Newyorkbrad announces he's "off for fun"

[neved]

Newyorkbrad came up with yet another poem, which he plagiarized from this old nursery rhyme, signing it with his user name with no mentioning where the rhymes came from:

Hickory Dickory Dock
My post ran out the clock
The clock struck none,
I'm off for fun,
But first I've been trolled by a sock.

Newyorkbrad (talk) 07:45, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

So just for fun I used another nursery rhyme to respond:

There is a crooked man with a crooked smile.
He writes crooked poems in a crooked style.
He trolls a crooked site, from his crooked house,
And imposes crocked blocks, clicking his crooked mouse.

[AndyTheGrump]

God, the members of this forum are getting desperate. First we have Kohs creating multiple threads concerning the astonishing revelations about Jimbo forgetting to sign on, and now Newyorkbrad is being hauled over the coals for 'plagiarising' a nursery rhyme written by who-knows-who back in the days when everyone plagiarised everyone else (see W. Shakespeare) and nobody gave a fart...

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

[Midsize Jake]

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

Don't underestimate the sheer momentousness of their finally managing to pull off an interesting DYK hook, much less a correct one.

[Jim]

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

I dunno. "Someone responds to a harmless, jokey little poem with a harmless, jokey little poem - world ends at 11" maybe?

God, the members of this forum are getting desperate.

Aren't you a member? You should join.

Consider also that at the other site, there's probably half a chance your post would be instantly wrapped in one of those lovely "hat with last word" templates, with a pearl of wisdom like "CLOSED:Wikipediocracy Review is thataway" at the top.

But yeah, silly is silly.

[Jim]

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

Don't underestimate the sheer momentousness of their finally managing to pull off an interesting DYK hook, much less a correct one.

Indeed. But Andy is correct that expecting to maintain an interesting criticism site just on the strength of a hen's tooth like that would be foolhardy, should anyone consider doing so.
I think that's what he meant. You could, and I would, call it a strawman, but not fundamentally untrue. Just silly. See, I can do them too...

[Midsize Jake]

...Andy is correct that expecting to maintain an interesting criticism site just on the strength of a hen's tooth like that would be foolhardy, should anyone consider doing so.

Well, good thing this isn't our only thread, then!

I'll admit, I've never liked seeing these threads where someone has done a spin-job on the title to get people to click on it, only to find it describes a trivial incident posted just to stir the pot on some simmering vendetta or other. We could delete it, but that often makes it worse... and now here *I* am, failing to ignore it like I should. And on a Friday night, no less.

I need a better agent...

[EricBarbour]

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

You don't get to see the really juicy stuff. Sorry.

[Zoloft]

Now, now, AndyTheGrump is a valued member of these forums. He risks considerable credibility on Wikipedia just by being a member and posting here.

[Kiefer.Wolfowitz]

I authorize Andy to vote with my proxy, here and at Wikipedia.

Andy is too gentle to use this smiley, so I shall do it for him:

[neved]

God, the members of this forum are getting desperate. First we have Kohs creating multiple threads concerning the astonishing revelations about Jimbo forgetting to sign on, and now Newyorkbrad is being hauled over the coals for 'plagiarising' a nursery rhyme written by who-knows-who back in the days when everyone plagiarised everyone else (see W. Shakespeare) and nobody gave a fart...

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

What shall we do with the grumpy pirate?
What shall we do with the grumpy pirate?
What shall we do with the grumpy pirate?
Early in the morning

Hooray and up she rises
Hooray and up she rises
Hooray and up she rises
Early in the morning

Do a little jig and make him smile
Do a little jig and make him smile
Do a little jig and make him smile
Early in the morning

But I failed making him smile.

[neved]

...Andy is correct that expecting to maintain an interesting criticism site just on the strength of a hen's tooth like that would be foolhardy, should anyone consider doing so.

Well, good thing this isn't our only thread, then!

