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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:41 pm

Given his level of involvment with Russavia, ANI, AE and Jimbo, I think he deserves his own thread here.

Here's our bright boy going 5RR on an IP that he's apparently chatting on IRC with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Co ... /Gwickwire
02:10, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-76)‎ . . m User talk:98.199.22.41 ‎ (Reverted edits by 98.199.22.41 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
02:10, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-76)‎ . . m User talk:98.199.22.41 ‎ (Reverted edits by 98.199.22.41 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
02:07, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-76)‎ . . m User talk:98.199.22.41 ‎ (Reverted edits by 98.199.22.41 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
02:07, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-76)‎ . . m User talk:98.199.22.41 ‎ (Reverted edits by 98.199.22.41 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
01:56, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-76)‎ . . m User talk:98.199.22.41 ‎ (Reverted edits by 98.199.22.41 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
Any admins gonna have a talk with him?
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by greybeard » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:15 pm

Meh. Everyone knows that blocked IPs and blocked/banned sockpuppeteers have no rights on Wikipedia. I have no idea what Serafin (T-C-L) did to earn the original ban in 2007, but part of Gwickwire's reward for being a Wikipidiot is getting to kick the lower lifeforms.

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Unread post by mac » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:20 pm

I am unable to log IRC at the moment. It could be interesting to see some of the chats.

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Unread post by Hex » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:21 pm

And then...
16:52, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 ‎(Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
16:51, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 ‎(Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
16:49, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 (Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
16:47, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 ‎(Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
AUTHORITAH!

I've given him a warning. I don't expect it to do much.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Volunteer Marek » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:22 pm

greybeard wrote:Meh. Everyone knows that blocked IPs and blocked/banned sockpuppeteers have no rights on Wikipedia. I have no idea what Serafin (T-C-L) did to earn the original ban in 2007, but part of Gwickwire's reward for being a Wikipidiot is getting to kick the lower lifeforms.
Serafin was part of that whole initial edit war on Copernicus about his nationality, along with Helga Jonat and couple other crazies. He's the one who was putting in "Copernicus was a Polish astronomer!" into the article for like five years running with all kinds of different sock puppets, getting reverted by Helga, Matthead and some other editors now banned. Matthead hunted his sockpuppets (which was ridiculously easy) for a long time, until he got topic banned himself. I do agree that the Copernicus nationality section is crap but this guy's a bit unhinged and he's not exactly helping matters.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:44 pm

Hex wrote:And then...


Quote:
16:52, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 ‎(Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
16:51, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 ‎(Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
16:49, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 (Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)
16:47, 16 April 2013 (diff | hist) (-120)‎ m User talk:207.112.105.233 ‎(Reverted edits by 207.112.105.233 (talk) to last version by Gwickwire)



AUTHORITAH!

I've given him a warning. I don't expect it to do much.
And he spit in your face. Quel surprise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550661935
:Please stop that. You know as well as I do that there were multiple administrators who were reverting until an uninvolved one blocked talkpage access. These kinds of frivolous warnings are rude and without merit. [[User:gwickwire|<span style="color:#3D0376">gwickwire</span>]]<span style="position:absolute"><sup>[[user talk:gwickwire|talk]]</sup></span><sub>[[special:contributions/gwickwire|editing]]</sub> 17:11, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd expect after two sets of 3RR on a mouthy shit who taunts people on their talk pages (see bloomex, et al) that he'd get blocked for a week.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:47 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550657532
Just so you know, you have no rights on Wikipedia other than the [[WP:RTV|right to vanish]] and [[WP:FORK|right to fork]]. You have no right to "express yourself" on your talkpage. [[User:gwickwire|<span style="color:#3D0376">gwickwire</span>]]<span style="position:absolute"><sup>[[user talk:gwickwire|talk]]</sup></span><sub>[[special:contributions/gwickwire|editing]]</sub> 15:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
What a dick!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550659256
Latest revision as of 16:23, 16 April 2013 (edit) (undo)
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by mac » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:26 pm

Damn, I'd love to be logging #wikipedia-en right now. :(

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:58 pm

mac wrote:Damn, I'd love to be logging #wikipedia-en right now. :(
GW (perfect alignment of the stars for him to have those initials) has his own little demesne at ##gwickwire.

