Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?

[Poetlister]

To refute the suggestion that there is no low-hanging fruit left, shall we try to suggest ideas for articles? If nothing else, this might reveal the sort of areas where Wikipedia coverage is deficient (i.e. everywhere except Pokemon, soccer and female porn stars). To kick off, someone I was most surprised not to find:

* William Busch, English composer


Edit: William Busch (T-H-L) - created 09:43, October 27, 2015‎ Cirt (started as draft in userspace user subpage.)

[thekohser]

While Wikipedia does have an article about Consumer economy (T-H-L), it is all of two sentences long. It deserves at least several paragraphs of treatment.

I'm not sure I want to really get into a process of showing Wikipedia where it still needs articles, when a good portion of that work is already addressed at Most wanted articles.

[Poetlister]

I'm not sure I want to really get into a process of showing Wikipedia where it still needs articles, when a good portion of that work is already addressed at Most wanted articles.

The list shows what Wikipedia editors think they want, such as "List of diplomatic missions in Christmas Island" (yes, really) and "List of ship decommissionings in 1914". I was thinking more of articles they ought to have. But I take the point that many people here don't want to see Wikipedia improved.

[The Joy]

We did it before on Wikipedia Review:

http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=24433

Someone actually did write Gottlob Espenlaub (T-H-L). I suppose I owe the article creator a diet coke. What!?! Silver Seren (T-C-L) created it!?! Well, there goes the neighborhood. I wonder if he read the WR thread?

I appreciate the references as I had trouble finding much about him. Somehow, though, the Wikipedia article still doesn't quite capture Gottlob's eccentricities and impact.

[TungstenCarbide]

To refute the suggestion that there is no low-hanging fruit left, shall we try to suggest ideas for articles? If nothing else, this might reveal the sort of areas where Wikipedia coverage is deficient (i.e. everywhere except Pokemon, soccer and female porn stars). To kick off, someone I was most surprised not to find:

* William Busch, English composer

The easiest place to find the low-hanging fruit -- just go hit the random article link. WP has millions of shitty articles.

[thekohser]

The list shows what Wikipedia editors think they want...

I knew what the list showed, but thanks for the pedantry.

Okay, I will play along.

Annaly Capital Management (T-H-L) is the sixth-fastest growing company in the Fortune 1000. Wikipedia has never bothered to create an article about it.

Superior Energy Services (T-H-L) is the seventh-fastest growing company in the Fortune 1000, and it will likely soon be in the Fortune 500. Wikipedia doesn't care.

Nexeo Solutions Holdings (T-H-L) is the eleventh-fastest growing company in the Fortune 1000, also on a potential quick track to the Fortune 500. No shit has been given by Wikipedia.

I could go on, but I grow weary.

[enwikibadscience]

I'm not sure I want to really get into a process of showing Wikipedia where it still needs articles, when a good portion of that work is already addressed at Most wanted articles.

The list shows what Wikipedia editors think they want, such as "List of diplomatic missions in Christmas Island" (yes, really) and "List of ship decommissionings in 1914". I was thinking more of articles they ought to have. But I take the point that many people here don't want to see Wikipedia improved.

Even if they get ideas, the articles will still be written by en.Wikipedia editors.

[enwikibadscience]

Bora Zivkovic

The fall of Pittsboro scientist and Scientific American blog editor Bora Zivkovic

Huffington Post

And, no, not the Serbian Dane football player, who is not actually a minor player.

[Poetlister]

To refute the suggestion that there is no low-hanging fruit left, shall we try to suggest ideas for articles? If nothing else, this might reveal the sort of areas where Wikipedia coverage is deficient (i.e. everywhere except Pokemon, soccer and female porn stars). To kick off, someone I was most surprised not to find:

* William Busch, English composer

The easiest place to find the low-hanging fruit -- just go hit the random article link. WP has millions of shitty articles.

I agree that a huge proportion of articles are pretty poor. I was looking for areas where there is no article at all. It is an inherent feature of crowdsourcing that there is no editorial board of experts to decide on what is or is not important. As a result, articles don't get created unless someone (usually not an expert) is motivated to create them.

