Scott5114 wrote:Mancunium wrote:Obviously the Wikimedia Foundation, which owns Croatian Wikipedia, could lock it down until the Croatian police determine whether the site's operators violate Croatia's laws prohibiting hate speech and the glorification of fascism, Nazism, and genocide.
Wikimedia servers and offices are in the US, so it is my understanding that generally the Foundation operates its sites under US and Florida law. Apparently some Wikipedias do operate under the laws of other countries, i.e. the Japanese Wikipedia follows Japanese law (so no fair use images). My guess is that this is a decision that was made by the community on jp.wikipedia. I don't know if Croatian Wikipedia has elected to follow Croatian law or the default US law.
The people who control Croatian Wikipedia are expected to follow Croatian law. They are Croatian citizens and residents of Croatia, and have felt free to identify themselves publicly. They may believe that the Wikimedia Foundation will protect them from prosecution, but there is ample evidence for the Croatian police to charge those people. Croatia became a member of the European Union on 1 July 2013, and must now meet European standards, and is subject to pressure from the other EU members.
For instance, this English Wikipedia article is objectively true:
Ustaša (T-H-L)The Ustaša – Croatian Revolutionary Movement (Croatian: Ustaša – Hrvatski revolucionarni pokret) was a Croatian fascist[3] and terrorist organization which was active before and during World War II. Its members, Ustaše (pronounced [ûstaʃe], also anglicised Ustashe, Ustashas or Ustashi) were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of citizens of Yugoslavia, particularly Serbs.[4][5][6] The ideology of the movement was a blend of Fascism[2] and ultraconservatism. Ustaše supported the creation of a Greater Croatia that would span to the River Drina and to the border of Belgrade.[7] The movement emphasized the need for a racially "pure" Croatia and promoted persecution and genocide against Serbs, Jews[8] and Romani people.[9
This is the Google-translated Croatian Wikipedia article:
link Ustasha]- Croatian revolutionary organization was Croatian nationalist fascist [1] organization. Members of the organization called the Ustasha, by old Croatian word for rebels, insurgents, guerrillas. Today the word is used exclusively [2] as a name for the members of CURO, organized holders Ustasha government structures in the NDH and members Ustasha army . Ustasha organization was founded on the 7th January 1929 in Italy by Ante Pavelic . [3] Ustasha movement was created as a radical nationalist and chauvinist response to dissatisfaction with the Croatian position in Yugoslavia . Between 1929 and 1941 the movement acted as a terrorist organization with the aim of creating an independent Croatian state in which a larger area, which would include the whole state. They worked mostly in exile - Italy and Hungary, where they had their training camps
The Croatian article has the following sections:
Content
1 History
1.1 Creation of Croatian Home Guard
1.2 CURO and the assassination of King Alexander
1.3 Emigration
1.4 NDH
1.5 Ustasha movement after the second World War I
2 Ideology
3 The term "Ustasha" today
4 Literature
5 Sources
6 External links
6.1 Other Projects
The Croatian WP article states: "Known attacks: The murder of Alexander I". The English WP article has the following sections:
Contents
1 Name
2 Ideology
2.1 Ideological roots
2.2 Political programme and main agendas
3 History
3.1 Before World War II
3.2 World War II
3.3 Ustaše Militia
3.4 After the war
4 Ethnic and religious persecution
4.1 Concentration camps
5 Connections with the Catholic Church
6 Structure
7 Symbols
8 Modern usage of term "Ustaša"
9 See also
10 References
11 External links
The Croatian Wikipedia has no article on
Concentration_camps_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia (T-H-L)
English Wikipedia:
Jasenovac_concentration_camp (T-H-L)Jasenovac concentration camp (Croatian, Serbian: Logor Jasenovac; Serbian Cyrillic: Логор Јасеновац; Yiddish: יאסענאוואץ; Hebrew: יסנובץ, sometimes spelled "Yasenovatz") was an extermination camp established in the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) during World War II. It was the only extermination camp that was not operated by the Germans,[3] and was among the largest camps in Europe.[4]
The camp was established by the governing Ustaše regime in August 1941 in marshland at the confluence of the Sava and Una rivers near the village of Jasenovac, and was dismantled in April 1945. It was "notorious for its barbaric practices and the large number of victims".[5] In Jasenovac, the majority of victims were ethnic Serbs, whom the Ustaše wanted to remove from the NDH, along with the Jews and Roma peoples.[6]
Jasenovac was a complex of five subcamps[7] spread over 210 km2 (81 sq mi) on both banks of the Sava and Una rivers. The largest camp was the "Brickworks" camp at Jasenovac, about 100 km (62 mi) southeast of Zagreb. The overall complex included the Stara Gradiška sub-camp, the killing grounds across the Sava river at Donja Gradina, five work farms, and the Uštica Roma camp.[1]
Google-translated Croatian Wikipedia:
linkConcentration camps Jasenovac was the largest detention camp and death camp [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] in the Independent State of Croatia . Concentration camps were established as places of detention, forced labor and murder of large numbers: Serbs , Jews , Roma and Croats (Ustasha regime opponents). Sabrina camps were created as a result of policies of racial and ethnic exclusion in the Independent State of Croatia by the 10th travnja 1941st , under the auspices of the direct influence of Nazi Germany , declared Ustasha homeland organizations (the same day as the German army marched in Zagreb ).
