Thank you, Kaldari (T-C-L).Disclaimer[edit]
I'm an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, but also a regular Wikipedia editor. Unless otherwise stated, any edit to Wikimedia projects by myself is an act of a regular member of the community and administrator, not a legal or official action of the Foundation.
Risker? LOL!Vigilant wrote:Are there no noble protagonists that we can like in this wild west drama?
You reckon they should know?thekohser wrote:I am amused that an administrator of the English Wikipedia and employee of the Wikimedia Foundation does not know how to spell the word "reckon".
Lol.Zoloft wrote:Arse longa, Vox brevis.
The tone of the confession was awesome! Be nice!Triptych wrote:A few points on "Kaldari."
1) His or her WP:AN/ANI "confession" portrays him or her as having some sort of crisis of conscience and seeking to hold himself or herself to an high administrator standard (chuckle) but other public comments in the record make clear that Kaldari was busted for socking a couple or three days in an open & shut case with checkuser evidence. So like someone in the discussion already stated, it appears Kaldari decided to leap before being pushed. The nobility tone of the confession thus actually rings quite the scoundrel the more that becomes known.
One of Sarah's neighbors?2) The public should be allowed to know "Kaldari's" actual name because he or she is an employee of WMF, a public charity. Anyone? His or her userpage only says he or she resides in Oakland, California, USA.
Enquiring minds would really like an answer to this one.
3)How inept and computer-clueless are the people WMF is hiring?
Lol. There is something behind that "confession," and the whole incident, that does not ring the least true.Michaeldsuarez wrote:Isn't this just a means for Kaldari to make Eric Corbett look bad? "I'm a powerful admin who bravely exposed my own sockpuppetry, but trust me when I say that I was fearing for my life just a few days ago." Are people really supposed to buy into that? Are we really supposed to believe that Kaldari was too afraid to report Eric as "Kaldari"? "Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of? I agree with what Giano said. Am I being too cynical? No, I don't believe so.
Have you seen VisualEditor and Flow?3)How inept and computer-clueless are the people WMF is hiring?
Ryan Kaldari (T-C-L) is his WMF account.Triptych wrote:2) The public should be allowed to know "Kaldari's" actual name because he or she is an employee of WMF, a public charity. Anyone? His or her userpage only says he or she resides in Oakland, California, USA.
Yes.Vigilant wrote:
Are DMV employees allowed to drive drunk but must give up there right to cut in line?
Wait, so Ryan Kaldari is not his real name?Michaeldsuarez wrote:"Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of?
Lukeno94 wrote:Hmm. That WMF account reveals an interesting circumvention of general consensus and policy, where the WMF ran a non-community approve bot: diff. That note was reverted a minute later, and I'm surprised it wasn't oversighted.
At least he's a real editor who knows how to write...so we apologize for the unorthodoxed action.
Sorry, I posted my comment after reading Triptych's comment. I'm not too familiar with this individual.thekohser wrote:Wait, so Ryan Kaldari is not his real name?Michaeldsuarez wrote:"Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of?
Also, according to Wikipedia, the motto of the Ludwig von Mises Institute (T-H-L).Triptych wrote:I took the liberty of using a web-translator to decode the Latin at Vox Brevis' (the Kaldari sock) userpage. "Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito" is "Yield not to misfortunes, but advance more boldly against them."
Huh. I would not have guessed he was a fan.Jim wrote:Also, according to Wikipedia, the motto of the Ludwig von Mises Institute (T-H-L).Triptych wrote:I took the liberty of using a web-translator to decode the Latin at Vox Brevis' (the Kaldari sock) userpage. "Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito" is "Yield not to misfortunes, but advance more boldly against them."
Maybe he's not. It's from the Aeneid, parts of which I was actually forced to read in Latin at school (far too long ago for me to remember any of it), so it might be a generic quote, in wider use.Mason wrote:Huh. I would not have guessed he was a fan.Jim wrote:Also, according to Wikipedia, the motto of the Ludwig von Mises Institute (T-H-L).Triptych wrote:I took the liberty of using a web-translator to decode the Latin at Vox Brevis' (the Kaldari sock) userpage. "Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito" is "Yield not to misfortunes, but advance more boldly against them."
You just know things are going to get interesting when Vigilant is quoting Deadwood.[Jack has just been found not-guilty of killing Wild Bill Hickock]
Al Swearengen: What's your name, it's Jack, ain't it?
Jack McCall: Yes, sir! You buy me a drink, I'll make my mark.