[Ferahgo]

There are a number of paleontology-related subjects that need articles, most obviously notable paleontologists and paleontological artists, such as Mark Hallett (who is mentioned in the first sentence of the lede of the Paleoart article, yet somehow doesn't have his own article), Lanzendorf award-winner Michael Skrepnick, artist Larry Felder (whose most notable book has its own (terrible) article, but somehow he does not), and Raúl Martín, who has illustrated a great number of museum displays and books and is listed under the Paleoart article's list of "notable paleoartists".

Of course there are new genera being described all the time that need their own articles, but I'm not sure whether anyone is ever going to bother creating articles for some of these people whose careers have probably reached their height of notability already.

Incidentally, articles for all of these people and others were on my "do to" list before I got banned.

[Captain Occam]

There are a number of paleontology-related subjects that need articles, most obviously notable paleontologists and paleontological artists, such as Mark Hallett (who is mentioned in the first sentence of the lede of the Paleoart article, yet somehow doesn't have his own article), Lanzendorf award-winner Michael Skrepnick, artist Larry Felder (whose most notable book has its own (terrible) article, but somehow he does not), and Raúl Martín, who has illustrated a great number of museum displays and books and is listed under the Paleoart article's list of "notable paleoartists".

Of course there are new genera being described all the time that need their own articles, but I'm not sure whether anyone is ever going to bother creating articles for some of these people whose careers have probably reached their height of notability already.

Incidentally, articles for all of these people and others were on my "do to" list before I got banned.

You forgot one other paleontology-related topic that needs its own article: Wing-assisted incline running.

That's a hypothetical stage in the evolution of bird flight, based on a behavior used by modern baby birds before their wings are fully-developed. There are 295 results for it at Google Books, and 147 results for it at Google Scholar. But the only coverage it currently has at Wikipedia is a single paragraph in the Origin of birds (T-H-L) article.

[Ferahgo]

You forgot one other paleontology-related topic that needs its own article: Wing-assisted incline running.

That's a hypothetical stage in the evolution of bird flight, based on a behavior used by modern baby birds before their wings are fully-developed. There are 295 results for it at Google Books, and 147 results for it at Google Scholar. But the only coverage it currently has at Wikipedia is a single paragraph in the Origin of birds (T-H-L) article.

True, but considering the current state of WAIR, imagine the edit-warring that could ensue...

I've also noticed that Wikipedia is sorely lacking in articles on book publishers, which I discovered when trying to research different publishers for our book. Some examples include Inkwater Press and Time Life Medical.

[enwikibadscience]

There are a number of paleontology-related subjects that need articles, most obviously notable paleontologists and paleontological artists, such as Mark Hallett (who is mentioned in the first sentence of the lede of the Paleoart article, yet somehow doesn't have his own article), Lanzendorf award-winner Michael Skrepnick, artist Larry Felder (whose most notable book has its own (terrible) article, but somehow he does not), and Raúl Martín, who has illustrated a great number of museum displays and books and is listed under the Paleoart article's list of "notable paleoartists".

Of course there are new genera being described all the time that need their own articles, but I'm not sure whether anyone is ever going to bother creating articles for some of these people whose careers have probably reached their height of notability already.

Incidentally, articles for all of these people and others were on my "do to" list before I got banned.

You forgot one other paleontology-related topic that needs its own article: Wing-assisted incline running.

That's a hypothetical stage in the evolution of bird flight, based on a behavior used by modern baby birds before their wings are fully-developed. There are 295 results for it at Google Books, and 147 results for it at Google Scholar. But the only coverage it currently has at Wikipedia is a single paragraph in the Origin of birds (T-H-L) article.

Along those lines, hawking is all about birds, not one mention of bats. Although, since, according to User:Cwmhiraeth all bats ecolocate, not having an article on hawking in bats might make the encyclopedia better.

[enwikibadscience]

There are a number of paleontology-related subjects that need articles, most obviously notable paleontologists and paleontological artists, such as Mark Hallett (who is mentioned in the first sentence of the lede of the Paleoart article, yet somehow doesn't have his own article), Lanzendorf award-winner Michael Skrepnick, artist Larry Felder (whose most notable book has its own (terrible) article, but somehow he does not), and Raúl Martín, who has illustrated a great number of museum displays and books and is listed under the Paleoart article's list of "notable paleoartists".

Of course there are new genera being described all the time that need their own articles, but I'm not sure whether anyone is ever going to bother creating articles for some of these people whose careers have probably reached their height of notability already.

Incidentally, articles for all of these people and others were on my "do to" list before I got banned.

