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Unread post by neved » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:01 pm

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User_talk:Alison#Fae - includes the statement with regard to my motivation: "It is obvious that a handful of people are trying to use Commons to get attention, money, or some other benefit that is outside the purview of this community. It is obvious that they will make whatever nasty comments and threats to ensure that they can continue."
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Unread post by Zoloft » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:30 pm

Pfft.

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Disruptive editing by Ottava Rima

    Ottava Rima (talk · contribs · logs · block log)
    Commons_talk:Project_scope/Update_2013/Must_be_realistically_useful_for_an_educational_purpose#Proposal_2:_Actively_curate_educationally_distinct_content
    User_talk:Fæ#Personal_attacks
    User_talk:Alison#Fae - includes the statement with regard to my motivation: "It is obvious that a handful of people are trying to use Commons to get attention, money, or some other benefit that is outside the purview of this community. It is obvious that they will make whatever nasty comments and threats to ensure that they can continue."
    Ottava Rima's first edit to commons on this account was 1 Sep 2008. 4 years, 10 months ago. I approximated this to 5 years. Special:Contributions/Ottava_Rima
    Ottava Rima's uploads I estimated at 90 by checking the log, discounting crops and minor edits rather than new uploads. On a more careful recount, I now estimate this to be 99. 
Special:ListFiles/Ottava_Rima

Ottava Rima has disrupted the consensus building policy discussion through series of disruptive comments against darkweasel94, MichaelMaggs, Mattbuck, Jmabel, Simonxag and 
myself on the above discussion page. After he complained on my talk page, I encouraged him to raise his accusations on AN/U, however the last last accusation against me was lying when these facts can be found in his contribution logs, and now has crossed the line with blatantly false claims that I have smeared him as homophobic.

I request prompt administrator action in line with COM:BP as he is creating a hostile environment for other contributors and disrupting a policy discussion intended to form a consensus. --Fæ (talk) 17:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Anroth » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:24 am

Were they not trying to ban Penylap from commons at one point? Not surprising really.

-edit- Reading that, what possible need is there for 400 pictures of a gay pride event? Is this what Ashley's bots are doing these days? I suppose it could be worse, 400 pictures of him tied up with a ballgag would have been less pleasant.

Surely at best, there would be 10 quality photos which may be of use to an encyclopedia. But 400? Did he do ANY culling or did he just plug his memory card (probably free from WMUK) straight into commons?

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Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:43 pm

I am having great difficulty in not having sympathy for anyone in an argument with Ottava.
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Unread post by Malleus » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:45 pm

Outsider wrote:I am having great difficulty in not having sympathy for anyone in an argument with Ottava.
I'm quite certain that's not the only thing you have great difficulty with.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:48 pm

All I could think of.
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Unread post by Midsize Jake » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:25 pm

Anroth wrote:Surely at best, there would be 10 quality photos which may be of use to an encyclopedia. But 400? Did he do ANY culling or did he just plug his memory card (probably free from WMUK) straight into commons?
Well, let's do the math here. How long would such an event last - maybe between 3 and 5 hours? So let's simplify and say 4 hours; that's 100 pictures per hour, assuming he took them himself (and he'd have to at least say he did, for licensing purposes). That's almost 2 shots per minute. But most likely he's taking them in bursts of about 5-7 photos per minute, and then he takes breaks of several minutes between bursts while he goes off to some other part of the crowd for a different view.

So let's guesstimate that each burst-period lasts about 5 minutes - that's about 30 photos each time, or one shot every 10 seconds, so he'd need about 13 bursts to get to 400 shots. That doesn't seem so unreasonable, I suppose, unless you're looking for quality over quantity of course. Also, depending on the camera, he'd probably run out of battery power after about 250-300 shots. It's possible he went in with a full charge, made it to 400 and gave up when the battery died - but given his propensity for this sort of thing, he almost certainly brought a spare battery with him. In fact, probably more than one spare battery.

