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by Mancunium » Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:43 pm
Positive change
The Concordian. 9 April 2014
link[...] Search for Concordia-Moorhead on Google and you will see a sidebar that says our acceptance rate is 95 percent. That is both inaccurate and unimpressive. Prospective students with 4.0 GPAs know what their options are, and want to be surrounded by equally motivated and academic peers. A 95 percent acceptance rate does not exactly imply that they will find that at Concordia (even if they will). Look at our Wikipedia page and you will see an outdated endowment figure and that Mark Krejci is still our dean. Call Google and get the sidebar corrected, edit the Wikipedia page and add information to it that can help us, and find other third-party sources of information that we can keep from casting a bad image of this school. [...]
Or get the entire student body (2,784 undergraduates) to stage a massive Wikipedia edit-a-thon to turn Concordia College into the world's most prestigious academy.
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by Johnny Au » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:37 pm
Mancunium wrote:Positive change
The Concordian. 9 April 2014
link[...] Search for Concordia-Moorhead on Google and you will see a sidebar that says our acceptance rate is 95 percent. That is both inaccurate and unimpressive. Prospective students with 4.0 GPAs know what their options are, and want to be surrounded by equally motivated and academic peers. A 95 percent acceptance rate does not exactly imply that they will find that at Concordia (even if they will). Look at our Wikipedia page and you will see an outdated endowment figure and that Mark Krejci is still our dean. Call Google and get the sidebar corrected, edit the Wikipedia page and add information to it that can help us, and find other third-party sources of information that we can keep from casting a bad image of this school. [...]
Or get the entire student body (2,784 undergraduates) to stage a massive Wikipedia edit-a-thon to turn Concordia College into the world's most prestigious academy.
Concordia_College_(Moorhead,_Minnesota) (T-H-L)
What happened to
Wikipedia:BOOSTERISM (T-H-L)?
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by thekohser » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:42 pm
The Concordian wrote:Call Google and...
Good luck with that, Concordia!
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by Hex » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:30 pm
That reminds me that I'm long overdue to re-read
Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis.
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by TungstenCarbide » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:46 am
Hex wrote:That reminds me that I'm long overdue to re-read
Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis.
The word "Babbitt" entered the English language as a "person and especially a business or professional man who conforms unthinkingly to prevailing middle-class standards".
WTF
'Babbitt' entered the language as a word in 1850, unless Wikipedia knows more than the OED.
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by Newyorkbrad » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:03 am
TungstenCarbide wrote:Hex wrote:That reminds me that I'm long overdue to re-read
Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis.
The word "Babbitt" entered the English language as a "person and especially a business or professional man who conforms unthinkingly to prevailing middle-class standards".
WTF
'Babbitt' entered the language as a word in 1850, unless Wikipedia knows more than the OED.
Two different words with different origins.
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by TungstenCarbide » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:04 am
Newyorkbrad wrote:TungstenCarbide wrote:Hex wrote:That reminds me that I'm long overdue to re-read
Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis.
The word "Babbitt" entered the English language as a "person and especially a business or professional man who conforms unthinkingly to prevailing middle-class standards".
WTF
'Babbitt' entered the language as a word in 1850, unless Wikipedia knows more than the OED.
Two different words with different origins.
Same word, two different meanings, highly unlikely Sinclare was unaware, likely he was applying an allusion, origin probably related. Babbitt was more common back then.
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sigh ... to any knowledgeable person reading this book when published, their mind would be primed with the image of a bearing metal, easily melted and re-molded, after which it bears the load without galling.
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by EricBarbour » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:49 am
ACRIMSAT (T-H-L)
When someone first created it in
March 2007, it was short but adequate. Then, one of the scientists on the ACRIM project,
Dikstr (T-C-L), showed up and turned it into hash (with some help).
Best part: the article fails to mention that ACRIMSAT ran out of fuel years ago, and is now useless space junk --
threatening to
crash into
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by Poetlister » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:09 am
EricBarbour wrote:ACRIMSAT (T-H-L)
When someone first created it in
March 2007, it was short but adequate. Then, one of the scientists on the ACRIM project,
Dikstr (T-C-L), showed up and turned it into hash (with some help).