With all the editors banned for that article, you think it would have a single, well-developed, citable fact in it. It should be nuked or held up as an example of who is doing what on en.Wikipedia that should not be doing anything.

[DanMurphy]

There are a number of paleontology-related subjects that need articles, most obviously notable paleontologists and paleontological artists, such as Mark Hallett (who is mentioned in the first sentence of the lede of the Paleoart article, yet somehow doesn't have his own article), Lanzendorf award-winner Michael Skrepnick, artist Larry Felder (whose most notable book has its own (terrible) article, but somehow he does not), and Raúl Martín, who has illustrated a great number of museum displays and books and is listed under the Paleoart article's list of "notable paleoartists".

Of course there are new genera being described all the time that need their own articles, but I'm not sure whether anyone is ever going to bother creating articles for some of these people whose careers have probably reached their height of notability already.

Incidentally, articles for all of these people and others were on my "do to" list before I got banned.

You forgot one other paleontology-related topic that needs its own article: Wing-assisted incline running.

That's a hypothetical stage in the evolution of bird flight, based on a behavior used by modern baby birds before their wings are fully-developed. There are 295 results for it at Google Books, and 147 results for it at Google Scholar. But the only coverage it currently has at Wikipedia is a single paragraph in the Origin of birds (T-H-L) article.

Along those lines, hawking is all about birds, not one mention of bats. Although, since, according to User:Cwmhiraeth all bats ecolocate, not having an article on hawking in bats might make the encyclopedia better.

Ahh... I guess we know where that scamp Calvin has been.

[Ferahgo]

With all the editors banned for that article, you think it would have a single, well-developed, citable fact in it. It should be nuked or held up as an example of who is doing what on en.Wikipedia that should not be doing anything.

Can you clarify which article you're referring to? I don't know of anyone who's been banned for any paleoart or paleontology-related articles. If you mean the Paleoart article (which iirc I have never edited), it does need additional sources, but it is clearly a notable topic and should be improved rather than deleted.

Other paleontologists that need articles: Oliver Rauhut, Zhang Fucheng, Matt Wedel, Pascal Godefroit.

[enwikibadscience]

With all the editors banned for that article, you think it would have a single, well-developed, citable fact in it. It should be nuked or held up as an example of who is doing what on en.Wikipedia that should not be doing anything.

Can you clarify which article you're referring to? I don't know of anyone who's been banned for any paleoart or paleontology-related articles. If you mean the Paleoart article (which iirc I have never edited), it does need additional sources, but it is clearly a notable topic and should be improved rather than deleted.

Sorry, not much reading of the diffs; it seemed that a bunch of editors had been banned in relation to the Intelligence and race (T-H-L) article. That article's introduction is a coprolite of ancient, biased, and unsourcable information.

The paleo articles can be unreadably dense, but, other than Smith609's unreadable and inaccurate phrases of nothing, these seem to be scientifically okay.

[Captain Occam]

Sorry, not much reading of the diffs; it seemed that a bunch of editors had been banned in relation to the Intelligence and race (T-H-L) article. That article's introduction is a coprolite of ancient, biased, and unsourcable information.

That article's never been in particularly good condition, but it's a little less bad now than it's often been in the past. The current lead was written almost entirely by Maunus (T-C-L), who's less of a POV-pusher than a lot of the other people involved in it.

[Cla68]

I may be wrong, but it doesn't appear that we have a thread in which we list articles on notable topics that are missing from the English (or other languages) Wikipedia. I will start things off with:

Hiyoshidai tunnels.

[enwikibadscience]

I may be wrong, but it doesn't appear that we have a thread in which we list articles on notable topics that are missing from the English (or other languages) Wikipedia. I will start things off with:

Hiyoshidai tunnels.

Can we inlude articles that are so nonsensical and wrong as to not really exist?

[Poetlister]

I may be wrong, but it doesn't appear that we have a thread in which we list articles on notable topics that are missing from the English (or other languages) Wikipedia. I will start things off with:

Hiyoshidai tunnels.

I started this thread a couple of weeks ago:

wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3312

Can mods merge please?

[thekohser]

For purposes of WPO internal search effectiveness...

Missing articles

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[Randy from Boise]

For purposes of WPO internal search effectiveness...

Missing articles

Needed articles

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Oh, dropping keywords, are we?

Barack Obama

toothlessness

ostrich

Fernando Valenzuela

happy to help,

RfB

[EricBarbour]

Can mods merge please?