I'll admit, I've never liked seeing these threads where someone has done a spin-job on the title to get people to click on it, only to find it describes a trivial incident posted just to stir the pot on some simmering vendetta or other. We could delete it, but that often makes it worse... and now here *I* am, failing to ignore it like I should. And on a Friday night, no less.

I need a better agent...

And I was happy with my title.

[thekohser]

I can't wait...

I can't wait for you to start contributing usefully to this site, rather than just bitching and moaning about things that you could more easily ignore.

[Kumioko]

I can't wait...

I can't wait for you to start contributing usefully to this site, rather than just bitching and moaning about things that you could more easily ignore.

Heresa potential future discussion. AndyTheGrump, cheers up!

[Zoloft]

I can't wait...

I can't wait for you to start contributing usefully to this site, rather than just bitching and moaning about things that you could more easily ignore.

You mean, "he doesn't seem to be here to criticize an encyclopedia?"

[Randy from Boise]

God, the members of this forum are getting desperate. First we have Kohs creating multiple threads concerning the astonishing revelations about Jimbo forgetting to sign on, and now Newyorkbrad is being hauled over the coals for 'plagiarising' a nursery rhyme written by who-knows-who back in the days when everyone plagiarised everyone else (see W. Shakespeare) and nobody gave a fart...

What astonishing news will we see next: ArbCom member misspells 'indefinite'? 'Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard' found to contain entire paragraph with no obscure Wikipedia jargon? DYK hook found to be both correct and interesting? I can't wait...

+1

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

RfB

[SB_Johnny]

Newyorkbrad came up with yet another poem, which he plagiarized from this old nursery rhyme, signing it with his user name with no mentioning where the rhymes came from:

Hickory Dickory Dock
My post ran out the clock
The clock struck none,
I'm off for fun,
But first I've been trolled by a sock.

Newyorkbrad (talk) 07:45, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Hah, he was probably plagiarizing Andrew Dice Clay (T-H-L)

[Captain Occam]

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

RfB

I've got a bit of Wikipedia doggerel I wrote about two years ago that I don't think I've ever posted here. I'll post it if anyone wants to see it, but it's about a sockmaster (Echigo mole) who's been inactive for more than a year, so I'm not sure anyone will remember him.

[Kumioko]

Lol, I think I'll take a stab at one myself:

Hickory Dickory Dock
The Arbs ran out the clock
The case went long,
When all was done,
They doled out a mere admonishment.

[lonza leggiera]

Jimbo's fight with Kohs has won
the latter's lifetime ban,
and everything that Jimbo's done
Kohs was sure to pan.

Jimbo bravely took a gun
to shoot some fruit and veg.
Thought Kohs with glee,"Let's have some fun.
This must give me an edge."

He tried with blatant mockery
to effect Jimbo's embarrassment,
but due to puppet sockery
he's now accused of harassment.*

I would have, for this awful piece,
poetic licence tendered,
except that by the taste police
it has now been suspended.

* British pronunciation, with emphasis on the first syllable

[Captain Occam]

All right, I guess I'll go ahead and post my own. This will probably be funniest to people who remember Echigo mole (T-C-L) and his 200 or so sockpuppets.

Echigo mole is a curious creature:
Anger arises wherever he walks.
Footprints of rage are his notable feature,
Left by the steps of his dozens of socks.
Where did they come from, and how were they made,
So many they are and so proudly displayed,
In grandiose glee of his footwear parade,
Whenever and where opportunity knocks?

Astounding it is, you will never believe
That the socks were created quite far in advance.
And as a magician hides tricks in his sleeve,
So a mole hides his socks in the legs of his pants.
The socks are of vintage like bottles of wine,
To store and mature for his clever design:
To pull out a sock made in two thousand nine,
And spotlight a little-known alley in France.

He lurks in his lair of a big wooden box.
Its liftable lid contains more than one hole,
From which may emerge hands and feet bearing socks,
To fight for the crown of the world's greatest troll.
His trousers are naught to be sorry about,
The socks kept inside them are strong beyond doubt:
For Echigo knows that by pulling them out,
He causes old Tony to play whack-a-mole.