It's interesting that everytime he does something, it's officious and nasty.
It's an interesting artifact of the amount of time he's on IRC that's he's not indeffed by now for all the gravedancing, incivility and 3RR violations in the last few weeks.
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Unread post by roger_pearse » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:22 pm

Just so you know, you have no rights on Wikipedia other than the WP:RTV|right to vanish and WP:FORK|right to fork. You have no right to "express yourself" on your talkpage. User:gwickwire...
He could have written: "Hey, at the moment the only things your account can do on Wiki is WP:RTV(...) and WP:FORK(...). The talk page block is a pain I agree. Sorry about that. Talk to (whoever) to get your account able to contribute again. Best wishes, ..."

That would mean the same, but would be nice, welcoming, encouraging, etc: all the things that a sane volunteer project wants to be.

Why be gratuitously rude?

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Unread post by Poetlister » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:31 pm

Volunteer Marek wrote:Serafin was part of that whole initial edit war on Copernicus about his nationality, along with Helga Jonat and couple other crazies. He's the one who was putting in "Copernicus was a Polish astronomer!" into the article for like five years running with all kinds of different sock puppets, getting reverted by Helga, Matthead and some other editors now banned. Matthead hunted his sockpuppets (which was ridiculously easy) for a long time, until he got topic banned himself. I do agree that the Copernicus nationality section is crap but this guy's a bit unhinged and he's not exactly helping matters.
See how much better than Britannica Wikipedia is? Britannica just says that he was Polish.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by mac » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:52 pm

roger_pearse wrote: Why be gratuitously rude?
To fit in.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Bielle » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:59 pm

mac wrote:
roger_pearse wrote: Why be gratuitously rude?
To fit in.
:applause:

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by greybeard » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:14 pm

mac wrote:
roger_pearse wrote: Why be gratuitously rude?
To fit in.
I do think it is more than that, as I said above, part of the raison d'etre for a certain class of Wikipidiot is to "kick the lower lifeforms", by which I mean construct a small part of the Wiki-world in which one appears powerful and respected. This is the Napolean complex (T-H-L) of Wikipedia. People who are not powerful or respected in the real world -- because they are children, because they are disabled or ill, because they are ugly, stupid, and/or weak, or for whatever reason -- will seek out imaginary environments in which they can, in some small way, be in control.

This plays out at multiple levels in Wikipedia. At the top of the heap is Jimbo, a small man who is also not very tall. He told stories about his stock-trading acumen that appear to have been less than true. He started a porn company through which he could be seen with buxom women. Now through Wikipedia he can play the role of a master of the digital universe, provided he relegates Larry Sanger and others to the background.

Go down a level. Remember Cool Hand Luke (T-C-L) (aka Frank Bednarz)? He was a wiki-wheel running around avenging the wiki, playing pretend wiki-lawyer on Arbcom and so forth -- until he graduated from law school and got a job as a real lawyer. Now he is seldom on Wikipedia, or uses his "power" there. Similarly with Newyorkbrad (T-C-L) (Ira Matetsky). Brad/Ira is admitted to the New York and Federal Bars, yet since he joined his current firm (as a litigator) in 2004, his presence in the federal case registry has been remarkably light. Perhaps he keeps in legal "shape" by playing the role of Supreme Court Justice on Wikipedia.

Go down another level and you have your random power-pushing admins, too many to mention individually.

And at the lowest level you have Wikipidiots like GWickwire, with little or no real power or influence on the wiki (or in real life, most likely), who are reduced to the wiki equivalent of kicking the dog. I don't think they do it to "fit in" (though "all the big kids are doing it" is a tried and tested excuse for bad behaviour) so much as simply because they can.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by HRIP7 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:12 am

greybeard wrote:
mac wrote:
roger_pearse wrote: Why be gratuitously rude?
To fit in.
I do think it is more than that, as I said above, part of the raison d'etre for a certain class of Wikipidiot is to "kick the lower lifeforms", by which I mean construct a small part of the Wiki-world in which one appears powerful and respected. This is the Napolean Complex (T-H-L) of Wikipedia. People who are not powerful or respected in the real world -- because they are children, because they are disabled or ill, because they are ugly, stupid, and/or weak, or for whatever reason -- will seek out imaginary environments in which they can, in some small way, be in control.

