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Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:54 pm

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MichaelMaggs#WMUK.27s_MacMini

Russavia is now asking Wikimedia UK to bribe Fae with a MacMini in exchange for unsubscribing from WMUK mailing lists. Wikimedia shouldn't tolerate this sort of demand-making from Russavia.

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Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:33 pm

Fae agrees with Russavia's scheme. Given that Fae is now in the process of obtaining tangible, material goods from his relationship with Russavia, shouldn't he be topic-banned from proxying for Russavia at Wikipedia? It's pretty clear that he has acted as Russavia's attack dog at the English Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2014_November_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2014/Candidates/Salvio_giuliano/Questions#Questions_from_F.C3.A6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2014/Candidates/Salvio_giuliano

Now Russavia is rewarding Fae with material goods for his fidelity to him.
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Unread post by Zoloft » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:41 pm

Michaeldsuarez wrote:Fae agrees with Russavia's scheme.
Perhaps Wikimedia UK should hold a bake sale.

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Unread post by Sparky » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:27 pm

Zoloft wrote:
Michaeldsuarez wrote:Fae agrees with Russavia's scheme.
Perhaps Wikimedia UK should hold a bake sale.
WMUK should hold an auction for ownership of the MacMini and send a photographer with the new owner so that the change of custody can be posted to Commons.

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Unread post by Silent Editor » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:27 am

Sparky wrote:
Zoloft wrote:
Michaeldsuarez wrote:Fae agrees with Russavia's scheme.
Perhaps Wikimedia UK should hold a bake sale.
WMUK should hold an auction for ownership of the MacMini and send a photographer with the new owner so that the change of custody can be posted to Commons.
Except they really need to claim some sort of credit for Fae's uploads to commons (the numbers are impressive, and quantity counts in performance measures). Buying Fae off would seem to be a perfect solution for WMUK and Fae... but I doubt Fae could stay silent for a year, and it would set a nice precedent... critics of WMUK could all look forward to free computers!

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Unread post by thekohser » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:09 pm

MacMinis for one, MacMinis for all!
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Unread post by Randy from Boise » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:20 pm

thekohser wrote:MacMinis for one, MacMinis for all!
WMUK is a great institution. WMF should be proud for enabling them...

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Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:22 pm

thekohser wrote:MacMinis for one, MacMinis for all!
"Gift"? How can it be a gift when Russavia was pressuring MichaelMaggs? An object wrested out of someone's (or some entity's) ownership is not called a gift; it's called a trophy, and I'm sure that Russavia and Fae are happy at obtaining this trophy.

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Unread post by Jim » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:16 pm

thekohser wrote:MacMinis for one, MacMinis for all!
How pathetic is that?
I almost wish I lived back in the UK again so I could complain.

But, on reflection, Ashley, if the best you got is a USB stick and a knackered old Mac, set against the entire world knowing what a twat you are and the enormous amusement your various embarrassments have brought us - yeah, it's ok.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:11 pm

Jim wrote:
thekohser wrote:MacMinis for one, MacMinis for all!
How pathetic is that?
I almost wish I lived back in the UK again so I could complain.

But, on reflection, Ashley, if the best you got is a USB stick and a knackered old Mac, set against the entire world knowing what a twat you are and the enormous amusement your various embarrassments have brought us - yeah, it's ok.
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Unread post by Jim » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:43 am

Vigilant wrote:
Jim wrote: Cheap at half the price.
He should use that as a sock-name, or signature, or motto or something.

Apt.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:04 am

Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Jim wrote: Cheap at half the price.
He should use that as a sock-name, or signature, or motto or something.

Apt.
I kept thinking, "something something ... MacMinis for Mortal Men doomed to ban ... something something ... and in the darkness bind him ..."


