Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?

[Poetlister]

Katherine or Catherine Dyer (died 1654) is possibly the earliest English poetess we know much about. She is best known for her poem "My dearest dust", an epitaph on her husband.

[Poetlister]

There is a shortage of articles about notable Sikhs. For example, there is no article on S S Marway, who was mayor of the London Borough of Newham (and I think is still on the borough council) so is certainly notable.

[Captain Occam]

Glenn Morton (T-H-L): American geophysicist and ex-creation scientist, who in the 1990s abandoned creationism and became a prominent critic of it. He was the person who coined the term Morton's demon, and also is well-known for his autobiographical account of his transformation from a creation scientist to a critic of creationism.

If I'm eventually unblocked, I was thinking of possibly creating this article myself. But I have a potential COI for this individual, having previously collaborated with him on a book criticizing the creationist movement, so maybe it's better for someone else to create it.

[Captain Occam]

In Defense of Looting (T-H-L) - Recent book by Vicky Osterweil, that's been receiving a large amount of media attention because of its endorsement of the violence currently engulfing American cities. A few examples of this book's coverage:

• National Public Radio
• Huffington Post
• New York Times
• Washington Post (just one paragraph in this article, but enough to be used as a source)
• Wall Street Journal
• National Review
• Newsweek
• The Spectator
• Commentary magazine
• Times of India

This coverage is ongoing, so there will probably be more of it by tomorrow.

[Poetlister]

Louis Woolf is a biochemist who easily passes WP:PROF. Surely he is far more worthy of an article than Louis Woolf (T-H-L), who "played one first-class cricket match for Victoria in 1878".

Sagepub

MDPI

NIH

APHI

[Poetlister]

International_Statistical_Institute#Presidents_of_ISI (T-H-L)

Obviously, all of these presidents pass WP:PROF. Of the 36 presidents, 15 do not have articles; five are redlinks and 10 are not even linked. (The article says that there have only been 33 presidents, but then lists all 36! )

[Zoloft]

Peter Hug (T-H-L), one of the top people in precious metal trading, passed away last week.

No article.

His Kitco bio: link

[Bezdomni]

His colleagues definitely seemed to like him. That's always notable.

Wikidata had nothing. He's neither the once-global-head of Roche Pharma Partnering, nor the "Leftist" historian writing on Swiss war gold metals (§) that pop up as author-strings (but not as entities). So, I've added an unspoiled (instance of human) item just for you! Well no, actually, for this apparently well-liked gold trader.

This may well make it harder to find what the "Leftist" historian wrote on Swiss war gold metals.

[Moral Hazard]

International_Statistical_Institute#Presidents_of_ISI (T-H-L)

Obviously, all of these presidents pass WP:PROF. Of the 36 presidents, 15 do not have articles; five are redlinks and 10 are not even linked. (The article says that there have only been 33 presidents, but then lists all 36! )

I blame sexism!

[Poetlister]

International_Statistical_Institute#Presidents_of_ISI (T-H-L)

Obviously, all of these presidents pass WP:PROF. Of the 36 presidents, 15 do not have articles; five are redlinks and 10 are not even linked. (The article says that there have only been 33 presidents, but then lists all 36! )

I blame sexism!

Someone's corrected the 33 to 36. I'm not sure when the next president, Stephen Penneck, takes over, but he has no article yet although I'd say he passes WP:PROF even without holding that presidency.

[Poetlister]

Here's a test for notability requirements. Delphi Primrose has no article, although she seems to pass WP:GNG; see for example Tatler, Daily Mail and Sunday Mail. (She also comes from a highly notable family, but of course that doesn't count.) But should she have an article?

[Poetlister]

Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society (T-H-L): Eight recipients are redlinked, although surely they all pass WP:PROF (T-H-L): "The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level."

[Poetlister]

Someone's corrected the 33 to 36. I'm not sure when the next president, Stephen Penneck, takes over, but he has no article yet although I'd say he passes WP:PROF even without holding that presidency.

Update: Stephen Penneck took over as president on 1st July so the list needs updating.

[owl be it]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_birds

[owl be it]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_fishes

[thekohser]

I'm confused how there isn't a Wikipedia biography about Anthony Guglielmi (T-H-L), former spokesperson for the Chicago Police Department, during the Jussie Smollett affair, and now spokesperson for the United States Secret Service, tasked with the job of explaining how phone records just disappeared in late January 2021.

