Agreed!Johnny Au wrote:That is what I meant.Poetlister wrote:I think that Johnny means that it's not the sort of article that should be on the English Wikipedia.
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After hitting random article a few times today, I came across this completely unreferenced bio, which states "[Cesare Bendinelli] also authored Rotta Ò Sonata, (Probably his most famous piece) which was used as the theme for Enrico Dandolo, leader of Venice in Sid Meier's Civilization V."Johnny Au wrote:Just take a look at various articles about certain real world leaders and it mentions this: [leader] appeared in Civilization [insert Roman numeral].
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Quite a nice piece.[Cesare Bendinelli] also authored Rotta Ò Sonata, (Probably his most famous piece)
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I just noticed this. This was the way this article read when I wrote it back in 2014, using those two books listed at the bottom as the sources.
This is how the article reads now. Someone completely changed the tone and POV of the text. It appears they used Bruce book as a source rather than the two books I used.
This is how the article reads now. Someone completely changed the tone and POV of the text. It appears they used Bruce book as a source rather than the two books I used.
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That's a good example of one of the problems of Wikipedia. Somewhere, I called it "article rot". I suppose that it's not worth trying to fix.Cla68 wrote:I just noticed this. This was the way this article read when I wrote it back in 2014, using those two books listed at the bottom as the sources.
This is how the article reads now. Someone completely changed the tone and POV of the text. It appears they used Bruce book as a source rather than the two books I used.
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The view that the riot was primarily a general, spontaneous uprising by the crew is not supported by any other source except that one. So, the article should focus on the majority of sources which say that the riot was mainly caused by racial-animus. The theory that it was an anti-war protest should be presented as a secondary opinion, but I think it's fine to be included. However, there doesn't appear to be anyone on Wikipedia who cares enough to fix it, and I cannot because I am currently blocked. So, it stays as is.Poetlister wrote:That's a good example of one of the problems of Wikipedia. Somewhere, I called it "article rot". I suppose that it's not worth trying to fix.Cla68 wrote:I just noticed this. This was the way this article read when I wrote it back in 2014, using those two books listed at the bottom as the sources.
This is how the article reads now. Someone completely changed the tone and POV of the text. It appears they used Bruce book as a source rather than the two books I used.
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Just out of interest, why was this not a mutiny?
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It wasn't an act of disobedience to senior officers. According to Cla68's article, "The carrier's commander—Captain Marland Townsend—and executive officer—Commander Benjamin Cloud (who was black)—dissuaded the rioters from further violence and prevented white sailors from retaliating".
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List of largest shipyards in history (T-H-L) - I don't think this article knows what it wants to be.
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The formatting is lousy too.DarthBotto wrote:List of largest shipyards in history (T-H-L) - I don't think this article knows what it wants to be.
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I appreciate that it provides a convenient link to a fascinating and expansive article about a colonial shipyard like Real Arsenal (T-H-L). The sum of human knowledge is getting closer and closer to being complete!DarthBotto wrote:List of largest shipyards in history (T-H-L) - I don't think this article knows what it wants to be.
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I don't know where to put this, but TIL that the article Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes (T-H-L) has been full protected for the past six years!
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It needs to be downgraded to extended confirmed protection at the highest.Kingsindian wrote:I don't know where to put this, but TIL that the article Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes (T-H-L) has been full protected for the past six years!
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Yes, the worst that can happen is a spate of vandalism. In that case, it's easy enough to protect it again.Johnny Au wrote:It needs to be downgraded to extended confirmed protection at the highest.Kingsindian wrote:I don't know where to put this, but TIL that the article Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes (T-H-L) has been full protected for the past six years!
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List of synagogues in the United Kingdom (T-H-L) is massively incomplete. It omits for example Edgware United, the largest synagogue building in Britain (though it has Edgware Reform), and West Hove, the main synagogue in the Brighton and Hove area.
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This, is an atrocity. Added on 23 August 2017, and still there. If you Internet-search her name and the school name, not only does the Wikipedia article appear, but her LinkedIn profile as well. Not good, Wikipedia.
