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Unread post by Elinruby » Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:41 pm

Hmm link above was intended to go to Two more examples of good government usage, doh. BBcode advice invited, But there's two more examples for the "good=government" usage there.

I also feel the need to point out Goo Goo Cluster (T-H-L) and Goo Goo Dolls (T-H-L)

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Tse Tin Yau (T-H-L). An article about a football/soccer player from Hong Kong. Tagged as unreferenced since 2010. Most recent information (and only information about his career): he played 18 games for a reserve team in Hong Kong in the 2008-2009 season.
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György Enyedi (geographer) (T-H-L)
Until today he has led a high number of international research projects.
He's been dead since 2012.
Occupation(s): geographer, economist, the father of regional science in Hungary
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Shadowland Theatre (T-H-L)
incorporated in 1994
Founded: 1983
founded in 1982
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Battle of Mbororé (T-H-L)
The Battle of Mbororé was a battle between the Guaraní living in the Jesuit Missions and the bandeirantes, explorers and adventurers based in São Paulo.
"Explorers and adventurers"? Slavers, the Bandeirantes (T-H-L) were first and foremost slavers.
Need for Slaves and the beginning of the 'bandeiras'
OK, they enslaved tens of thousands of people because there was a "need for slaves". I guess it's fine then.
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Unread post by tarantino » Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:33 am

2002 Quebec municipal elections (T-H-L), started by admin CJCurrie (T-C-L) in 2010.
One hundred and seventy-two municipalities in the Canadian province of Quebec held mayoral and council elections in late 2002. Most held their elections on November 3, although a small number chose alternate dates.
So far there is one election listed, that for the Mayor of Cowansville with the candidate Arthur Fauteux (T-H-L). That redirects to 2009 Cowansville municipal election (T-H-L).

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Unread post by Elinruby » Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:49 am

rnu wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:49 pm
Shadowland Theatre (T-H-L)
incorporated in 1994
Founded: 1983
founded in 1982
:dubious:
Agree they were slavers. No question. That word shows up a lot in Brazilian history articles. I mean,, a LOT. There was a huge plantation economy. I remember cleaning up a bunch of that glorious-explorer stuff. history of.Sao.Paulo but I''m not even slightly surprised that you found more.

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Unread post by rnu » Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:09 am

Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (T-H-L)
The recognition section is hilariously bad:
Recognition
  • This site's brief 2001 review by a Ziff Davis publication begins "Despite this online dictionary’s pale user interface, it offers impressive functionality."[3]
  • Oxford University Press knows of them,[4] and notes that it "is maintained by volunteers."
  • A university tells its students that FOLDOC can be used to find information about "companies, projects, history, in fact any of the vocabulary you might expect to find in a computer dictionary."[5]
Edit: the section was written by Pi314m (T-C-L). The name has come up before.
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Anatole Boris Volkov (T-H-L)
Lead wrote:Anatole Boris Volkov (October 29, 1924 – November 28, 2000) was an American physicist, allegedly serving as a courier for the Silvermaster spy ring between Washington, D.C., and New York City.[citation needed] Volkov taught both abroad and in America, retiring in the United States 1989. Though Volkov's name appears in the FBI's files, he was never convicted of any espionage by the U.S. government.
The only mention of the "Silvermaster spy ring" in the body is:
After her divorce, his mother married Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, head of the Silvermaster group who spied for the Soviet Union during World War II.
Meanwhile the infobox claims:
Known for Silvermaster spy ring
The article's "sources" are:
- his California birth record
- his PhD thesis
- a death notice on the homepage of his university
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rnu wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:55 am
Anatole Boris Volkov (T-H-L)
Lead wrote:Anatole Boris Volkov (October 29, 1924 – November 28, 2000) was an American physicist, allegedly serving as a courier for the Silvermaster spy ring between Washington, D.C., and New York City.[citation needed] Volkov taught both abroad and in America, retiring in the United States 1989. Though Volkov's name appears in the FBI's files, he was never convicted of any espionage by the U.S. government.
The only mention of the "Silvermaster spy ring" in the body is:
After her divorce, his mother married Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, head of the Silvermaster group who spied for the Soviet Union during World War II.
Meanwhile the infobox claims:
Known for Silvermaster spy ring
The article's "sources" are:
- his California birth record
- his PhD thesis
- a death notice on the homepage of his university
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Unread post by rnu » Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:37 am

Architecture's Desire (T-H-L)
Architecture's Desire: Reading the Late Avant-Garde (2010) is a book written by American architecture theorist K. Michael Hays, published by MIT Press.[1] According to WorldCat, the book is held in 1009 libraries.[2]