There are two specific socks referenced in this poem: I'm sorry about your trousers (T-C-L) and Silver starfish (T-C-L). Silver Starfish is an account he created in August 2009, and then put away for more than two years until he used it to create the Rue Cardinale article in 2012.

[Kumioko]

There are two specific socks referenced in this poem: I'm sorry about your trousers (T-C-L) and Silver starfish (T-C-L). Silver Starfish is an account he created in August 2009, and then put away for more than two years until he used it to create the Rue Cardinale article in 2012.

Wow, 2 years is a long time to hold on to a sock. I'm not familiar with that case so what did he do that tipped someone off that he was a returned banned editor? That's well beyond anything the checkuser can see so I can't help but wonder if this is one of those cases where someone says it looks and smells like a fish so it must be, when its actually just an innocent editor caught in the Witchhunt.

[Captain Occam]

Wow, 2 years is a long time to hold on to a sock. I'm not familiar with that case so what did he do that tipped someone off that he was a returned banned editor? That's well beyond anything the checkuser can see so I can't help but wonder if this is one of those cases where someone says it looks and smells like a fish so it must be, when its actually just an innocent editor caught in the Witchhunt.

Actually, now that I look more closely, Silver Starfish was never blocked. There are several accounts that Mathsci tagged as socks even though the SPI results came up negative, and that one's an example. In this case he did it against another editor's objections, as you can see from the editing history of Silver Starfish's user page.

I do think this account probably was Echigo mole, but I suppose it shouldn't be tagged as a sock if there was never enough proof to block it.

EDIT: For what it's worth, A. K. Nole (who probably is the same person as Echigo mole) also included the account on a list of some of his socks here.

[Kumioko]

Wow, 2 years is a long time to hold on to a sock. I'm not familiar with that case so what did he do that tipped someone off that he was a returned banned editor? That's well beyond anything the checkuser can see so I can't help but wonder if this is one of those cases where someone says it looks and smells like a fish so it must be, when its actually just an innocent editor caught in the Witchhunt.

Actually, now that I look more closely, Silver Starfish was never blocked. There are several accounts that Mathsci tagged as socks even though the SPI results came up negative, and that one's an example. In this case he did it against another editor's objections, as you can see from the editing history of Silver Starfish's user page.

I do think this account probably was Echigo mole, but I suppose it shouldn't be tagged as a sock if there was never enough proof to block it.

EDIT: For what it's worth, A. K. Nole (who probably is the same person as Echigo mole) also included the account on a list of some of his socks here.

Interesting, thanks for the clarification.

[Triptych]

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

Aargh! Hickory Dickory Dock is not a %$&ing limerick! It's a nursery rhyme.

[Zoloft]

Brad doesn't live out in Nantucket
nor does he reside in a bucket
when he visits us here
the reaction's severe
and as for the rhyming, it sucketh.

[Kumioko]

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

Aargh! Hickory Dickory Dock is not a %$&ing limerick! It's a nursery rhyme.

IMO, since the Arbcom is mostly children and often act like children, chiding them with a little nursery rhyme is both ironic and amusing. Here's to you Arbcomians!

[neved]

I started the thread for fun, and I am happy that now it's getting responses I hoped for, and that not everybody here is the grump :-)
Nice poems, everybody! Thanks for sharing.

[Randy from Boise]

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

Aargh! Hickory Dickory Dock is not a %$&ing limerick! It's a nursery rhyme.

A
A
B
B
A

Whatever.


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[Jim]

“You are old, Father Brad,” the young man did state,
“And your hair has become rather thin;
And yet you incessantly pontificate –
Do you care, at your age, if you win?”

“In my youth,” Father Brad replied to the mite,
“I feared it might injure the brain;
But, now that I’m perfectly sure I am right,
Why, I do it again and again.”

“You are old,” said the youth, “have I mentioned that yet?
And have grown most uncommonly fat;
Yet you twist legal nothings to fashion a "threat" –
Pray, what is the reason of that?”

