Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:47 am

Cla68 wrote:
Poetlister wrote:
Cla68 wrote:There are several hundred caves listed on that website. It is likely that quite a few of them don't have a WP article.
That's getting into the "every bus stop in Pittsburgh" school of editing. How many of these caves are actually notable individually?
Well, it depends on your perspective. Divers or cave explorers probably think more of them are notable than people who are not involved in those activities. Because those caves are filled with water, most are apparently not exploited for tourism. In fact, many of those caves appear to be purposefully isolated to keep people away from them because of how dangerous they are. Thus, they only make the news when someone dies in one.

Or when someone writes a gripping book about them.
The Longest Cave

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:15 am

Michiko Yamaoka- Hiroshima A-bomb survivor activist
Kohei Nakabo- Japanese litigator

Hex · Unread post by **Hex** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:57 pm

Zoloft wrote: Or when someone writes a gripping book about them.
The Longest Cave

"...the stories of many others who worked their way through mud-choked crawlways less than a foot high only to find impenetrable blockages."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

Sorry, something of a personal horror there. Carry on!

The Joy · Unread post by **The Joy** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:45 pm

Hex wrote:
Zoloft wrote: Or when someone writes a gripping book about them.
The Longest Cave
"...the stories of many others who worked their way through mud-choked crawlways less than a foot high only to find impenetrable blockages."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

Sorry, something of a personal horror there. Carry on!

Yes, I read that sentence first and thought we were on the "Worst sentences" topic and talking about colonoscopies.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:34 pm

John Pullinger

http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and- ... rd/dg-dis/

Honoured in the 2014 New Year's Honours with a CB.

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:16 pm

Dr. Robert Neuwirth

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:47 pm

Since 2012 there's been an ongoing stink in the sports world over Chris Kluwe supporting gay-marriage rights, and apparently losing his job with the Minnesota Vikings because of it. Let his Deadspin post explain it.

You will note that Chris Kluwe (T-H-L) and Brendon Ayanbadejo (T-H-L) mention this controversy only in passing, at the bottom of each article. The reason for Kluwe's "dis-employment" with the Vikings is not mentioned. Emmett C. Burns, Jr. (T-H-L) also mentions it, at the bottom. (I can see why he's not seeking re-election, he's not exactly the best guy for public office.)

The men who supposedly fired Kluwe?

Leslie Frazier (T-H-L) just says "On December 30, 2013, Frazier was fired as the Vikings Head Coach after a 5-10-1 season.[6]" Not a word about the Kluwe scandal.

Rick Spielman (T-H-L) is rather short for the general manager of an NFL franchise, and also says nothing about Kluwe.

And Mike Priefer, the "bigot"? He has no Wikipedia article at all, despite being mentioned in passing in a number of NFL-related articles.

References about Priefer in "reliable sources", for your amusement:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... an-priefer
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-cowards/
http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/02/chris-kluw ... a-vikings/
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/chris-k ... e-priefer/
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikin ... 91071.html
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/24 ... e-equality

How's that?

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:42 am

Here's one that Wikipedia keeps mentioning in other articles, but has no article for;
Educational Credit Management Corporation.

http://boingboing.net/2014/01/03/meet-e ... anage.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/02/us/lo ... ation&_r=0
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-1 ... loans.html
And various other items, including a number of lawsuits.

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:12 pm

George Jacobs

You guys are doing a good job at finding items that are missing articles in WP.

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:20 pm

Cla68 wrote:You guys are doing a good job at finding items that are missing articles in WP.

And WP is doing a shit job of creating them.....

Kelly Martin · Unread post by **Kelly Martin** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:21 pm

Hex wrote:
SB_Johnny wrote:
Hex wrote:I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.
Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?
God no. I wouldn't write anything about it from personal knowledge, and it's contentious enough that I wouldn't try to add material to it from research, as I'm not qualified to perform research in that area at all. But I do think that I understand how to edit encyclopedia articles well enough to fix structural and grammatical errors and add hyperlinks (in unambiguous cases).

