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Unread post by Elinruby » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:36 pm

Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
Oh please let's not start making articles.about parking lots now

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:01 pm

Elinruby wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
Oh please let's not start making articles.about parking lots now
Too late for that…

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Unread post by Elinruby » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:28 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:01 pm
Elinruby wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
Oh please let's not start making articles.about parking lots now
Too late for that…
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Unread post by ArmasRebane » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:46 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:01 pm
Elinruby wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
Oh please let's not start making articles.about parking lots now
Too late for that…
The OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument highlights Vince Lombardi Park & Ride (T-H-L), which certainly has a lot more sourcing involved. From a quick search, there don't seem to be many of them on Wikipedia, although it's certainly possible lots more are lurking that aren't categorized. Brossard-Chevrier Park and Ride (T-H-L) would probably be a delete for me, it's only primary sources and it's fundamentally a bus stop, which compared to relatively fixed light or heavy rail transit seem pretty ephemeral, both in importance and the amount of coverage they get.

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Unread post by tarantino » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:49 pm

Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
Created by Jg10101, who is apparently a relative of Jack_Gross_(screenwriter) (T-H-L), Jack_O._Gross (T-H-L) and Laurence Gross (T-H-L) because he uploaded photos of the first two as his "own work" and created two of the articles and edited the third.

The photo of Jack O. Gross is unlikely his own work, since it's from 1949. Commons took his word for it, though.

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Unread post by eppur si muove » Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:46 am

I see that Josh E. Gross (T-H-L) was created by Joshg0788 (T-C-L) who had intended to create Jack O. Gross (T-H-L) before disappearing and leaving it to the entirely unrelated Jg10101 (T-C-L) to create the article.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:54 am

eppur si muove wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:46 am
I see that Josh E. Gross (T-H-L) was created by Joshg0788 (T-C-L) who had intended to create Jack O. Gross (T-H-L) before disappearing and leaving it to the entirely unrelated Jg10101 (T-C-L) to create the article.
Absolutely none of which is the slightest bit of evidence for any possible conflict of interest, obviously... :evilgrin:

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:56 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:54 am
eppur si muove wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:46 am
I see that Josh E. Gross (T-H-L) was created by Joshg0788 (T-C-L) who had intended to create Jack O. Gross (T-H-L) before disappearing and leaving it to the entirely unrelated Jg10101 (T-C-L) to create the article.
Absolutely none of which is the slightest bit of evidence for any possible conflict of interest, obviously... :evilgrin:
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Unread post by Elinruby » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:58 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:56 pm
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:54 am
eppur si muove wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:46 am
I see that Josh E. Gross (T-H-L) was created by Joshg0788 (T-C-L) who had intended to create Jack O. Gross (T-H-L) before disappearing and leaving it to the entirely unrelated Jg10101 (T-C-L) to create the article.
Absolutely none of which is the slightest bit of evidence for any possible conflict of interest, obviously... :evilgrin:
OUTIST!!!!!
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Re: Crap articles

Unread post by Háčky » Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:44 am

Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
The article starts off strong with six citations in the first sentence, one to say that there is a place with that name and five to say that buses drive past it from time to time. It packs in far more information per word than the typical Wikipedia lead, trusting that readers will understand on their own that the Encino Park and Ride is a park and ride in Encino. However, the article could still be improved by removing the unsourced second sentence. The infobox should also be pared down, as it will be difficult to keep it updated with the number of free parking spaces as commuters come and go throughout the day.

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Unread post by Ryuichi » Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:01 am

Háčky wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:44 am
Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
The infobox should also be pared down, as it will be difficult to keep it updated with the number of free parking spaces as commuters come and go throughout the day.
I believe that may be "free as in beer", not free as in unoccupied.

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Unread post by Háčky » Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:34 am

Ryuichi wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:01 am
Háčky wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:44 am
The infobox should also be pared down, as it will be difficult to keep it updated with the number of free parking spaces as commuters come and go throughout the day.
I believe that may be "free as in beer", not free as in unoccupied.
This issue should be addressed at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Parking lots.

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Unread post by rnu » Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:18 pm

Béatrice d'Hirson (T-H-L)
Béatrice d'Hirson (fl. 14th century) was a lady-in-waiting to the French noblewoman Mahaut, Countess of Artois.