Best part: the article fails to mention that ACRIMSAT ran out of fuel years ago, and is now useless space junk --
threatening to
crash into
other spacecraft.
This might indicate that Wikipedians might occasionally have a point when they say that it is a bad thing for experts to write about their specialist subjects.
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by TungstenCarbide » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:27 am
EricBarbour wrote:ACRIMSAT (T-H-L)
When someone first created it in
March 2007, it was short but adequate. Then, one of the scientists on the ACRIM project,
Dikstr (T-C-L), showed up and turned it into hash (with some help).
Best part: the article fails to mention that ACRIMSAT ran out of fuel years ago, and is now useless space junk --
threatening to
crash into
other spacecraft.
Generally speaking, mobile satellites avoid the retired immobile satellites. It simply doesn't work the other way around, believe it or not.
What begs reality is the Europeans choosing to launch into that situation, did nobody fucking bother to check first?
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by Hex » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:49 am
Mud Lake (Highlands County, Florida) (T-H-L). I'm just going to quote the whole thing:
Text of Wikipedia article "Mud Lake (Highlands County, Florida)", by Wikipedia user Wpollard. Text licensed CC-BY-SA 3.0.
This particular
Mud Lake is located in Highlands County, Florida. "Mud Lake" is a very common name for lakes in the United States and Canada. Possibly 1,000 lakes are named Mud Lake in these two countries. Even in Florida at least twenty-three lakes are named "Mud Lake." The Highlands Ridge website refers to the area of the lake as
Paulie's Lake. The main body of this Mud Lake is oval in shape. This part of the lake measures 1,500 ft (457 m) by 1,000 ft (305 m). The tail is 750 ft (229 m) by 100 ft (30 m). Mud Lake's surface area is 32.5-acre (132,000 m2). This lake more resembles a swamp than it does a lake.
Highlands Ridge is retirement housing developments and two golf courses. The northern part of Highlands Ridge has housing just beyond the south side of Mud Lake. The northern Highlands Ridge golf course almost totally surrounds the lake. There is no public road access to this lake, as Highlands Ridge is a gated community. HookandBullet.Com provides a bit of fishing information. It says the lake contains sturgeon, gar and bluegill.
That's it. Amazing.
All part of the hard work of
Wpollard (T-C-L) in 2011... along with the rest of
Category:Lakes of Highlands County, Florida (T-H-L).
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by thekohser » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:13 pm
Have you ever been to Mud Lake? That may be all that needs to be said about it.
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by enwikibadscience » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:27 pm
Hex wrote:Mud Lake (Highlands County, Florida) (T-H-L). I'm just going to quote the whole thing:
Text of Wikipedia article "Mud Lake (Highlands County, Florida)", by Wikipedia user Wpollard. Text licensed CC-BY-SA 3.0.
This particular
Mud Lake is located in Highlands County, Florida. "Mud Lake" is a very common name for lakes in the United States and Canada. Possibly 1,000 lakes are named Mud Lake in these two countries. Even in Florida at least twenty-three lakes are named "Mud Lake." The Highlands Ridge website refers to the area of the lake as
Paulie's Lake. The main body of this Mud Lake is oval in shape. This part of the lake measures 1,500 ft (457 m) by 1,000 ft (305 m). The tail is 750 ft (229 m) by 100 ft (30 m). Mud Lake's surface area is 32.5-acre (132,000 m2). This lake more resembles a swamp than it does a lake.
Highlands Ridge is retirement housing developments and two golf courses. The northern part of Highlands Ridge has housing just beyond the south side of Mud Lake. The northern Highlands Ridge golf course almost totally surrounds the lake. There is no public road access to this lake, as Highlands Ridge is a gated community. HookandBullet.Com provides a bit of fishing information. It says the lake contains sturgeon, gar and bluegill.
That's it. Amazing.