The book has been reviewed by Mark Linder in Journal of Architectural Education;[3] Peggy Deamer in The Journal of Architecture,;[4] and Sarah Butler in Journal of Design History.[5]
That's it. That's the whole article.
And it is now in 1755 libraries according to WorldCat.
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Unread post by eppur si muove » Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:11 pm

rnu wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:37 am
Architecture's Desire (T-H-L)
Architecture's Desire: Reading the Late Avant-Garde (2010) is a book written by American architecture theorist K. Michael Hays, published by MIT Press.[1] According to WorldCat, the book is held in 1009 libraries.[2]

The book has been reviewed by Mark Linder in Journal of Architectural Education;[3] Peggy Deamer in The Journal of Architecture,;[4] and Sarah Butler in Journal of Design History.[5]
That's it. That's the whole article.
And it is now in 1755 libraries according to WorldCat.
The creator of the article was almost certainly a Harvard student at the time creating promotional stuff about their lecturers.

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Unread post by Ritchie333 » Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:41 pm

Embryo (Pink Floyd song) (T-H-L)

Now, I'm a bit of a Floyd nut, to the extent I have, on at least one occasion, challenged a claim in one of Andy Mabbett's books as being factually incorrect. However, I was surprised to find this article has been chock full of unreferenced fancruft for over 16 years.

Elsewhere, I notice the Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP (T-H-L) is regularly turning up to articles with various IPs and socks complaining that "nobody's fixed this crap in 15 years". Seems to be a common trend these days.

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Unread post by Zoll » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:38 pm

German revolutions of 1848–1849 (T-H-L),

more than half the citations are from publications by Marx and Engels, primary sources written from a heavy communist/revolutionary perspective, which have serious Bias and RS issues, and possibly even UNDUE issues.

For a topic with this amount of coverage and historical significance, this article is an F.

38% of it was written by WellsSouth (T-C-L) (1), who's been banned for copyvios, he added the text, and cited Marx for it. (2)

He's created multiple stubs in the past, also using publications from Marx and Engels, which weren't notable. (3)

Because I'm Hobbylos, I had a bibliography of possible sources lying around (Note: Some of these are specialized, or only have a few chapters related to the topic):

Bauer, Joachim, Stefan Gerber, and Christopher Spehr, eds. Das Wartburgfest von 1817 als europäisches Ereignis. 1st ed. Franz Steiner Verlag, 2019. https://doi.org/10.25162/9783515125819.
Berger, Helge, and Mark Spoerer. ‘ECONOMIC CRISES AND THE EUROPEAN REVOLUTIONS OF 1848’. The Journal of Economic History 61, no. 2 (June 2001): 293–326. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022050701028029.
Breuilly, John. ‘Nation and Nationalism in Modern German History’. The Historical Journal 33, no. 3 (September 1990): 659–75. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0018246X90000025.
Carmichael, Cathie, Matthew D’Auria, and Aviel Roshwald, eds. The Cambridge History of Nationhood and Nationalism: Volume 1, Patterns and Trajectories over the Longue Durée. Cambridge University Press, 2023.
Carver, Terrell, and James Farr, eds. The Cambridge Companion to The Communist Manifesto. Cambridge Companions to Philosophy. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2015. https://doi.org/10.1017/CCO9781139583404.
Coupe, W. A. ‘The German Cartoon and the Revolution of 1848’. Comparative Studies in Society and History 9, no. 2 (January 1967): 137–67. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0010417500004436.
Curti, Merle. ‘The Impact of the Revolutions of 1848 on American Thought’. Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society 93, no. 3 (1949): 209–15.
Cyranka, Daniel. ‘Religious Revolutionaries and Spiritualism in Germany around 1848’. Aries 16, no. 1 (1 January 2016): 13–48. https://doi.org/10.1163/15700593-01601002.
Evans, Robert, and Hartmut Pogge von Strandmann. The Revolutions in Europe, 1848–1849: From Reform to Reaction. Oxford University Press, 2002. https://doi.org/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780 ... 8.001.0001.
Friedlander, F. ‘The Making of Modern Europe: In Memory of the Great Revolution in 1848’. The Australian Quarterly 20, no. 4 (1948): 39–43. https://doi.org/10.2307/20633103.
Gouldner, Alvin W. ‘Artisans and Intellectuals in the German Revolution of 1848’. Theory and Society 12, no. 4 (1983): 521–32.
Groot, Emile de. ‘Contemporary Political Opinion and the Revolutions of 1848’. History 38, no. 133 (1953): 134–54.
Haffner, Sebastian. The Ailing Empire: Germany from Bismarck to Hitler. Plunkett Lake Press, 2019.
Hahn, H. J. The 1848 Revolutions in German-Speaking Europe. Routledge, 2014. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315839295.
Harcave, Sidney. ‘The Revolutions of 1848: Soviet Revised Version’. The Russian Review 14, no. 3 (1955): 233–40. https://doi.org/10.2307/125626.
Kissinger, Henry A. ‘The White Revolutionary: Reflections on Bismarck’. Daedalus 97, no. 3 (1968): 888–924.
Kober, Adolf. ‘Jews in the Revolution of 1848 in Germany’. Jewish Social Studies 10, no. 2 (1948): 135–64.
Körner, Axel, ed. 1848 — A European Revolution? London: Palgrave Macmillan UK, 2000. https://doi.org/10.1057/9781403919595.
Moggach, Douglas, and Gareth Stedman Jones, eds. The 1848 Revolutions and European Political Thought. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2018. https://doi.org/10.1017/9781316650974.
Müller, Frank Lorenz. Britain and the German Question. London: Palgrave Macmillan UK, 2002. https://doi.org/10.1057/9781403919663.
Orr, William J. ‘East Prussia and the Revolution of 1848’. Central European History 13, no. 4 (December 1980): 303–31. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0008938900009900.
Reiss, Matthias, ed. The Street as Stage: Protest Marches and Public Rallies Since the Nineteenth Century. Oxford University Press, 2007.
Scott, Hamish. ‘The Changing Face of the Holy Roman Empire’. Austrian History Yearbook 48 (April 2017): 269–80. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0067237816000680.
Sperber, Jonathan. ‘Festivals of National Unity in the German Revolution of 1848-1849’. Past & Present, no. 136 (1992): 114–38.
———. Rhineland Radicals: The Democratic Movement and the Revolution of 1848-1849. Princeton University Press, 1991.
Steger, Werner. ‘German Immigrants, the Revolution of 1848, and the Politics of Liberalism in Antebellum Richmond’. Yearbook of German-American Studies 34 (1 December 1999): 19–34. https://doi.org/10.17161/ygas.v34i.19119.
Whaley, Joachim. Germany and the Holy Roman Empire: Volume I: Maximilian I to the Peace of Westphalia, 1493-1648. OUP Oxford, 2011.

