Crap articles

[The Blue Newt]

Third-wave coffee (T-H-L).

Enjoy.

[rnu]

Third-wave coffee (T-H-L).

Enjoy.

I never got coffee pretentiousness.

[Elinruby]

List of battles 1301–1600 (T-H-L)

[rnu]

List of battles 1301–1600 (T-H-L)

In true Wikipedia fashion there are multiple of these lists for different time periods plus extra lists for naval battles and sieges and each has its own format. "Local consensus" at its best/worst.

[eppur si muove]

In true Wikipedia fashion there are multiple of these lists for different time periods plus extra lists for naval battles and sieges and each has its own format. "Local consensus" at its best/worst.

Provided the membership of a WIkiproject has a decent proportion of the people who work in a particular subject area and they let non-members they see doing more than gnomish edits know that they are welcome to join, then the project is really the best level at which to decide local consensus.

[rnu]

Rupperswil murder case (T-H-L)
An article about the 2015 murder of four people in Switzerland. Given that the perpetrator is still alive this falls under WP:BLP. Nevertheless, the only statement with a reference is "It is one of the most notable crime cases in recent Swiss history,". The source for the statement is the Swiss tabloid Blick (T-H-L). Outside the German speaking sphere Blick is probably best known for this photo manipulation in its reporting on the Luxor massacre (T-H-L):

They took the picture on the right and colored the water red calling it "Blutspur des Grauens" ("blood trail of horror"). User:Jo-Jo Eumerus (T-C-L) has brought up the lack of references on the BLP noticeboard. It has been tagged as needing references since May 2016.

[Elinruby]

List of battles 1301–1600 (T-H-L)

In true Wikipedia fashion there are multiple of these lists for different time periods plus extra lists for naval battles and sieges and each has its own format. "Local consensus" at its best/worst.

yeah my quarrel with that article is scope, really. It would be more useful as list of battles in Europe, or india or North America, and even at that, it isn't a closed set and can probably never be truly finished. I am willing to bet that the talk page is full of discussions about what is a battle versus a massacre or a skirmish. I also think that lists, generally, cause more problems than they are worth. For example "list of national anthems": what do you do about places that aren't really countries but act like they are anyway, like Quebec and Texas?

[Elinruby]

Rupperswil murder case (T-H-L)
An article about the 2015 murder of four people in Switzerland. Given that the perpetrator is still alive this falls under WP:BLP. Nevertheless, the only statement with a reference is "It is one of the most notable crime cases in recent Swiss history,". The source for the statement is the Swiss tabloid Blick (T-H-L). Outside the German speaking sphere Blick is probably best known for this photo manipulation in its reporting on the Luxor massacre (T-H-L):

They took the picture on the right and colored the water red calling it "Blutspur des Grauens" ("blood trail of horror"). User:Jo-Jo Eumerus (T-C-L) has brought up the lack of references on the BLP noticeboard. It has been tagged as needing references since May 2016.

BLP!E no?

[ltbdl]

theatre organ (T-H-L)

[rnu]

Barnacullian (T-H-L)

Barnacullia meaning top of the wood. is a mountain in Dublin County , Ireland. At 714 metres (2,306 ft) it is the 14th highest mountain in the Dublin Mountains. It is located just north of Wicklow Mountains National Park.population Is small. One of the best Places bring up a family .

Has been around since 2010. Earlier this year an IP decided to "correct" the spelling at the beginning of the article, but not in the infobox or in the article title from "Barnacullian" to "Barnacullia" and for some inexplicable reason decided that it should be red-linked.

[Elinruby]

Barnacullian (T-H-L)

Barnacullia meaning top of the wood. is a mountain in Dublin County , Ireland. At 714 metres (2,306 ft) it is the 14th highest mountain in the Dublin Mountains. It is located just north of Wicklow Mountains National Park.population Is small. One of the best Places bring up a family .

Has been around since 2010. Earlier this year an IP decided to "correct" the spelling at the beginning of the article, but not in the infobox or in the article title from "Barnacullian" to "Barnacullia" and for some inexplicable reason decided that it should be red-linked.

It burns, my precious

[eppur si muove]

That's why a lot of people think that infoboxes are crap.

There is the potential for technical solutions to the inconsistency problem. Some combination of sophisticated AI or tightening (and enforcing)the manual of style might allow for the content of infoboxes to be generated. Or conversely certain the AI could generate an opening sentence from the infobox. But allowing anyone to edit articles which say the same thing twice inevitably lead to the article to say that someone's hair colour is both black and white or some such.

