Beta M again

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Beta M again

Unread post by Peter Damian » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:28 pm

The strange discussion continues here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commo ... nst_Beta_M . Saibo produces evidence that Beta M cannot have gone to prison, Tarc objects, Saibo calls him out for bullshitting, then there is a strange discussion that would interest linguistic philosophers about whether 'global locking' of an account is the same as 'banning' or not.
Beta M is prohibited from logging in to any Wikimedia project. That is "banned" by any stretch of the definition of the word, and it is how I will refer to this user in discussions. Tarc (talk) 15:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
But Saibo disagrees. The last word today is from Derrick Coetzee who talks about some mysterious private information which he cannot divulge on the project which values freedom of information more than anything else on the planet.
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by lilburne » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:36 pm

The probably paid the $5 necessary to unlock his arrest mugshot.
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by eppur si muove » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:47 pm

Is there a picture of Beta M anywher on the net?

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by Peter Damian » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:05 pm

eppur si muove wrote:Is there a picture of Beta M anywher on the net?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_IqyEco ... r_embedded
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by lilburne » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:08 pm

Additionally there are plenty of images of him with his brains in his hand.
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Unread post by SB_Johnny » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:10 pm

Peter Damian wrote:
eppur si muove wrote:Is there a picture of Beta M anywher on the net?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_IqyEco ... r_embedded
Pretty much a dead ringer for the mental picture.
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by Peter Damian » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:13 pm

Oops I see this thread overlaps with the other one here viewtopic.php?f=15&p=3076#p3076 . Sorry.
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by eppur si muove » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:15 pm

lilburne wrote:Additionally there are plenty of images of him with his brains in his hand.
If it really does cost only $5 to get his mugshot from the law, then someone richer than me might find it worthwhile spending that money. Commons might even want a picture for itself ;-)

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by HRIP7 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:53 am

Peter Cohen mentioned on SilkTork's talk page that a von Gloeden photograph was the lead image of the Wikipedia article on Pederasty (T-H-L). It seemed an odd choice for a lead image, but it has been there for three months, with little recent controversy (there were edit wars over it in the past).

Its insertion was the last of three edits made by an account named Volodio Anarhist (T-C-L), which basically returned the article to the state it had been in in September 2009 (link).

The account's earlier two edits were vandalism to the same article. I don't think it's particularly likely that this was Beta M, but it's still an odd and noteworthy edit. An account with a name mimicking that of a Foundation-banned user goes into an article related to that user's ban, undoes two-and-a-half years of work, in the process re-inserting a controversial image, and no one notices.

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by The Wife » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:31 pm

HRIP7 wrote:Peter Cohen mentioned on SilkTork's talk page that a von Gloeden photograph was the lead image of the Wikipedia article on Pederasty (T-H-L). It seemed an odd choice for a lead image, but it has been there for three months, with little recent controversy (there were edit wars over it in the past).

Its insertion was the last of three edits made by an account named Volodio Anarhist (T-C-L), which basically returned the article to the state it had been in in September 2009 (link).

The account's earlier two edits were vandalism to the same article. I don't think it's particularly likely that this was Beta M, but it's still an odd and noteworthy edit. An account with a name mimicking that of a Foundation-banned user goes into an article related to that user's ban, undoes two-and-a-half years of work, in the process re-inserting a controversial image, and no one notices.

Does the account name Volodio Anarhist (T-C-L) mimic the name of Beta M in some way?

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Unread post by cyofee » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:37 pm

He signed his name as VolodyA! V Anarhist.
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by The Wife » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:51 pm

cyofee wrote:He signed his name as VolodyA! V Anarhist.
I see the resemblance now. His sig was different than his user name.

Thanks.

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Unread post by Vocal » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:29 pm

HRIP7 wrote:Peter Cohen mentioned on SilkTork's talk page that a von Gloeden photograph was the lead image of the Wikipedia article on Pederasty (T-H-L). It seemed an odd choice for a lead image, but it has been there for three months, with little recent controversy (there were edit wars over it in the past).

Its insertion was the last of three edits made by an account named Volodio Anarhist (T-C-L), which basically returned the article to the state it had been in in September 2009 (link).

The account's earlier two edits were vandalism to the same article. I don't think it's particularly likely that this was Beta M, but it's still an odd and noteworthy edit. An account with a name mimicking that of a Foundation-banned user goes into an article related to that user's ban, undoes two-and-a-half years of work, in the process re-inserting a controversial image, and no one notices.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was whoever was responsible for this little blow-up.

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by HRIP7 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:32 pm

RED2 wrote: I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was whoever was responsible for this little blow-up.
Thanks, well spotted. :)

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by Alison » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:12 pm

HRIP7 wrote:
RED2 wrote: I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was whoever was responsible for this little blow-up.
Thanks, well spotted. :)
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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by EricBarbour » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:46 pm

Alison wrote:
HRIP7 wrote:
RED2 wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was whoever was responsible for this little blow-up.
Thanks, well spotted. :)
It's Johnny The Vandal / JtV / "Text" just stirring trouble on pedo-related articles. As he does ...
An "homage" to the real PD? :dry:

I wish JtV would email me and tell me exactly which socks are his, and which ones are blamed on him yet aren't him......

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by Vocal » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:39 am

EricBarbour wrote:
Alison wrote:
HRIP7 wrote:
RED2 wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was whoever was responsible for this little blow-up.
Thanks, well spotted. :)
It's Johnny The Vandal / JtV / "Text" just stirring trouble on pedo-related articles. As he does ...
An "homage" to the real PD? :dry:

I wish JtV would email me and tell me exactly which socks are his, and which ones are blamed on him yet aren't him......
That might be a very long mail!

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by lilburne » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:45 pm

They have been inserting little memes in everybody's mind
So Google's shills can shriek there whenever they're inclined

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by Vocal » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:15 am

And that's precisely why we would like a global ban policy implemented. We
would prefer an established, community-monitored process that we can turn
to when at all possible (and make no mistake, in this case it was needed; I
wish we could give all the specifics, but for privacy reasons, we just
can't). Because we didn't have that, we had to break new ground with the
Office actions policy. I hope we never have to use that again.
"community-monitored". Nonsense. It may be "monitored", but only by the game-players who care what goes on at Meta. Very little good can come of such a process.

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Re: Beta M again

Unread post by Tarc » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:48 pm

Interesting that that foundation mailing list thread on Beta M died out very quickly the other day.

Btw, new avatar as ppl were getting too gripey about Penn.

Mod note: final comment removed to avoid respawning diversionary thread.
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