TBH, I've never personally known anyone who would take that many photographs of a single 4-hour event who wasn't being paid to do so, but admittedly, in the digital-camera era you're much more likely to see that than you would have been in the film/chemical era. Still, that's a whole lotta shots, and the likelihood that he did any culling of the results is almost certainly nil.

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

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Midsize Jake wrote:
Anroth wrote:Surely at best, there would be 10 quality photos which may be of use to an encyclopedia. But 400? Did he do ANY culling or did he just plug his memory card (probably free from WMUK) straight into commons?
Well, let's do the math here. How long would such an event last - maybe between 3 and 5 hours? So let's simplify and say 4 hours; that's 100 pictures per hour, assuming he took them himself (and he'd have to at least say he did, for licensing purposes). That's almost 2 shots per minute. But most likely he's taking them in bursts of about 5-7 photos per minute, and then he takes breaks of several minutes between bursts while he goes off to some other part of the crowd for a different view.

So let's guesstimate that each burst-period lasts about 5 minutes - that's about 30 photos each time, or one shot every 10 seconds, so he'd need about 13 bursts to get to 400 shots. That doesn't seem so unreasonable, I suppose, unless you're looking for quality over quantity of course. Also, depending on the camera, he'd probably run out of battery power after about 250-300 shots. It's possible he went in with a full charge, made it to 400 and gave up when the battery died - but given his propensity for this sort of thing, he almost certainly brought a spare battery with him. In fact, probably more than one spare battery.

TBH, I've never personally known anyone who would take that many photographs of a single 4-hour event who wasn't being paid to do so, but admittedly, in the digital-camera era you're much more likely to see that than you would have been in the film/chemical era. Still, that's a whole lotta shots, and the likelihood that he did any culling of the results is almost certainly nil.
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Malleus wrote:I'm quite certain that's not the only thing you have great difficulty with.
What do you find difficult,other than the obvious?
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Zoloft wrote: During my 12-day trip to Japan in 2009, using my Canon Rebel, posing each shot and checking exposure and such (museums are NOT going to let you use flash) I took 400 pictures during my entire trip. I rejected 100 shots from that amount.
I am guessing of the 300 you had left, they were well spaced out geographically/culturally? Not 300 high quality pictures of Wagyu cattle getting massaged...

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Anroth wrote:
Zoloft wrote: During my 12-day trip to Japan in 2009, using my Canon Rebel, posing each shot and checking exposure and such (museums are NOT going to let you use flash) I took 400 pictures during my entire trip. I rejected 100 shots from that amount.
I am guessing of the 300 you had left, they were well spaced out geographically/culturally? Not 300 high quality pictures of Wagyu cattle getting massaged...
I certainly tried. The major cities I visited were Tokyo and Hiroshima. Tokyo and the surrounding prefecture is an entire nation in itself.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:59 am

Ruh roh, Raggy!
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... d=99581269

Did Ottava win this particular round?
00:02, 7 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-875)‎ . . User talk:Fæ ‎ (inactive) (current)
00:00, 7 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+53,481)‎ . . User talk:Fæ/2013 ‎ (Archiving) (current)
23:57, 6 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-53,481)‎ . . User talk:Fæ ‎ (archive)
Sure looks like a ragequit.
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Vigilant wrote:Ruh roh, Raggy!
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... d=99581269

Did Ottava win this particular round?
00:02, 7 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-875)‎ . . User talk:Fæ ‎ (inactive) (current)
00:00, 7 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+53,481)‎ . . User talk:Fæ/2013 ‎ (Archiving) (current)
23:57, 6 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-53,481)‎ . . User talk:Fæ ‎ (archive)
Sure looks like a ragequit.
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lilburne wrote: Why not just take it at face value that he's going to be spending the next few days tied up in some dungeon.
How many times will it take for you and other people here to learn that belittling people for the way they enjoy themselves in bed is stupid, unpleasant and pointless?
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lilburne wrote: Why not just take it at face value that he's going to be spending the next few days tied up in some dungeon.
How many times will it take for you and other people here to learn that belittling people for the way they enjoy themselves in bed is stupid, unpleasant and pointless?
How many times will it take for you to learn that being belittled by people in stupid, unpleasant and pointless ways is the way they enjoy themselves in bed? ;)