Al Swearengen: Stick around camp, Jack- I'll make mine for you.
Jack McCall: What in the hell is that supposed to mean?
Al Swearengen: Means there's a horse waiting for you outside you'll want to get on before somebody murders you who gives a fuck about right and wrong- or I do.
[Jack stares, dumbfounded]
Al Swearengen: It's the paint, Jack. Right outside my joint.
[whispering]
Al Swearengen: Run for your fucking life.
Regarding a conversation where he mostly agreed with me that the Wikimedia Foundation and the Wikipedia community are mostly helpless to stop paid editing of Wikipedia, he closes with:That page is so full of misinformation, it hardly warrants commentary...
Regarding a proposal to restore my rights to post to Foundation-l mailing list:I still believe that Kohs has gone far beyond being a useful
critic. Yes, he has points that are worth discussion, but that doesn't
mean we have to overlook his disruptive behavior. He clearly has an axe
to grind and intends to grind it. We don't have to facilitate that.
Regarding my critique of his "WikiLove" program:If you guys want to invite Kohs back to the list, I'll be happy to
unsubscribe myself.
Regarding a survey that the WMF hosted, where any respondent could complete the survey as many times as he or she liked, and could forward it to as many friends as they wanted, because it was a one-URL-welcomes-all sampling design, Kaldari was asked, "Would you still contend that the survey was constructed in a way that would minimize skewed results?":I'm not sure why you expect to get any sympathy from me. You insulted my work on every major tech blog on the internet. And as usual, it was with misinformation and insinuation, not facts. I'm sure you don't actually care, but the Wikimedia Foundation didn't waste millions of dollars on developing WikiLove. It was a project that I built on my own initiative, on my own time, as a volunteer. (I work for the fundraising department, not features development.) The Foundation endorsed it and asked me to add a few features, but they certainly didn't waste a lot of money on it. If you thought it was a dumb project, fine, but using it to criticize the Foundation was just adding insult to injury.
Regarding the "blackout" of the Italian Wikipedia:Yes, since the survey specifically asks how how those people use and
interact with Wikipedia. If your friends are not active users of
Wikipedia, the results would show that. If they are active users and
contributors then their opinions would be weighted accordingly.
Note: Kelly Martin responded to that notion...The WMF isn't allowed to lobby for or against legislation, per our 501c3
non-profit status in the US.
So, it's kind of like a fraternal organization that spends some of its money on helping kids with cancer, but most of the money goes to the big festivals and dinner parties for the members to "network" with one another. Got it, Ryan. Got it.The reason Charity Navigator gives the Wikimedia Foundation 1 star for organizational efficiency is because we spend a very small percentage of our funds (virtually none) directly on educational resources (our service/product). Instead we spend the money on developing software and supporting our volunteer community since they are the ones who create the educational resources. The is the opposite of what philanthropic donors traditionally look for in a non-profit. Traditionally, you want as much of your money as possible to go directly towards the end product or service. You don't want a thousand middlemen all taking a cut. In our case, however, the thousand middlemen are all unpaid volunteers, so it doesn't make a difference. Thus our organizational "inefficiency" is actually a strength rather than a weakness.
His birth name appears to be Ryan C. Smith, but he's been using Ryan Kaldari since 2003.thekohser wrote:Wait, so Ryan Kaldari is not his real name?Michaeldsuarez wrote:"Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of?
Well, since people started with the Google translate, try this:tarantino wrote:His birth name appears to be Ryan C. Smith, but he's been using Ryan Kaldari since 2003.thekohser wrote:Wait, so Ryan Kaldari is not his real name?Michaeldsuarez wrote:"Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of?
Middle name...and I SHIT YOU NOT...Corbetttarantino wrote:His birth name appears to be Ryan C. Smith, but he's been using Ryan Kaldari since 2003.thekohser wrote:Wait, so Ryan Kaldari is not his real name?Michaeldsuarez wrote:"Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of?
Oh, I'm going to bed before we get to the lost lovechild bit.Vigilant wrote:Middle name...and I SHIT YOU NOT...Corbetttarantino wrote:His birth name appears to be Ryan C. Smith, but he's been using Ryan Kaldari since 2003.thekohser wrote:Wait, so Ryan Kaldari is not his real name?Michaeldsuarez wrote:"Kaldari" is a pseudonym, not a real name, so what exactly was Kaldari afraid of?
It's sourced from Kaldari's blog, angelblade.com. He said he legally changed his name.thekohser wrote:I'll note that Tarantino's and Vigilant's information above provided no evidence that we can document. I'm very uncomfortable about this site being used to "name" people without any documentary support.