[Ron Lybonly]

I hear about infobox wars in the past - can someone here explain what that was all about?

[ltbdl]

I hear about infobox wars in the past - can someone here explain what that was all about?

maybe this Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-10-02/Arbitration report (T-H-L)

[Ron Lybonly]

I hear about infobox wars in the past - can someone here explain what that was all about?

maybe this Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-10-02/Arbitration report (T-H-L)

Who knew? I never gave them much thought.

Anything happen since 2013? Any consensus evolve on the topic? Do people still fight over them?

P.S., Thanks for the good summary.

[AndyTheGrump]

I hear about infobox wars in the past - can someone here explain what that was all about?

maybe this Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-10-02/Arbitration report (T-H-L)

Who knew? I never gave them much thought.

Anything happen since 2013? Any consensus evolve on the topic? Do people still fight over them?

P.S., Thanks for the good summary.

This is Wikipedia. People fight over everything.

Personally, I'd not have an issue with them if they only contained information. Too often they don't. They contain opinion instead, in a manner that misrepresents it as objective data. That's when they don't contain outright fiction/vandalism - vandals find them an easy target. Disinfoboxes...

[Elinruby]

They've been fighting for like a decade at [[War of 1812]] over what the outcome was
Even Deathlibrarian (T-C-L) gave up

[rhindle]

Women in South Korea (T-H-L) - Mishmash of original research, poorly written prose that was probably fed through Google Translate, and (until recently) copyright violations. The same appears to be true of just about the entire topic area of modern South Korean society.

Speaking of "Women in..." articles, I recently encountered Women in rock (T-H-L) that was linked from some other article I was checking out and thought this could be an entry for this thread. I also looked at who started the article and found out they started a bunch of other not-so-great "Women in..." articles. The editor does say they want more female representation in WP and good for them but I don't know if this is the way to do that.

[Elinruby]

Just look at this pile of poo someone created to prove a point. Ruslan_Kotsaba (T-H-L)

Another one Vita Zaverukha (T-H-L)

[Elinruby]

Bihag (T-H-L)

languishing unedited since 2013, completely incomprehensible. Except, perhaps, to someone familiar with raga (T-H-L). I can't even tell if it's valuable information if you have that background, or simply incomprehensible. But ten years is long enough to linger like this. Isn't there a music project somewhere that would love to work on this?

Halp

later: I found Project Indian music and posted this there, but it doesn't seem to be very high-traffic, and other ideas are welcome

[rnu]

Bihag (T-H-L)

languishing unedited since 2013, completely incomprehensible. Except, perhaps, to someone familiar with raga (T-H-L). I can't even tell if it's valuable information if you have that background, or simply incomprehensible. But ten years is long enough to linger like this. Isn't there a music project somewhere that would love to work on this?

Halp

I looked at a few other articles on ragas. They aren't really more comprehensible, but at least they are shorter.

[Elinruby]

Anything happen since 2013? Any consensus evolve on the topic? Do people still fight over them?

P.S., Thanks for the good summary.

Special:Search?fulltext=Search+archives&fulltext=Search&prefix=Talk%3AWar+of+1812%2F&search=infobox&ns0=1 (T-H-L)

Consensus: Don't go in there or TFD (T-C-L) will take you to ANI. Only nationalists question whether the United States won, you know.

[rnu]

Rupperswil murder case (T-H-L)
An article about the 2015 murder of four people in Switzerland. Given that the perpetrator is still alive this falls under WP:BLP. Nevertheless, the only statement with a reference is "It is one of the most notable crime cases in recent Swiss history,". The source for the statement is the Swiss tabloid Blick (T-H-L). Outside the German speaking sphere Blick is probably best known for this photo manipulation in its reporting on the Luxor massacre (T-H-L):

They took the picture on the right and colored the water red calling it "Blutspur des Grauens" ("blood trail of horror"). User:Jo-Jo Eumerus (T-C-L) has brought up the lack of references on the BLP noticeboard. It has been tagged as needing references since May 2016.

References have now been added. With Yngvadottir (T-C-L) arguing for the use of the tabloid Blick for information on how the perpetrator was caught.

Edit: The article in question is from 2020. In that year's rating of the 49 most important news sources in Switzerland Blick was 48th. They proudly reported that they made the biggest improvement of all listed sources compared to 2018 (when they were dead last). They did not mention their position in the ranking, though. I wonder why.