But why would you want to polish a turd? When you take a pastiche of barely true (and sometimes flatly false) claims and weave them together into a pretty-looking whole, you're creating a polished turd. You have no idea if your finished product conveys truth in any way, and yet you feel good about this? What's wrong with you?

enwikibadscience · Unread post by **enwikibadscience** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:17 pm

Kelly Martin wrote:
Hex wrote:
SB_Johnny wrote:
Hex wrote:I made my contribution to it just now by rearranging the beginning of Other Backwards Class (T-H-L) to hopefully not be a crazy quilt of factlets stitched together at random, but that's probably as far as I'm going to involve myself with it.
Do you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable person regarding this topic?
God no. I wouldn't write anything about it from personal knowledge, and it's contentious enough that I wouldn't try to add material to it from research, as I'm not qualified to perform research in that area at all. But I do think that I understand how to edit encyclopedia articles well enough to fix structural and grammatical errors and add hyperlinks (in unambiguous cases).
But why would you want to polish a turd? When you take a pastiche of barely true (and sometimes flatly false) claims and weave them together into a pretty-looking whole, you're creating a polished turd. You have no idea if your finished product conveys truth in any way, and yet you feel good about this? What's wrong with you?

This is what the science editors don't understand, they want me to edit and teach them. But they are producing crap, and I don't want to polish their turds to make them look better. I want them to look like the turds they are.

It is also what I did not understand when I tried to edit the desert article.

Hex · Unread post by **Hex** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:19 pm

Kelly Martin wrote:What's wrong with you?

If you think you can pop up and take that tone and expect to get a considered response then you've got another think coming. Fuck off.

*plonk*

Kelly Martin · Unread post by **Kelly Martin** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:21 pm

Hex wrote:
Kelly Martin wrote:What's wrong with you?
If you think you can pop up and take that tone and expect to get a considered response then you've got another think coming. Fuck off.

*plonk*

Aw, you're cute.

Hex · Unread post by **Hex** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:22 pm

"You cannot add administrators and moderators to your foes list."

Looks like I'll just ignore you as a class-A prat manually.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:30 pm

Why Kelly, what makes you so blue these days?

The Joy · Unread post by **The Joy** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:48 pm

Vigilant wrote:Why Kelly, what makes you so blue these days?

She is a Trustee now.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:58 pm

The Joy wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Why Kelly, what makes you so blue these days?
She is a Trustee now.

Is that a promotion or a demotion?

Kelly Martin · Unread post by **Kelly Martin** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:06 am

The Joy wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Why Kelly, what makes you so blue these days?
She is a Trustee now.

I've always been a trustee here. That's not a change.

enwikibadscience · Unread post by **enwikibadscience** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:44 am

Vigilant wrote:
The Joy wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Why Kelly, what makes you so blue these days?
She is a Trustee now.
Is that a promotion or a demotion?

Good question. Mine changes, too, and I never know, promoted, banned, foed, hailed, spat upon?

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:45 am

Kelly Martin wrote:
The Joy wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Why Kelly, what makes you so blue these days?
She is a Trustee now.
I've always been a trustee here. That's not a change.

Correct. When I added the two new Trustees (who were moved from Global Moderator status), Kelly Martin (who is in both Global Moderator and Trustee groups) changed color to blue because her default group changed to Trustee.

*having dropped this nigh-incomprehensible glob of tech talk, Zoloft disappears into the darkness from whence he came*

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:31 pm

Zoloft wrote:When I added the two new Trustees (who were moved from Global Moderator status), Kelly Martin (who is in both Global Moderator and Trustee groups) changed color to blue because her default group changed to Trustee.

Might make sense to have a list of trustees clearly visible, as it's not that easy to generate a list.

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:27 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Zoloft wrote:When I added the two new Trustees (who were moved from Global Moderator status), Kelly Martin (who is in both Global Moderator and Trustee groups) changed color to blue because her default group changed to Trustee.
Might make sense to have a list of trustees clearly visible, as it's not that easy to generate a list.

Administrators, Global Moderators, and Trustee lists are linked at the bottom of the forum front page.

mac · Unread post by **mac** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:10 pm

Kelly Martin wrote:Aw, you're cute.

He sure is.