[The Blue Newt]

Hays Watkins.

[owl be it]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_birds

Still a redlink.

[tarantino]

I'm a bit surprised that no wikipedian has tried to create a bio on Catarina Orduña Pérez.

NSFW, obviously.
This Grandma’s Dying Wish Was a Giant Dick on Her Grave

The grave of 99-year-old Catarina Orduña Pérez is now topped with a huge penis and testicles weighing nearly 600 pounds.

Twitter video on the erection of the edifice.

[The Blue Newt]

Phillip Wearne (T-H-L).

[The Blue Newt]

John E. Stannard (T-H-L)

[The Blue Newt]

Karen Loveland Adey (T-H-L).

( Walter Adey (T-H-L) is every bit as worthy, but he’s male, and alive, which lower his odds.)

[tarantino]

Kat Taylor

Meet Billionaire Politician Tom Steyer's Wife, A Pioneering Impact Investor On A Mission To Spend $1 Billion Righting Society’s Wrongs

[owl be it]

Stupid cats (T-H-L)

[tarantino]

Travis Bacon, son of Kevin Bacon (T-H-L) and Kyra Sedgwick (T-H-L). He's been a member of the metal band Black_Anvil (T-H-L) since 2016.

Oddly, The infoboxes for Kyra and Kevin both mention they have 2 children "including Sosie Bacon (T-H-L)" but don't name him.

Edit to add: heh, the bio for Sosie Bacon was created by The Devil's Advocate in 2009.

[The Blue Newt]

George M. Smerk (T-H-L) (who has recently died, God damn it all, leaving the world a stupider place.)

Come to think of it, Edson L. Tennyson (T-H-L) is missing as well, by the look of it. That explains a lot about Wiki’s execrable coverage of American mass transit.

[Elinruby]

Lol, Other Backward Classes, en.Wikipedia major caste articles are written with criminal intent.

Other Backward Classes is a formal designation invented by the Indian government, not Wikipedia.

I'm not laughing at the name, but rather the idea that an en.Wikipedia editor could get an article on one of them correct with the horror that passes for factual information in the major caste articles.

I once innocently ventured into that topic area with the intention of doing a copyedit, and was told that a big part of the problem was the overwhelming wrongness of British colonial classifications, ie that accuracy was impossible when using that list as a frame of reference.

[AndyTheGrump]

Lol, Other Backward Classes, en.Wikipedia major caste articles are written with criminal intent.

Other Backward Classes is a formal designation invented by the Indian government, not Wikipedia.

I'm not laughing at the name, but rather the idea that an en.Wikipedia editor could get an article on one of them correct with the horror that passes for factual information in the major caste articles.

I once innocently ventured into that topic area with the intention of doing a copyedit, and was told that a big part of the problem was the overwhelming wrongness of British colonial classifications, ie that accuracy was impossible when using that list as a frame of reference.

The Indian caste system, as it currently stands, is to a significant extent a product of the Raj. It was politically and economically expedient to take a fluid, loosely-defined and contested concept from Indian culture and encode it into a rigid hierarchy. 'Accuracy' thus depends almost entirely on what you are trying to describe.

[Elinruby]

Lol, Other Backward Classes, en.Wikipedia major caste articles are written with criminal intent.

Other Backward Classes is a formal designation invented by the Indian government, not Wikipedia.

I'm not laughing at the name, but rather the idea that an en.Wikipedia editor could get an article on one of them correct with the horror that passes for factual information in the major caste articles.

I once innocently ventured into that topic area with the intention of doing a copyedit, and was told that a big part of the problem was the overwhelming wrongness of British colonial classifications, ie that accuracy was impossible when using that list as a frame of reference.

The Indian caste system, as it currently stands, is to a significant extent a product of the Raj. It was politically and economically expedient to take a fluid, loosely-defined and contested concept from Indian culture and encode it into a rigid hierarchy. 'Accuracy' thus depends almost entirely on what you are trying to describe.

I decided that the scope of the topic exceeded both my knowledge and my interest and time available to learn it. No edit wars ensued but I can definitely see the potential there. As I recall, the other editor's comments were in answer to questions about Reddys and Hill Reddys being in different sections of the list. Calling the list irreconcilable with reality seems a fair assessment, as the British have done divide-and-conquer elsewhere. Probably that list should be used in discussions of the Raj only, as opposed to an attempt to explain caste. As an aside, I think it was the Portuguese who had the expression "for the English to see", although on the completely different topic of the Atlantic slave trade, so they had about the same opinion of British colonialist certitudes.