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:00 pm

Here we go.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Comm ... nal_attack

Let's play both the Jew and the Gay cards.
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I wonder why Ashley van Haeften hasn't been calling for Scott Bibby's head over this VERY SAME ISSUE with Jimmy and the Pricasso shit?
Is it because Ashley is a callow hypocrite?

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WHAT?! A voice of sanity on Commons?!
You know, I really am tired of people calling Carlos Latuff's works anti-semitic. You people do realize that "semitic" applies to Arabs as well? There's a big different between being Anti-Israel and Anti-all jews. You can support Israel, not support Israel or whatever else but calling people who are critical of Israel "anti-semitic" is incredibly disingenuous. Fry1989 eh? 16:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Fry, of all people, hits the nail on the fucking head and exposes Ashley for the lying little pot stirrer that he is.
You call it a voice of sanity, I call it a voice of stupidity, although I agree with this comment https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... d=99624099
Comment Without getting into whether or not this, that, or something else entirely is/isn't antisemitic/etc., it's pretty clear that the cartoon was used as an attack on Fae's particular line of argument, rather than being "personal". In fact there's probably a reasonable case for saying "rinse, lather, repeat" when describing this particular subthread about that particular usage of the cartoon, but it would probably be a bit to subtle for some tastes. --SB_Johnny talk 17:12, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
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Unread post by neved » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:19 pm

Vigilant wrote:I'd rather take advice from a randomly selected middle schooler.
Then you should read more Wikipedia :XD
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Vigilant wrote:I don't think that "listening to words of wisdom" from PinkAmpersand has much value in this conversation. I'd rather take advice from a randomly selected middle schooler.
Well, he seems to be doing OK for himself.
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Outsider wrote:Well, he seems to be doing OK for himself.
Considering he claims to be gay, I'd say he's actually doing pretty badly! :blink:

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Midsize Jake wrote:
Outsider wrote:Well, he seems to be doing OK for himself.
Considering he claims to be gay, I'd say he's actually doing pretty badly! :blink:
Maybe he's only claiming to be gay so that if he's ever attacked here, he can yell "homophobia"? :evilgrin:
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:picard:

Minor child, guys?

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Unread post by SB_Johnny » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:04 pm

Zoloft wrote::picard:

Minor child, guys?
I removed the one post with the pic (sorry, Vigilant).
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SB_Johnny wrote:
Zoloft wrote::picard:

Minor child, guys?
I removed the one post with the pic (sorry, Vigilant).
If he's a minor then that's my mistake. I took him to be an adult.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:37 pm

For a guy who is "Inactive until further notice", Ashley van Haeften sure edits a lot.

Makes you wonder if his flickrWashrBot didn't get reset.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:45 pm

With that ANU thread, I can't decide who to root for.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:59 pm

Not this shit again.
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SB_Johnny wrote:I removed the one post with the pic (sorry, Vigilant).
If you're going to remove the photo, you have to remove the posts too, don't you? Removing the photo eliminates the context of what I posted, making that comment sound far more homophobic than it actually was.

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SB_Johnny wrote:I removed the one post with the pic (sorry, Vigilant).
If you're going to remove the photo, you have to remove the posts too, don't you? Removing the photo eliminates the context of what I posted, making that comment sound far more homophobic than it actually was.

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Unread post by Midsize Jake » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:23 am

Zoloft wrote:I forgot to give SB_Johnny my axe.