Edit:
Just saw this...
https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?ti ... ldid=63031
I was a Wikimedia UK board member during 2011-2013, being part of the board that with enormous unpaid volunteer effort created the UK Charity. I was the chair of Wikimedia UK in 2012. In the same year, I was the first Chair of the Wikimedia Chapters Association and I co-founded the Wikimedia LGBT group, which became recognized as a User Group in 2014 for which I am a co-signature. Until 2014, I am the only openly gay trustee for Wikimedia UK, being voted in with LGBT projects as part of my stated reasons for becoming a trustee.

On the Wikimedia Projects I am best known for contributions on Wikimedia Commons, with more than 750,000 uploaded media files and more than 4,500,000 edits under my main account and my bot account, mostly GLAM project related volunteer work, with no funding.

A sad final note with regard to my volunteer work has been that in 2014 the board of WMUK rejected my membership for reasons of "tone", shortly after I publicly complained about a misleading report about the work of the charity (which was corrected). This went to a vote of members at the AGM where the board had a specialist charity lawyer advising them on what to say, and all members attending were allowed to speak, apart from myself (the current chairman using the rationale that I was not a member). I remain the only Wikimedia volunteer in the history of the chapter who has had their membership payment rejected and I remain a non-member of WMUK unable to borrow equipment and unable to make project proposals for chapter funding, these aspects of the work of the charity having their policies changed to be restricted to members and therefore exclude me; after the 2014 AGM.
Spare a penny, guv'ner?

Edit2:
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Volunteer Equipment

Following the Board Meeting on Saturday 4th October, anyone wishing to use volunteer equipment will have to be a member of the charity.Fabian Tompsett (WMUK) (talk) 10:17, 7 October 2014 (BST)

Wow. This hard on the heels of the Chapter refusing to allow me to borrow a projector for this month's LGBT editathon and without tracking all attendees of the event on chapter databases. I would like to see a detailed public explanation of why it is necessary and in the interests of open knowledge to only loan equipment purchased to fulfil the shared open knowledge mission of the charity to members, and exclude non-members with active Wikimedia projects on the go who happen to not have membership along with the privilege of voting in chapter elections. Timing would seem to indicate this change has been agreed to ensure I am further excluded from working with the charity that I helped to create, so another "Fae case" change in membership policy.

By the way, we wrote the policy on volunteer loan equipment to state that "The borrower need not be a member of Wikimedia UK" (which nicely fits our the original values of the charity of not just existing for the benefit of members) and the policy still states this. --Fæ (talk) 14:12, 7 October 2014 (BST)
Get it, Ashley?
You're less welcome than leprosy.

I wonder why that is...


Ah, yes....
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Fae
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Unread post by Jim » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:13 am

Vigilant wrote: Get it, Ashley?
You're less welcome than leprosy.

I wonder why that is...


Ah, yes....
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Fae
That's it.
Leprophobe. :furious:

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:45 am

Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote: Get it, Ashley?
You're less welcome than leprosy.

I wonder why that is...


Ah, yes....
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Fae
That's it.
Leprophobe. :furious:
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Unread post by Jim » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:47 pm

Vigilant wrote: Spare a penny, guv'ner?
...
You're less welcome than leprosy.
...
"All right, sir. My final offer: half a shekel for an old ex-leper."
Ashley just needs to find, "you know, something beggable, but not leprosy."

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Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote: Spare a penny, guv'ner?
...
You're less welcome than leprosy.
...
"All right, sir. My final offer: half a shekel for an old ex-leper."
Ashley just needs to find, "you know, something beggable, but not leprosy."
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Unread post by Silent Editor » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:58 am

Having got Ashley a computer, the tag-team has moved on to getting him his Commons Admin bit.

Michael Maggs is not quite so cooperative this time around...
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Unread post by spartaz » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:24 pm

Surprise, surprise that Russavia isn't exactly helping fae in the way he is responding to comments. Displaying a picture of a couple of naked blokes to embarrass an opposer seems a bit .. Um.. below the belt!
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Unread post by Jim » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:35 pm

Silent Editor wrote:Having got Ashley a computer, the tag-team has moved on to getting him his Commons Admin bit.

