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Anyone wanna lay bets how long this article will last?
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About five minutes longer than it should have.EricBarbour wrote:Anyone wanna lay bets how long this article will last?
Get 3 big boy sources and spend a couple hours writing a real article if you want something to last...
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Tsk tsk - when you make a move in chess the idea is to anticipate the moves of your opponent a few steps ahead. Gawd I hope Silver Seren will bring it to AfD!EricBarbour wrote:Anyone wanna lay bets how long this article will last?
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I'm waiting for Silver Seren, Prioryman, and Russavia to challenge it on the grounds that it is a site that "engages in outing/doxing Wikipedians" and "outed/doxed Robert Young Clark as Qworty." Double the stupidity, double the fun!Volunteer Marek wrote:Tsk tsk - when you make a move in chess the idea is to anticipate the moves of your opponent a few steps ahead. Gawd I hope Silver Seren will bring it to AfD!EricBarbour wrote:Anyone wanna lay bets how long this article will last?
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hahaha; good at chess, bad at lifeVolunteer Marek wrote:Tsk tsk - when you make a move in chess the idea is to anticipate the moves of your opponent a few steps ahead. Gawd I hope Silver Seren will bring it to AfD!EricBarbour wrote:Anyone wanna lay bets how long this article will last?
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lol, it's Shirt58 (T-C-L). I like him.
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Wikipediocracy: The Wikipedia article
Looks like some folks wanted to have some fun on a Sunday morning, instead of going to church.
Wikipediocracy.
Wikipediocracy.
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I'll copy my post from the Qworty thread here.
Vocal wrote:lol, it's Shirt58 (T-C-L). I like him.
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Hmm ... if anyone's looking for sources, The Register once referred readers to our blog as well.
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Sorry, I hadn't seen this post when I opened a new thread about "our" Wikipedia article. Since a Wikipedia article about Wikipediocracy is not really about the subject of "Qworty", I suggest that maybe a moderator do some post-moving over to the other thread?
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Wikipediocracy article
A Wikipediocracy article was recently created on enwiki. Save copies, because it might disappear. They're also trying to remove references to Qworty's real name. Including (now) indisputable facts within the article is apparently against policy.
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I'm not concerned about its disappearance, because all votes on the AfD so far have been in favor of a keep.
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Yeah, I was hoping it would be someone more obnoxious and the Shirt fellah seems ok.Vocal wrote:lol, it's Shirt58 (T-C-L). I like him.
(Yes this probably should be merged to the thread started by Michael)
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Actually, there are two now. Perhaps a thread merge is in order as well?thekohser wrote:Sorry, I hadn't seen this post when I opened a new thread about "our" Wikipedia article. Since a Wikipedia article about Wikipediocracy is not really about the subject of "Qworty", I suggest that maybe a moderator do some post-moving over to the other thread?
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Mod. Note: Thread merge donemac wrote:Actually, there are two now. Perhaps a thread merge is in order as well?thekohser wrote:Sorry, I hadn't seen this post when I opened a new thread about "our" Wikipedia article. Since a Wikipedia article about Wikipediocracy is not really about the subject of "Qworty", I suggest that maybe a moderator do some post-moving over to the other thread?
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Looks to me like this is heading for a snow keep.
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Lol, Andy has an interesting take on it:
Keep. for two reasons. Firstly because it appears to meet notability guidelines (and erring on the side of assuming it does is probably better PR than assuming it doesn't), and secondly because it will annoy the hell out of the conspiracy-mongers amongst Wikipediocracy contributors who are so obsessed with their own perceived self-importance that they have to blame the fact that their endless whining usually goes unnoticed on 'censorship', rather than boredom. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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Except by Salon.com (T-H-L)The Devil's Advocate wrote:Lol, Andy has an interesting take on it:
Keep. for two reasons. Firstly because it appears to meet notability guidelines (and erring on the side of assuming it does is probably better PR than assuming it doesn't), and secondly because it will annoy the hell out of the conspiracy-mongers amongst Wikipediocracy contributors who are so obsessed with their own perceived self-importance that they have to blame the fact that their endless whining usually goes unnoticed on 'censorship', rather than boredom. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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Back when I cared about Wikipedia internal nonsense (and thought it was theoretically possible to write a "crowd-sourced" reference work of reasonable quality) I would probably have been a "delete" voter on this. Just not enough in secondary sources to write much of value.Vocal wrote:I'll copy my post from the Qworty thread here.Vocal wrote:lol, it's Shirt58 (T-C-L). I like him.