[MadManz]

Negative and positive rights (T-H-L) - no real lede, not written like an encyclopedia article (beginning a sentence in the first paragraph with "So"), potentially confusing

[Ritchie333]

Birotron (T-H-L)

Jesus H Christ, where do I start?

I would quote some of the unreferenced drivel in the second paragraph, but as far as I can tell, that's a copyright violation of http://www.synth-db.com/synths/Birotron/B90/B90.php so you can just read it there.

When I tried to clean it up some time back and add some actual reliable sources, I was reverted with the charming edit summary of "Leave the article alone please". Nice bit of WP:OWNership there.

Sorry, most of you won't be able to see the article as I've speedy deleted it and started a thread at ANI to review that.

[The Blue Newt]

Birotron (T-H-L)

Jesus H Christ, where do I start?

I would quote some of the unreferenced drivel in the second paragraph, but as far as I can tell, that's a copyright violation of http://www.synth-db.com/synths/Birotron/B90/B90.php so you can just read it there.

When I tried to clean it up some time back and add some actual reliable sources, I was reverted with the charming edit summary of "Leave the article alone please". Nice bit of WP:OWNership there.

Sorry, most of you won't be able to see the article as I've speedy deleted it and started a thread at ANI to review that.

What use is that, I ask ya?

[rnu]

Birotron (T-H-L)

Jesus H Christ, where do I start?

I would quote some of the unreferenced drivel in the second paragraph, but as far as I can tell, that's a copyright violation of http://www.synth-db.com/synths/Birotron/B90/B90.php so you can just read it there.

When I tried to clean it up some time back and add some actual reliable sources, I was reverted with the charming edit summary of "Leave the article alone please". Nice bit of WP:OWNership there.

Sorry, most of you won't be able to see the article as I've speedy deleted it and started a thread at ANI to review that.

Available at https://wikimili.com/en/Birotron

Despite the skilled talents of the manufacturing team, (such as Emerson/McCartney Moog technician Phil Pearce who designed the attack / decay electronics), and a man by the name of 'Roger Rogers' who worked on furthering the electronics, tape process, design, and production engineering, delays in actual production arose due to issues that became time consuming to solve properly.

[The Blue Newt]

Walter Lohmann (T-H-L).

[Hemiauchenia]

History of elephants in Europe (T-H-L) I am really not sure what the point of this article is, it's a largely unsourced random collection of anecdotes.

[AndyTheGrump]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr) is a unit of speed, expressing the number of kilometres travelled in one hour.

As to whether one needs an article at all for something as mundane as a unit of velocity, opinions probably differ.

[DFlhb]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr) is a unit of speed, expressing the number of kilometres travelled in one hour.

As to whether one needs an article at all for something as mundane as a unit of velocity, opinions probably differ.

Peep the very dumb debate on the talk page, where one user argues that there can be "no central authority to dictate the rules for [SI] abbreviations" because human language can't be regulated. (I don't endorse "non-standard abbreviations" in the lead though, too clunky). He got dragged to ANI multiple times since then, but I didn't have the patience to make a case for WP:CIR.

[rnu]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr) is a unit of speed, expressing the number of kilometres travelled in one hour.

As to whether one needs an article at all for something as mundane as a unit of velocity, opinions probably differ.

Peep the very dumb debate on the talk page, where one user argues that there can be "no central authority to dictate the rules for [SI] abbreviations" because human language can't be regulated. (I don't endorse "non-standard abbreviations" in the lead though, too clunky). He got dragged to ANI multiple times since then, but I didn't have the patience to make a case for WP:CIR.

Well, with a user name like DeFacto (T-C-L) he practically has to seek out the dumbest ways to deny the existence of facts.

The saddest part about the definition is that even though it seems to be tautological it manages to be just plain wrong. As defined by Wikipedia km/h would only be applicable to travels of exactly one hour. Additionally it would not measure speed, but distance. km/h is a unit of speed that expresses how many kilometres something would travel within one hour if it traveled at constant speed.

[AndyTheGrump]

...with a user name like DeFacto (T-C-L) he practically has to seek out the dumbest ways to deny the existence of facts.

Indeed. DeFacto was one of couple of contributors who objected to Edward Colston, deputy governor of the Royal African Company being described as 'a slave trader' in the Wikipedia biography. Instead, he preferred the mealy-mouthed 'was involved in the Atlantic slave trade', as if it was a mere side-line, or something Colson did by accident.