Michael Maggs is not quite so cooperative this time around...
:popcorn:
It's kinda cute how there are different shades of red in the little oppose icons. Brighter the more strident and "red-faced" the oppose is. They need more shades.

You know, I don't think I can even be bothered pasting my oppose from last time, there's no need - although it would be apt since he's largely copypastad the RFA itself.

And bless him, from his talk page:
RFA
Talk page watchers may be interested in reading Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(5). The outcome sets the foundation for my New Year contributions to Commons. Fæ (talk) 09:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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But wait, this is the tear-jerker that never ends:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... =142132425
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Shortly after Wikimedia UK refused my membership of the UK charity (I am the only person this has ever happened to), I have been kicked out of OTRS as a volunteer with no clear reason other than no longer being a member of my local chapter. Consequently I am now unable to help others on Commons with OTRS tickets. I started helping with OTRS in 2010 and understand it well, helping to lead a training workshop in 2012, which has since turned out to be the only 'official' workshop for volunteers. Should anyone want advice on the nature of liability, or how it is neither a secure nor confidential system, I would be happy to advise based on my experience as a volunteer over the last 4 years.
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Unread post by SB_Johnny » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:46 pm

Looks like Sandstein is in their sights now.
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Unread post by Cla68 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:11 pm

SB_Johnny wrote:Looks like Sandstein is in their sights now.
:popcorn:
Sandstein is getting his butt handed to him on that request of his. This is probably worthy of a separate thread about how admins like him/her are so happy to hand out sanctions to other editors but can't abide it when they are questioned on their own behavior.

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spartaz wrote:Surprise, surprise that Russavia isn't exactly helping fae in the way he is responding to comments. Displaying a picture of a couple of naked blokes to embarrass an opposer seems a bit .. Um.. below the belt!
The IRC chat indicates otherwise:
#wikimedia-commons wrote: [05:36] <comets> ahh typical commons, nude men in rfas :p
[05:36] <russavia> i'm seeing a lot of blow-ins from people who never edit commons coming to vote in a particular RFA
[05:37] <russavia> such shit has to stop by having some sort of edit requirements
[05:38] <comets> make sure there are pictures of boobs in my commons RfA... 9_9
[05:38] <russavia> take https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spartaz for example -- 50 edits in 2.5 years -- should their "vote" be included in RFAs? I don't think so
[05:38] * Thibaut120094 (~Thibaut12@wikimedia/Thibaut120094) has joined #wikimedia-commons
[05:38] <russavia> sure comets :>
Some interesting* comments from Fae:
#wikimedia-commons wrote: [07:28] <Fae_mobile> A brief look at Spartaz's contributions on Commons over the last 2 years shows an interesting pattern. Though he was instrumental to outing accounts, after all I trusted him by reviewing my accounts with him in 2010, he then passed on my confidential emails, without even informing me, in 2012 to Arbcom... So much for trusted users respecting confidentiality. Old history now I guess, however...
[07:28] <Fae_mobile> ...it explains so of the nastiness being shown in public.
[07:29] * Jurgen|Cloud (uid11155@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eimbbogxhzvcuvst) has joined #wikimedia-commons
[07:29] <Fae_mobile> All tangential for my RFA, it has nothing to do with Commons at all.
[07:30] <Fae_mobile> Strange really. 5 years later and the same people are haunting me. You think they would have something better to do with their time.
[07:31] <russavia> i think 100 edits in project space (Commons: and File:) in a 12 month period prior to a RFA being raised to be eligible to vote would be a useful thing -- it would certainly stop the blow ins
[07:32] * James_F|Away is now known as James_F
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[07:33] * James_F is now known as James_F|Away
[07:34] <russavia> and not just RfA but all "advanced" permissions -- Admin, CU, OS, Crat
[07:35] <JollyOldStNick> waste of time, you can do that with a VFC change in a split second
[07:37] <russavia> of course, but you would have to do the 100 required edits BEFORE the initiation of the request
[07:37] <JollyOldStNick> which you could do on 1 January and keep current once a year.
[07:37] * yurb (~user@31.43.73.19) has joined #wikimedia-commons
[07:37] * yurb (~user@31.43.73.19) Quit (Changing host)
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[07:38] <russavia> yep, but then it would show at least some "community" -- people like Spartaz aren't going to contribute to Commons in any meaningful way -- they'll come, vote/troll and then leave
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[07:39] * RD (~Rjd0060@wikimedia/Rjd0060) Quit (Quit: Quit.)
[07:41] * T13|mobile is now known as T13|needsCoffee
[07:43] * Hellebore (56b9e840@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.185.232.64) has joined #wikimedia-commons
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[07:46] <Fae_mobile> JollyOldStNick: However, one can add a sanity clause to cater for obvious manipulation. :-)
[07:46] * Julian|H1 is now known as Julian|H
[07:47] * RD2 is now known as RD
[07:48] <Fae_mobile> LOL, just imagine the fuss if 10 or 20 Commonsists who hardly ever edit on en.wp were to rock up and spam an RFA there. We'd soon see accounts being blocked for gaming the system.
[07:49] <russavia> it already does happen
[07:49] <Fae_mobile> Darn, you'll have to invite me to the next spam and fritters party on en.wp then. ;-) Right now I'm watching Mr Darcy misbehaving. Naughty boy.
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The IRC chat indicates otherwise:
#wikimedia-commons wrote: [05:36] <comets> ahh typical commons, nude men in rfas :p
[05:36] <russavia> i'm seeing a lot of blow-ins from people who never edit commons coming to vote in a particular RFA
[05:37] <russavia> such shit has to stop by having some sort of edit requirements
[05:38] <comets> make sure there are pictures of boobs in my commons RfA... 9_9
[05:38] <russavia> take https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spec ... ns/Spartaz for example -- 50 edits in 2.5 years -- should their "vote" be included in RFAs? I don't think so
[05:38] * Thibaut120094 (~Thibaut12@wikimedia/Thibaut120094) has joined #wikimedia-commons
[05:38] <russavia> sure comets :>
You would think that Russavia has been carrying a grudge ever since I indef blocked him on en? I'm sure it wasn't revenge that was motivating him to go through my uploads to find anything he could delete...
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Unread post by Vigilant » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:58 pm