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2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:B ... WellsSouth, plus the extension Who Wrote That. (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Who_Wrote_That%3F)
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Unread post by rnu » Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:51 pm

Zoll wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:38 pm
German revolutions of 1848–1849 (T-H-L),

more than half the citations are from publications by Marx and Engels, primary sources written from a heavy communist/revolutionary perspective, which have serious Bias and RS issues, and possibly even UNDUE issues.

For a topic with this amount of coverage and historical significance, this article is an F.

38% of it was written by WellsSouth (T-C-L) (1), who's been banned for copyvios, he added the text, and cited Marx for it. (2)

He's created multiple stubs in the past, also using publications from Marx and Engels, which weren't notable. (3)

Because I'm Hobbylos, I had a bibliography of possible sources lying around (Note: Some of these are specialized, or only have a few chapters related to the topic):

Bauer, Joachim, Stefan Gerber, and Christopher Spehr, eds. Das Wartburgfest von 1817 als europäisches Ereignis. 1st ed. Franz Steiner Verlag, 2019. https://doi.org/10.25162/9783515125819.
Berger, Helge, and Mark Spoerer. ‘ECONOMIC CRISES AND THE EUROPEAN REVOLUTIONS OF 1848’. The Journal of Economic History 61, no. 2 (June 2001): 293–326. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022050701028029.
Breuilly, John. ‘Nation and Nationalism in Modern German History’. The Historical Journal 33, no. 3 (September 1990): 659–75. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0018246X90000025.
Carmichael, Cathie, Matthew D’Auria, and Aviel Roshwald, eds. The Cambridge History of Nationhood and Nationalism: Volume 1, Patterns and Trajectories over the Longue Durée. Cambridge University Press, 2023.
Carver, Terrell, and James Farr, eds. The Cambridge Companion to The Communist Manifesto. Cambridge Companions to Philosophy. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2015. https://doi.org/10.1017/CCO9781139583404.
Coupe, W. A. ‘The German Cartoon and the Revolution of 1848’. Comparative Studies in Society and History 9, no. 2 (January 1967): 137–67. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0010417500004436.
Curti, Merle. ‘The Impact of the Revolutions of 1848 on American Thought’. Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society 93, no. 3 (1949): 209–15.
Cyranka, Daniel. ‘Religious Revolutionaries and Spiritualism in Germany around 1848’. Aries 16, no. 1 (1 January 2016): 13–48. https://doi.org/10.1163/15700593-01601002.
Evans, Robert, and Hartmut Pogge von Strandmann. The Revolutions in Europe, 1848–1849: From Reform to Reaction. Oxford University Press, 2002. https://doi.org/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780 ... 8.001.0001.
Friedlander, F. ‘The Making of Modern Europe: In Memory of the Great Revolution in 1848’. The Australian Quarterly 20, no. 4 (1948): 39–43. https://doi.org/10.2307/20633103.
Gouldner, Alvin W. ‘Artisans and Intellectuals in the German Revolution of 1848’. Theory and Society 12, no. 4 (1983): 521–32.
Groot, Emile de. ‘Contemporary Political Opinion and the Revolutions of 1848’. History 38, no. 133 (1953): 134–54.
Haffner, Sebastian. The Ailing Empire: Germany from Bismarck to Hitler. Plunkett Lake Press, 2019.
Hahn, H. J. The 1848 Revolutions in German-Speaking Europe. Routledge, 2014. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315839295.
Harcave, Sidney. ‘The Revolutions of 1848: Soviet Revised Version’. The Russian Review 14, no. 3 (1955): 233–40. https://doi.org/10.2307/125626.
Kissinger, Henry A. ‘The White Revolutionary: Reflections on Bismarck’. Daedalus 97, no. 3 (1968): 888–924.
Kober, Adolf. ‘Jews in the Revolution of 1848 in Germany’. Jewish Social Studies 10, no. 2 (1948): 135–64.
Körner, Axel, ed. 1848 — A European Revolution? London: Palgrave Macmillan UK, 2000. https://doi.org/10.1057/9781403919595.