Family
Béatrice's sister Mathilde (or Mahaut) d'Hirson was also a lady-in-waiting to the Countess.
Béatrice's uncles were as follows:
- Thierry Larchier d'Hirson, Bishop of Arras
- Denis d'Hirson, treasurer to the Countess of Artois, then lord of Arras
- Guillaume d'Hirson, bailiff of Arras
- Pierre d'Hirson, attendant to the Countess of Artois
From what I can tell this is literally all that is known about this person. So why is there a Wikipedia article? Because
In fiction
Although an obscure historical figure, Béatrice is an important character in Maurice Druon's series of French historical novels, Les Rois maudits (The Accursed Kings). In the novels, she practices witchcraft and is adept with poisons. Les Rois maudits was adapted into two French television miniseries in 1972 and 2005, and Béatrice was played by Catherine Rouvel in the 1972,[1] and by Jeanne Balibar in 2005.[2]
Note that the only sources for the article are for who played her in the miniseries.
:fr:Béatrice d'Hirson (T-H-L) isn't any better. Except for making explicit just how obscure this person was:
[...] cette obscure suivante, simplement mentionnée dans les archives comme faisant partie de la maison de Mahaut d'Artois [...]
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Re: Crap articles

Unread post by Ming » Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:05 am

Háčky wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:44 am
Ming wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 pm
Encino Park and Ride (T-H-L)
The article starts off strong with six citations in the first sentence, one to say that there is a place with that name and five to say that buses drive past it from time to time. It packs in far more information per word than the typical Wikipedia lead, trusting that readers will understand on their own that the Encino Park and Ride is a park and ride in Encino. However, the article could still be improved by removing the unsourced second sentence. The infobox should also be pared down, as it will be difficult to keep it updated with the number of free parking spaces as commuters come and go throughout the day.
... and deleted by Daniel (T-C-L), who for some Ming-suspects-inclusionist-reason ignores the way the WP:SNOW is blowing and offers to "undelete and replace with a redirect to preserve history per AtD" if someone wants to do a merge, which nobody wanted to do.

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Unread post by Dan of La Mancha » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pm

List of circles in Washington, D.C. (T-H-L)

This could have been a very extensive list; thankfully, it only covers traffic circles (aka. roundabouts). The talk page documents some of the original research that went into its creation.

That was in 2006; since then, most of the edits to the article have been from various editors adding unnamed circles that they've spotted, or leaving commentary along the lines of "not a true circle," "more of a semicircle," etc. The last substantive edit was from Scooteristi in 2021, who removed one from the list because "it's not a circle," but then added a section titled "Squares", throwing the article scope into total disarray.

I suppose we can be grateful that the article creator was a Washington fan rather than a circle fan, and didn't create a whole series of "List of circles in X".
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Unread post by rnu » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:17 pm

Dan of La Mancha wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pm
List of circles in Washington, D.C. (T-H-L)

This could have been a very extensive list; thankfully, it only covers traffic circles (aka. roundabouts). The talk page documents some of the original research that went into its creation.

That was in 2006; since then, most of the edits to the article have been from various editors adding unnamed circles that they've spotted, or leaving commentary along the lines of "not a true circle," "more of a semicircle," etc. The last substantive edit was from Scooteristi in 2021, who removed one from the list because "it's not a circle," but then added a section titled "Squares", throwing the article scope into total disarray.

I suppose we can be grateful that the article creator was a Washington fan rather than a circle fan, and didn't create a whole series of "List of circles in X".
:rotfl:
The only thing that is even weirder is that there is also a Spanish version: :es:Anexo:Rotondas en Washington D. C. (T-H-L)
And then there are
Rotaries in Massachusetts (T-H-L)
List of traffic circles in New Jersey (T-H-L)
Category:Roundabouts_and_traffic_circles_in_the_United_States (T-H-L)
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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm

Dan of La Mancha wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pm
List of circles in Washington, D.C. (T-H-L)

This could have been a very extensive list; thankfully, it only covers traffic circles (aka. roundabouts). The talk page documents some of the original research that went into its creation.