The Joy · Unread post by **The Joy** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:10 am

I saw a documentary about Alexander Gettler (T-H-L), one of the major founders of modern toxicology and forensic science in the United States. His article may as well not exist. It's practically a glorified stub.

enwikibadscience · Unread post by **enwikibadscience** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:13 am

The Joy wrote:I saw a documentary about Alexander Gettler (T-H-L), one of the major founders of modern toxicology and forensic science in the United States. His article may as well not exist. It's practically a glorified stub.

Same for Charles Norris (medical examiner) (T-H-L).

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:18 am

Here's a rather big, gloriously corrupt gap:

Tim Giardina (T-H-L)

From this article: link

Vice Adm. Giardina assumed duties as deputy commander of United States Strategic Command in December 2011.

Giardina is a 1979 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy. He is a graduate of CAPSTONE, PINNACLE, and numerous Navy business and joint warfighting courses, and holds an advanced degree in Business Administration.

He most recently served as deputy commander and chief of staff, United States Pacific Fleet. His most recent command assignment was as commander, Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group Nine, and Submarine Group 10 where he was responsible for all 18 U.S. Trident Submarines.

Hey! Number Two Nuke Guy.

Glorious career, until back in June of last year... link

The deputy commander of US nuclear forces, Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, was notified Wednesday that he has been relieved of duty amid a military investigation of allegations that he used counterfeit chips at an Iowa casino, the Navy said.

Lots of coverage, lots of places to get bio info, free photos from the U. S. Navy. Easy Good Article or even Featured Article, simple DYK.

There is no article at all.

Why?

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:11 pm

Look through National Semiconductor (T-H-L). A large number of the founders and major figures in that seminal Silicon Valley firm do not have Wikipedia bios.

Especially not their longtime and "colorful" CEO, Charlie Sporck. There's also no bio of businessman Peter Sprague. (There is one of a jazz guitarist by that name, which belongs in the paid-editing thread.) Most of the principals of Intel have their own WP bios, but not National.

Peter Sprague, Pierre Lamond and the affectionately called Charlie Sporck worked hand-in-hand,

is quite funny, if you know anything at all about Sporck. "Affection" is probably not a word his employees would use.

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:07 pm

There is absolutely nothing on Wikipedia about a California organization called "Students Matter", nor about its founder, businessman David Welch.

Have some references.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/educa ... ation&_r=1
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... z2s72PSR9T
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... ed-lawsuit
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/edu ... story.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... 28668.html

There IS a massive article about Welch's company, Infinera (T-H-L). Written almost entirely in the past week, by a single editor, Alistairdavidson (T-C-L). Who has done little else on Wikipedia. (Yes, he appears to be a paid editor.)

Mancunium · Unread post by **Mancunium** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:30 pm

That picture in the Head
The Hindu, 31 January 2014 link

Try to Google Anuvab Pal and you only end up learning about his work; nothing about the man, not even a Wikipedia page. [...] "I am not an individual who likes to be at the forefront of my work. What interests me more is how to get into a world I picture in my head and bring it alive. In fact, as an individual you might find me extremely boring,” confesses Anuvab, who likes to call himself a “writer of drama”. It is this persona of a writer that has lent itself to his versatility as a playwright, screenwriter, author, stand-up comic, columnist, formerly a business journalist and more recently, an actor.

His journey into the limelight began with a brief period of unemployment when he had just quit his job with Reuters in the U.S., which coincided with a time when Indian fiction was gaining popularity there — Jhumpa Lahiri had successfully published her first novel, Mira Nair’s movies were doing well and Salman Rushdie was a star. This conducive literary environment coupled with a persistent urge to write and an unrestricted access to time and imagination resulted in his first piece of fiction — Chaos Theory — a play about two Indian professors in the U.S. that is about “30 Years of Shakespeare, verbal duels, jokes, alcohol. And the imperfect physics of love.” It has been adapted into 250 successful stage productions and is the first Indian play to be The Finalist at The BBC World Playwriting Competition 2007. Its success led to it being adapted into a book (incidentally his fourth after “The President Is Coming”, which was adapted into a movie); “1 888 Dial India” and a non-fiction book on “Disco Dancer”. Anuvab also co-wrote the satirical drama/comedy “Loins of Punjab Presents” with director Manish Acharya. [...]