Moggach, Douglas, and Gareth Stedman Jones, eds. The 1848 Revolutions and European Political Thought. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2018. https://doi.org/10.1017/9781316650974.
Müller, Frank Lorenz. Britain and the German Question. London: Palgrave Macmillan UK, 2002. https://doi.org/10.1057/9781403919663.
Orr, William J. ‘East Prussia and the Revolution of 1848’. Central European History 13, no. 4 (December 1980): 303–31. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0008938900009900.
Reiss, Matthias, ed. The Street as Stage: Protest Marches and Public Rallies Since the Nineteenth Century. Oxford University Press, 2007.
Scott, Hamish. ‘The Changing Face of the Holy Roman Empire’. Austrian History Yearbook 48 (April 2017): 269–80. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0067237816000680.
Sperber, Jonathan. ‘Festivals of National Unity in the German Revolution of 1848-1849’. Past & Present, no. 136 (1992): 114–38.
———. Rhineland Radicals: The Democratic Movement and the Revolution of 1848-1849. Princeton University Press, 1991.
Steger, Werner. ‘German Immigrants, the Revolution of 1848, and the Politics of Liberalism in Antebellum Richmond’. Yearbook of German-American Studies 34 (1 December 1999): 19–34. https://doi.org/10.17161/ygas.v34i.19119.
Whaley, Joachim. Germany and the Holy Roman Empire: Volume I: Maximilian I to the Peace of Westphalia, 1493-1648. OUP Oxford, 2011.

I imported them from Zotero, I know the formatting looks ugly, don't blame me.


1. https://xtools.wmcloud.org/articleinfo/ ... op-editors
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:B ... WellsSouth, plus the extension Who Wrote That. (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Who_Wrote_That%3F)
3. See https://web.archive.org/web/20220607130 ... Manteuffel or https://web.archive.org/web/20170107011 ... _Emmermann, more at User Talk page.
Wow, just wow! Who bases a history article on writings by Marx and Engels. The main source is a text Engels wrote 1849/1850. :facepalm:
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Unread post by eppur si muove » Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:05 pm

Ewa Jasiewicz (T-H-L)
Okay the woman is an obvious antisemite. Plenty of Jews alive today are not Zionists (waves hand) and before the war, the majority of Jews were not Zionists. So her vandalising something in Warsaw that serves as a memorial to Jews murdered during the Holocaust in order to make a protest against Israel shows she is a poor excuse for a human being. But having most of the references for the article being Israeli, Zionist and/or Jewish hardly suggests that this is a balanced article.

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Unread post by Jip Orlando » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:35 pm

Ritchie333 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:41 pm
Embryo (Pink Floyd song) (T-H-L)

Now, I'm a bit of a Floyd nut, to the extent I have, on at least one occasion, challenged a claim in one of Andy Mabbett's books as being factually incorrect. However, I was surprised to find this article has been chock full of unreferenced fancruft for over 16 years.

Elsewhere, I notice the Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP (T-H-L) is regularly turning up to articles with various IPs and socks complaining that "nobody's fixed this crap in 15 years". Seems to be a common trend these days.
BKFIP is quacking at ANI about semi protection on a city in Colorado. The thing about him is: his edits are nominally improvements but his edsums are excessively rude. Anyway- no point in blocking that IP as he is very likely gone from it and on another. He really could have been a top-tier contributor had he been collegial.

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:16 pm

Jip Orlando wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:35 pm
Ritchie333 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:41 pm
Embryo (Pink Floyd song) (T-H-L)

Now, I'm a bit of a Floyd nut, to the extent I have, on at least one occasion, challenged a claim in one of Andy Mabbett's books as being factually incorrect. However, I was surprised to find this article has been chock full of unreferenced fancruft for over 16 years.

