kumioko, especially the part where I actually took the time ...

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Bother a sufficiently entrenched gang of "content creators", and it's a slaughterhouse for old-timers as well. In your case, (x3? x4?) Kev, as I recall the content creators were the likes of A Nobody and Ikip/Okip who had some kind of "every sperm byte is sacred" attitude to articles covering episo...

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Vigilant wrote: It's not as wild west, but you can see that anyone who bothers an entrenched gang is still dealt with fairly quickly.
ANI is still a slaughterhouse for newbies.

Bother a sufficiently entrenched gang of "content creators", and it's a slaughterhouse for old-timers as well.

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Hey! I successfully realized that nominating myself would lead to high blood pressure and misery. Good for me.

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Hawkeye is an interesting one. If elected, he would be at a disadvantage in some cases because not having the admin flag, he couldn't see deleted material etc. I believe it was once said that if a non-admin was elected they would be given the flag. But Hawkeye was actually desysopped under a cloud ...

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Hawkeye is an interesting one. If elected, he would be at a disadvantage in some cases because not having the admin flag, he couldn't see deleted material etc. I believe it was once said that if a non-admin was elected they would be given the flag. But Hawkeye was actually desysopped under a cloud ...

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Vigilant wrote:We should also make a hardcase/Judge Dredd slate.

Fram
Kww
Sandstein

Who else?

I think it would be interesting to see an Arbcom made up of people that actually read policies and enforced them. Might make a refreshing change.

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With all the removals going on because things "didn't meet the criteria for being on the evidence page", can someone explain to me what part of Dennis Brown's contribution can be considered evidence?

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Anthony765 wrote:@unwanted What do you mean by that I'm asking? Are you saying your against me? I'm a little confused. Can you reply as soon as you can so i can understand what you meant.

Don't worry about it. Your assistance has been invaluable.

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I remember Jaredgk2008. I remember him trying to help me out on other articles I was editing before I got banned, like Wayne Knight, Bill Fagerbakke, Pluto (The disney character), Ludwig Von Drake, and various others. Yes, I am FF2 by the way. I'm glad he tried to stand up for me against those horr...

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An attempt to add this reference under popular culture https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mexican_standoff&diff=next&oldid=687708708,was removed as "trivia". Surely these popular culture references are a major feature of Wikipedia, and if all the trivia are removed, the site would be notice...

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Ross McPherson wrote:
unwanted wrote:Why on earth would you consider a system that would tend to reward Eric Corbett a "good" system? Isn't that oxymoronic?
You want oxymoronic? I'll give you oxymoronic: a crowd sourced encyclopaedia that excludes people.

You really believe that every sperm is sacred?

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Ross McPherson wrote:What Wikipedia needs is a good system of promotions so everyone could vote Eric generally upwards rather than just outwards.

Why on earth would you consider a system that would tend to reward Eric Corbett a "good" system? Isn't that oxymoronic?

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Vigilant wrote:Nobody is talking about YOU. Nobody.

Actually, on this thread he was the Eric in question. Nice to see his use of verbal skills and subtle reasoning in his response.

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Now that that's out of the way, can someone please explain what "it's alliterative" was about? C olton C osmic. I have to admit I never knew Triptych was Colton Cosmic He had this bizarre thing of unsubtly referring as Triptych to his activities as Colton Cosmic (his Arbcom reform scheme thing) but...

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It all supports one of my basic beliefs about Wikipedia: the "privacy" policy is nothing but an illusion. Anyone that would risk any kind of harm to themselves by editing Wikipedia simply shouldn't edit Wikipedia. Given that, there should be no privacy policy. All edits should be, to the extent pos...

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Dude. They contacted his employer. Over wikipedia. Seriously? There are precedents for such action. Your right, its called outing! No, I mean a senior official contacting the employer of someone he suspected of being an editor he disliked. Sure, but that's not what happened. It wasn't the WMF or a ...

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Is there some particular reason that you think Wikipedia is CAPABLE of making anyone go away for any reason if they have a modicum of technical prowess? RfB It wouldn't take much to make it so that you at least needed some technical prowess. I don't consider the ability to unplug a cable modem to b...

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