That was in 2006; since then, most of the edits to the article have been from various editors adding unnamed circles that they've spotted, or leaving commentary along the lines of "not a true circle," "more of a semicircle," etc. The last substantive edit was from Scooteristi in 2021, who removed one from the list because "it's not a circle," but then added a section titled "Squares", throwing the article scope into total disarray.

I suppose we can be grateful that the article creator was a Washington fan rather than a circle fan, and didn't create a whole series of "List of circles in X".
Tenley Circle is a traffic circle in the Northwest Washington, D.C. neighborhood of Tenleytown. Tenley Circle lies at the intersection of Nebraska Avenue, Wisconsin Avenue, and Yuma Street. Unlike many of the circles in Washington, Tenley's traffic pattern has evolved such that the dominant roadway, Wisconsin Avenue, can pass straight through the center instead of going around the outside circumference.
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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:39 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm
Dan of La Mancha wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pm
List of circles in Washington, D.C. (T-H-L)

This could have been a very extensive list; thankfully, it only covers traffic circles (aka. roundabouts). The talk page documents some of the original research that went into its creation.

That was in 2006; since then, most of the edits to the article have been from various editors adding unnamed circles that they've spotted, or leaving commentary along the lines of "not a true circle," "more of a semicircle," etc. The last substantive edit was from Scooteristi in 2021, who removed one from the list because "it's not a circle," but then added a section titled "Squares", throwing the article scope into total disarray.

I suppose we can be grateful that the article creator was a Washington fan rather than a circle fan, and didn't create a whole series of "List of circles in X".
Tenley Circle is a traffic circle in the Northwest Washington, D.C. neighborhood of Tenleytown. Tenley Circle lies at the intersection of Nebraska Avenue, Wisconsin Avenue, and Yuma Street. Unlike many of the circles in Washington, Tenley's traffic pattern has evolved such that the dominant roadway, Wisconsin Avenue, can pass straight through the center instead of going around the outside circumference.
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Unread post by Elinruby » Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:08 am

Dan of La Mancha wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pm
List of circles in Washington, D.C. (T-H-L)

This could have been a very extensive list; thankfully, it only covers traffic circles (aka. roundabouts). The talk page documents some of the original research that went into its creation.

That was in 2006; since then, most of the edits to the article have been from various editors adding unnamed circles that they've spotted, or leaving commentary along the lines of "not a true circle," "more of a semicircle," etc. The last substantive edit was from Scooteristi in 2021, who removed one from the list because "it's not a circle," but then added a section titled "Squares", throwing the article scope into total disarray.

I suppose we can be grateful that the article creator was a Washington fan rather than a circle fan, and didn't create a whole series of "List of circles in X".
:rotfl:

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:49 am

Boat building (T-H-L). The part about aluminum construction, added as some drive-by COI, is particularly hilarious.

PS: What is it with New Zealand and parochial articles?

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:04 pm

While on our nautical kick, take a look at fender pier (T-H-L), which, except for one glossary definition, one paragraph, and one photo, is entirely sourced to spam, and entirely about a different subject.

PS: Note that the proper definition of the pictured thing is already (badly) covered at Starling (structure) (T-H-L).
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Unread post by Bezdomni » Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:25 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm
Dan of La Mancha wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pm
List of circles in Washington, D.C. (T-H-L)

Tenley Circle is a traffic circle [...] Wisconsin Avenue can pass straight through [...].
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No doubt. With an elephant runway like that maybe it could be renamed Trump Circus.
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Unread post by Paragon Deku » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 pm

How the Steel was Tempered (T-H-L)

Apparently, one of the best selling books of all time can't crack more than five citations. The only English language citation is also a very succinct two paragraph description of the book, which spends more time ragging on Soviet Realism than actually talking about the context and content of the book.

(Edit: Checking JSTOR, the book has 22k+ hits and several dozen articles focusing entirely on its content and impact. It's times like this I wish I wasn't banned ): )

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:57 pm

Michi (cat) (T-H-L).

Talk about yer trivial, ephemeral, not-news garbage.

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Unread post by Zoloft » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:12 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:57 pm
Michi (cat) (T-H-L).