Elsewhere, I notice the Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP (T-H-L) is regularly turning up to articles with various IPs and socks complaining that "nobody's fixed this crap in 15 years". Seems to be a common trend these days.
BKFIP is quacking at ANI about semi protection on a city in Colorado. The thing about him is: his edits are nominally improvements but his edsums are excessively rude. Anyway- no point in blocking that IP as he is very likely gone from it and on another. He really could have been a top-tier contributor had he been collegial.
I don’t think this is true, except as an indictment of top tier contributors.

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Unread post by Jip Orlando » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:33 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:16 pm
Jip Orlando wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:35 pm
Ritchie333 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:41 pm
Embryo (Pink Floyd song) (T-H-L)

Now, I'm a bit of a Floyd nut, to the extent I have, on at least one occasion, challenged a claim in one of Andy Mabbett's books as being factually incorrect. However, I was surprised to find this article has been chock full of unreferenced fancruft for over 16 years.

Elsewhere, I notice the Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP (T-H-L) is regularly turning up to articles with various IPs and socks complaining that "nobody's fixed this crap in 15 years". Seems to be a common trend these days.
BKFIP is quacking at ANI about semi protection on a city in Colorado. The thing about him is: his edits are nominally improvements but his edsums are excessively rude. Anyway- no point in blocking that IP as he is very likely gone from it and on another. He really could have been a top-tier contributor had he been collegial.
I don’t think this is true, except as an indictment of top tier contributors.
Touche. I suppose I mean there are likely a lot of BKFIPs contributions that fly under the radar despite his obvious tells.

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Unread post by rnu » Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:42 pm

Petrel, Minnesota (T-H-L)
article wrote:Petrel (also spelled Petrell) is an unincorporated community in Fairbanks Township, Saint Louis County, Minnesota, United States; located within the Superior National Forest.

The community is located east of Fairbanks, and north of Brimson, near the intersection of Saint Louis County Highway 44 and County Road 353, Little Creek Road.

The junction of County Highway 44 and County Highway 16 is nearby.

Petrel is located near the boundary line for Saint Louis and Lake counties.
infobox wrote:Coordinates: 47°17′58″N 91°56′03″W
Country United States
State Minnesota
County Saint Louis
Township Fairbanks Township
Elevation 1,532 ft (467 m)
Population
• Total 10
Time zone UTC-6 (Central (CST))
• Summer (DST) UTC-5 (CDT)
Area code 218
GNIS feature ID 662165[1]
Reported at the help desk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=1189614832 wrote:article about non-existent place

this article for "Petrel" minnesota (an unincorporated community) is inaccurate, it is just a creek and not an actual place, I also found no way to delete this page. If anyone could fix this that would be great! Bradinator33 (talk) 23:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
The only source used in the article says it is a stream. The map calls it Petrell Creek.
No PRODDED.
It is mentioned in several other articles. Not holding my breath regarding the cleanup.
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Unread post by Zoll » Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:13 pm

History of England (T-H-L)

For an article of this calibre, there's a shocking lack of inline citations from Roman Britain onwards, ore then 1/3 of the paragraphs are uncited.
I guess the literature section makes up for the lack of citations, but this isn't some shitty stub, this is a fully fledged and important article.

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Re: Crap articles

Unread post by orangepi » Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:40 pm

Bids to college bowl games (T-H-L)

What is this even? (other than a crap duplicate of 2023–24 NCAA football bowl games (T-H-L))

EDIT TO ADD: also Super Bowl curse (T-H-L) ... apparently anything involving (gridiron) football bowl games is a magnet for cruft and crap.

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Unread post by Elinruby » Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:03 am

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History of England (T-H-L)

For an article of this calibre, there's a shocking lack of inline citations from Roman Britain onwards, ore then 1/3 of the paragraphs are uncited.
I guess the literature section makes up for the lack of citations, but this isn't some shitty stub, this is a fully fledged and important article.
That may be a characteristic of top-level articles. I went through a period of editing through the history of Central America and found it was mostly sourced to US country studies at the time. Probably doesn't need to be added, but there wasn't a lot of coverage of banana wars, plantation economies or Manifest Destiny

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:14 am

Donald Jackson (calligrapher) (T-H-L).

“Today I am a pen and pencil.”

Well, a pen, anyway. Parker seem to have gotten their money’s worth.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:10 am

The Blue Newt wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:14 am
Donald Jackson (calligrapher) (T-H-L).

“Today I am a pen and pencil.”

Well, a pen, anyway. Parker seem to have gotten their money’s worth.
It was a lot worse earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =659822017

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:11 pm

Rome plow (T-H-L), where coatrack meets anorak.