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Zoloft wrote:
Midsize Jake wrote:
SB_Johnny wrote:I removed the one post with the pic (sorry, Vigilant).
If you're going to remove the photo, you have to remove the posts too, don't you? Removing the photo eliminates the context of what I posted, making that comment sound far more homophobic than it actually was.

:dubious:

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I forgot to give SB_Johnny my axe.

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:52 pm

Ashley van Haeften still plugging away with hundreds of edits a day while "inactive".

Worst rage quit ever. I want my money back.
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by SB_Johnny » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:08 pm

Midsize Jake wrote:
SB_Johnny wrote:I removed the one post with the pic (sorry, Vigilant).
If you're going to remove the photo, you have to remove the posts too, don't you? Removing the photo eliminates the context of what I posted, making that comment sound far more homophobic than it actually was.
I didn't think your comment was homophobic at all, but then I'm not Fae. :shrug:
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Lukeno94 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:05 pm

You can read it as such, but you've got to want it to be homophobic to do so.

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Mancunium » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:28 am

Vigilant wrote:Here we go.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Comm ... nal_attack

Let's play both the Jew and the Gay cards.
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Re: File:Cry-wolf.png a political cartoon by Carlos Latuff, intentionally controversial for its anti-Semitic intent and anti-Semitic motifs.
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It's entirely possible to play more than just the Jew and the Gay cards simultaneously. Here is Harold, performed by the great Leonard Frey, playing with a straight flush in the 1970 film The Boys in the Band. I agree with Hex:
How many times will it take for you and other people here to learn that belittling people for the way they enjoy themselves in bed is stupid, unpleasant and pointless?
The majority of Americans also agree. In the major cities of North America and Europe it would be hard to find any educated person who is homophobic or antisemitic (but perhaps I am moving in the wrong circles).
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by tarantino » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:19 am

Mancunium wrote:It's entirely possible to play more than just the Jew and the Gay cards simultaneously. Here is Harold, performed by the great Leonard Frey, playing with a straight flush in the 1970 film The Boys in the Band.

I agree with Hex:
How many times will it take for you and other people here to learn that belittling people for the way they enjoy themselves in bed is stupid, unpleasant and pointless?
The majority of Americans also agree. In the major cities of North America and Europe it would be hard to find any educated person who is homophobic or antisemitic (but perhaps I am moving in the wrong circles).
Here's Bill Burr's hilarious NSFW take on what isn't homophobia.

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Poetlister » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:43 pm

I am an academic in real life
:blink: Isn't he still a student?
I also was one of the main organizers of Wikiversity.
Obviously false, as the site has no organisation. I suppose he's partly to blame for its current state.
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Vigilant » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:22 pm

Well, it's nice to see that Ottava has a real life job, too.
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Jeffrey-Peters/1326864186
Company Description: Carroll Families is distributed to daycare facilities, elementary schools, area libraries, family-service businesses and organizations, physicians' offices, area convenience stores and other locations across the county. No part of the publication or this website may be reproduced or re-printed without written permission of Landmark Community Newspapers of Maryland, Inc. We hope you enjoy Carroll Families.
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Jeffrey Peters Religion Columnist Carroll County Times |

I am often asked for my opinion on matters of church government, traditions and doctrines of faith, and the transition from Pope Benedict to Pope Francis has increased the amount of inquiries. I try to base my view on patterns in history and remove my own personal feelings when answering because I feel that there are too many who substitute their own opinion for reality.

The religious forecasting by many writers seems more akin to sports gambling than an honest discussion of faith. I have read many columnists who have made some of the most outrageous of predictions for little reason than to stir up their audience or to push a fringe view. It is disappointing to see the church treated in such a manner....
I can tell you, Jeffrey, that nobody has EVER asked for your opinion twice.