The WMF really should roll into commons and reset all the flags for advanced permissions.

It's such a shit fest.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:35 pm

Hiya, shitbirds!

There's nothing commons could do that would more validate the WMF coming in and cleaning out commons with fire.
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spartaz wrote:You would think that Russavia has been carrying a grudge ever since I indef blocked him on en? I'm sure it wasn't revenge that was motivating him to go through my uploads to find anything he could delete...
It's all they've got. It's very sad.

They once had a half-arsed go at doing that to stuff I'd uploaded, when I voted against something or other, until they realised it was mostly just stuff I'd improved on request for other people, and I didn't care one iota about it, or, indeed, care if they transparently made themselves look like twats by messing with it.

Anyway, given the fuckwittery in play, I changed my mind and popped in an oppose in honour of Ms. Streisand.

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Unread post by eagle » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:05 am

Just as children should be free to use "cucumber" in the Search box without NSFW images appearing, the typical Wikipedian should be free to visit Commons:Administrators/Requests at work without fear of NSFW images illustrating the debate. It is very unfortunate that the image cannot be hidden behind a link with a NSFW warning.

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spartaz wrote:Displaying a picture of a couple of naked blokes to embarrass an opposer seems a bit .. Um.. below the belt!
As opposed to displaying a picture of one naked bloke to embarrass oneself?
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Unread post by The Adversary » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:37 pm

Link, in case anyone missed it:
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(5)
So far: 18 supports, 18 oppose.

It´s official: Fæ is "Masochist of the Year".

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The Adversary wrote:Link, in case anyone missed it:
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(5)
So far: 18 supports, 18 oppose.