All part of the hard work of
Wpollard (T-C-L) in 2011... along with the rest of
Category:Lakes of Highlands County, Florida (T-H-L).
HookandBullet columnist?
"HookandBullet.Com provides a bit of fishing information. It says the lake contains sturgeon, gar and bluegill."
That's awesome.
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by EricBarbour » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:36 am
I have a perfect example of Wikipedia dropping the ball, badly.
List of hospitals in Nevada (T-H-L)
The few articles that are in this list are all crap stubs.
Rawson-Neal Hospital (T-H-L) was especially WTF.
You'll find more of this in
List of hospitals in the United States (T-H-L). Some are okay, some are useless, many are missing articles. Heilman and his bunnies don't seem to care.
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by Kelly Martin » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:42 pm
Wikipedians, as a whole, are largely ignorant of businesses other than those that explicitly market to twenty-somethings, and so health care institutions (not being a market segment that routinely markets to twenty-somethings) generally don't get much coverage at Wikipedia. But every so often someone will get a list of the largest businesses in some region (often a state) and go down it, creating short articles for any missing entries. Which then get ignored, because editing the article about a regional hospital or an insurance company is boring and no fun.
If a hospital has an even halfway decent Wikipedia article, it'll generally be because it's either a children's hospital or a teaching hospital; the former get attention from their patients who also edit Wikipedia, and the latter from their students who also edit Wikipedia. The hospital that just sent us a "statement" for $130,000+ actually has two articles on Wikipedia, one for its current name and new location, and one for its former name and old location. The new article (
Lurie Children's Hospital (T-H-L)) reads like a regurgitated press release. But check out the last sentence of the lead of the old one (
Children's Memorial Hospital (T-H-L)).
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by Johnny Au » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:48 pm
I work for
Holland Bloorview Kids Rehabilitation Hospital (T-H-L) as a Research Assistant.
I edited that article a long time ago, but it was not to promote the hospital as per
WP:COI (T-H-L).
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by thekohser » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:37 pm
I don't know...
Since 2006, the hospital is located on 150 Kilgour Road, between [[Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre]] and the community of [[Leaside]].
Why don't you give the disabled kids' parents driving directions and mention that Holland Bloorview offers 20-minute free parking for drop offs?
Sounds pretty promotional to me!
(I'm just messing with you.)
But, that being said, do you support the right of paid editors to edit Wikipedia in a non-promotional manner, without harassment?
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by Peryglus » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:57 pm
Depends whether they have declared their being-paid-ness.
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by thekohser » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:31 pm
Peryglus wrote:Depends whether they have declared their being-paid-ness.
So, exactly what I proposed to do in July 2006, but for which I was banned by Jimmy Wales in October 2006? Got it.
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by Poetlister » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:54 pm
thekohser wrote:Peryglus wrote:Depends whether they have declared their being-paid-ness.
So, exactly what I proposed to do in July 2006, but for which I was banned by Jimmy Wales in October 2006? Got it.
Wikipedia policy, always improving.
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by enwikibadscience » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:54 pm
Philosophers and scientists begin with Ahmed, an historian and diplomat, and Ahmet, a sociologist, legist and historian...
On the other hand, photographers...
I always feel badly when we have such major crap on en.Wikipedia about non-English topics, but I am learning to accept it better knowing the level of main page science crap en.Wikipedia promotes.
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Technological dualism (T-H-L)
My immediate thought was that this was written by a college student or someone whose first language isn't English. I was right on both counts.
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by EricBarbour » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:20 am
Did we cover
Steve Kennedy (T-H-L) yet? If not.....
Stephen "Steve" Kennedy (born 22 July 1965) is a retired English professional footballer who played as a full back. Not to be confused with Steve Kennedy the 28 year old dental student at Roseman University of Health Sciences (2014).
Been there since 9 April. "Vandalism is fixed instantly" MY ASS.
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by Hex » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:20 am
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by Poetlister » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:15 pm
EricBarbour wrote:Did we cover
Steve Kennedy (T-H-L) yet? If not.....