“In my youth,” said the sage, as he polished his brow,
“I kept all my posturing mild,
Yet I find it is harder to stick to that now –
And I yearn for the faith of a child”

“You are old,” said the youth, “and your logic grows less
And people begin to see through it;
Why it doesn't abate, I can't see, I confess -
Pray how do you manage to do it?”

“In my youth,” said his father, “I took to the law,
And argued each case with my wife;
And the muscular strength, which it gave to my jaw,
Has lasted the rest of my life.”


Brad.

Meant in good humour.

[AndyTheGrump]

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

Aargh! Hickory Dickory Dock is not a %$&ing limerick! It's a nursery rhyme.

A
A
B
B
A

Whatever.


t

Archetypal Limerick template:

There once was an entity E
That satisfied predicate P.
It performed action A
In a specified way,
Resulting in circumstance C.

Brad's ditty doesn't quite conform.

[Anthonyhcole]

Mr Vigillant. Paging Mr Vigillant.

[Jim]

Archetypal Limerick template:

There once was an entity E
That satisfied predicate P.
It performed action A
In a specified way,
Resulting in circumstance C.

That's actually quite cool, and very well constructed.

It probably deserves to be in the article Limerick (poetry) (T-H-L), rather than just lingering, semi-ignored, on the talkpage, because, really, it just works as a succinct summary of a limerick's form.
It would add value to that article, I think, to include that.

But, y'know - OR/RS and all that...

[Kiefer.Wolfowitz]

I did enjoy Brad's limerick. The crooked mouse thing wasn't bad either. Maybe we should just make this a Wikipedia doggerel thread...

Aargh! Hickory Dickory Dock is not a %$&ing limerick! It's a nursery rhyme.

• A
  A
  B
  B
  A

Whatever.
t

Archetypal Limerick template:

• There once was an entity E
  That satisfied predicate P.
  It performed action A
  In a specified way,
  Resulting in circumstance C.

Brad's ditty doesn't quite conform.

Discussing the role of outside financing on megauniversities, Clark Kerr (T-H-L) quoted this limerick:

• "There was a young lady from Kent
  Who said that she knew what it meant
  When men took her to dine,
  Gave her cocktails and wine'
  She knew what it meant---but she went."

Quoted by Hal Draper (T-H-L)
http://www.fsm-a.org/FSM%20Documents/In ... ls/293.pdf
https://www.marxists.org/archive/draper ... 0/kerr.htm

[neved]

Archetypal Limerick template:

There once was an entity E
That satisfied predicate P.
It performed action A
In a specified way,
Resulting in circumstance C.

That's actually quite cool, and very well constructed.

It probably deserves to be in the article Limerick (poetry) (T-H-L), rather than just lingering, semi-ignored, on the talkpage, because, really, it just works as a succinct summary of a limerick's form.
It would add value to that article, I think, to include that.

But, y'know - OR/RS and all that...

Yes, I liked it too.
Now let me try


Brad said he was off for fun
But I am sure he would get none
Brad is sad, he's obsessed with the socks,
And all he could think of are blocks...
I hope you like my pun.

[Poetlister]

Aargh! Hickory Dickory Dock is not a %$&ing limerick! It's a nursery rhyme.

They're not exclusive categories. There are several limericks in the Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes.

[Triptych]

There once was an Arbcom buffoon
Yea, though compared among them no goon
So timid he quivered
And now and then shivered
As if he that whale Brad feared an harpoon

[AndyTheGrump]

Archetypal Limerick template:

There once was an entity E
That satisfied predicate P.
It performed action A
In a specified way,
Resulting in circumstance C.

That's actually quite cool, and very well constructed.

It probably deserves to be in the article Limerick (poetry) (T-H-L), rather than just lingering, semi-ignored, on the talkpage, because, really, it just works as a succinct summary of a limerick's form.
It would add value to that article, I think, to include that.

But, y'know - OR/RS and all that...