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3-inch M1917 (T-H-L).

I was starting to count the number of things wrong with it digitally, but decided that taking off my socks was too much trouble.

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Unread post by Elinruby » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:48 am

The Blue Newt wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:26 am
3-inch M1917 (T-H-L).

I was starting to count the number of things wrong with it digitally, but decided that taking off my socks was too much trouble.
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Unread post by rnu » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:28 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:26 am
3-inch M1917 (T-H-L).

I was starting to count the number of things wrong with it digitally, but decided that taking off my socks was too much trouble.
The section about the same gun in the article about its successor (3-inch gun M1918 (T-H-L)) is better than the article on the gun itself. :facepalm:
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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:16 pm

rnu wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:28 pm
The Blue Newt wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:26 am
3-inch M1917 (T-H-L).

I was starting to count the number of things wrong with it digitally, but decided that taking off my socks was too much trouble.
The section about the same gun in the article about its successor (3-inch gun M1918 (T-H-L)) is better than the article on the gun itself. :facepalm:
The essential problem is that there are three articles where there really should be at most two. The clowns who blithely create splinter articles and expect their betters to clean them up have a lot to answer for.

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Unread post by Zoloft » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:29 am

I went to look up what happened to Tappan (the US appliance brand) and wow...

Tappan_(brand) (T-H-L)

What an absolute piece of junk.
History

In 1881, Tappan appliances was founded by W.J. Tappan as the Ohio Valley Foundry Company in Bellaire, Ohio, initially selling cast-iron stoves door-to-door.[citation needed]

In 1889, the company relocated to Mansfield, Ohio, and was renamed the Eclipse Stove Company, when Tappan's father, who was an amateur astronomer, suggested the name after traveling to Siberia to view a comet. However, due to the existence of another Eclipse Stove Company that was not affiliated with Tappan's company, the company was renamed the Tappan Stove Company in the 1920's.

Please note the two thirty-year gaps.

In 1950, Tappan acquired the Los Angeles-based O'Keefe & Merritt Stove Company and used the O'Keefe & Merritt name in the western United States from then until the late 1980s.

In 1978, Carl Icahn in his first takeover attempt took a controlling stake in Tappan and forced the sale of the company to Electrolux

In 1979, European-based AB Electrolux (which had purchased Eureka five years prior) purchased the Tappan Stove Company. Seven years later, AB Electrolux purchased White Consolidated Industries, which manufactured Frigidaire, White-Westinghouse, Gibson Appliance, and Kelvinator products, and combined its Tappan holdings with these new products to create the WCI Major Appliances Group. In 1991, the WCI Major Appliances Group simply became known as the Frigidaire Company, based in Dublin Ohio.

In 1997, the North American division of Electrolux was reorganized as Electrolux Home Products of North America, consolidating American Yard Products, Frigidaire, and Poulan/Weedeater.[citation needed]

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Unread post by rnu » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:00 am

Zoloft wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:29 am
I went to look up what happened to Tappan (the US appliance brand) and wow...

Tappan_(brand) (T-H-L)

What an absolute piece of junk.
History

In 1881, Tappan appliances was founded by W.J. Tappan as the Ohio Valley Foundry Company in Bellaire, Ohio, initially selling cast-iron stoves door-to-door.[citation needed]

In 1889, the company relocated to Mansfield, Ohio, and was renamed the Eclipse Stove Company, when Tappan's father, who was an amateur astronomer, suggested the name after traveling to Siberia to view a comet. However, due to the existence of another Eclipse Stove Company that was not affiliated with Tappan's company, the company was renamed the Tappan Stove Company in the 1920's.

Please note the two thirty-year gaps.

In 1950, Tappan acquired the Los Angeles-based O'Keefe & Merritt Stove Company and used the O'Keefe & Merritt name in the western United States from then until the late 1980s.

In 1978, Carl Icahn in his first takeover attempt took a controlling stake in Tappan and forced the sale of the company to Electrolux

In 1979, European-based AB Electrolux (which had purchased Eureka five years prior) purchased the Tappan Stove Company. Seven years later, AB Electrolux purchased White Consolidated Industries, which manufactured Frigidaire, White-Westinghouse, Gibson Appliance, and Kelvinator products, and combined its Tappan holdings with these new products to create the WCI Major Appliances Group. In 1991, the WCI Major Appliances Group simply became known as the Frigidaire Company, based in Dublin Ohio.

In 1997, the North American division of Electrolux was reorganized as Electrolux Home Products of North America, consolidating American Yard Products, Frigidaire, and Poulan/Weedeater.[citation needed]
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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:27 am

rnu wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:42 pm
Petrel, Minnesota (T-H-L)
article wrote:Petrel (also spelled Petrell) is an unincorporated community in Fairbanks Township, Saint Louis County, Minnesota, United States; located within the Superior National Forest.

