Russavia twists the knife a little: follow the link he gives ‘here’.
That place is more messed up than even I believed.@Peter Damian: I have placed the text you are needing here. russavia (talk) 17:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
That place is more messed up than even I believed.@Peter Damian: I have placed the text you are needing here. russavia (talk) 17:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
The blocking admin cited the reason "insert a childish personal attack", not for "testing out a template". Might you elaborate on why there was this discrepancy between your description and his?Peter Damian wrote:Blocked indefinitely, for testing out a template in my user space.
Indeed. I inserted some test 'vandalism' into the test article on my user page to see how the differencing link would work (the diff gives you all differences between the stable version and the current version). So I inserted some vandalism of the 'poo' and 'X is gay'. This was clearly ill-advised, as the admin probably thought it was real vandalism. Russavia imagined it was some sort of attack on him, by reason of the 'X'. I never intended anything of the sort, as I chose a popular American name. Quite forgetting it was Russavia's first name.thekohser wrote:The blocking admin cited the reason "insert a childish personal attack", not for "testing out a template". Might you elaborate on why there was this discrepancy between your description and his?Peter Damian wrote:Blocked indefinitely, for testing out a template in my user space.
PD wrote: I inserted some test 'vandalism' into the test article on my user page to see how the differencing link would work (the diff gives you all differences between the stable version and the current version). So I inserted some vandalism of the 'poo' and 'X is gay'. This was clearly ill-advised, as the admin probably thought it was real vandalism. Russavia imagined it was some sort of attack on him, by reason of the 'X'. I never intended anything of the sort, as I chose a popular American name. Quite forgetting it was Russavia's first name.
You should have used a picture from this Commons participant's extensive private softcore pr0n collection (NSFW). They would have loved you. You may even have qualified for Beta_M's special Commons barnstar (NSFW).Peter Damian wrote: I inserted some test 'vandalism' into the test article on my user page to see how the differencing link would work (the diff gives you all differences between the stable version and the current version). So I inserted some vandalism of the 'poo' and 'X is gay'. This was clearly ill-advised, ...
@eagle: Your proposals make good sense. However, they are totally out of line with the WMF philosophy, which does not always make sense.eagle wrote:I have never understood how "admin on commons" is consistent with the crowdsourcing philosophy and the belief in the wisdom of crowds. I can see the need for many levels of workers on a large project like English Wikipedia. If one believes in the wisdom of crowds, why not just give everyone all of the tools on Commons? The worse thing that could happen is an edit war over the category sorting of photographs, and such disputes could be resolved by a vote.
Conversely, to the extent that professional supervision is necessary for the operation of commons (i.e., judgement about copyright, copyright templates, implementing child protection features), one would assume that a $50 million per year budget could cover the professional staff necessary to do that. Flickr seems to have an effective professional customer service staff, and there is no reason that the WMF could not staff Commons to provide a similar level of service.
I'm pretty sure Peter could get back in to English-WP if he tried. He decided not to do that.Textnyymi wrote:Peter Damian is surprised to find that he isn't welcome on their project due to his general anti-wikipedian stance. Well at least you can be certain they don't like you, it would be worse if they let you back only to mock you and botch your edits at a later time when you aren't watching.
You apologized for making a mistake. If one of their objectives is having as many successful blocks and bans as they can, they're not going to read your apology, wheter it's sincere or not. You're on a black list, and aren't going to come off of it.
Another idea would be to stop giving them a stick which they then use to beat you down. You might be giving it willingly, or you might be giving it by clumsily tripping over it, mistakenly kicking it and propelling it towards them, but the result doesn't change, they're still going to beat you down with it.
Watch that stick and keep away from it! If you don't touch it, they can't do anything to you!
linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =554187373[/link]Jimmy Wales himself wrote: "I think that Commons policy is enforced inconsistently and also needs some revision. I think that some of the people who are admins at Commons are among the weakest admins that we have in all the projects, and that this is a core part of the problem." (May 8, 2013)
He did write that.Randy from Boise wrote:linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =554187373[/link]Jimmy Wales himself wrote: "I think that Commons policy is enforced inconsistently and also needs some revision. I think that some of the people who are admins at Commons are among the weakest admins that we have in all the projects, and that this is a core part of the problem." (May 8, 2013)
Are you saying that is why I'm allowed to have an account in good standing there?Randy from Boise wrote:Commons is another kettle of fish. Nasty, bitey fish — foul smelling and misshapen creatures that are all bones and no meat and that will poison your dog if he finds a dead one one the beach...
thekohser wrote:Are you saying that is why I'm allowed to have an account in good standing there?Randy from Boise wrote:Commons is another kettle of fish. Nasty, bitey fish — foul smelling and misshapen creatures that are all bones and no meat and that will poison your dog if he finds a dead one one the beach...
Speaking of dead fish, did you know that Mr. Buck now has more than 12,800 images on Commons? He's literally using it as a Flickr. (His actual Flickr account has more than 20,000 photos, so he's still got some way to go.) And yes, he is now employed by the London Underground, making his hundreds of Tube photos on Commons possible conflicts of interest.Randy from Boise wrote:Commons is another kettle of fish. Nasty, bitey fish — foul smelling and misshapen creatures that are all bones and no meat and that will poison your dog if he finds a dead one one the beach...
Yes, I have noticed that. It's really quite bizarre, isn't it?EricBarbour wrote:
Speaking of "reform" on Commons is a joke and will remain so, as long as creatures such as Mr. Buck remain in power there. Amongst the very first things that should happen to change their direction is his desysopping. Since Wales cannot seem to do anything, and Moeller refuses to act, he will continue and things will fester.
(BTW, have you ever noticed that none of the search engines are indexing ANY Commons images? At all? One of the largest CC-licensed image depositories on earth that allows free reuse is not searchable from anyplace other than the Commons search box. That nofollow scheme is amazingly effective.)
I haven't noticed that, because it's not true.EricBarbour wrote:BTW, have you ever noticed that none of the search engines are indexing ANY Commons images? At all? ...
Hey - some of the toughest people I know don't have balls. They do, however, have a spine.Jim wrote: Needs balls.
Needs tattoos...Hex wrote:Hey - some of the toughest people I know don't have balls. They do, however, have a spine.Jim wrote: Needs balls.
#feministkilljoy
You can also get results from Tineye.thekohser wrote:I haven't noticed that, because it's not true.EricBarbour wrote:BTW, have you ever noticed that none of the search engines are indexing ANY Commons images? At all? ...
For example, if I search Google images for "Avia M-137", half of the first six photos are found in Commons.
P.S. "nofollow" and "noindex" are different things.
Jim wrote:Needs tattoos...Hex wrote: #feministkilljoy
I half guessed that you didn't.Hex wrote:Jim wrote:Needs tattoos...Hex wrote: #feministkilljoy
I didn't even know that was a hashtag people were actually using when I typed it!
Organist!Randy from Boise wrote:NB: For "needs balls" substitute "needs gonads."
Problem solved.
RfB
Randy from Boise wrote:NB: For "needs balls" substitute "needs gonads."
Problem solved.
RfB
OUTING!!!Jim wrote:Organist!Randy from Boise wrote:NB: For "needs balls" substitute "needs gonads."
Problem solved.
RfB
Sometimes my smile joins my ears together on this site, and I bask in a happy glow.Alison wrote:OUTING!!!Jim wrote:Organist!Randy from Boise wrote:NB: For "needs balls" substitute "needs gonads."
Problem solved.
RfB