[Elinruby]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

[AndyTheGrump]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

List of Discworld characters#Gaspode (T-H-L)

As much as I admire Pratchett's work, I'd have to suggest that said mutt probably doesn't merit a separate article. I can't see much evidence of in-depth independent coverage, beyond the usual fancruft.

[The Blue Newt]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

Despite my regard for the denizens of the Disk, I think this is a good thing. Not everything needs its own separate article.

Tree breeders apparently select for crabapples that retain their fruit; birds eat it in place, but it doesn’t drop all over the sidewalk. Wiki could learn from that.

[Elinruby]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

List of Discworld characters#Gaspode (T-H-L)

As much as I admire Pratchett's work, I'd have to suggest that said mutt probably doesn't merit a separate article. I can't see much evidence of in-depth independent coverage, beyond the usual fancruft.

Probably much of the enormous outpouring of pixels over Ankh-Morpork is fancruft. But he's at least as notable as the various dwarf policemen named Stronginthearm, I'm just saying. I don't usually edit such articles, are they all like this?

[AndyTheGrump]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

List of Discworld characters#Gaspode (T-H-L)

As much as I admire Pratchett's work, I'd have to suggest that said mutt probably doesn't merit a separate article. I can't see much evidence of in-depth independent coverage, beyond the usual fancruft.

Probably much of the enormous outpouring of pixels over Ankh-Morpork is fancruft. But he's at least as notable as the various dwarf policemen named Stronginthearm, I'm just saying. I don't usually edit such articles, are they all like this?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

As for how Wikipedia defines notability, and how it deals with characters from fiction, I'd sum it up with two words: inconsistently, and abysmally. If exceptions can be found, they are far far from the norm. Otherwise, it's fancruft all the way down...

[The Blue Newt]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

List of Discworld characters#Gaspode (T-H-L)

As much as I admire Pratchett's work, I'd have to suggest that said mutt probably doesn't merit a separate article. I can't see much evidence of in-depth independent coverage, beyond the usual fancruft.

Probably much of the enormous outpouring of pixels over Ankh-Morpork is fancruft. But he's at least as notable as the various dwarf policemen named Stronginthearm, I'm just saying. I don't usually edit such articles, are they all like this?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

As for how Wikipedia defines notability, and how it deals with characters from fiction, I'd sum it up with two words: inconsistently, and abysmally. If exceptions can be found, they are far far from the norm. Otherwise, it's fancruft all the way down...

I wonder if they have a Bertrand Russell’s Turtles (T-H-L) article.

[Giraffe Stapler]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

I think this is a very good way of looking at notability of fictional things. If you have a spare minute, see if you can get Wikipedia to adopt it.

[AndyTheGrump]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

I think this is a very good way of looking at notability of fictional things. If you have a spare minute, see if you can get Wikipedia to adopt it.

I've got bigger windmills to tilt at...

[FelinaLavandula]

I think this is a very good way of looking at notability of fictional things.

Exactly why it’ll never happen

[rnu]

I wonder if they have a Bertrand Russell’s Turtles (T-H-L) article.

No stand-alone article yet. They're covered in Turtles all the way down (T-H-L). Terry Pratchett's Discworld is mentioned, too.

[Elinruby]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

I think this is a very good way of looking at notability of fictional things. If you have a spare minute, see if you can get Wikipedia to adopt it.

I agree.

[Elinruby]

Gaspode the dog (Ankh-Morpork) does not have an article

List of Discworld characters#Gaspode (T-H-L)

As much as I admire Pratchett's work, I'd have to suggest that said mutt probably doesn't merit a separate article. I can't see much evidence of in-depth independent coverage, beyond the usual fancruft.

Probably much of the enormous outpouring of pixels over Ankh-Morpork is fancruft. But he's at least as notable as the various dwarf policemen named Stronginthearm, I'm just saying. I don't usually edit such articles, are they all like this?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

As for how Wikipedia defines notability, and how it deals with characters from fiction, I'd sum it up with two words: inconsistently, and abysmally. If exceptions can be found, they are far far from the norm. Otherwise, it's fancruft all the way down...

that's a much better answer than my snark deserved, but I'm just saying that other things exist: Snowy (character) (T-H-L). Just to be difficult, mind you. That is indeed a pretty good rule of thumb. Getting back to Discworld, though, I'm a fan and I that's more than I want to know.