[Vigilant]

María_Sefidari (T-H-L)

The lede

María Sefidari Huici (born 1982) is a psychologist, teacher, and specialist in Spanish digital communications and culture.

Is unsupported by any sources.

* A psychologist requires specialized degrees and certification. (pic)
* Teacher, in the vernacular, requires that you teach more than one non-credit course as a 'visiting lecturer'. It also appears you need advanced and targeted coursework.
* There is nothing in any source I could find to support the assertion that she is a 'specialist in Spanish digital communications and culture'.

In short, the lede is pure fiction.

LOL!
The edit to this BLP was done by and IPv6 and let stand by en.wp for 4 months.

This was the only edit by the IPv6


Even though the IPv6 says Germany, I've got a shiny dollar says this edit was either Laura Hale or Maria Sefidari.

[Mojito]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr).

See the underlined bit above.

Hopefully I'm not making a fool of myself here, but km/h isn't an SI unit, right? Therefore it doesn't have an SI symbol?

[AndyTheGrump]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr).

See the underlined bit above.

Hopefully I'm not making a fool of myself here, but km/h isn't an SI unit, right? Therefore it doesn't have an SI symbol?

Velocity is a derived unit in the SI system. And since the second and the metre are base units, it should be expressed in metres per second: m/s (or, for picky mathematicians, on a forum that supports it, m s with a '-1' superscript following)

[Vigilant]

María_Sefidari (T-H-L)

The lede

María Sefidari Huici (born 1982) is a psychologist, teacher, and specialist in Spanish digital communications and culture.

Is unsupported by any sources.

* A psychologist requires specialized degrees and certification. (pic)
* Teacher, in the vernacular, requires that you teach more than one non-credit course as a 'visiting lecturer'. It also appears you need advanced and targeted coursework.
* There is nothing in any source I could find to support the assertion that she is a 'specialist in Spanish digital communications and culture'.

In short, the lede is pure fiction.

LOL!
The edit to this BLP was done by and IPv6 and let stand by en.wp for 4 months.

This was the only edit by the IPv6


Even though the IPv6 says Germany, I've got a shiny dollar says this edit was either Laura Hale or Maria Sefidari.

Once again, Yngvadottir does a good deed.

There should be no IP editing of BLPs.
There should be pending changes on all BLPs.

[Vigilant]

Looks like this comes from es.wp originally.

https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... on=history

https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =112537829

https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =115934095


From Uruguay and attends a lot of WMF sponsored vacations.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... osh)_1.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... edia01.jpg

Seen here with Maria Sefidari Huici
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... rocoop.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... Grupal.jpg

Smells a bit like a conflict of interest, eh?

Names to faces

[Newyorkbrad]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr) is a unit of speed, expressing the number of kilometres travelled in one hour.

As to whether one needs an article at all for something as mundane as a unit of velocity, opinions probably differ.

If they get rid of the article, would it be a speedy deletion?

[tarantino]

Jochspitze (T-H-L)

Jochspitze is a mountain of Bavaria, Germany.

Last edited by a Slowking sock in 2020, created by a sock in 2010, who was also probably Slowking.

[rnu]

Jochspitze (T-H-L)

Jochspitze is a mountain of Bavaria, Germany.

Last edited by a Slowking sock in 2020, created by a sock in 2010, who was also probably Slowking.

It is actually exactly at the border between Bavaria, Germany and Tyrol, Austria.

[Elinruby]

Jochspitze (T-H-L)

Jochspitze is a mountain of Bavaria, Germany.

Last edited by a Slowking sock in 2020, created by a sock in 2010, who was also probably Slowking.

Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English/Articles by user/Slowking4 (T-H-L)

[rnu]

Cebrenii (T-H-L)

Cebrenii (Greek: Κεβρήνιοι) is the name of a Thracian tribe, they are mentioned by Polyaenus[1] and Strabo.

References
1. Polyaenus: Stratagems - BOOK 7: The generals of the Cebrenii and Sycaeboae, two Thracian tribes, were chosen from among the priests of Hera. Cosingas, according to the tradition of the country, was elected to be their priest and general; but the army took some objection to him, and refused to obey him. To suppress the rebelliousness that had taken hold of the troops, Cosingas built a number of long ladders, and fastened them one to another. He then put out a report, that he had decided to climb up to heaven, in order to inform Hera of the disobedience of the Thracians. The Thracians, who are notoriously stupid and ridiculous, were terrified by the idea of their general's intended journey, and the resulting wrath of heaven. They implored him not to carry out his plan, and they promised with an oath to obey all of his future commands.