Also, right below it somebody is using the article to advertise a non-notable band. Looking through the article's edit history, it appears that the article used to mainly be a copy from the school's website.
Also, right below it somebody is using the article to advertise a non-notable band. Looking through the article's edit history, it appears that the article used to mainly be a copy from the school's website.
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Yngvadottir will be along shortly to take care of the month-long defamation. Meanwhile, Jimbo is speaking at the United Nations, and his cub reporter will be covering it, so all is right in the WikiWorld. Don't moan and groan so much, Charles.Cla68 wrote:This, is an atrocity. Added on 23 August 2017, and still there. If you Internet-search her name and the school name, not only does the Wikipedia article appear, but her LinkedIn profile as well. Not good, Wikipedia.
Also, right below it somebody is using the article to advertise a non-notable band. Looking through the article's edit history, it appears that the article used to mainly be a copy from the school's website.
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I wouldn't have thought that someone whose only claim to fame is being a registered nurse should be in a list of notable alumni.Cla68 wrote:This, is an atrocity. Added on 23 August 2017, and still there. If you Internet-search her name and the school name, not only does the Wikipedia article appear, but her LinkedIn profile as well. Not good, Wikipedia.
Also, right below it somebody is using the article to advertise a non-notable band. Looking through the article's edit history, it appears that the article used to mainly be a copy from the school's website.
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Well, according to Wikipedia for the past 4 weeks or so, that was only one of her two claims to fame.Poetlister wrote:I wouldn't have thought that someone whose only claim to fame is being a registered nurse should be in a list of notable alumni.
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I mean tthat this lady should never have been in the article in the first place, quite apart from the libellous addition.
And inevitably Yngvadottir has fixed it. However, a trivial piece of vandalism has now been added: Counsel -> Kounsel.
And inevitably Yngvadottir has fixed it. However, a trivial piece of vandalism has now been added: Counsel -> Kounsel.
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Montagu Norman (T-H-L) was Governor of the Bank of England for 24 years. That's the longest anyone's ever held that post, a point not mentioned in the article. (Indeed, most of his predecessors only managed two years and the previous record was five.)
Far more seriously, the article fails to mention that Norman's opposition to the Labour government's plan to abandon the gold standard led to the collapse of that government, and yet shortly afterwards, he was happy for the National Government to abandon it. The Labour Party never forgave him, and this resulted in the nationalisation of the Bank in the late 1940s.
Also, it says "On 2 November 1933, Lord Norman married ..." This is an anachronism, as he didn't become a lord until 1944.
Far more seriously, the article fails to mention that Norman's opposition to the Labour government's plan to abandon the gold standard led to the collapse of that government, and yet shortly afterwards, he was happy for the National Government to abandon it. The Labour Party never forgave him, and this resulted in the nationalisation of the Bank in the late 1940s.
Also, it says "On 2 November 1933, Lord Norman married ..." This is an anachronism, as he didn't become a lord until 1944.
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The various editions of the Invictus Games are rather poorly written:
•2014 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
•2016 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
•2017 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
•2018 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
In some of them, some of the writing is very unencyclopedic and is promotional at best.
•2014 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
•2016 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
•2017 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
•2018 Invictus Games (T-H-L)
In some of them, some of the writing is very unencyclopedic and is promotional at best.
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Magazine (T-H-L) is a classic of WP bad writing: almost unstructured, with random attacks of questionable pedantry and trivia, and gaping omissions. Ming particularly likes this assertion, which comes at the end of a paragraph naming Britain's oldest magazines:
Do tell. The article doesn't.Despite being among the first mass media outlets to venture from the bible, periodicals still remained rooted in the naturalized class and gender system held by European and American society.
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Abbotsford Senior Secondary School stabbing
See here: Abbotsford Senior Secondary School (T-H-L)
There's no citations with regards to the school stabbing.
Moderator's note: Mr. Au had posted this as a new thread, but having evaluated the situation.... naah.
There's no citations with regards to the school stabbing.
Moderator's note: Mr. Au had posted this as a new thread, but having evaluated the situation.... naah.