It´s official: Fæ is "Masochist of the Year".
I enjoyed this:
Support. ...Only worry would be inappropriate blocks performed by this user...
ok. gotcha. just some inappropriate blocks to worry about then. no biggie...

But..., hang on, isn't that what we're supposed to be here to...? Never mind... :blink:

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:41 pm

My favorite!
Symbol support vote.svg Support per Tarc. Kaldari (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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from his en.wp page...and that both commons and en.wp have contributions all during December even though the retiration was in the beginning.
I'm assuming that commons admins don't want retired users just breezing in and voting on admin elections...

I wonder what the WMF thinks of paid employees voting in commons elections for one of the most disgraced members in wikipedia's history...during work hours too.
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Re: Russavia-Fae proxying reaching new extremes

Unread post by Jim » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:59 pm

Vigilant wrote:My favorite!
Symbol support vote.svg Support per Tarc. Kaldari (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Strange given this
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from his en.wp page...and that both commons and en.wp have contributions all during December even though the retiration was in the beginning.
I'm assuming that commons admins don't want retired users just breezing in and voting on admin elections...

I wonder what the WMF thinks of paid employees voting in commons elections for one of the most disgraced members in wikipedia's history...during work hours too.
Heh. I noticed Mr. Kaldari showed up. What a shining beacon of support that is.

You'll enjoy this, Vig, although I expect you're supposed to: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... =144969170

I thought twice about this video earlier, because I thought there might be some "poor taste", but fuck it, it's funny:
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As performances go, it was my low point.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:02 pm

Perhaps Scott is an Oliver Keyes fan?

Although a fork does seem ever so slightly less subtle than a pen for throat stabbing, at least he isn't insisting on only stabbing women.
Perhaps he's an equal opportunity burner alive type person too.

We can only hope for more such gender equality from our beloved admin corps in the new year.
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Unread post by Jim » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:17 pm

Vigilant wrote:Perhaps Scott is an Oliver Keyes fan?

Although a fork does seem ever so slightly less subtle than a pen for throat stabbing, at least he isn't insisting on only stabbing women.
Perhaps he's an equal opportunity burner alive type person too.

We can only hope for more such gender equality from our beloved admin corps in the new year.
It's performance art. Typed for us to see. We see. Well done. It's lovely.

Do you have anything else though, guys? I doubt you do after all this time, if only because I know you can't contain anything for an earth minute.

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Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Perhaps Scott is an Oliver Keyes fan?

Although a fork does seem ever so slightly less subtle than a pen for throat stabbing, at least he isn't insisting on only stabbing women.
Perhaps he's an equal opportunity burner alive type person too.

We can only hope for more such gender equality from our beloved admin corps in the new year.
It's performance art. Typed for us to see. We see. Well done. It's lovely.

Do you have anything else though, guys? I doubt you do after all this time, if only because I know you can't contain anything for an earth minute.
I have exquisite self control in this area.
I am hoarding my stash for the right moment.

I feel like someone has a ton of gold in a hidden repository and who knows with certainty that gold prices will spike eventually and doesn't want to sell too early or dribble it out depressing the inevitable peak price. I'm in for the big score!
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Unread post by Jim » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:28 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Perhaps Scott is an Oliver Keyes fan?

Although a fork does seem ever so slightly less subtle than a pen for throat stabbing, at least he isn't insisting on only stabbing women.
Perhaps he's an equal opportunity burner alive type person too.

We can only hope for more such gender equality from our beloved admin corps in the new year.
It's performance art. Typed for us to see. We see. Well done. It's lovely.

Do you have anything else though, guys? I doubt you do after all this time, if only because I know you can't contain anything for an earth minute.
I have exquisite self control in this area.
I am hoarding my stash for the right moment.

I feel like someone has a ton of gold in a hidden repository and who knows with certainty that gold prices will spike eventually and doesn't want to sell too early or dribble it out depressing the inevitable peak price. I'm in for the big score!
Meh.
You'll never need it.

