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Michaeldsuarez
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Wkipedia's "Barbara Lerner Spectre" article has an unsourced "controversy" section. The only people who believe that there's a controversy are white nationalists (e.g. the people running Metapedia). Even if sources exist, it's the opinion of a fringe group and shouldn't included. The "Controversy" section of the article, as well as the "In 2010 ..." paragraph, should be removed. P.S. Metapedia's article on Barbara Spectre was created by "Basileus", who writes hit pieces on Metapedia, including articles on eleven Wikipedians. What do we know about "Basileus"? Was he or she a former Wikipedian? What motivated him or her into creating articles on so many Wikipedians?
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Lukeno94
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Sorted.
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enwikibadscience
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 |  |  |  | Michaeldsuarez wrote: Wkipedia's "Barbara Lerner Spectre" article has an unsourced "controversy" section. The only people who believe that there's a controversy are white nationalists (e.g. the people running Metapedia). Even if sources exist, it's the opinion of a fringe group and shouldn't included. The "Controversy" section of the article, as well as the "In 2010 ..." paragraph, should be removed. P.S. Metapedia's article on Barbara Spectre was created by "Basileus", who writes hit pieces on Metapedia, including articles on eleven Wikipedians. What do we know about "Basileus"? Was he or she a former Wikipedian? What motivated him or her into creating articles on so many Wikipedians? |  |  |  |  |
Hey! It was sourced to a YouTube video. Ease up! 
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enwikibadscience
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And briefly socking as JeffLB (T-C-L)?
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Michaeldsuarez
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Michaeldsuarez
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Besides some shared interest in certain topics, I don't see any connection between JeffLB and Basileus.
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Michaeldsuarez
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Michaeldsuarez
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enwikibadscience
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I looked up Basileus, and it appears that he/she does a lot of white supremacist promotions, the basic areas that JeffLB edited on en.Wikipedia. However, just speculation from a quick glance.
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enwikibadscience
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As Wikipedia plagiarizes so much of its content, similarity of style is difficult to use; but, the day after account creation is a nice observation.
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Michaeldsuarez
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culeaker
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Am I the only person who finds the idea of an ED admin worrying about BLP violations to be totally surreal?
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Lukeno94
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Given that the picture of me with a pisstaking caption was taken off there without any requests from me, not entirely.
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Zoloft
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Wikipediocracy is a big tent.
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EricBarbour
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And ED is fading slowly away, don't forget.......
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Michaeldsuarez
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Michaeldsuarez
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The userboxes of Yorkshirian's sockpuppet Gennarous: Note the presence of fascist Golden Dawn symbol. "Basileus" was the title used by the Byzantine Emperors. The "Gennarous" account also engaged in edit wars with Cberlet, and Basileus later created a Metapedia hit piece on Chip Berlet.
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Lukeno94
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What a surprise. JeffLB (T-C-L), who inserted the quote in the first place, diff, wandered back after a period of not editing for nearly three months to revert me, diff, and didn't even bother to leave an edit summary.
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Lukeno94
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And is constantly re-adding it. Yey.
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Michaeldsuarez
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Try communicating with him. He already started a talk page discussion. If that doesn't work, there's already the BLP noticeboard. Yes, she said stuff, but it isn't Wikipedia's job to record every word a person's says. Wikipedia should only contain information on notable events. JeffLB's claims that the video is notable enough to include is original research; there needs to be reliable, secondary sources.
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Michaeldsuarez
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Mancunium
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Good research, good article.
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EricBarbour
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Michaeldsuarez
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Michaeldsuarez
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That article was written by conspiracy theorist Patrick Haseldine who apparently hangs out with and absorbs the ideas of other Internet conspiracy theorists. He apparently believes that SlimVirgin's real name is Morag Kerr rather than Linda Mack. Eric, I wouldn't place too much faith in what he or WikiSpooks has to say. WikiSpooks is a wiki for crazy ideas and crazy people.
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eppur si muove
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AhemMorag once bought her mother Anne_Sharp (T-H-L) a then new biography of Anne's former colleague Benjamin Britten. A few day's later Anne rung Morag to say how shocking it was that certain things were suggested about "Ben and Peter" (Pears). She had always thought that they were simply not the marrying type. Anne was the clergy-marrying type. I do wonder what she would have thought of various Wikipedia and Commons-types.
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Michaeldsuarez
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A Wikipedian called "Hannibalcaesar" recently posted a comment on the talk page. Look at the contents of Hannibalcaesar's userpage: And that's just the stuff that he or she didn't recently remove from his or her userpage. Here's the content that Hannibalcaesar posted to his userpage but recently tried to conceal: I hope that the Wikipedians are wise enough to not allow neo-Nazis such as Hannibalcaesar influence the article.
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thekohser
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As the resident Wikipediocracy sexist, let me fix that for you... it's a "he". Women aren't so disgusting as that.
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Michaeldsuarez
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Results, although I can't be certain whether Lizzy_B52 acted because I bumped this thread back to the top of the sub-forum or not. @Lizzy_B52: If you're reading this, thank you.
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Coat of Many Colours
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You look too short-sighted to me to know the difference, K. Some sort of cogenital problem I should imagine (that's not a spelling mistake).
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Michaeldsuarez
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JeffLB is back and is reverting Lizzy_B52's good work. All of JeffLB's revisions and comments to enwiki since May 2013 had been connected to that video. He's been at this (and nothing else) for nearly a year. JeffLB is presently a single-purpose, POV-pushing account, and enwiki's moderators ought to treat him as such. JeffLB is obviously a crypto-neo-Nazi; otherwise, he wouldn't be so obsessed with trying to insert information about an obscure video that only neo-Nazis care and complain about into the article.
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Poetlister
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But if you don't allow crypto-neo-Nazis to introduce their viewpoint into articles, how can NPOV be upheld?
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