Talk about yer trivial, ephemeral, not-news garbage.

PS: Featured, naturally, on Today’s Disgrace o’ the Day, Do You Kare section.
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Unread post by C&B » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:26 pm

What was a slow news day at CNN, NYT, NPR etc means it will never be deleted... :hrmph:
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Unread post by rnu » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:59 am

Where is Kate? (T-H-L)
Tabloid speculation with some conspiracy theory thrown in about Catherine, Princess of Wales (T-H-L) plus an edited photo.
Unsurprisingly the deletion discussion is the most active ongoing AfD (permanent link) with 42 votes in three days (second place has 23 votes in 22 days). Just as unsurprising is that there is strong support for keeping the article (1 speedy keep, 22 keep, 4 merge vs. 7 deletes and 8 "other" votes). I guess we're lucky that it's just one article. I'm actually surprised that the Mother's Day photo hasn't been spun out (yet).
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Unread post by orangepi » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:33 pm

from Janesville, Iowa (T-H-L):
Janesville was founded in 1849 by John T. Barrick, a Quaker and abolitionist who had relocated to Iowa from Ohio. According to the book, "The Janesvillians, Volumes I and II" by Maxine Leonard, John T. Barrick built the first mill and frame house in the area. He platted the town of Janesville, which he named in honor of his wife, Jane McPherson Barrick.

It has been established that a tunnel once existed under the business district of Janesville. The tunnel ran between basements and below buildings on both sides of Janesville's Main Street, crossing below the street in the center of town and continuing westward to the Cedar River. One branch of the tunnel continued northward, connecting to the site of Fort John, a shelter built to protect settlers during the Ho-Chunk uprising in June, 1854.[5] The tunnel terminated in the basement of the home of Abel Crail, who later served in Union Army in the American Civil War, and was the first Commander of Janesville Post No. 172, Grand Army of the Republic. According to local legend, the Barricks and other townsfolk sympathetic to their cause aided in the escape of runaway slaves as part of the Underground Railroad. Slaves were moved through Janesville from Grinnell and continued to Decorah and into southeastern Minnesota. The tunnel has since been filled in and no longer exists, so some say. It is questioned by others whether or not this is true. People claim to have seen these tunnels and that in fact they still exist to this day.[3]

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Unread post by rnu » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:53 pm

orangepi wrote:
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from Janesville, Iowa (T-H-L):
Janesville was founded in 1849 by John T. Barrick, a Quaker and abolitionist who had relocated to Iowa from Ohio. According to the book, "The Janesvillians, Volumes I and II" by Maxine Leonard, John T. Barrick built the first mill and frame house in the area. He platted the town of Janesville, which he named in honor of his wife, Jane McPherson Barrick.

It has been established that a tunnel once existed under the business district of Janesville. The tunnel ran between basements and below buildings on both sides of Janesville's Main Street, crossing below the street in the center of town and continuing westward to the Cedar River. One branch of the tunnel continued northward, connecting to the site of Fort John, a shelter built to protect settlers during the Ho-Chunk uprising in June, 1854.[5] The tunnel terminated in the basement of the home of Abel Crail, who later served in Union Army in the American Civil War, and was the first Commander of Janesville Post No. 172, Grand Army of the Republic. According to local legend, the Barricks and other townsfolk sympathetic to their cause aided in the escape of runaway slaves as part of the Underground Railroad. Slaves were moved through Janesville from Grinnell and continued to Decorah and into southeastern Minnesota. The tunnel has since been filled in and no longer exists, so some say. It is questioned by others whether or not this is true. People claim to have seen these tunnels and that in fact they still exist to this day.[3]
Note that the reference at "[5]" says nothing about a tunnel (and is not an RS). I don't have access to the source for "[3]", but it doesn't look like a particularly reliable source either. It was published by the "Quasqui Centennial Committee, Janesville, Iowa, 1974". It appears to be a kind of "oral history" compiled by an amateur (local) historian.
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Unread post by Ron Lybonly » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:32 am

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Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:53 pm
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Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:33 pm
from Janesville, Iowa (T-H-L):
Janesville was founded in 1849 by John T. Barrick, a Quaker and abolitionist who had relocated to Iowa from Ohio. According to the book, "The Janesvillians, Volumes I and II" by Maxine Leonard, John T. Barrick built the first mill and frame house in the area. He platted the town of Janesville, which he named in honor of his wife, Jane McPherson Barrick.