I can say that the repeal of DOMA and the upholding of the appellate strike down of California Proposition 8 were made just a tiny bit more sweet knowing that Jeffrey Peters was losing his FUCKING mind while it happened.
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by Moonage Daydream » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:55 pm

Vigilant wrote:Well, it's nice to see that Ottava has a real life job, too.
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Jeffrey-Peters/1326864186
Company Description: Carroll Families is distributed to daycare facilities, elementary schools, area libraries, family-service businesses and organizations, physicians' offices, area convenience stores and other locations across the county. No part of the publication or this website may be reproduced or re-printed without written permission of Landmark Community Newspapers of Maryland, Inc. We hope you enjoy Carroll Families.
He's a sad, little man living a sad, little life.

His only real benefit is that he, occasionally, riles the wikipediots.

http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/searc ... rey+peters

My favorite editorial start so far
Jeffrey Peters Religion Columnist Carroll County Times |

I am often asked for my opinion on matters of church government, traditions and doctrines of faith, and the transition from Pope Benedict to Pope Francis has increased the amount of inquiries. I try to base my view on patterns in history and remove my own personal feelings when answering because I feel that there are too many who substitute their own opinion for reality.

The religious forecasting by many writers seems more akin to sports gambling than an honest discussion of faith. I have read many columnists who have made some of the most outrageous of predictions for little reason than to stir up their audience or to push a fringe view. It is disappointing to see the church treated in such a manner....
I can tell you, Jeffrey, that nobody has EVER asked for your opinion twice.

I can say that the repeal of DOMA and the upholding of the appellate strike down of California Proposition 8 were made just a tiny bit more sweet knowing that Jeffrey Peters was losing his FUCKING mind while it happened.
The Carroll County Times is extremely progressive when it comes to religion. They have a roster of five religion columnists. All Christian. What more could you ask for?

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by tarantino » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:31 pm

Moonage Daydream wrote:The Carroll County Times is extremely progressive when it comes to religion. They have a roster of five religion columnists. All Christian. What more could you ask for?
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

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Moonage Daydream wrote: The Carroll County Times is extremely progressive when it comes to religion. They have a roster of five religion columnists. All Christian. What more could you ask for?
Ahem: Rabbi Amy R. Scheinerman, Carroll County Times: Death penalty ignores image of God in man

I have it from a good source that editorial policy in the Carroll County Times is that writers from any religion that has a congregation in the area are welcome.

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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

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HRIP7 wrote:
Moonage Daydream wrote: The Carroll County Times is extremely progressive when it comes to religion. They have a roster of five religion columnists. All Christian. What more could you ask for?
Ahem: Rabbi Amy R. Scheinerman, Carroll County Times: Death penalty ignores image of God in man

I have it from a good source that editorial policy in the Carroll County Times is that writers from any religion that has a congregation in the area are welcome.
Do you suppose there is a congregation of people as silly as Jeffrey Peters?

That's a frightening proposition.
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

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Vigilant wrote:
HRIP7 wrote:
Moonage Daydream wrote: The Carroll County Times is extremely progressive when it comes to religion. They have a roster of five religion columnists. All Christian. What more could you ask for?
Ahem: Rabbi Amy R. Scheinerman, Carroll County Times: Death penalty ignores image of God in man

I have it from a good source that editorial policy in the Carroll County Times is that writers from any religion that has a congregation in the area are welcome.
Do you suppose there is a congregation of people as silly as Jeffrey Peters?

That's a frightening proposition.
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Re: Fae versus Ottava Rima

Unread post by lilburne » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:10 am

Vigilant wrote:
HRIP7 wrote:
Moonage Daydream wrote: The Carroll County Times is extremely progressive when it comes to religion. They have a roster of five religion columnists. All Christian. What more could you ask for?
Ahem: Rabbi Amy R. Scheinerman, Carroll County Times: Death penalty ignores image of God in man

I have it from a good source that editorial policy in the Carroll County Times is that writers from any religion that has a congregation in the area are welcome.
Do you suppose there is a congregation of people as silly as Jeffrey Peters?

That's a frightening proposition.
Even more frightening is this where I think they've misspelt nit.
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