[Mojito]

Another lede from the Wikipedia 'say it twice to define it' sausage machine:

The kilometre per hour (SI symbol: km/h; non-standard abbreviations: kph, km/hr) is a unit of speed, expressing the number of kilometres travelled in one hour.

As to whether one needs an article at all for something as mundane as a unit of velocity, opinions probably differ.

If they get rid of the article, would it be a speedy deletion?

[rnu]

Várong (T-H-L)

Várong is a village in Tolna county, Hungary. A few vikings from Russia were settled here.

[Elinruby]

Cebrenii (T-H-L)

Cebrenii (Greek: Κεβρήνιοι) is the name of a Thracian tribe, they are mentioned by Polyaenus[1] and Strabo.

References
1. Polyaenus: Stratagems - BOOK 7: The generals of the Cebrenii and Sycaeboae, two Thracian tribes, were chosen from among the priests of Hera. Cosingas, according to the tradition of the country, was elected to be their priest and general; but the army took some objection to him, and refused to obey him. To suppress the rebelliousness that had taken hold of the troops, Cosingas built a number of long ladders, and fastened them one to another. He then put out a report, that he had decided to climb up to heaven, in order to inform Hera of the disobedience of the Thracians. The Thracians, who are notoriously stupid and ridiculous, were terrified by the idea of their general's intended journey, and the resulting wrath of heaven. They implored him not to carry out his plan, and they promised with an oath to obey all of his future commands.

somebody is unclear on the concept

[The Blue Newt]

Goo-goos (T-H-L).

…

[rnu]

Goo-goos (T-H-L).

…

In Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck, in telling George about his preferred "parlour", Whit observes that in addition to clean girls, and comfortable chairs, the proprietress (Susy), "Don't let no goo-goos in, neither."

However an earlier version says:

In John Steinbeck's novella, Of Mice and Men, the worker Whit approves of a whore house that doesn't "let no goo-goos in neither." However in that context the phrase refers to Filipinos, a group that worked in large numbers in California in the 1930s.

I haven't read the book, so I don't really know which is right, but the second interpretation seems more likely to me.

[Elinruby]

Goo-goos (T-H-L).

…

In Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck, in telling George about his preferred "parlour", Whit observes that in addition to clean girls, and comfortable chairs, the proprietress (Susy), "Don't let no goo-goos in, neither."

However an earlier version says:

In John Steinbeck's novella, Of Mice and Men, the worker Whit approves of a whore house that doesn't "let no goo-goos in neither." However in that context the phrase refers to Filipinos, a group that worked in large numbers in California in the 1930s.

I haven't read the book, so I don't really know which is right, but the second interpret
ation seems more likely to me.

hey, I;m nerdy enough to be interested by this. I also know Central California. Check it out:

• :Watsonville riots (T-H-L)
  Anti-Filipino sentimentbut (T-H-L)
  
  but also:link

[lonza leggiera]

Goo-goos (T-H-L).

…

In Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck, in telling George about his preferred "parlour", Whit observes that in addition to clean girls, and comfortable chairs, the proprietress (Susy), "Don't let no goo-goos in, neither."

However an earlier version says:

In John Steinbeck's novella, Of Mice and Men, the worker Whit approves of a whore house that doesn't "let no goo-goos in neither." However in that context the phrase refers to Filipinos, a group that worked in large numbers in California in the 1930s.

I haven't read the book, so I don't really know which is right, but the second interpretation seems more likely to me.

1898– goo-goo, n.
derogatoryand offensive. Originally and chiefly U.S. Military slang (now historical). As a term of contempt or abuse: a Filipino. Later also occasionally used with reference to people from other countries, esp. in the western Pacific region, typically in military contexts (cf. quot. 1951), although this use has largely been superseded by the similarly offensive term gook.

There's nothing in the OED about the term "goo-goo" ever having anything to do with a good government movement. The article is starting to look to me like a hoax.

Update: It now looks like my first impression, that the article is a hoax, was mistaken. Its first reference is available for borrowing from the Internet Archive (although the author's name is James L. Merriner, not "Mariner" as stated in the article). Here's a quotation from the front fly leaf of the book:

From Chicago's earliest years in the 1830s, the city welcomed dollar-chasing businessmen and politicians, swiftly followed by reformers who strived to clean up the attendant corruption. Reformers in Chicago were called “goo goos,” a derisive epithet short for “good-government types.”