It has been established that a tunnel once existed under the business district of Janesville. The tunnel ran between basements and below buildings on both sides of Janesville's Main Street, crossing below the street in the center of town and continuing westward to the Cedar River. One branch of the tunnel continued northward, connecting to the site of Fort John, a shelter built to protect settlers during the Ho-Chunk uprising in June, 1854.[5] The tunnel terminated in the basement of the home of Abel Crail, who later served in Union Army in the American Civil War, and was the first Commander of Janesville Post No. 172, Grand Army of the Republic. According to local legend, the Barricks and other townsfolk sympathetic to their cause aided in the escape of runaway slaves as part of the Underground Railroad. Slaves were moved through Janesville from Grinnell and continued to Decorah and into southeastern Minnesota. The tunnel has since been filled in and no longer exists, so some say. It is questioned by others whether or not this is true. People claim to have seen these tunnels and that in fact they still exist to this day.[3]
Note that the reference at "[5]" says nothing about a tunnel (and is not an RS). I don't have access to the source for "[3]", but it doesn't look like a particularly reliable source either. It was published by the "Quasqui Centennial Committee, Janesville, Iowa, 1974". It appears to be a kind of "oral history" compiled by an amateur (local) historian.
I suspect ground penetrating radar might show the filled-in tunnel; the dirt density and type is probably different.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:09 pm

From the allegedly 'good article' Models of communication (T-H-L):
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Unread post by Berberis » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:16 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:57 pm
Michi (cat) (T-H-L).

Talk about yer trivial, ephemeral, not-news garbage.

PS: Featured, naturally, on Today’s Disgrace o’ the Day, Do You Kare section.
It's ironic that this was created by BilledMammal (T-C-L) who has been quite vocal about Wikipedia having too many article on non-notable subjects. It seems the only other article BilledMammal has created recently is Marlin Luanda missile strike (T-H-L), which also doesn't strike me as particularly notable.

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Unread post by Sennalen » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:00 pm

Political hypocrisy (T-H-L)
Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV

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Unread post by rnu » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:27 pm

Sennalen wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:00 pm
Political hypocrisy (T-H-L)
Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV
The article author is Ghazaalch (T-C-L). They created the article after their article United States hypocrisy was deleted.
Some of their other article creations are:
Accusation of US complicity in Israel's war crimes in Gaza (T-H-L)
United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war (T-H-L)
United States militarism (T-H-L)
U.S. policy toward authoritarian governments (T-H-L) (created after their article Alleged western support of dictators was deleted)
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Unread post by Sennalen » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:59 pm

rnu wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:27 pm
The article author is Ghazaalch (T-C-L). They created the article after their article United States hypocrisy was deleted.
How does someone go on such a bender of batteground pov pushing without getting slapped down? It's totally obvious the agenda here is to find as may ways as possible to say "United States bad". The only one that could be a legitimate topic to write an article about is United States militarism (T-H-L) but a lot of things I would expect to see in such an article: First Barbary war (T-H-L), Gunboat diplomacy (T-H-L), Big Stick ideology (T-H-L), Pax Americana (T-H-L), Military industrial complex (T-H-L), Guns versus butter model (T-H-L), Reagan doctrine (T-H-L), or Militarization_of_police#United_States (T-H-L) are all missing.