Done.

And if you're looking for missing articles, check the "List Of" article-things. Especially the ones dealing with science and technology, plenty of redlinks to go around. Even after years of scraper bots that are supposed to generate stubs, some things are just not interesting enough to the nerds.

List of Tipula species (T-H-L)


If you ever wanna start a massive editwar, start filling in the items in List of Other Backward Classes (T-H-L)
And if you enjoy having a headache, read ‎List of train songs (T-H-L). Or List of islands of Maine (T-H-L).

"All human knowledge", hah.

[enwikibadscience]

Can mods merge please?

Done.

And if you're looking for missing articles, check the "List Of" article-things. Especially the ones dealing with science and technology, plenty of redlinks to go around. Even after years of scraper bots that are supposed to generate stubs, some things are just not interesting enough to the nerds.

List of Tipula species (T-H-L)


If you ever wanna start a massive editwar, start filling in the items in List of Other Backward Classes (T-H-L)
And if you enjoy having a headache, read ‎List of train songs (T-H-L). Or List of islands of Maine (T-H-L).

"All human knowledge", hah.

Some of these flies may have no articles, other than the taxonomic new species article--perfect for DYK editors to make up science. And, we discussed flies earlier, en.Wikipedia editors have a hard time distinguishing between a fly and a mosquito.

Lol, Other Backward Classes, en.Wikipedia major caste articles are written with criminal intent.

[Hex]

Lol, Other Backward Classes, en.Wikipedia major caste articles are written with criminal intent.

Other Backward Classes is a formal designation invented by the Indian government, not Wikipedia.

[enwikibadscience]

Lol, Other Backward Classes, en.Wikipedia major caste articles are written with criminal intent.

Other Backward Classes is a formal designation invented by the Indian government, not Wikipedia.

I'm not laughing at the name, but rather the idea that an en.Wikipedia editor could get an article on one of them correct with the horror that passes for factual information in the major caste articles.

[Hex]

I'm not laughing at the name, but rather the idea that an en.Wikipedia editor could get an article on one of them correct with the horror that passes for factual information in the major caste articles.

Oh. Yeah, well, that whole area is messed up, big-time.

I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.

[SB_Johnny]

I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.

Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?

[thekohser]

Not a missing article, but certainly a "missing photograph"... there is no illustration of Cascade Falls (Jackson, Michigan) (T-H-L). Not on Wikipedia, not on Commons. It's a noteworthy regional attraction, with plenty of photos across the web, but no image to be found on Wikimedia sites.

[Mancunium]

I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.

Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?

I'm somewhat knowledgeable. The most objective studies of caste are those compiled by the Census of India: link. Wikipedia's article on the 1891_Census_of_India (T-H-L) is a good place to start basic research.

[EricBarbour]

Not a missing article, but certainly a "missing photograph"... there is no illustration of Cascade Falls (Jackson, Michigan) (T-H-L). Not on Wikipedia, not on Commons. It's a noteworthy regional attraction, with plenty of photos across the web, but no image to be found on Wikimedia sites.

Commons has tens of thousands of photos of British railways, hundreds of photos of celebrities, thousands of penises. Wikipedia has thousands of stubs of obscure places, but usually no photos thereof.

And Wikipedia has one photo of Stella Lake in Great Basin National Park, but no article about Stella Lake.

[SB_Johnny]

I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.

Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?

I'm somewhat knowledgeable. The most objective studies of caste are those compiled by the Census of India: link. Wikipedia's article on the 1891_Census_of_India (T-H-L) is a good place to start basic research.

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject?

(And wait... are you Hex?)

[Mancunium]

No (and no).

[Hex]

I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.

Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?

God no. I wouldn't write anything about it from personal knowledge, and it's contentious enough that I wouldn't try to add material to it from research, as I'm not qualified to perform research in that area at all. But I do think that I understand how to edit encyclopedia articles well enough to fix structural and grammatical errors and add hyperlinks (in unambiguous cases).

[enwikibadscience]

I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.

Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?

I'm somewhat knowledgeable. The most objective studies of caste are those compiled by the Census of India: link. Wikipedia's article on the 1891_Census_of_India (T-H-L) is a good place to start basic research.

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject?

(And wait... are you Hex?)