Yeah - unsourced, and added by an anonymous IP, sadly. I'm fairly sure I'd seen it somewhere else first, but a Google search only turns up the talk page.

[Jim]

Mr Vigillant. Paging Mr Vigillant.

Lack of vigilance
Broken poetry crying
Absence of Haiku

[Zoloft]

Archie Goodwin (T-H-L) wept.

[Notvelty]

There once was an Arbcom buffoon
Yea, though compared among them no goon
So timid he quivered
And now and then shivered
As if he that whale Brad feared an harpoon

There once was a guy with no rhythm,
Who thought that limericks kind of just needed to have something rhyme her with rhythm,
Be wasn't much good
At working out the.fourth line umm.. something 'ood
And then finished with something that was really forced and anyway didn't rhyme much with rhythm.

Look! I dun a Cosmic Lymerick.

[Jim]

Five syllables here
Should this be six, or seven?
How, now, to finish?

Haiku in English (T-H-L)

At its most minimal, haiku may occasionally consist of a single word:
tundra
Cor van den Heuvel (the window-washer's pail, 1963)
core
John Stevenson (Live Again, 2009)

radish

[Notvelty]

Five syllables here
Should this be six, or seven?
How, now, to finish?

Haiku in English (T-H-L)

At its most minimal, haiku may occasionally consist of a single word:
tundra
Cor van den Heuvel (the window-washer's pail, 1963)
core
John Stevenson (Live Again, 2009)

radish

Category: Single word haiku in Latvian.

[Jim]

Five syllables here
Should this be six, or seven?
How, now, to finish?

Haiku in English (T-H-L)

At its most minimal, haiku may occasionally consist of a single word:
tundra
Cor van den Heuvel (the window-washer's pail, 1963)
core
John Stevenson (Live Again, 2009)

radish

Category: Single word haiku in Latvian.

I still think we're missing a trick. The zero word haiku, where the art and skill of the poet is in which single word he omits.

[Notvelty]

Five syllables here
Should this be six, or seven?
How, now, to finish?

Haiku in English (T-H-L)

At its most minimal, haiku may occasionally consist of a single word:
tundra
Cor van den Heuvel (the window-washer's pail, 1963)
core
John Stevenson (Live Again, 2009)

radish

Category: Single word haiku in Latvian.

I still think we're missing a trick. The zero word haiku, where the art and skill of the poet is in which single word he omits.

I believe the Australia Council already gives grants for that.

[Jim]

And, because no poetry thread would be complete without it - my favourite "repeating word haiku" (with Greek subtitles - there's that Australia Council influence again...)

[Bielle]

And, because no poetry thread would be complete without it - my favourite "repeating word haiku" (with Greek subtitles - there's that Australia Council influence again...)

It is the Greek subtitles that are the making of this poem.

[Bielle]

Five syllables here
Should this be six, or seven?
How, now, to finish?

Haiku in English (T-H-L)

At its most minimal, haiku may occasionally consist of a single word:
tundra
Cor van den Heuvel (the window-washer's pail, 1963)
core
John Stevenson (Live Again, 2009)

radish

Category: Single word haiku in Latvian.

I still think we're missing a trick. The zero word haiku, where the art and skill of the poet is in which single word he omits.

I believe the Australia Council already gives grants for that.

And I seem to recall that the Canadian Arts Council has an annual award.

[HRIP7]

And, because no poetry thread would be complete without it - my favourite "repeating word haiku" (with Greek subtitles - there's that Australia Council influence again...)

It is the Greek subtitles that are the making of this poem.

[Newyorkbrad]

I see that the poetastry has been fecund
While I was away for the holiday weekend.
But this is a lousy excuse for a thread,
And the doggerel here would be better unread.

[Notvelty]

I see that the poetastry has been fecund
While I was away for the holiday weekend.
But this is a lousy excuse for a thread,
And the doggerel here would be better unread.

And thus was born the Wikipediocracy "Topaz" Award for poetry?