Farmall model H tractors, and other actual things

[SB_Johnny]

I had mine tuned up the other day, and was joy-riding it this afternoon. Got back to the house and googled it, expecting WP to be the first result, but no!

I've found it fascinating that there's an article on every pokemon figure, Dr. Who episode, and whatev, but few detailed articles on agricultural topics. I'm pretty sure that any American farmer or kid that grew up around farms would know what a model H is... if your mental image of "old tractor" is of a thing with large wheels in the back, wheels close together in the front, and painted red, you're picturing a model H.

Not that I care all that much whether there's a WP article about them, but it's interesting.

[DanMurphy]

I had mine tuned up the other day, and was joy-riding it this afternoon. Got back to the house and googled it, expecting WP to be the first result, but no!

I've found it fascinating that there's an article on every pokemon figure, Dr. Who episode, and whatev, but few detailed articles on agricultural topics. I'm pretty sure that any American farmer or kid that grew up around farms would know what a model H is... if your mental image of "old tractor" is of a thing with large wheels in the back, wheels close together in the front, and painted red, you're picturing a model H.

Not that I care all that much whether there's a WP article about them, but it's interesting.

Had a blast at the Amador County Fair old tractor parade last year, and I don't even like machines all that much. For a bonus, they had an old steam powered saw mill and stuff like that.

[Zoloft]

They don't have an article about the H model, but they do have one about the Cub.

The article about the model name Farmall (T-H-L) isn't too bad.

Oh, if you want to buy another: try here.

[Midsize Jake]

This is a fine example of Wikipedia's technology bias, actually. The folks who have built Wikipedia don't know squat about farm tractors, so they're happy to have all that stuff moved off onto the Tractors and Construction Plant Wikia, though in their defense, I don't see any links to the Wikia site on the List of International Harvester vehicles (T-H-L). But if you look at that list, you'll see that most of the cars have articles, the trucks have mostly red-links... but the tractors and construction equipment don't even have red-links.

Meanwhile, in the List of home computers by video hardware (T-H-L), practically every item on their highly-extensive list has an article, often with a great deal of detail. No offloading there - "that's our territory."

[SB_Johnny]

This is a fine example of Wikipedia's technology bias, actually. The folks who have built Wikipedia don't know squat about farm tractors, so they're happy to have all that stuff moved off onto the Tractors and Construction Plant Wikia, though in their defense, I don't see any links to the Wikia site on the List of International Harvester vehicles (T-H-L). But if you look at that list, you'll see that most of the cars have articles, the trucks have mostly red-links... but the tractors and construction equipment don't even have red-links.

Meanwhile, in the List of home computers by video hardware (T-H-L), practically every item on their highly-extensive list has an article, often with a great deal of detail. No offloading there - "that's our territory."

Exactly. The sum of all human knowledge doesn't include a whole lot about things that young suburban white males don't know about.

OTOH, it would probably be hard to find "reliable sources" discussing the Model H on google, since the sorts of publications that mention them are 60 years old and probably only available on microfilm in small town libraries. The New York Times probably never reviewed them, I'd guess.

[SB_Johnny]

Oh, if you want to buy another: try here.

Pretty much any agricultural supply store in America will have those in the toy section, actually. (Nope, I'm not kidding).

[DanMurphy]

This is a fine example of Wikipedia's technology bias, actually. The folks who have built Wikipedia don't know squat about farm tractors, so they're happy to have all that stuff moved off onto the Tractors and Construction Plant Wikia, though in their defense, I don't see any links to the Wikia site on the List of International Harvester vehicles (T-H-L). But if you look at that list, you'll see that most of the cars have articles, the trucks have mostly red-links... but the tractors and construction equipment don't even have red-links.

Meanwhile, in the List of home computers by video hardware (T-H-L), practically every item on their highly-extensive list has an article, often with a great deal of detail. No offloading there - "that's our territory."

Exactly. The sum of all human knowledge doesn't include a whole lot about things that young suburban white males don't know about.