This plays out at multiple levels in Wikipedia. At the top of the heap is Jimbo, a small man who is also not very tall. He told stories about his stock-trading acumen that appear to have been less than true. He started a porn company through which he could be seen with buxom women. Now through Wikipedia he can play the role of a master of the digital universe, provided he relegated Larry Sanger and others to the background.

Go down a level. Remember Cool Hand Luke (T-C-L) (aka Frank Bednarz)? He was a wiki-wheel running around avenging the wiki, playing pretend wiki-lawyer on Arbcom and so forth -- until he graduated from law school and got a job as a real lawyer. Now he is seldom on Wikipedia, or uses his "power" there. Similarly with Newyorkbrad (T-C-L) (Ira Matetsky). Brad/Ira is admitted to the New York and Federal Bars, yet since he joined his current firm (as a litigator) in 2004, his presence in the federal case registry has been remarkably light. Perhaps he keeps in legal "shape" by playing the role of Supreme Court Justice on Wikipedia.

Go down another level and you have your random power-pushing admins, too many to mention individually.

And at the lowest level you have Wikipidiots like GWickwire, with little or no real power or influence on the wiki (or in real life, most likely), who are reduced to the wiki equivalent of kicking the dog. I don't think they do it to "fit in" (though "all the big kids are doing it" is a tried and tested excuse for bad behaviour) so much as simply because they can.
Quite so. It's another underappreciated factor that attracts people to Wikipedia, I guess: the fact that you can talk the hind legs of an expert* and undo their work, and if they tell you you don't know what you're talking about, you can have them blocked for incivility. As long as you can learn a relatively simple set of rules, you can come out on top.

So we have:

– Wikipedia as a vanity publisher
– Wikipedia as a megaphone
– Wikipedia as a social leveller/elevator

Sue Gardner referred to this in one of her recent interviews, saying how very young people can come to positions of real influence in Wikipedia. She thought it was a good thing.

* Or a celebrity trying to edit their own article, etc.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by The Devil's Advocate » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:49 am

greybeard wrote:I do think it is more than that, as I said above, part of the raison d'etre for a certain class of Wikipidiot is to "kick the lower lifeforms", by which I mean construct a small part of the Wiki-world in which one appears powerful and respected. This is the Napolean Complex (T-H-L) of Wikipedia. People who are not powerful or respected in the real world -- because they are children, because they are disabled or ill, because they are ugly, stupid, and/or weak, or for whatever reason -- will seek out imaginary environments in which they can, in some small way, be in control.

This plays out at multiple levels in Wikipedia. At the top of the heap is Jimbo, a small man who is also not very tall. He told stories about his stock-trading acumen that appear to have been less than true. He started a porn company through which he could be seen with buxom women. Now through Wikipedia he can play the role of a master of the digital universe, provided he relegates Larry Sanger and others to the background.

Go down a level. Remember Cool Hand Luke (T-C-L) (aka Frank Bednarz)? He was a wiki-wheel running around avenging the wiki, playing pretend wiki-lawyer on Arbcom and so forth -- until he graduated from law school and got a job as a real lawyer. Now he is seldom on Wikipedia, or uses his "power" there. Similarly with Newyorkbrad (T-C-L) (Ira Matetsky). Brad/Ira is admitted to the New York and Federal Bars, yet since he joined his current firm (as a litigator) in 2004, his presence in the federal case registry has been remarkably light. Perhaps he keeps in legal "shape" by playing the role of Supreme Court Justice on Wikipedia.

Go down another level and you have your random power-pushing admins, too many to mention individually.

And at the lowest level you have Wikipidiots like GWickwire, with little or no real power or influence on the wiki (or in real life, most likely), who are reduced to the wiki equivalent of kicking the dog. I don't think they do it to "fit in" (though "all the big kids are doing it" is a tried and tested excuse for bad behaviour) so much as simply because they can.
Not all admins are above all non-admins, however. You do have power users who have developed considerable immunity to most admin actions and actually have admins as followers.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:18 am

The Devil's Advocate wrote:
greybeard wrote:I do think it is more than that, as I said above, part of the raison d'etre for a certain class of Wikipidiot is to "kick the lower lifeforms", by which I mean construct a small part of the Wiki-world in which one appears powerful and respected. This is the Napolean Complex (T-H-L) of Wikipedia. People who are not powerful or respected in the real world -- because they are children, because they are disabled or ill, because they are ugly, stupid, and/or weak, or for whatever reason -- will seek out imaginary environments in which they can, in some small way, be in control.