Thank you, Tarantino.tarantino wrote:It's sourced from Kaldari's blog, angelblade.com. He said he legally changed his name.thekohser wrote:I'll note that Tarantino's and Vigilant's information above provided no evidence that we can document. I'm very uncomfortable about this site being used to "name" people without any documentary support.
Ajraddatz wrote:Why does this person work for the WMF? This isn't the first wiki that Kaldari has created a sockfarm on either, see en.wikiquote. I say get the WMF to cease paying them, and remove any advanced permissions, since they obviously can't be trusted with them. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Obviously.Mason wrote:Ajraddatz wrote:Why does this person work for the WMF? This isn't the first wiki that Kaldari has created a sockfarm on either, see en.wikiquote. I say get the WMF to cease paying them, and remove any advanced permissions, since they obviously can't be trusted with them. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the only appropriate quote I can think of from The Real Virgil rather than that old author is: "He's not going to make it."Jim wrote:
I think it's from Virgil (the Roman one, not the Thunderbirds pilot...)
Fuck you, Ryan. Just ... fuck you.Eric didn't say anything about the suicide victim. He was belittling the tragedy of the suicide and criticizing the ensuing outpouring of sympathy. I doubt Eric even knew who the victim was. Kaldari (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Do we really need those images in here?
Yes. Yes we do.Yes, if you look at partial evidence, you will probably come to the wrong conclusion. If you look at Eric's statements in the context of the discussion, it is clear that he is belittling the suicide. For example, in response to people's comments about how saddened they are by the editor's death, Eric replies that "People commit suicide every day."[5] Yes, that is a factual statement, but in context it is belittling (as it downplays the importance of this particular suicide). Saying that something "happens every day" makes it sound less important. Making something sound less important is the definition of "belittling". Kaldari (talk) 21:20, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Unless it's Eric Corbett and in that case, fuck him!3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. Like most active editors, I've been in a few editing conflicts, mostly NPOV disputes. I practice the one-revert rule though, so I'm generally not a party to edit wars. I often try to find compromises between conflicting parties, and I always discuss any conflicts on the discussion pages. I've found that even the most stubborn POV-pushers can be reasonable if you're patient enough to negotiate. And of course keeping an open mind helps.
I would appreciate that, also, while granting they were posted with purpose.Lukeno94 wrote:I don't doubt that he's a shitbag, based on this evidence, but I think for NSFW purposes it would be best to put them in a spoiler hatting or something.
I'll hide the one with the tit in it. Fair?Lukeno94 wrote:I don't doubt that he's a shitbag, based on this evidence, but I think for NSFW purposes it would be best to put them in a spoiler hatting or something.
He's still paying the registration fees as of 2013... well after he started working for the WMF.Kelly Martin wrote:I have to say that snuffster.com looks to be an extremely tasteless site. It looks like Kaldari originally registered it back in 2002 or 2003, and it's possible that he's no longer actively involved in it, but if he's not his failure to disassociate himself from it ought to be viewed as problematic, at the very least. He certainly has no business lecturing other people on issues related to suicide or death.
Can you hat them, but leave them all?Vigilant wrote:I'll hide the one with the tit in it. Fair?Lukeno94 wrote:I don't doubt that he's a shitbag, based on this evidence, but I think for NSFW purposes it would be best to put them in a spoiler hatting or something.
You assume they're being vetted. Why?Vigilant wrote:Which gets me back to another gripe.
Who in the hell is vetting these people prior to hiring them?!?!
How hard would it be to run someone's name through google before offering them a damn job?!
Off all the departments within WMF, Human Resources has to be doing the worst job of them all.
And they're up against some pretty stiff competition from Engineering.
This is the organization that made Carolyn Doran Chief Operating Officer despite a prior theft conviction. It's obvious that the only criterion for employment at the WMF is an unswerving dedication to the "awesomeness" of Wikipedia.Vigilant wrote:Which gets me back to another gripe.
Who in the hell is vetting these people prior to hiring them?!?!
sigh ... life is a series of tests.Kelly Martin wrote:I have to say that snuffster.com looks to be an extremely tasteless site. It looks like Kaldari originally registered it back in 2002 or 2003, and it's possible that he's no longer actively involved in it, but if he's not his failure to disassociate himself from it ought to be viewed as problematic, at the very least. He certainly has no business lecturing other people on issues related to suicide or death.