Stephen "Steve" Kennedy (born 22 July 1965) is a retired English professional footballer who played as a full back. Not to be confused with Steve Kennedy the 28 year old dental student at Roseman University of Health Sciences (2014).
Been there since 9 April. "Vandalism is fixed instantly" MY ASS.
No doubt someone will be along shortly to turn it into a disambiguation page.
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by Johnny Au » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:29 pm
Countermovement (T-H-L)
It looks exactly like a high school essay.
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by enwikibadscience » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:37 pm
You mean it's of higher quality than a lot of en.Wikipedia articles?
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by enwikibadscience » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:38 pm
enwikibadscience wrote:
You mean it's of higher quality than a lot of en.Wikipedia articles?
This is one of my favorite article introductory sentences,
"By definition, a countermovement in sociology means a social movement opposed to another social movement."
What does it mean outside of sociology?
It's like the "this phylum is a member of this phylum" opening for biology articles, another favorite.
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by Johnny Au » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:54 pm
I bet that the Countermovement article is written by someone between high school junior and college freshman who has to write up a Wikipedia article as part of an assignment.
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by Peryglus » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:13 pm
Johnny Au wrote:I bet that the Countermovement article is written by someone between high school junior and college freshman who has to write up a Wikipedia article as part of an assignment.
It was
Chuyshlomohillel (T-C-L) who added most of the content, in 2010.
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by enwikibadscience » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:17 pm
Johnny Au wrote:I bet that the Countermovement article is written by someone between high school junior and college freshman who has to write up a Wikipedia article as part of an assignment.
I feel Sandy Georgia's irritation on school assignment articles. It creates a lot of work for dedicated editors (if there really are any who aren't just sock puppets of other badly behaved and banned or vanished users) and contributes crap (as if there is something else).
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by Johnny Au » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:22 pm
Peryglus wrote:Johnny Au wrote:I bet that the Countermovement article is written by someone between high school junior and college freshman who has to write up a Wikipedia article as part of an assignment.
It was
Chuyshlomohillel (T-C-L) who added most of the content, in 2010.
I took a look at that user's contributions and he/she only made edits to that article, making me suspect that it is a school assignment and nothing else.
enwikibadscience wrote:I feel Sandy Georgia's irritation on school assignment articles. It creates a lot of work for dedicated editors (if there really are any who aren't just sock puppets of other badly behaved and banned or vanished users) and contributes crap (as if there is something else).
I get very irritated at "school assignment articles" who only write articles on Wikipedia for grades rather than to be a Wikipedian.
Even C-class and most Start-class Wikipedia articles don't have conclusion sections, let alone those that are B-class and higher.
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by Johnny Au » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:31 pm
If you take a look at the talk page of
Countermovement (T-H-L), it says that the article is also American-biased, as if non-American countermovements don't exist.
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by thekohser » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:39 pm
Johnny Au wrote:I get very irritated at "school assignment articles" who only write articles on Wikipedia for grades rather than to be a Wikipedian.
You should quit Wikipedia in protest. Or, perhaps suicide-bomb a professor's classroom that is participating in the Wiki Education program.
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by Johnny Au » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:01 pm
thekohser wrote:Johnny Au wrote:I get very irritated at "school assignment articles" who only write articles on Wikipedia for grades rather than to be a Wikipedian.
You should quit Wikipedia in protest. Or, perhaps suicide-bomb a professor's classroom that is participating in the Wiki Education program.
The Wiki Education program is not well implemented. Professors need to understand how to write Wikipedia articles properly and study the featured and good articles, rather than structure them as essays.
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by thekohser » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:36 pm
Johnny Au wrote:The Wiki Education program is not well implemented. Professors need to understand how to write Wikipedia articles properly and study the featured and good articles, rather than structure them as essays.
Many Wikipedia articles read as essays, so why should the professors do anything different?
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by Kelly Martin » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:26 pm
Johnny Au wrote:The Wiki Education program is not well implemented. Professors need to understand how to write Wikipedia articles properly and study the featured and good articles, rather than structure them as essays.