Self destruct is strong, I think, in this pair.
Don't waste the force.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:47 pm

Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Perhaps Scott is an Oliver Keyes fan?

Although a fork does seem ever so slightly less subtle than a pen for throat stabbing, at least he isn't insisting on only stabbing women.
Perhaps he's an equal opportunity burner alive type person too.

We can only hope for more such gender equality from our beloved admin corps in the new year.
It's performance art. Typed for us to see. We see. Well done. It's lovely.

Do you have anything else though, guys? I doubt you do after all this time, if only because I know you can't contain anything for an earth minute.
I have exquisite self control in this area.
I am hoarding my stash for the right moment.

I feel like someone has a ton of gold in a hidden repository and who knows with certainty that gold prices will spike eventually and doesn't want to sell too early or dribble it out depressing the inevitable peak price. I'm in for the big score!
Meh.
You'll never need it.

Self destruct is strong, I think, in this pair.
Don't waste the force.
Wikipediots are a transient bunch.
Given enough time and ennui within the community, I could see him getting close to the mark. Perhaps with Fae_9 or Fae_10.

If you look at the current RfA, nobody has mentioned the obvious:
* Sockpuppeting
* Suborning a WMF employee
* BLP issues
* Out of process deletes on commons for his photos
* WMUK banishment
* OTRS stripping
* Indef block from ARBCOM on en.wp
* Flickr Washing
* Plagiarism
* Constant drama and ABF issues
And on and on and on...

At some point, he'll exhaust the community's patience and they'll heave a collective sigh and give him the tools.

At that shining moment, I'll come down like the Archangel Michael with a flaming sword and cleave the wicked one where he stands.
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Re: Russavia-Fae proxying reaching new extremes

Unread post by Jim » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:54 pm

Vigilant wrote:At that shining moment, I'll come down like the Archangel Michael with a flaming sword and cleave the wicked one where he stands.
Even so, and even under those circumstances, I think you should give him about half an hour to do that to himself even more anusingly.

He's proven quite good at that.

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Unread post by The Adversary » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:11 pm

Vigilant wrote: At some point, he'll exhaust the community's patience and they'll heave a collective sigh and give him the tools.

At that shining moment, I'll come down like the Archangel Michael with a flaming sword and cleave the wicked one where he stands.
Lets see,
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ Support = 18; Oppose = 23;
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ2 Support = 12; Oppose = 14; Neutral =7
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ3 Support = 16; Oppose = 27; Neutral =3
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ4 Support = 15; Oppose = 22;
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(5) So far: Support: 18; Oppose: 19

At this rate, it will be at least Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(101) before we have any chance of seeing Archangel Vigilant. :P

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Unread post by Jim » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:20 pm

The Adversary wrote:
Vigilant wrote: At some point, he'll exhaust the community's patience and they'll heave a collective sigh and give him the tools.

At that shining moment, I'll come down like the Archangel Michael with a flaming sword and cleave the wicked one where he stands.
Lets see,
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ Support = 18; Oppose = 23;
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ2 Support = 12; Oppose = 14; Neutral =7
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ3 Support = 16; Oppose = 27; Neutral =3
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ4 Support = 15; Oppose = 22;
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(5) So far: Support: 18; Oppose: 19

At this rate, it will be at least Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ(101) before we have any chance of seeing Archangel Vigilant. :P
They are remarkably similar results, aren't they?

Why would that be?

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Jim wrote: They are remarkably similar results, aren't they?

Why would that be?
He hasn´t changed?

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Unread post by Jim » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:30 pm

The Adversary wrote:
Jim wrote: They are remarkably similar results, aren't they?

Why would that be?
He hasn´t changed?
That's a really simplistic analysis.

I agree.

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Unread post by spartaz » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:46 pm

Fae is the marmite of commons - you either like him or loath him but its highly unlikely you will change your mind...