What it does have is a couple of authors criticizing W. Bush, and a theory from Mark Twain that foreign wars are trial runs for systems of oppression at home.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:02 pm

Sennalen wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:00 pm
Political hypocrisy (T-H-L)
Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV
I'm tempted to AfD that, with the rationale "A total crock of shite". No doubt that would be contested, on the basis that there's nothing in Wikipedia policy that disbars crock-of-shite articles, but I'm fairly certain it would succeed anyway, per WP:IAR if nothing else. Even the 'community' (or enough of them) must surely be capable of figuring out that it isn't possible to write an article on that nebulous topic that isn't going to be either random contributors opinions/coatracking, backed up by cherry-picked sources, or a sprawling unintelligible mess that contains absolutely anything remotely connectable with the subject: or most likely, both. If indeed there is a subject at all. Personally, I'd argue (as someone who has studied political anthropology), that the 'subject' is merely the intersection of two essentially universal aspects of human behaviour: hypocrisy and politics. Put a few dozen people together for any length of time, and both will become evident. If they don't, you are clearly actually studying shape-shifting lizards, or some other form of non-hominid. Hobbes was no doubt of a similar opinion, though I tend to be sceptical of people who cite him, given just how easy he is to cherry-pick for platitudes.

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Unread post by rnu » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:32 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:02 pm
Sennalen wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:00 pm
Political hypocrisy (T-H-L)
Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV
I'm tempted to AfD that, with the rationale "A total crock of shite". No doubt that would be contested, on the basis that there's nothing in Wikipedia policy that disbars crock-of-shite articles, but I'm fairly certain it would succeed anyway, per WP:IAR if nothing else. Even the 'community' (or enough of them) must surely be capable of figuring out that it isn't possible to write an article on that nebulous topic that isn't going to be either random contributors opinions/coatracking, backed up by cherry-picked sources, or a sprawling unintelligible mess that contains absolutely anything remotely connectable with the subject: or most likely, both. If indeed there is a subject at all. Personally, I'd argue (as someone who has studied political anthropology), that the 'subject' is merely the intersection of two essentially universal aspects of human behaviour: hypocrisy and politics. Put a few dozen people together for any length of time, and both will become evident. If they don't, you are clearly actually studying shape-shifting lizards, or some other form of non-hominid. Hobbes was no doubt of a similar opinion, though I tend to be sceptical of people who cite him, given just how easy he is to cherry-pick for platitudes.
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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:37 pm

rnu wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:32 pm
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:02 pm
Sennalen wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:00 pm
Political hypocrisy (T-H-L)
Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV
I'm tempted to AfD that, with the rationale "A total crock of shite". No doubt that would be contested, on the basis that there's nothing in Wikipedia policy that disbars crock-of-shite articles, but I'm fairly certain it would succeed anyway, per WP:IAR if nothing else. Even the 'community' (or enough of them) must surely be capable of figuring out that it isn't possible to write an article on that nebulous topic that isn't going to be either random contributors opinions/coatracking, backed up by cherry-picked sources, or a sprawling unintelligible mess that contains absolutely anything remotely connectable with the subject: or most likely, both. If indeed there is a subject at all. Personally, I'd argue (as someone who has studied political anthropology), that the 'subject' is merely the intersection of two essentially universal aspects of human behaviour: hypocrisy and politics. Put a few dozen people together for any length of time, and both will become evident. If they don't, you are clearly actually studying shape-shifting lizards, or some other form of non-hominid. Hobbes was no doubt of a similar opinion, though I tend to be sceptical of people who cite him, given just how easy he is to cherry-pick for platitudes.
WP:Articles for deletion/Political hypocrisy (T-H-L)
That is almost incomprehensibly absurd, even for Wikipedia. How could anyone possibly think that the stringing together of two words in common usage would constitute a 'neologism'?

Anybody here got access to a time machine? I want to go back and bump off Tim Berners-Lee before he makes this idiocy possible.

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:36 pm

Bulkhead (partition) (T-H-L).

The etymology section is particularly fragrant.

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Unread post by Paragon Deku » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:58 am

Vietnam War POW/MIA issue (T-H-L) reads like it was written by an advocacy group. Peppered with saccharine eulogies to how the POW/MIA issue is “diminished… but not gone” and how Americans can still see the flag flying…
The article seems to dance around the little problem (outside of snippets related to denial by the American Government) that such an issue is moot given there are assuredly no American POWs left in Vietnam, and any marked MIA are most certainly dead or do not want to be found.