Dare I suggest that the real problem is that Wikipedia is not well implemented, and that it is Wikipedians, not professors, that need to understand how to write encyclopedia articles properly?
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by enwikibadscience » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:11 pm
Kelly Martin wrote:Johnny Au wrote:The Wiki Education program is not well implemented. Professors need to understand how to write Wikipedia articles properly and study the featured and good articles, rather than structure them as essays.
Dare I suggest that the real problem is that Wikipedia is not well implemented, and that it is Wikipedians, not professors, that need to understand how to write encyclopedia articles properly?
Please dare. Then get in the fly line--->
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Feeldoe (T-H-L) (NSFW)
Why does this patented adult toy deserve a product placement on wikipedia? It's been there for two years, and the only references are to the patent and the product's website.
And why did a professional photographer upload such a crappy image to illustrate it?
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by thekohser » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:03 am
tarantino wrote:Why does this patented adult toy deserve a product placement on wikipedia?
My guess is because Bomis, Inc. was an early seed capital investor in the company?
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by Zoloft » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:13 am
Punching the 'random article' button led me here:
John Petherick (T-H-L)
This fellow's story is much better told elsewhere than at Wikipedia, so I tossed a couple of sources on the talk page. Perhaps on a cold rainy day I will come back and expand it.
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by Hex » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:15 am
tarantino wrote:Feeldoe (T-H-L) (NSFW)
Why does this patented adult toy deserve a product placement on wikipedia? It's been there for two years, and the only references are to the patent and the product's website.
Given that the creator of the article,
PennyWyse (T-C-L), added a redlink to the toy's inventor, and has been linking to the article from other sex articles, perhaps this should be in the
obvious paid editors thread.
tarantino wrote:And why did a professional photographer upload such a crappy image to illustrate it?
You think that
Wikijimmy(T-C-F-L) is a professional photographer??
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by thekohser » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:37 am
Hex wrote:tarantino wrote:And why did a professional photographer upload such a crappy image to illustrate it?
You think that
Wikijimmy(T-C-F-L) is a professional photographer??
Indeed not. The caption on the photo -- "Took it in our bedroom", on top of perhaps the most ghastly circa-1978 beach towel ever.
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by Hex » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:42 am
thekohser wrote:
Indeed not. The caption on the photo -- "Took it in our bedroom", on top of perhaps the most ghastly circa-1978 beach towel ever.
The towel, plus the detail about it being in their bedroom, definitely falls under too much information.
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by thekohser » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:22 pm
Hex wrote:thekohser wrote:
Indeed not. The caption on the photo -- "Took it in our bedroom", on top of perhaps the most ghastly circa-1978 beach towel ever.
The towel, plus the detail about it being in their bedroom, definitely falls under too much information.
This is why Wikipedia is one of the funniest sites on the Internet. I enjoy it at least as much as The Onion or Fark.com.
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by The Adversary » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:12 pm
tarantino wrote:Feeldoe (T-H-L) (NSFW)
Why does this patented adult toy deserve a product placement on wikipedia? It's been there for two years, and the only references are to the patent and the product's website.
And why did a professional photographer upload such a crappy image to illustrate it?
Or as Woody Allen would put it: “The food is terrible—and such small portions!”
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by tarantino » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:49 pm
thekohser wrote:Hex wrote:tarantino wrote:And why did a professional photographer upload such a crappy image to illustrate it?
You think that
Wikijimmy(T-C-F-L) is a professional photographer??
Indeed not. The caption on the photo -- "Took it in our bedroom", on top of perhaps the most ghastly circa-1978 beach towel ever.
I was confused because
this photo of a wmf advisory board member has listed as the author a professional photographer, with Wikijimmy underneath.
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by EricBarbour » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:48 am
He's probably one of her little buddies from Metafilter, given how Madame West has
handled her Wikipedia coverage before.....
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by Hex » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:02 pm
It used to say "Uploaded by Wikijimmy", until
this "cleanup" edit. Fail. I've simply removed it now.
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