OTOH, it would probably be hard to find "reliable sources" discussing the Model H on google, since the sorts of publications that mention them are 60 years old and probably only available on microfilm in small town libraries. The New York Times probably never reviewed them, I'd guess.

For years, when I've discussed technology with people, I've often suggested that the Container ship (T-H-L) (or perhaps the Container terminal (T-H-L)) were the most profound innovations of the last half of the 20th century (only half in jest). Compare those articles to, say, Internet (T-H-L).

[Cedric]

Oh, if you want to buy another: try here.

Pretty much any agricultural supply store in America will have those in the toy section, actually. (Nope, I'm not kidding).

I know you're not kidding. As a kid, I loved going with my father to Tractor Supply. And Rural King, too, of course (Yay! Free popcorn! ).

[SB_Johnny]

This is a fine example of Wikipedia's technology bias, actually. The folks who have built Wikipedia don't know squat about farm tractors, so they're happy to have all that stuff moved off onto the Tractors and Construction Plant Wikia, though in their defense, I don't see any links to the Wikia site on the List of International Harvester vehicles (T-H-L). But if you look at that list, you'll see that most of the cars have articles, the trucks have mostly red-links... but the tractors and construction equipment don't even have red-links.

Meanwhile, in the List of home computers by video hardware (T-H-L), practically every item on their highly-extensive list has an article, often with a great deal of detail. No offloading there - "that's our territory."

Exactly. The sum of all human knowledge doesn't include a whole lot about things that young suburban white males don't know about.

OTOH, it would probably be hard to find "reliable sources" discussing the Model H on google, since the sorts of publications that mention them are 60 years old and probably only available on microfilm in small town libraries. The New York Times probably never reviewed them, I'd guess.

For years, when I've discussed technology with people, I've often suggested that the Container ship (T-H-L) (or perhaps the Container terminal (T-H-L)) were the most profound innovations of the last half of the 20th century (only half in jest). Compare those articles to, say, Internet (T-H-L).

Well, in a more basic way the interwoven technologies and systems involved in the green revolution (T-H-L) have probably had a more profound impact. The political flavor of the introductory paragraph for that WP article speaks volumes (had never looked at it before, and stopped reading after it became clear it was probably a diatribe).

[DanMurphy]

This is a fine example of Wikipedia's technology bias, actually. The folks who have built Wikipedia don't know squat about farm tractors, so they're happy to have all that stuff moved off onto the Tractors and Construction Plant Wikia, though in their defense, I don't see any links to the Wikia site on the List of International Harvester vehicles (T-H-L). But if you look at that list, you'll see that most of the cars have articles, the trucks have mostly red-links... but the tractors and construction equipment don't even have red-links.

Meanwhile, in the List of home computers by video hardware (T-H-L), practically every item on their highly-extensive list has an article, often with a great deal of detail. No offloading there - "that's our territory."

Exactly. The sum of all human knowledge doesn't include a whole lot about things that young suburban white males don't know about.

OTOH, it would probably be hard to find "reliable sources" discussing the Model H on google, since the sorts of publications that mention them are 60 years old and probably only available on microfilm in small town libraries. The New York Times probably never reviewed them, I'd guess.

For years, when I've discussed technology with people, I've often suggested that the Container ship (T-H-L) (or perhaps the Container terminal (T-H-L)) were the most profound innovations of the last half of the 20th century (only half in jest). Compare those articles to, say, Internet (T-H-L).

Well, in a more basic way the interwoven technologies and systems involved in the green revolotion (T-H-L) have probably had a more profound impact. The political flavor of the introductory paragraph for that WP article speaks volumes (had never looked at it before, and stopped reading after it became clear it was probably a diatribe).

Oh, dear:

Green Revolution refers to a series of research, development, and technology transfer initiatives, occurring between the 1940s and the late 1970s, that increased agriculture production worldwide, beginning most markedly in the late 1960s. It forms a part of the 'neo-colonial' system of agriculture wherein agriculture was viewed as more of a commercial sector than a subsistence one.

There's an essay on them idjeets right there, there is.