The community is located east of Fairbanks, and north of Brimson, near the intersection of Saint Louis County Highway 44 and County Road 353, Little Creek Road.

The junction of County Highway 44 and County Highway 16 is nearby.

Petrel is located near the boundary line for Saint Louis and Lake counties.
infobox wrote:Coordinates: 47°17′58″N 91°56′03″W
Country United States
State Minnesota
County Saint Louis
Township Fairbanks Township
Elevation 1,532 ft (467 m)
Population
• Total 10
Time zone UTC-6 (Central (CST))
• Summer (DST) UTC-5 (CDT)
Area code 218
GNIS feature ID 662165[1]
Reported at the help desk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=1189614832 wrote:article about non-existent place

this article for "Petrel" minnesota (an unincorporated community) is inaccurate, it is just a creek and not an actual place, I also found no way to delete this page. If anyone could fix this that would be great! Bradinator33 (talk) 23:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
The only source used in the article says it is a stream. The map calls it Petrell Creek.
No PRODDED.
It is mentioned in several other articles. Not holding my breath regarding the cleanup.
There appears to be a meeting hall now called Petrell Hall that was the nucleus of the local Finnish community. So, not an “unincorporated community” in the normal sense at all; but restricted by national origin and social strata.

It’s located near the road intersection mentioned in the article. The map coordinates given are about 5 miles off as the crow flies, 12 miles by road, trail, and kicking your way through the undergrowth.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am

andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:

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Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:
So ONUS, and restoring unsourced material from 2015, out the window then?

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:14 am

andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:
So ONUS, and restoring unsourced material from 2015, out the window then?
Please stop pretending you give a flying fuck about the content of the article. You self-evidently chose it to pick a fight with Nishidani. Got to love the 'conflict of interest' claims though - it takes some chutzpah to make a CoI out of knowing the subject matter...

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Re: Crap articles

Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:15 am

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:14 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:
So ONUS, and restoring unsourced material from 2015, out the window then?
Please stop pretending you give a flying fuck about the content of the article. You self-evidently chose it to pick a fight with Nishidani. Got to love the 'conflict of interest' claims though - it takes some chutzpah to make a CoI out of knowing the subject matter...
He says on his talk page he is a former Japanologist. Please explain why he's writing unsourced personal original research as a former Japanologist who apparently believes Japan is not a real civilization and that they aren't unique?

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Re: Crap articles

Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 am

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:14 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:
So ONUS, and restoring unsourced material from 2015, out the window then?
Please stop pretending you give a flying fuck about the content of the article. You self-evidently chose it to pick a fight with Nishidani. Got to love the 'conflict of interest' claims though - it takes some chutzpah to make a CoI out of knowing the subject matter...
Imagine someone was topic banned from topic A and went over to topic B and edited a completely unrelated topic to be told that they can't, because someone from topic A edited that page 20 years ago so I was picking a fight
Did you actually look at my diifs? You're going to tell me his version is better? And his revert message and subsequent talk message OK?
Yes, I was topic banned so I moved topics. That is allowed.
I picked no fight; he picked the fight.

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Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:18 am

andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:14 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:
So ONUS, and restoring unsourced material from 2015, out the window then?
Please stop pretending you give a flying fuck about the content of the article. You self-evidently chose it to pick a fight with Nishidani. Got to love the 'conflict of interest' claims though - it takes some chutzpah to make a CoI out of knowing the subject matter...
Imagine someone was topic banned from topic A and went over to topic B and edited a completely unrelated topic to be told that they can't, because someone from topic A edited that page 20 years ago so I was picking a fight
Did you actually look at my diifs? You're going to tell me his version is better? And his revert message and subsequent talk message OK?
Yes, I was topic banned so I moved topics. That is allowed.
I picked no fight; he picked the fight.
Also, I love Japan, always have, I wrote maneki-neko in 2004. I went to Japan last in 2019. I'm not a scholar like Nishidani apparently is, citing his own original research. But I reviewed a bunch of Immanuelle's articles lately and it's a good area for me to work in, but i'm being harassed and insulted.