This plays out at multiple levels in Wikipedia. At the top of the heap is Jimbo, a small man who is also not very tall. He told stories about his stock-trading acumen that appear to have been less than true. He started a porn company through which he could be seen with buxom women. Now through Wikipedia he can play the role of a master of the digital universe, provided he relegates Larry Sanger and others to the background.

Go down a level. Remember Cool Hand Luke (T-C-L) (aka Frank Bednarz)? He was a wiki-wheel running around avenging the wiki, playing pretend wiki-lawyer on Arbcom and so forth -- until he graduated from law school and got a job as a real lawyer. Now he is seldom on Wikipedia, or uses his "power" there. Similarly with Newyorkbrad (T-C-L) (Ira Matetsky). Brad/Ira is admitted to the New York and Federal Bars, yet since he joined his current firm (as a litigator) in 2004, his presence in the federal case registry has been remarkably light. Perhaps he keeps in legal "shape" by playing the role of Supreme Court Justice on Wikipedia.

Go down another level and you have your random power-pushing admins, too many to mention individually.

And at the lowest level you have Wikipidiots like GWickwire, with little or no real power or influence on the wiki (or in real life, most likely), who are reduced to the wiki equivalent of kicking the dog. I don't think they do it to "fit in" (though "all the big kids are doing it" is a tried and tested excuse for bad behaviour) so much as simply because they can.
Not all admins are above all non-admins, however. You do have power users who have developed considerable immunity to most admin actions and actually have admins as followers.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by EricBarbour » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:11 am

greybeard wrote:This is the Napolean Complex (T-H-L)
Now it's my turn to correct spelling.
Napoleon complex (T-H-L)

And Young Mr. Wickwire is a fine example.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Anroth » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:11 am

I am still of the opinion Gwick is a sockmaster with a higher profile sock. Too many inconsistancies.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Moonage Daydream » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:31 pm

EricBarbour wrote:And Young Mr. Wickwire is a fine example.
Surely you mean young Mr Gwickwire? I thought we agreed that we weren't going to out gwickwire because of his (or her) age?

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by greybeard » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:53 pm

EricBarbour wrote:
greybeard wrote:This is the Napolean Complex (T-H-L)
Now it's my turn to correct spelling.
Napoleon complex (T-H-L)
Grrr. Trust Wikipedia to be indifferent to initial capitalization but sensitive to internal capitalization. Thanks for the catch. Corrected in my original post.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by dogbiscuit » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:57 pm

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EricBarbour wrote:And Young Mr. Wickwire is a fine example.
Surely you mean young Mr Gwickwire? I thought we agreed that we weren't going to out gwickwire because of his (or her) age?
I would say that because we know that he is a young person, and young people make mistakes that should not hang around their necks we should be careful only to comment on his inappropriate activities on Wikipedia, and avoid the temptation to stray into bullying or inappropriate comment on personal issues. However, it is unfortunately the case that he is a poster boy for the inadequacies of Wikipedia governance.

Thanks for the reminder and folks, remember that if you are concerned, you only need press the report post button and the mods will do their best to come to a reasonable position. With young people, I would rather we erred on the side of caution, even if they are extremely annoying!
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Unread post by Hex » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:31 pm

Moonage Daydream wrote: Surely you mean young Mr Gwickwire? I thought we agreed that we weren't going to out gwickwire because of his (or her) age?
Vigilant already partially did that with the title of this thread, which I would hope the mods also attend to (as well as where it's been copied on each post, unfortunately).
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Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:10 pm

Hex wrote:
Moonage Daydream wrote: Surely you mean young Mr Gwickwire? I thought we agreed that we weren't going to out gwickwire because of his (or her) age?
Vigilant already partially did that with the title of this thread, which I would hope the mods also attend to (as well as where it's been copied on each post, unfortunately).
How come every time someone mentions my handle it's to do with something naughty?