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Unread post by Háčky » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:14 am

Template:American TV by channel number (T-H-L) links to over a hundred separate lists that (as far as I could be bothered to check) are sourced only to the databases of the FCC and rabbitears.info, because the mainstream media refuses to cover important topics like “channels numbered 28”. Thankfully, the databases are both extremely informative:
FCC
Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?" on this server.
Reference #18.4518d017.1711595332.13070cbd

https://errors.edgesuite.net/18.4518d01 ... 2.13070cbd
rabbitears.info
Could not run query: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'AS fac_callsign, (CASE WHEN a.channel_fix THEN a.channel_fix ELSE af.afac_channe' at line 1 SELECT /*+ MAX_EXECUTION_TIME(18000) */ f.display_channel, r.dma_id, f.community_served_city AS comm_city, f.community_served_state AS comm_state, f.owner, IF(l.asrn_fix, l.asrn_fix, l.aloc_asrn) AS asrn, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lat_dir, l.aloc_lat_dir) AS lat_dir, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lat_deg, l.aloc_lat_deg) AS lat_deg, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lat_mm, l.aloc_lat_mm) AS lat_min, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lat_ss, l.aloc_lat_ss) AS lat_sec, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lon_dir, l.aloc_long_dir) AS lon_dir, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lon_deg, l.aloc_long_deg) AS lon_deg, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lon_mm, l.aloc_long_mm) AS lon_min, IF(l.cf_ind = 'Y', l.cf_lon_ss, l.aloc_long_ss) AS lon_sec, l.aloc_loc_seq_id, a.aapp_file_num, f.facility_status AS fac_status, af.country_code AS fac_country, IF(l.rcamsl_fix, l.rcamsl_fix, n.aant_rc_amsl) AS rcamsl_horiz_mtr, IF(l.hagl_fix, l.hagl_fix, n.aant_rc_hag) AS hag_rc_mtr, IF(a.svc_code_fix IS NULL OR a.svc_code_fix = '', v.service_code, a.svc_code_fix) AS vsd_service, a.aapp_application_id AS application_id, IF(l.erp_fix, l.erp_fix, q.aafq_power_erp_kw) AS effective_erp, l.vertical_erp, IF(n.aant_rc_haat = 0 OR l.haat_invalid = 'Y', l.calc_haat, n.aant_rc_haat) AS haat_rc_mtr, IF(a.channel_fix, a.channel_fix, af.afac_channel) AS station_channel, f.facility_id, v.*, v.active_ind AS eng_record_type, IF(l.ant_type IS NULL OR l.ant_type = '', n.aant_antenna_type_code, l.ant_type) AS antenna_type, IF(l.ant_pattern IS NULL OR l.ant_pattern = '', n.aant_antenna_record_id, l.ant_pattern) AS antenna_id, IF(l.pol_fix IS NULL OR l.pol_fix = '', n.aant_polarization, l.pol_fix) AS ant_polarization, IF(l.ant_rotation, l.ant_rotation, n.aant_rotation_deg) AS ant_rotation, f.callsign AS fac_callsign, a.aapp_file_num AS app_arn, l.aloc_loc_seq_id AS site_number, n.aant_mechanical_deg, n.aant_true_deg, l.mech_type, l.mech_rotation, l.mech_pattern, fp.party_name FROM facility_lms f INNER JOIN application_facility af ON f.facility_id = af.afac_facility_id INNER JOIN application_lms a ON af.afac_application_id = a.aapp_application_id INNER JOIN license_filing_version v ON a.aapp_application_id = v.filing_version_id INNER JOIN app_location l ON a.aapp_application_id = l.aloc_aapp_application_id INNER JOIN app_antenna n ON l.aloc_loc_record_id = n.aant_aloc_loc_record_id INNER JOIN app_antenna_frequency q ON n.aant_antenna_record_id = q.aafq_aant_antenna_record_id LEFT JOIN facility_applicant fp ON f.facility_uuid = fp.facility_uuid AND fp.contact_ind = 'N' INNER JOIN facility_contact_information fi ON fi.contact_info_id = fp.contact_info_id LEFT JOIN dma_rel r ON f.facility_id = r.facility_id AND r.priority = 1 WHERE f.display_channel >= '42' AND f.display_channel <= '42' AND (v.active_ind = 'Y' OR a.active_record = 'V') AND (a.active_record <> 'N' || a.active_record IS NULL) AND v.purpose_code <> 'SCH' AND v.original_purpose_code <> 'SCH' AND fp.last_update_ts = (SELECT MAX(fp1.last_update_ts) FROM facility_applicant fp1 WHERE fp1.contact_ind= 'N' AND fp1.facility_uuid = f.facility_uuid) AND (v.purpose_code IN('L2C','CP','RUL','MOD','STA','EXT') OR v.original_purpose_code IN('L2C','CP','RUL','MOD','STA','EXT')) AND v.sub_purpose_code NOT IN('LEG','SIL','SSL') AND v.purpose_code NOT IN('WDR') AND (CASE WHEN (a.svc_code_fix IS NULL OR a.svc_code_fix = '') THEN v.service_code IN('DTV','DTS','DTX','DCA','LPD','LPT','DRT','LDTS','CDTS') ELSE a.svc_code_fix IN('DTV','DTS','DTX','DCA','LPD','LPT','DRT','LDTS','CDTS') END) ORDER BY f.callsign AS fac_callsign, (CASE WHEN a.channel_fix THEN a.channel_fix ELSE af.afac_channel END), f.facility_id, a.aapp_receipt_date ASC No records found!
I especially like the fact that Channel 1 branded TV stations in the United States (T-H-L) “is sorted ascending by call sign; click on any of the arrows to change how the table is sorted.” None of the lists with more than one entry seem to have that feature.

