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- Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:13 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
We don't want Arbcom making new policy, that is not their job. Their job is to arbitrate protracted problems that the community CAN'T solve, and find solutions that are equitable and put the interests of the Project first, using existing policy as a basis. Policy changes should happen by consensus ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:43 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Well, we done voted for this new thing. How in the hell are we actually going to do it?! Nice work ARBCOM... Also, what are the new rules, asks nearly everyone. :popcorn: We don't want Arbcom making new policy, that is not their job. Their job is to arbitrate protracted problems that the community ...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:41 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Thryduulf probably has the best take on all of this, which is why I've been bouncing comments with them on the talk pages. They try to have a balanced perspective of the "big picture", which I appreciate. Nihonjoe will surely lose his bits due to not disclosing, which I suppose is fair. That doesn'...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:33 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Thryduulf probably has the best take on all of this, which is why I've been bouncing comments with them on the talk pages. They try to have a balanced perspective of the "big picture", which I appreciate. Nihonjoe will surely lose his bits due to not disclosing, which I suppose is fair. That doesn't...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:25 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
I thought what he said here was a good example of boomer entitlement it also illustrates that dennis, despite years of exposure to the evidence, still does not understand that the vast bulk of the people who edit Wikipedia are under 25 and generally rely on others for their day to day sustenance a ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:43 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
This won't scan for anyone who edits Wikipedia with the right mindset, rather than as a COI editor who wants to edit without oversight in their conflicted areas as an integral part of their wider hobby editing. Being an expert doesn't mean you have a COI. I would argue that most experts do indeed h...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:21 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Editing your employer's or your company's article is over the line. Done. Dennis, I agree except for one thing. I don’t think any editor with a COI should edit articles directly. All conflicted editors should use talk pages instead.. I actually don't particularly have an issue with COI editors edit...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:27 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Editing your employer's or your company's article is over the line. Done. I beg to differ. I've edited the page started about my record label before and there was neither promotional intent nor effect. I'd do it again if I gave half a shit... Frankly, having Discogs up to date is about 10x more imp...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:44 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
The line has been drawn. Holding stock In a company requires you to declare your COI if you intend to edit related pages, and strongly discourages you from direct editing them. Why are you claiming differently? Where is your proof this is not the current stance of Wikipedia? Have you any examples w...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:23 am
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
- Replies: 818
- Views: 30989
Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
You guys crack me up. I'm amazed no one understands, intentionally or otherwise, why I said what I said, even though I said it plain as day. Everyone has a COI. Maybe if you live at home in your mom's basement, suckling off her retirement account, maybe then you don't, but everyone else has a COI of...
- Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: News from RFA
- Replies: 1034
- Views: 519209
Re: News from RFA
That Night Watch answer to question nine is way too much self-flagellation mixed with an over the top expression of remorse. And for what? The way Night Watch acted you would think someone died. True enough. It almost reads as parody and hopefully that's what it is. All the little churchladies kvet...
- Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:25 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Athaenara - Schadenfreude and Outrage
- Replies: 762
- Views: 129244
Re: Athaenara - Schadenfreude and Outrage
Meanwhile, the whole clusterfuck rolls ever onwards. As I hinted at above, this would never have happened in the way it did but for Wikipedia's significant number of editors that believe transphobia isn't on the same level as other bigotry; if Athaenara had objected to Isabel on the basis of her be...
- Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:12 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Athaenara - Schadenfreude and Outrage
- Replies: 762
- Views: 129244
Re: Athaenara - Schadenfreude and Outrage
If an admin starting trashing pro-life or any other conservative point, they wouldn't have been bit stripped and banned. The ones screaming tolerance have no tolerance for anyone who disagrees with them. Every single time it’s been said that this is being banned for a political viewpoint it gets mo...
- Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:16 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Athaenara - Schadenfreude and Outrage
- Replies: 762
- Views: 129244
Re: Athaenara - Schadenfreude and Outrage
After hesitating for a moment to even post in this thread for fear of putting my foot in my mouth again, given the extreme lack of tolerance in this matter, I note my discomfort with the blocking administrator, who in their second (controversial) request for adminship said I knew the reversal of an...
- Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:28 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: News from RFA
- Replies: 1034
- Views: 519209
Re: News from RFA
next up: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Z1720 , 6 days to go, looks like another easy pass, currently at 85/0. At the risk of being laughed out of the room, might I suggest that RFA, while far from perfect, might not actually be as critically broken as some have suggested, and that maybe the good...
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:57 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
This is torture. Better to indef him. Can't do that at AE directly. First offense is a max 30 days, subsequent is a max one year (with rare IAR exceptions). The community can indef block/ban him at ANI/AN, but not at AE. I recommended 1-2 week block, which is on the high side of my average first ti...
- Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:36 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Wikipedia's Credibility Is Toast
- Replies: 43
- Views: 9101
Re: Wikipedia's Credibility Is Toast
The title of this thread is flawed. Wikipedia is one of the largest website on the planet, maybe .0001% of ENWP readers know about this hoax. The unwashed masses don't care, they are too busy getting their news from memes on Facebook. Events like this don't even make a ripple, except in very small c...
- Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:27 pm
- Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
- Topic: Neelix banned
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3417
Re: Neelix banned
I ended up closing all of them that didn't have a delete vote. I probably could have closed those, but not worth the drama. The noms were in bad faith, and banned users aren't supposed to, well, anything at Wikipedia. Never was a fan of Neelix, think I chewed him out once back when he was an admin f...
- Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:33 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
There's actually some Arbcom precedent for the idea that an admin's recorded no-action decision on a report should indeed sometimes be treated as administrative action for WHEEL/AE purposes. One of the Corbett cases from 2015 said something along those lines. That is at AE only. The only place that...
- Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:13 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: News from RFA
- Replies: 1034
- Views: 519209
Re: News from RFA
If the RFA is civil and the vote tally is over 50% support, there's no need whatsoever to withdraw early "for the sake of making your next RFA smoother". It's not "for the sake of making your next RFA smoother", it's not wasting everyone's time and effort (including their own) on something that cle...
- Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:19 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
Deniss' closing of the thread... maybe less so. Forum shopping is frowned upon , and that is clearly what this was. If the only reason for closing was shooting the messenger I'd feel differently. What OTHER forums were shopped? Two other admin had been aware of the issue, Cullen had been working th...
- Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:30 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:34 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
Deniss' closing of the thread... maybe less so. Forum shopping is frowned upon , and that is clearly what this was. If the only reason for closing was shooting the messenger I'd feel differently. What OTHER forums were shopped? Two other admin had been aware of the issue, Cullen had been working th...
- Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:23 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
Two other admin had been aware of the issue, Cullen had been working the problem on the talk page, and they knew this, they just didn't like the outcome as there wasn't any sanction. The situation was already handled, the OP was blocked as a sock, the report was a second bite of the apple. It was p...
- Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:28 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
Deniss' closing of the thread... maybe less so. Forum shopping is frowned upon , and that is clearly what this was. If the only reason for closing was shooting the messenger I'd feel differently. What OTHER forums were shopped? Two other admin had been aware of the issue, Cullen had been working th...
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:27 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
When you're in more than one cult at a time. https://i.imgur.com/Dq0PVIu.png In his defense, most religions say that about themselves. I was raised in a strict Catholic home (I'm a recovered Catholic now). They pretty much say "we were the original, everyone else gets it wrong", and most every othe...
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:12 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
- Replies: 403
- Views: 39915
Re: Arbcom case: Conduct in Deletion Discussions
When you're in more than one cult at a time. https://i.imgur.com/Dq0PVIu.png In his defense, most religions say that about themselves. I was raised in a strict Catholic home (I'm a recovered Catholic now). They pretty much say "we were the original, everyone else gets it wrong", and most every othe...
- Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:23 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Another attempt to fix RfA
- Replies: 223
- Views: 15879
Re: Another attempt to fix RfA
One does wonder how Kingofa©es43 found out about a case at XRV concerning media & geopolitics given that he has not made a single contribution in that area this year. Anyone want to bet he just wants revenge? And get too close to Tony Ballioni & Mastcell at your own risk... lest those giant chips f...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:47 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: News from RFA
- Replies: 1034
- Views: 519209
Re: No News from RFA
meh. I popped around to several of the important admin boards, none of them are seriously backlogged. It's summer in much of the English-speaking world. Vandalism and general disruption tends to go down, people tend to be spending less time in front of a screen, it's fine. I was under the impressio...
- Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:13 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: News from RFA
- Replies: 1034
- Views: 519209
Re: No News from RFA
meh. I popped around to several of the important admin boards, none of them are seriously backlogged. It's summer in much of the English-speaking world. Vandalism and general disruption tends to go down, people tend to be spending less time in front of a screen, it's fine. I was under the impressio...
- Mon May 02, 2022 11:15 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tamzin RfA
- Replies: 278
- Views: 16298
Re: Tamzin RfA
Accidentally ran across this RFA, had to oppose. I have no use for Trump, (nor most politicians) but this is so far over the line. Admin have to deal with everyone, theoretically in an even handed manner, and I can't see this person acting as an admin in any political articles, not in a fair manner...
- Mon May 02, 2022 11:08 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tamzin RfA
- Replies: 278
- Views: 16298
Re: Tamzin RfA
Accidentally ran across this RFA, had to oppose. I have no use for Trump, (nor most politicians) but this is so far over the line. Admin have to deal with everyone, theoretically in an even handed manner, and I can't see this person acting as an admin in any political articles, not in a fair manner...
- Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:41 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Tamzin RfA
- Replies: 278
- Views: 16298
Re: Tamzin RfA
Accidentally ran across this RFA, had to oppose. I have no use for Trump, (nor most politicians) but this is so far over the line. Admin have to deal with everyone, theoretically in an even handed manner, and I can't see this person acting as an admin in any political articles, not in a fair manner.
- Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:26 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: RG2
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2758
Re: RG2
I forgot which way was up last week and manually blocked someone, didn't realize till after. Started looking for the right block template then realized I could still just use Twinkle and check "tag only". User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper is another game changer of you work noticeboards. I have to ad...
- Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:22 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: RG2
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2758
Re: RG2
Is jc37 okay? Good question. He's been rather nice to me lately, not that he isn't usually nice, he's just usually not in my areas, and he's found himself on my talk page a couple of times lately. He's always kind of kept to himself, which I understand as I do the same (more so as time goes by). Fo...
- Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:22 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: RG2
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2758
Re: RG2
Is jc37 okay? Good question. He's been rather nice to me lately, not that he isn't usually nice, he's just usually not in my areas, and he's found himself on my talk page a couple of times lately. He's always kind of kept to himself, which I understand as I do the same (more so as time goes by). Fo...
- Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:30 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: RG2
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2758
Re: RG2
I'm thinking back to a couple years ago or so, I could swear someone started an AN thread over a similar admin who had been doing this for years and it resulted in them either voluntarily giving up their tools or being desysopped. Might have been me, or at least took part. I tend to monitor these c...
- Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:49 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: RG2
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2758
Re: RG2
If I had to guess, I'd say this is one of those cases where a high-school student in 2005 got in on WP's first mass-adoption wave in 2005, had fun with it for a couple of years, then slacked off while in college and finally grew up, got an IT job at some company, maybe got married — and though he'd...
- Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:58 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: RG2
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2758
RG2
RG2 Was looking at an AFD and saw this name, didn't ring a bell, looked him up. Another admin who comes in yearly when he gets the email and makes a couple of edits. If you go back 50 edits, you are back to 2010. Actually, I think it only takes 40 edits to get back that far. The last time I found a...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:38 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Ifnord RfA
- Replies: 4
- Views: 702
Re: Ifnord RfA
It's 33-16 now, and withdrawn. Copyright concerns are pretty hard to overcome except with time. I'm not sure one year is even enough. Two years pass since a copyright issue, AND you've created a few nice things, it would probably still get a few opposes but you might pass. Copyright is just a death...
- Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:56 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Universal CoC
- Replies: 290
- Views: 23387
Re: Universal CoC
They have a nice little slush fund, so I can see throwing token amounts of money around for small things, although I'm not sure exactly what. Some free Chrome laptops, perhaps, to the most dutiful. Sycophant of the month awards, something like that.
- Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:28 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Universal CoC
- Replies: 290
- Views: 23387
Re: Universal CoCk
The WMF is stacked with passive-aggressive dipshits who will ratchet up the 'discomfort' in an attempt to make stay unpalatable. Tell me I'm wrong. On the contrary, I think you've hit it the nail on the head. And very direct people like me really piss off passive aggressive types. I fully expect so...
- Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:54 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Universal CoC
- Replies: 290
- Views: 23387
Re: Universal CoCk
This is not going to end well if they genuinely expect me to sign an affirmation pledging my undying love of the WMF in order to continue volunteering my time to help them. Without naming names, many are jack-asses and the group as a whole is dysfunctional except when it comes to preserving their o...
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:31 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Intelligence agencies want to learn about SPI
- Replies: 9
- Views: 874
Re: Intelligence agencies want to learn about SPI
I worked in SPI for a year. It was an interesting year, and still comprises the bulk of my blocks. Most socks are amazingly easy to catch. But there is (or at least was, that was 2013) a culture of secrecy, and for good reason. Any tips you give on how you matched up socks just means you are educati...
- Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:03 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Wikibreak during sanctions
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1166
Re: Wikibreak during sanctions
...I don't find it to be a safe assumption that the mere passage of time will make the person better able to contribute in that area without causing disruption. Of course not — the "sanction" will probably just make them angrier and compel them to come up with a fiendishly clever(er) way to get awa...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:25 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Wikibreak during sanctions
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1166
Re: Wikibreak during sanctions
As I stated in one of those discussions, wikibreaks do not modify the duration. More importantly, when you topic ban someone, it isn't just about spanking that person. What makes me support a topic ban is a slightly different standard: Will the "topic" be better off if they aren't allowed. Will the ...
- Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:40 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Carlossuarez46 Arbcom case
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2077
Re: Carlossuarez46 Arbcom case
Carlossuarez46 has retired seems serious not WP:DIVAS User with over a half a Million edits joined 2003 gone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#User:Carlossuarez46 On the surface, yet, but he also created many thousands upon thousands of stubs of dubious sourcing that have...
- Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:36 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: How admins (and other high-ranking Wikipedians) abuse power to block new users
- Replies: 51
- Views: 2375
Re: How admins (and other high-ranking Wikipedians) abuse power to block new users
I came here looking for tips. I feel cheated.
- Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:16 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Improving the desysopping process
- Replies: 276
- Views: 12471
Re: Improving the desysopping process
Many of us are not really fans of Fram and his style of doing things, and have been clear about that, even before ban. We weren't defending Fram, we were defending the autonomy of enwp. That point often gets lost. I guess 'us' includes you. Actually a couple of times he used his block hammer were f...
- Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:11 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Improving the desysopping process
- Replies: 276
- Views: 12471
Re: Improving the desysopping process
The FramBan became a huge drama not because the WMF banned an editor, but because the WMF banned an admin. I disagree - indeed, one of the first two bans the WMF handed out was on an admin. There was no uproar. The issue was the fact that Fram was banned from one site only - which took it away from...