As a researcher (using all sources available) it's of course possible to write a good article on this website. But by Wikipedia's internal rules (OMG! Synthesis! Oh, noes!) most of what you would do to write a decent article is not allowed. So we'll just have the little-old magpie hodgepodge. Which is fine/crappy/who cares?
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[Mod note: more thread merging done]
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In the past, an AFD like this would have attracted a number of major irritants: Prioryman, Ottava, SV, etc.
This time, it's not. Why? I wonder if there's an argument about this on IRC.wikipedia-en.admins right now.
This time, it's not. Why? I wonder if there's an argument about this on IRC.wikipedia-en.admins right now.
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Well, what good does it do this website to have the Wikipedia article become one of the top hits for the search term? If I was a smart insider who hated external criticism, I'd want it on Wikipedia since that would give me a chance to shape how it's seen by the general public (rather than the site speaking for itself).EricBarbour wrote:In the past, an AFD like this would have attracted a number of major irritants: Prioryman, Ottava, SV, etc.
This time, it's not. Why? I wonder if there's an argument about this on IRC.wikipedia-en.admins right now.
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Those aren't irritants any more than pepper is an irritant in a dry rub.EricBarbour wrote:In the past, an AFD like this would have attracted a number of major irritants: Prioryman, Ottava, SV, etc.
This time, it's not. Why? I wonder if there's an argument about this on IRC.wikipedia-en.admins right now.
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Almost a shame that the AfD didn't trend towards deletion. Would've been interesting to see how the Rescue Squad's reaction, as it is the type of article that they usually diligently and tirelessly squeeze blood from the reliable-source stone for.
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Now that Russavia is messing with it, I might mention this IRC capture, taken earlier today by persons unknown.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
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EricBarbour wrote:Now that Russavia is messing with it, I might mention this IRC capture, taken earlier today by persons unknown.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
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I'm going to miss him.
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Shouldn't Russavia get a "connected contributor" box on the article's talk page like the one Qworty got?EricBarbour wrote:Now that Russavia is messing with it, I might mention this IRC capture, taken earlier today by persons unknown.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
He (1) is on the record with a very strong opinion of the site, and (2) is/was a member, albeit under a sockpuppet account. Surely that qualifies for a COI scarlet letter, n'est-ce pas?
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Re: Wikipediocracy: The Wikipedia article
Russavia is a currently banned member of this site, under 'russavia.'Mason wrote:Shouldn't Russavia get a "connected contributor" box on the article's talk page like the one Qworty got?EricBarbour wrote:Now that Russavia is messing with it, I might mention this IRC capture, taken earlier today by persons unknown.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
He (1) is on the record with a very strong opinion of the site, and (2) is/was a member, albeit under a sockpuppet account. Surely that qualifies for a COI scarlet letter, n'est-ce pas?
Russavia is the subject of one of our articles.
Russavia is on record as attacking the site, and its members.
He has a COI a mile wide.
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"< Koi> Guess what troll created the article for Wikipediocracy (surprise, it was a WO troll), and now he's all pissy that a non-notable website he's a part of is up for deletion!"EricBarbour wrote:Now that Russavia is messing with it, I might mention this IRC capture, taken earlier today by persons unknown.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
Dangiitt, get straight. I was not pissy that it was up for deletion (I actually think he posted this before I even said anything), I was pissy that it was nominated for deletion by a sensible person.
(and I thought <koi> was russavia but he's posting there under <russavia> too?)
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"Koi" is actually Gwickwire, which is quite easy to guess from his obsessions.Volunteer Marek wrote:(and I thought <koi> was russavia but he's posting there under <russavia> too?)