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Guess what just happened to the article!Johnny Au wrote:See here: Abbotsford Senior Secondary School (T-H-L)
There's no citations with regards to the school stabbing.
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It's nice to know our RSS feed is of use.Poetlister wrote:Guess what just happened to the article!Johnny Au wrote:See here: Abbotsford Senior Secondary School (T-H-L)
There's no citations with regards to the school stabbing.
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Battle cry (T-H-L)
It's extremely odd that there's no examples of battle cries from China, indigenous peoples of the Americas, or Africans (especially those from south of the Sahara).
Oh, and the article needs more sources as well.
It's extremely odd that there's no examples of battle cries from China, indigenous peoples of the Americas, or Africans (especially those from south of the Sahara).
Oh, and the article needs more sources as well.
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Indeed, it's had the {{Refimprove|date=March 2009}} template for a good few years now.Johnny Au wrote:Battle cry (T-H-L)
It's extremely odd that there's no examples of battle cries from China, indigenous peoples of the Americas, or Africans (especially those from south of the Sahara).
Oh, and the article needs more sources as well.
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Major League Baseball luxury tax (T-H-L)
I have begun cleaning up this mess and have called in the regulars within the Baseball WikiProject to help. Yes, it's another one of those School Assignment articles.
I have begun cleaning up this mess and have called in the regulars within the Baseball WikiProject to help. Yes, it's another one of those School Assignment articles.
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We're rooting for your team's success, Johnny. And here's hoping that "the crowd" doesn't come along eventually, like the high tide, and wipe out your sandcastles of knowledge. Meanwhile, the folks in San Francisco will worry about collecting all those financial donations, so that you can focus on the more important things like sports taxation. Keep up the good work!Johnny Au wrote:Major League Baseball luxury tax (T-H-L)
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The 10th most influential person in broadcasting & cable (according to Multichannel News), and this is the best you can do, Wikipedia? Pretty sad.
Tom Rutledge (T-H-L) (CEO of Charter Communications, the 2nd largest cable company in America) is a redlink. I'm too lazy to put it in the low-hanging fruit thread.
Tom Rutledge (T-H-L) (CEO of Charter Communications, the 2nd largest cable company in America) is a redlink. I'm too lazy to put it in the low-hanging fruit thread.
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The trouble with articles on CEOs is that it can be tricky to find newspaper stories specifically about them rather than their companies. As I've said before, "notable" doesn't always mean "noted". I'm too lazy to research this chap in particular.thekohser wrote:Tom Rutledge (T-H-L) (CEO of Charter Communications, the 2nd largest cable company in America) is a redlink. I'm too lazy to put it in the low-hanging fruit thread.
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I understand, but really... it wouldn't be that difficult with sources like this.Poetlister wrote:The trouble with articles on CEOs is that it can be tricky to find newspaper stories specifically about them rather than their companies. As I've said before, "notable" doesn't always mean "noted". I'm too lazy to research this chap in particular.thekohser wrote:Tom Rutledge (T-H-L) (CEO of Charter Communications, the 2nd largest cable company in America) is a redlink. I'm too lazy to put it in the low-hanging fruit thread.
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Nougat (T-H-L) is quite oddly bad, as if someone was deliberately trying to make a hash out of the article. The first oddity is the huge list of irrelevant pronunciations at the start of the article. The second oddity is that it fails to really explain at all what nougat might actually be, instead meandering into a self-contradictory discussion of its origins.
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Nougat (US: /ˈnuːɡət/ NOO-gət, UK: /ˈnuːɡɑː/ NOO-gah, or UK: /ˈnʌɡət/ NUG-ət;[1][2][3][4] French pronunciation: [nu.ɡa], Azerbaijani: /lukʌ/ لوکا, Persian: /nuːɡʌ/ نوقا ) is a family of confections made with sugar or honey, roasted nuts (almonds, walnuts, pistachios, hazelnuts, and macadamia nuts are common), whipped egg whites, and sometimes chopped candied fruit. The consistency of nougat is chewy, and it is used in a variety of candy bars and chocolates. The word nougat comes from Occitan pan nogat (pronounced [ˈpa nuˈɣat]), seemingly from Latin panis nucatus 'nut bread' (the late colloquial Latin adjective nucatum means 'nutted' or 'nutty').