Doesn’t he dread being tagged a funny guy? “What people say doesn’t really affect me because when I create something I always think from the perspective of the character – what he/she would think, say and do. And me as an individual disappears. I am uncomfortable being an individual in public space. I enjoy my work being known; in fact, I am happy when people know my work and not who is behind it. It is perhaps why I do not have a Wikipedia page…”

Anuvab Pal: "Where is my BLP?"

thekohser · Unread post by **thekohser** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:01 pm

I am surprised there is no article (yet) about David Shing (T-H-L) of AOL. He seems to be exactly the type of biography that wiki-nerds would have crafted long ago.

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:39 am

F. League (T-H-L)

Of the 10 teams in Japan's professional futsal league, only four have articles in en.WP.

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:06 am

Most of the incredibly-stupid "reality shows" on the Bravo cable channel have Wikipedia articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:B ... ion_series

But not their current biggest hit, Watch What Happens Live.
Type that name into Wikipedia search, and you are directed to the biography of WWHL's host Andy Cohen.

Hold your nose and have some "references".
http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainment/ ... 202820.php
http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/bravos- ... 2-seasons/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... wed-655616
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Watch-Happe ... 77224.aspx
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... pens-live/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... pens-live/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... ne-leakes/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... pens-live/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... s-boozing/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... s-atlanta/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... pens-live/
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/01/31/full- ... est-video/
http://www.vulture.com/2013/12/see-mari ... -live.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/1 ... 86289.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2057880/
https://www.facebook.com/WatchWhatHappensLive

Yes, WWHL is stupid celebrity-tattle. But we are constantly told that Wikipedia is "all human knowledge".

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:18 am

Laem Chabang Port in Thailand. There is a short, crappy article on the city: Laem Chabang (T-H-L), but not on the port itself. This port is Thailand's biggest and most important commercial harbor and one of the 20 biggest commercial ports in the world. Also, it's about to undergo a major expansion along the lines of Colombo's port.

If I understand correctly, Singapore and Dubai were the only ports in South Asia that could handle the largest container ships for transshipment of cargo containers for the rest of the region, including India. So, if Laem Chabang attains the capability (and Colombo already has, beginning in August of last year) it could represent a major shift in economic power among the South Asian nations since the majority of international trade in/from the region is by ship. Wikipedia, however, doesn't appear to have much coverage of this topic at all.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:59 pm

Professor Natalie Shlomo easily passes WP:PROF and would help with the female articles balance.

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:10 am

Kunming terror attack. If this had happened in a western country, India, or Singapore, there would already be an article started on it. Because it happened in China, so far WP editors are ignoring it.

darkweasel94 · Unread post by **darkweasel94** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:14 am

Cla68 wrote:Kunming terror attack. If this had happened in a western country, India, or Singapore, there would already be an article started on it. Because it happened in China, so far WP editors are ignoring it.

Is that so?

Kunming station massacre (T-H-L)

Cla68 · Unread post by **Cla68** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:53 am

darkweasel94 wrote:
Cla68 wrote:Kunming terror attack. If this had happened in a western country, India, or Singapore, there would already be an article started on it. Because it happened in China, so far WP editors are ignoring it.
Is that so?

Kunming station massacre (T-H-L)

OK, thank you, created 14 hours ago. It didn't show up when I searched for it.

Peryglus · Unread post by **Peryglus** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:14 am

Cla68 wrote:
darkweasel94 wrote:
Cla68 wrote:Kunming terror attack. If this had happened in a western country, India, or Singapore, there would already be an article started on it. Because it happened in China, so far WP editors are ignoring it.
Is that so?

Kunming station massacre (T-H-L)
OK, thank you, created 14 hours ago. It didn't show up when I searched for it.

And it's on ITN right now, so somebody worked fast on that.

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:23 am

It is interesting that there are no real persons named Jeremy Duncan (T-H-L) on Wikipedia (that article redirects to Zits (T-H-L), an American newspaper comic strip featuring a teenager named Jeremy Duncan).