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Ah. Makes sense.EricBarbour wrote:"Koi" is actually Gwickwire, which is quite easy to guess from his obsessions.Volunteer Marek wrote:(and I thought <koi> was russavia but he's posting there under <russavia> too?)
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I look forward to seeing GW's inevitable sockpuppetry revealed.EricBarbour wrote:"Koi" is actually Gwickwire, which is quite easy to guess from his obsessions.Volunteer Marek wrote:(and I thought <koi> was russavia but he's posting there under <russavia> too?)
Seeing the hateful "law and order" types like him and Qworty exposed for the hypocrites they are is little consolation after seeing them run roughshod over innocent people for so long, but a little consolation's better than none, I suppose.
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Yes.Mason wrote: Shouldn't Russavia get a "connected contributor" box on the article's talk page like the one Qworty got?
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Hex wrote:Yes.Mason wrote: Shouldn't Russavia get a "connected contributor" box on the article's talk page like the one Qworty got?
I admire your cajones, sir.
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As Zoloft notes above (very convenient for providing a citation), Russavia has the very definition of a conflict of interest.
And so that I don't, I won't be editing the article, or participating in its AFD. It ain't rocket science!
And so that I don't, I won't be editing the article, or participating in its AFD. It ain't rocket science!
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AWESOMESAUCE.
Snowolf (T-C-L) has oversighted the last few revisions of the talk page because they contained a webcitation link to this very thread.
Edit: Ah, it'll be because of Vigilant's post above, which mentions Russavia's name. I hadn't noticed that. Got to keep that cat in the bag, hey?
Snowolf (T-C-L) has oversighted the last few revisions of the talk page because they contained a webcitation link to this very thread.
Edit: Ah, it'll be because of Vigilant's post above, which mentions Russavia's name. I hadn't noticed that. Got to keep that cat in the bag, hey?
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EricBarbour wrote:Now that Russavia is messing with it, I might mention this IRC capture, taken earlier today by persons unknown.
Save a copy of that, it might go away at any time. Always hilarious to see one of those little fucks accuse me of editing a WP article, when I'm not.
They act like 13 year olds are stupid and can't do anything in life?
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Hex wrote:Yes.Mason wrote: Shouldn't Russavia get a "connected contributor" box on the article's talk page like the one Qworty got?
You cannot view this diff because one or both of the revisions has been suppressed.
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Looks like Russavia edit-warred to remove his name. Isn't that COI editing?
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Silver Seren grudgingly voted Keep!Volunteer Marek wrote:Gawd I hope Silver Seren will bring it to AfD!
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Just opened up my terminal connection to find this waiting for me:
OUTING!IRC wrote: 11:30 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with russavia
11:30 <russavia> you are a dog
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And it continues! The following message was rated PG for mixed metaphors and vague predictions.
IRC wrote: 14:43 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with russavia
14:43 <russavia> you dogs will come undone before too long ya realise
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Scott Bibby is Russavia.
This strange desire to try to hold onto his shredded anonymity is just sad. Like a poorly aged 50 year old whore clutching the tattered remains of a grungy feather boa with her cigarette stained claws to her droopy breasts.
This strange desire to try to hold onto his shredded anonymity is just sad. Like a poorly aged 50 year old whore clutching the tattered remains of a grungy feather boa with her cigarette stained claws to her droopy breasts.
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Vigilant wrote:...
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Scott,
You make me laugh.
You make me laugh.
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Sweet Revenge wrote:Template:Did you know nominations/Wikipediocracy (T-H-L) courtesy of Reaper Eternal (T-C-L).
Did you know <X> is <definition of X>?{{*mp}}... that '''[[Wikipediocracy]]''', a weblog and forum, is dedicated to criticizing Wikipedia?
These facts are supposed to be interesting. Surely, they can do better (although I'm glad Reaper Eternal is aware of the flaw with his or her own nomination, but why not have a good "hook" in mind before nominating it for a DYK?). Here are my DYK's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Operation_Payback&diff=393561286&oldid=393147952
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Th3j35t3r&diff=406433075&oldid=405789839
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pakistanism&diff=454474391&oldid=452569540