Add some nuts while still warm. If you don't have enough nuts, search Wikipedia article talk pages.Food Network wrote:Whisk the egg white in a heatproof bowl until stiff. Combine the sugar, glucose, honey and water in a small saucepan. Stir over very low heat until the mixture reaches the small crack stage, or 275 degrees F on a candy thermometer, about 3 to 5 minutes. Remove from the heat.
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You can't have instructions for making nougat in the article. Wikipedia is not a "how to" guide. Of course, with some ingenious paraphrasing the relevant information could be included.
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The part where it gives two completely different regions (southern Europe and the middle east) as the origin is my favourite. Unfortunately the person who used to go and edit these articles seems to have given up.Zoloft wrote: ▲ That? That is screwball.
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UUNET (T-H-L) has two different timelines in it, the first of which interrupts a narrative which ends with a section about the service's supposed participation in the spam explosion, all of which may be true but which is written more like rumor-mongering slander than anything resembling a sober encyclopedia.
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Average cost pricing (T-H-L), an economic analysis technique often used to handle monopolies.
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Category:All_uncategorized_pages (T-H-L) -- working through this. A lot of crap here.
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How can that category have anything in it?mynameisnotdave wrote:Category:All_uncategorized_pages (T-H-L) -- working through this. A lot of crap here.
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Why, it's simple: each article is part of the set of sets that don't contain themselves.Poetlister wrote:How can that category have anything in it?mynameisnotdave wrote:Category:All_uncategorized_pages (T-H-L) -- working through this. A lot of crap here.
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A raw list from the database, updated every few days, is shown on Special:UncategorizedPages (T-H-L). A very kind user, Postcard Cathy (T-C-L), looks at this database and adds {{uncategorized}} to these pages. Then we know which articles don't have furry creatures and I can add cats to them.
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mynameisnotdave wrote:A raw list from the database, updated every few days, is shown on Special:UncategorizedPages (T-H-L). A very kind user, Postcard Cathy (T-C-L), looks at this database and adds {{uncategorized}} to these pages. Then we know which articles don't have furry creatures and I can add cats to them.
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The article on Two Little Girls in Blue (T-H-L), a 1921 Broadway show, fails to note that the title song is an old British music hall number written in 1893, nearly 30 years earlier. It also does not say that this was the first show where Ira Gershwin wrote the lyrics.
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The creator and principal author of the page, StryoFome (T-C-L), was blocked as a sockpuppet.Poetlister wrote:The article on Two Little Girls in Blue (T-H-L), a 1921 Broadway show, fails to note that the title song is an old British music hall number written in 1893, nearly 30 years earlier. It also does not say that this was the first show where Ira Gershwin wrote the lyrics.
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Children's Wish Foundation of Canada (T-H-L)
It looks like an ad, complete with the use of "we." It also has the phrase "last year" without specifying what year. Oh, and the organization is over 32 years old.
It looks like an ad, complete with the use of "we." It also has the phrase "last year" without specifying what year. Oh, and the organization is over 32 years old.
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That is probably because someone 'rewrote' it earlier this year by copy-pasting from the charity's website. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =761938780Johnny Au wrote:Children's Wish Foundation of Canada (T-H-L)
It looks like an ad, complete with the use of "we." It also has the phrase "last year" without specifying what year. Oh, and the organization is over 32 years old.
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Re: Crap articles
That's no excuse for the article not being amended significantly in the subsequent 6½ years. After all, Wikipedia is constantly improving.mynameisnotdave wrote:The creator and principal author of the page, StryoFome (T-C-L), was blocked as a sockpuppet.Poetlister wrote:The article on Two Little Girls in Blue (T-H-L), a 1921 Broadway show, fails to note that the title song is an old British music hall number written in 1893, nearly 30 years earlier. It also does not say that this was the first show where Ira Gershwin wrote the lyrics.
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