Food production. It's, like, important and stuff. I wrote a longish story on this recently.

[EricBarbour]

Well, in a more basic way the interwoven technologies and systems involved in the green revolution (T-H-L) have probably had a more profound impact. The political flavor of the introductory paragraph for that WP article speaks volumes (had never looked at it before, and stopped reading after it became clear it was probably a diatribe).

More to the point, it's a target for regular vandalism, by a random-looking mess of IP addresses. Plus, the part about Punjab is being
trashed and rewritten over and over. This article is a nice example of both institutional bias, and how "crowdsourcing" produces hash
rather than information.

A considerable quantity of it was written by a succession of "specialist accounts" prior to 2010:
Bubbukuf, Yuvsore2, Ty311, Thaigtab, Hinagot, Gurney601, Mzalamea, and several others.
Many of them did nothing else, a few of them look for all the world like biology students.
Janus01 (T-C-L), for example.

[Peter Damian]

For years, when I've discussed technology with people, I've often suggested that the Container ship (T-H-L) (or perhaps the Container terminal (T-H-L)) were the most profound innovations of the last half of the 20th century (only half in jest). Compare those articles to, say, Internet (T-H-L).

Yes. And it would be useful to have an article about container ships because whereas you can find anything about the internet on the internet, it's hard to find anything about container ships. I always wondered, looking at those old pictures of the London
docks, where stuff comes from now.

[The Joy]

They don't have an article about the H model, but they do have one about the Cub.

The article about the model name Farmall (T-H-L) isn't too bad.

Oh, if you want to buy another: try here.

Oh, Commons has one better!

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... g_game.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... f_tractors

[Hex]

Oh, Commons has one better!

Ah, Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology. If you ever wanted something that says to women editors "Commons is not for you", you could scarcely do better.

[Hex]

Well, in a more basic way the interwoven technologies and systems involved in the green revolution (T-H-L) have probably had a more profound impact. The political flavor of the introductory paragraph for that WP article speaks volumes (had never looked at it before, and stopped reading after it became clear it was probably a diatribe).

You're probably referring to this edit, which I've now removed.

[Midsize Jake]

Oh, Commons has one better!

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... g_game.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... f_tractors

You know, it's like I can almost remember a time in the distant past when I might have been surprised by something like that, but every time I think I can take hold of those memories, they somehow seem to slip from my grasp like murmured voices in the wind.

[Randy from Boise]

Oh, Commons has one better!

Ah, Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology. If you ever wanted something that says to women editors "Commons is not for you", you could scarcely do better.

Systemic bias! Systemic bias! Where is Commons' collection Category:Nude portrayals of International Harvester tractors ?

RfB

[SB_Johnny]

Well, in a more basic way the interwoven technologies and systems involved in the green revolution (T-H-L) have probably had a more profound impact. The political flavor of the introductory paragraph for that WP article speaks volumes (had never looked at it before, and stopped reading after it became clear it was probably a diatribe).

You're probably referring to this edit, which I've now removed.

Ah, only 6 months! Always improving, and quickly.

[Volunteer Marek]

if your mental image of "old tractor" is of a thing with large wheels in the back, wheels close together in the front, and painted red, you're picturing a model H.

Or a a Ursus tractor (T-H-L) (also colloquially knowns as Papai, ie. "Popeye" cuz of the way it puffed) and there is an article (sort of) on those.

[The Joy]

Oh, Commons has one better!

Ah, Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology. If you ever wanted something that says to women editors "Commons is not for you", you could scarcely do better.

Systemic bias! Systemic bias! Where is Commons' collection Category:Nude portrayals of International Harvester tractors ?

RfB

I did have to search hard on Commons to find that naked woman with the model tractor. I did expect to find a naked woman/man on a tractor from the get-go, but I was pleasantly disappointed. Commons pornographers prefer the more up-scale bourgeoisie, Playboy-style porn as opposed to the working-class proletariat Hustler-style porn.

Getting back on topic, there is actually a Farmall category on Commons, but no naked people... yet.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... l_tractors