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:59 am

Johnny Au wrote:It is interesting that there are no real persons named Jeremy Duncan (T-H-L) on Wikipedia (that article redirects to Zits (T-H-L), an American newspaper comic strip featuring a teenager named Jeremy Duncan).

Well, I have a catalog from 2010 of Jeremy Duncan's realistic paintings of building exteriors and fire escapes. Lovely work, and he's prominent...

Johnny Au · Unread post by **Johnny Au** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:18 am

Zoloft wrote:
Johnny Au wrote:It is interesting that there are no real persons named Jeremy Duncan (T-H-L) on Wikipedia (that article redirects to Zits (T-H-L), an American newspaper comic strip featuring a teenager named Jeremy Duncan).
Well, I have a catalog from 2010 of Jeremy Duncan's realistic paintings of building exteriors and fire escapes. Lovely work, and he's prominent...

Someone should start up the painter Jeremy Duncan article and not have Jeremy Duncan be linked to that lame newspaper comic strip that features a teenager named Jeremy Duncan and the premises are anything but realistic (though the earlier strips were realistic).

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:08 am

Johnny Au wrote:
Zoloft wrote:
Johnny Au wrote:It is interesting that there are no real persons named Jeremy Duncan (T-H-L) on Wikipedia (that article redirects to Zits (T-H-L), an American newspaper comic strip featuring a teenager named Jeremy Duncan).
Well, I have a catalog from 2010 of Jeremy Duncan's realistic paintings of building exteriors and fire escapes. Lovely work, and he's prominent...
Someone should start up the painter Jeremy Duncan article and not have Jeremy Duncan be linked to that lame newspaper comic strip that features a teenager named Jeremy Duncan and the premises are anything but realistic (though the earlier strips were realistic).

Somebody should.

EricBarbour · Unread post by **EricBarbour** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:11 am

If it is "all human knowledge", then why does Wikipedia not mention an 1890s hotel apparatus called the "Teleseme"?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/20 ... otels.html
http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4044083.html
http://ehotelier.com/hospitality-news/i ... 3_0_11_0_C
http://www.famoushotels.org/article/1004
http://www.retronaut.com/2014/03/the-herzog-teleseme/

Hex · Unread post by **Hex** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:10 pm

EricBarbour wrote:If it is "all human knowledge", then why does Wikipedia not mention an 1890s hotel apparatus called the "Teleseme"?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/20 ... otels.html

"[A] small display that featured a numbered compartment for each room, in which a platinum disc was suspended in a liquid.... [A]n electrode connected to the room’s compartment dispersed a current that caused the disc to discolor, alerting the attendant as to which room number required attention."

That is amazing. Great find, Eric.

thekohser · Unread post by **thekohser** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:41 pm

I wonder how the people of East Texas feel about the Yamboree (T-H-L) article being deleted in December 2013. It's one of the longest-running annual community festivals in Texas, since 1935. Even though it attracts perhaps 100,000 people per year, and though it garners 2,120 hits in news archives, admin Ronhjones decided it had no indication of notability. Suck it, Gilmer, Texas.

Hex · Unread post by **Hex** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:40 pm

thekohser wrote:I wonder how the people of East Texas feel about the Yamboree (T-H-L) article being deleted in December 2013. It's one of the longest-running annual community festivals in Texas, since 1935. Even though it attracts perhaps 100,000 people per year, and though it garners 2,120 hits in news archives, admin Ronhjones decided it had no indication of notability. Suck it, Gilmer, Texas.

Ronhjones was only blindly following in the footsteps of OlYeller21 (T-C-L), who tagged it in the first place.

And now... behold, magic!

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:26 pm

Who's IP 173.87.171.188? Friend of yours?

thekohser · Unread post by **thekohser** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:49 pm

Hex wrote:And now... behold, magic!

I dare you to practice such magic on Graffiti4hire (T-H-L).

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:16 pm

thekohser wrote:
Hex wrote:And now... behold, magic!
I dare you to practice such magic on Graffiti4hire (T-H-L).

That's different; the other one was a Prod delete; this is an AfD delete.