I have written articles on an obscure area of the topic; paid, but not well. An encyclopedia article on the topic requires a higher level of expertise, but so few Westerners have any basic knowledge on the caste system that while I might not hire me, someone else might.

But, I am not Hex.

[thekohser]

Another missing article (not so much "missing", but "slaughtered due to paid editing") is Graffiti4Hire (T-H-L). One of the rare instances of Silver seren "losing" on Wikipedia.

[Triptych]

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject? (And wait... are you Hex?)

No (and no).

Next question, an hypothetical: It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

[DanMurphy]

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject? (And wait... are you Hex?)

No (and no).

Next question, an hypothetical: It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Too easy:

[Bielle]

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject? (And wait... are you Hex?)

No (and no).

Next question, an hypothetical: It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Too easy:

Now I know I don't have to see that movie.

Me, I say "thank you" and, as surreptitiously as possible, try to see if there are any bills of significant denomination in it. As Canada's highest-value bill is only $100 (all the better to thwart the drug dealers, my dear), there would have to be a lot to be interesting.

[Mancunium]

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject? (And wait... are you Hex?)

No (and no).

Next question, an hypothetical: It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Too easy:

Now I know I don't have to see that movie.

Me, I say "thank you" and, as surreptitiously as possible, try to see if there are any bills of significant denomination in it. billsCanada's highest-value bill is only $100 (all the better to thwart the drug dealers, my dear), there would have to be a lot to be interesting.

Canada stopped printing $1000 bills about ten years ago, but they are still legal tender, and at least a million of them are still in circulation.







It is traditional to give an envelope stuffed with $1000 bills to Canadian politicians, many of whom have safety deposit boxes filled with "pinkies".

[Bielle]

Right, but would you hire you to write an encyclopedia article on the subject? (And wait... are you Hex?)

No (and no).

Next question, an hypothetical: It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Too easy:

Now I know I don't have to see that movie.

Me, I say "thank you" and, as surreptitiously as possible, try to see if there are any bills of significant denomination in it. As Canada's highest-value bill is only $100 (all the better to thwart the drug dealers, my dear), there would have to be a lot to be interesting.

Canada stopped printing $1000 bills about ten years ago, but they are still legal tender, and at least a million of them are still in circulation.

<snip>

It is traditional to give an envelope stuffed with $1000 bills to Canadian politicians, many of whom have safety deposit boxes filled with "pinkies".

I've never heard them called "pinkies". Where did you learn about the envelopes stuffed with 1,000-dollar bills? The 50-dollar bill is now very pink.

[Mancunium]

The hunt for Canada’s $1,000 bills: There are nearly a million left, most in the hands of criminal elites
National Post, 16 November 2012 link

More than 10 years after the $1,000 bill disappeared from circulation 946,043 of them are still out there, somewhere. The whereabouts of almost $1-billion worth of the banknotes is a mystery rekindled this month at Quebec’s corruption probe when a witness spoke of a safe over-stuffed with cash, including $1,000 notes, inside a political office. Retired on May 12, 2000, for being mostly used in criminal transactions, any $1,000 note deposited at a bank is destroyed, although the bills — nicknamed “pinkies” by gangsters because of the pinkish-purple ink — remain legal tender.

[Cla68]

Edwin A. Shuman III

[Poetlister]

Arthur Vogel, not to be confused with Arthur Vogel (T-H-L) or even Arthur A. Vogel (T-H-L).

[Cla68]

Eagle Nest Sink/Lost Sink

[Hex]

Eagle Nest Sink/Lost Sink

Wow.

[Cla68]

Eagle Nest Sink/Lost Sink

Wow.

There are several hundred caves listed on that website. It is likely that quite a few of them don't have a WP article.

[Poetlister]

There are several hundred caves listed on that website. It is likely that quite a few of them don't have a WP article.

That's getting into the "every bus stop in Pittsburgh" school of editing. How many of these caves are actually notable individually?

[Cla68]

There are several hundred caves listed on that website. It is likely that quite a few of them don't have a WP article.

That's getting into the "every bus stop in Pittsburgh" school of editing. How many of these caves are actually notable individually?

Well, it depends on your perspective. Divers or cave explorers probably think more of them are notable than people who are not involved in those activities. Because those caves are filled with water, most are apparently not exploited for tourism. In fact, many of those caves appear to be purposefully isolated to keep people away from them because of how dangerous they are. Thus, they only make the news when someone dies in one.