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Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:22 am

andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:18 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:14 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:05 am
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:33 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron
Yeah, no. You couldn't be more transparent if you tried. link

The boomerang at WP:ANI should be fun to watch. :popcorn:
So ONUS, and restoring unsourced material from 2015, out the window then?
Please stop pretending you give a flying fuck about the content of the article. You self-evidently chose it to pick a fight with Nishidani. Got to love the 'conflict of interest' claims though - it takes some chutzpah to make a CoI out of knowing the subject matter...
Imagine someone was topic banned from topic A and went over to topic B and edited a completely unrelated topic to be told that they can't, because someone from topic A edited that page 20 years ago so I was picking a fight
Did you actually look at my diifs? You're going to tell me his version is better? And his revert message and subsequent talk message OK?
Yes, I was topic banned so I moved topics. That is allowed.
I picked no fight; he picked the fight.
Also, I love Japan, always have, I wrote maneki-neko in 2004. I went to Japan last in 2019. I'm not a scholar like Nishidani apparently is, citing his own original research. But I reviewed a bunch of Immanuelle's articles lately and it's a good area for me to work in, but i'm being harassed and insulted.
I took a semester of Japanese in college too. Almost forgot that. But all I remember is basic stuff. My hiragana was also very messy. My handwriting sucks in all languages.
and I was a former pseudo-coordinator for the WikiProject Video Games and I've edited quite a few articles on Japanese computer equipment. It's an interest of mine, so don't act like I just showed up in Japan to harass Nishidani. I did not even know he was a former Japanologist until he told me that today.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:28 am

I'm not a scholar like Nishidani apparently is, citing his own original research.
Funny, I thought that Wikipedia was supposed to cite works by scholars. Weebs have fandom...

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Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:30 am

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:28 am
I'm not a scholar like Nishidani apparently is, citing his own original research.
Funny, I thought that Wikipedia was supposed to cite works by scholars. Weebs have fandom...
Hey dumbass, take a look at the diffs. I'm adding reliable journal references and fixing the problems... Nishidani reverting it and playing [[WP:OWN]].

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:34 am

andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:30 am
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:28 am
I'm not a scholar like Nishidani apparently is, citing his own original research.
Funny, I thought that Wikipedia was supposed to cite works by scholars. Weebs have fandom...
Hey dumbass, take a look at the diffs. I'm adding reliable journal references and fixing the problems... Nishidani reverting it and playing [[WP:OWN]].
Fuck off, weeb.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:44 pm

And for the record, the weeb ran away from ANI with his tail between his legs, before the Japanologist even responded.
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Unread post by andre » Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:47 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:44 pm
And for the record, the weeb ran away from ANI with his tail between his legs, before the Japanologist even responded.
link

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The admins asked me to withdraw the thread citing a content dispute. Even though it is a well-substantiated and recurring behavioral problem. Guess Nishidani is one of those UNBLOCKABLES you guys always talk about. And he did respond, on his own talk.

Furthermore, that article sucks, it's awful, and it's an POV coatrack attack page alleging that Japanese culture has no unique aspects. Coincidentally, the subject of the OR in the article.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:57 pm

andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:47 pm
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:44 pm
And for the record, the weeb ran away from ANI with his tail between his legs, before the Japanologist even responded.
link

Normal 'actually crap articles' services will resume in this thread shortly...
The admins asked me to withdraw the thread citing a content dispute. Even though it is a well-substantiated and recurring behavioral problem. Guess Nishidani is one of those UNBLOCKABLES you guys always talk about. And he did respond, on his own talk.

Furthermore, that article sucks, it's awful, and it's an POV coatrack attack page alleging that Japanese culture has no unique aspects. Coincidentally, the subject of the OR in the article.
Bullshit. You withdrew because your absurd claims that knowing the subject matter constituted evidence of a CoI were backfiring on you.

And no, Nishidani isn't an 'unblockable'. link

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Unread post by rnu » Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:31 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:57 pm
andre wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:47 pm
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:44 pm
And for the record, the weeb ran away from ANI with his tail between his legs, before the Japanologist even responded.
link

Normal 'actually crap articles' services will resume in this thread shortly...
The admins asked me to withdraw the thread citing a content dispute. Even though it is a well-substantiated and recurring behavioral problem. Guess Nishidani is one of those UNBLOCKABLES you guys always talk about. And he did respond, on his own talk.

Furthermore, that article sucks, it's awful, and it's an POV coatrack attack page alleging that Japanese culture has no unique aspects. Coincidentally, the subject of the OR in the article.
Bullshit. You withdrew because your absurd claims that knowing the subject matter constituted evidence of a CoI were backfiring on you.

And no, Nishidani isn't an 'unblockable'. link
Some short blocks. Five times unblocked - twice within less than an hour, four time in less than a day. That does not include the revoked tban that led to his "retirement". I'd say that is pretty much the definition of WP:UNBLOCKABLE.
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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:18 pm

Whatever. Andre's evidence-free bullshit at ANI got nowhere, and frankly I doubt it would have got anywhere if he'd reported any other contributor on the same basis. There was absolutely no evidence of a CoI, and if there is actually a problem with the article in question, it certainly doesn't merit facile hyperbolae claiming that it is an "attack page alleging that Japanese culture has no unique aspects".

I think Andre was extremely lucky to be able to find an excuse to shut down the thread when he did.

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