Russavia is more Vegemite - not the taste but being the excrement of dead microbes.
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Unread post by Anthonyhcole » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:04 am

Amazing exchange.
I don't really count "sincef my last RFA ten months ago" as "long past". The outrageous behavioural issues I witnessed were spread over many months so one can't really put them down to feeling a bit tired one night, for example. My own personal experience is far from unique and part of a problem spread over years and on multiple Wikimedia projects. Is there any evidence that someone who doesn't appreciate a photograph of two naked men "with their freakin' dicks out" might be NSFW has improved his skills of judgement? Or that you have come to realise that implying anti-LGBT bias in your opponents (as happened to me, and also the whole of the feature picture forum) was kinda bad and wrong of you? Or perhaps this admin candidate, who wishes to participate in deletion closures, actually now understands what "derivative work" means (Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Toys, July 2014) and has read our official guideline on the term. You claim my remarks are based on the Fae of the past (which you don't challenge) and you are now a changed man. But a man changed enough to change my vote would admit his past failings, indicate remorse, and attempt reconciliation with those he had wronged. -- Colin (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments Colin. I had hoped that avoiding you completely would calm you down. I am sorry that after 10 months of zero interaction you are still so angry about the fact that we disagree about how to implement "NSFW" on Commons. --Fæ (talk) 20:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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Question Fæ Thanks for your answer to my initial question. I have done some spot checking on your contributions in the Commons main space, and I do in fact get the impression that you have improved over the last year, when it comes to drama. So thumbs up for that. Colin mentioned a few cases above, which gave rise to eyes-rolling and Facepalm (yellow).svg on my part, but they are about a year old, and I am willing to give them only litte weight for the time being. The CU discussion which has been referred to above is recent though and does not reflect well on your personal judgement in my opinion though - it seems disconnected with reality. In my spot checking I stumbled across another recent discussion regarding the Finnish Museum of Photography. The discussion started out with a museum account asking for permission to the GWToolset. Dschwen initiated the discussion, then russavia and you joined the discussion. Image for a minute that you were the Finnish Museum of Photography witnessing that discussion from the outside. What impression would you get of Commons, and how do you see your own role in what impression they would get? Would there have been other or better ways to resolve the disagreement you had with Dschwen about account naming policies? Unfortunately, the Museum is now rethinking their participation. -- Slaunger (talk) 09:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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spartaz wrote:Fae is the marmite of commons - you either like him or loath him but its highly unlikely you will change your mind...

Russavia is more Vegemite - not the taste but being the excrement of dead microbes.
I never could tell the difference between marmite and vegemite myself. Both repulsive and inedible.

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Randy from Boise wrote:
spartaz wrote:Fae is the marmite of commons - you either like him or loath him but its highly unlikely you will change your mind...

Russavia is more Vegemite - not the taste but being the excrement of dead microbes.
I never could tell the difference between marmite and vegemite myself. Both repulsive and inedible.

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They are both pretty good on toast.
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Ross McPherson wrote:
Randy from Boise wrote:
spartaz wrote:Fae is the marmite of commons - you either like him or loath him but its highly unlikely you will change your mind...

Russavia is more Vegemite - not the taste but being the excrement of dead microbes.
I never could tell the difference between marmite and vegemite myself. Both repulsive and inedible.

RfB
They are both pretty good on toast.
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Unread post by Jim » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:19 pm

Randy from Boise wrote:
spartaz wrote:Fae is the marmite of commons - you either like him or loath him but its highly unlikely you will change your mind...

Russavia is more Vegemite - not the taste but being the excrement of dead microbes.
I never could tell the difference between marmite and vegemite myself. Both repulsive and inedible.

RfB
I'm with you Tim, hideous stuff.

Hate them both, and I was born and raised in the Land of Marmite, long time resident of the home of Vegemite.
Wife and daughter love the latter... ugh...

But you guys are ideally placed to be the impartial judges:
Aussies and Brits have long argued over which is superior. Americans give the definitive answer
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