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Unread post by Ming » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 am

According to List of fatal dog attacks in the United States (T-H-L) nobody was killed by a dog before 2005.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:38 am

Ming wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 am
According to List of fatal dog attacks in the United States (T-H-L) nobody was killed by a dog before 2005.
See column 3 in the tables for what this article is actually about.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:24 pm

Wankel engine (T-H-L)

Not a crap article as such. In fact I'd say that it does a reasonable enough job of explaining how these engines work, if you already understand ordinary piston engines. Unfortunately though, it dedicates what seems to me to be an inordinate amount of space to a discussion concerning how you measure the displacement of the thing:
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...and so on.

Does one formula really need five citations? And is all this maths really necessary? What percentage of readers will want to see all the formulae for competing approaches to the question? At a guess, I'd say none. Not unless they are already familiar with what seems to be some sort of obscure exercise in applied maths and nit-picking semantics, and want to join in. Unless I'm missing something, regardless of which formula you apply, you get the same end result anyway. Suck-squeeze-bang-blow, working with the usual rules of thermodynamics to give the expected output.

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Unread post by orangepi » Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:54 pm

List of Five grains in world culture (T-H-L)

How has this word-salad persisted for 13 years?
Five grains, traditional set phrase for lists or groupings which may contain non-grain crops.[citation needed] Particular instances of Five grains of a single crop or other substance such as minerals and metals have historical or cultural significance as well.[1]

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:15 am

orangepi wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:54 pm
List of Five grains in world culture (T-H-L)

How has this word-salad persisted for 13 years?
Five grains, traditional set phrase for lists or groupings which may contain non-grain crops.[citation needed] Particular instances of Five grains of a single crop or other substance such as minerals and metals have historical or cultural significance as well.[1]
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Unread post by Alalch Emis » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:04 pm

2011: diff
:)
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2014: diff, diff
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Unread post by Black Kite » Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:38 pm

rnu wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:59 am
Where is Kate? (T-H-L)
Tabloid speculation with some conspiracy theory thrown in about Catherine, Princess of Wales (T-H-L) plus an edited photo.
Unsurprisingly the deletion discussion is the most active ongoing AfD (permanent link) with 42 votes in three days (second place has 23 votes in 22 days). Just as unsurprising is that there is strong support for keeping the article (1 speedy keep, 22 keep, 4 merge vs. 7 deletes and 8 "other" votes). I guess we're lucky that it's just one article. I'm actually surprised that the Mother's Day photo hasn't been spun out (yet).
Now back at AfD for a 3rd time, with the general consensus going somewhat differently on this iteration...

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination) (T-H-L)

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Unread post by ltbdl » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:05 am

Christell (T-H-L) makes a pretty good running for worst blp
if you are reading this then you maybe are suffering maybe paranoia perhaps (or not)...

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