[Elinruby]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that actual independent notability (in the normal sense of the word, not Wikipedia's) of characters from fiction is best seen as almost entirely contingent on said character 'leaking out' from the works in which they are found: e.g. when they become part of normal discourse as reference points, independent of their origins. Unless and until that happens, they have no meaningful existence beyond the works within which they are represented.

Don Quixote the hidalgo is thus 'notable', beyond Cervantes's novel, as a metaphor and/or a stereotype, known even to those who've never read the book. You could probably say something along the same lines concerning Homer Simpson. But Gaspode? I doubt it. The talking dog has yet to escape the confines of Pratchett's book and the confines of his readership, and roam free, as far as I can tell.

I think this is a very good way of looking at notability of fictional things. If you have a spare minute, see if you can get Wikipedia to adopt it.

John Snow. Scooby doo?

[Elinruby]

A serious suggestion: Tres Fronteras (T-H-L) sort of exists already but needs to be fleshed out to explain the effect of Bolsonaro's laissez-faire regulatory policies, in the form of deforestation and mercury contamination of the water supply from gold mining, on the Yanomami, the Amazon and climate change, I managed to at least mention some of these things in the article, but there is a bigger story that Wikipedia isn't covering.

The Guardian has been all over this since one of their reporters (Murder of Bruno Pereira and Dom Phillips (T-H-L)) was killed, so there is coverage there of what is essentially a lawless territory where people are getting rich smuggling cocaine out to the Caribbean and in other ways draining the area of its national resources to pump up the coffers of the cartels, Peruvian guerrillas, and Brazilian prison gangs that the Brazilian military tried to evict. Odds of a coordinated three-way response are pretty minimal. Most coverage is still in Spanish and Portuguese though.

not sure if this is "low-hanging fruit" by local standards though

[The Blue Newt]

Kati Kelley. Kitty Kelley, yeah, Wiki’s got that.

Might say something about Wiki.

[The Blue Newt]

Yeah, it’s got Tradeshift (T-H-L), but does it have Christian Lanng (T-H-L)?

[Zoloft]

It's odd to me that John Beug doesn't have an article.

John Beug, Trailblazing Music documentary and video producer

JOHN BEUG,
1947-2022
John Beug, a trailblazing music documentary and video producer, died on 10/15 in Northern California. He was 75.

A former exec at Ode Records and Warner Bros. Records, he produced the Grammy-winning documentaries The Doors: When You’re Strange and Tom Petty: Runnin’ Down a Dream; the Concert for George [Harrison] and a concert film of Cream at the Royal Albert Hall; and classic music videos like a-ha’s “Take On Me,” Peter Gabriel’s “Sledgehammer” and R.E.M.’s “Losing My Religion.” His most recent film was Travelin Band: Creedence Clearwater Revival at the Royal Albert Hall, which premiered this year.

After booking shows at Northwestern University and Chicago-area venues, Beug started working for Lou Adler and was involved in the building of The Roxy and the production of early shows at the famed Sunset Strip club, including Cheech & Chong’s Up in Smoke and The Rocky Horror Show.

In 1986 Mo Ostin hired him as head of creative services for Warner Bros., where he oversaw award-winning videos and led the company’s dive into long-form DVD releases, including projects with Eric Clapton, Steely Dan and Don Henley. He was the executive in charge of production on two of Warner’s biggest videos: Fleetwood Mac’s The Dance and Eagles: Hell Freezes Over.

Beug won an Emmy for 2007’s Eric Clapton: Crossroads Guitar Festival, Chicago. He retired from Warner Music Group in 2014.

[The Blue Newt]

Cherry & Webb (T-H-L). Shows up in quite a few articles, mostly related to their media holdings, which wasn’t their core business.

[Elinruby]

Jenina/Janina Palace is a red link and seems ancient and important enough to deserve one. Dar Aziza (T-H-L) has an article but seems to be a subset of the palace complex.

(Later) Also just found Djenina as a spelling. I suspect the topic needs an Arabic speaker. French Wikipedia is pretty dismissive of Algerian culture

[C&B]

French Wikipedia is pretty dismissive of Algerian culture

Algerian War (T-H-L)....

Long shadows.

[owl be it]

Stupid cats (T-H-L)

Still a redlink, amazingly. Even though it's a well-known fact that stupid cats is a cats that is stupid!