I have to disagree with Anroth on the sockpuppet accusation.
I've dug into his background fairly far and looked at when he edits and from where.

His disappearance from WP for the period of 4/8-4/14 corresponds with an event that his other information reveals he attended.

He's just what he appears to be: A mouthy punk trying to impress the bigger bullies with his machismo.

I loved this part
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550703707
I'm really not interested any more, I've tried to help gwickwire, but he's instead on a path to self destruction. I've got more important things to worry about. [[User:Worm That Turned]]
Dissed and dismissed by a sitting arbcom member as not worth their time to try and save.
Will young GWickwire take the hint or double down?
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by lilburne » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:29 pm

Moonage Daydream wrote:
EricBarbour wrote:And Young Mr. Wickwire is a fine example.
Surely you mean young Mr Gwickwire? I thought we agreed that we weren't going to out gwickwire because of his (or her) age?
Yeah but youth ought to remember, that we are getting old and sometimes forget.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:02 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550804747
Cheeky little bastard.

Someone should take him to ANI for badgering people/IPs on their talk pages in a rude and condescending manner.
It's not like he hasn't had more than a few warnings.

He reminds me of Ottava Rima, albeit at a lower volume of posts.
Same strident tone.

"Explain yourself" to MEeeeEEEeee.

Here's the link to the ARBCOM case GW is crowing about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... g_User:Hex

He's such a prat.
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The Devil's Advocate wrote:Not all admins are above all non-admins, however. You do have power users who have developed considerable immunity to most admin actions and actually have admins as followers.
Quite true. I can recall two occasions when I witnessed an admin being lynched by a mob that included no admins, and when he tried to defend himself he was told off for acting while being an involved admin. In both cases, the admin was probably in the right.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by EricBarbour » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:00 pm

Outsider wrote:I can recall two occasions when I witnessed an admin being lynched by a mob that included no admins, and when he tried to defend himself he was told off for acting while being an involved admin. In both cases, the admin was probably in the right.
Linky please?

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Re: GWickwire

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Vigilant wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550804747
Cheeky little bastard.
Rolled back without reading. I have better things to do than listen to shrill noises emitted by some horrid little goblin.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Kiefer.Wolfowitz » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:12 am

Hex wrote:
Vigilant wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =550804747
Cheeky little bastard.
Rolled back without reading. I have better things to do than listen to shrill noises emitted by some horrid little goblin.
Automatic Strikeout retired again, just as he did last time, with personal attacks right before the retirement sign.

I asked him to name the editors driven away by renegades, before he left.

Demiurge1000 hatted my comment, after several had responded to it, and then a GWickwire and two other members of the Automatic Strikeout circle-jerk edit warred to keep it hatted.

And now I'm warned by Nick (?) and reported to 3RR.

Now an indefinite block by Nicky

Despite his friendship with Automatic Strikeout, Ryan Vesey shows more backbone at WP:3RRNB.

Very strange: Somebody revertdeleted a bunch of edits on my talk page. This Black-Ops stuff is new to me. Can anybody explain?
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by HRIP7 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:22 am

Classic Wikipedia:
Does anyone know who oversighted 3 versions of that page? I am not sure why it was done. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 00:50, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Nick did it because Kiefer was harrassing Gwickwire. TCN7JM 00:52, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Harassment that went to the point of WP:OUTING. I'd ask that we refrain from making further comments on that (Streissand effect and all) and remember to use editors full usernames with no modifications if there's some resemblance to a real name potentially. gwickwiretalkediting 00:53, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

How do we know he was if it's been oversighted? Malleus Fatuorum 00:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

He was. [I am not sure if you believe my word, but even if you don't, there is enough evidence of his behaviour in his warnings et al] TheOriginalSoni (talk) 00:58, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

You may be quite certain that I don't. Malleus Fatuorum 01:02, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Gwickwire, change your freaking username if you're going to call it outing if someone modifies it, sheesh. Ryan Vesey 01:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm under no obligation to do so, but I probably will sometime soon. They still deliberately separated it to out me and harass me. gwickwiretalkediting 01:03, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

We need a stipulation in WP:OUTING that if morons people reveal who they are, they have outed themselves and can't accuse anyone of outing. Should I go around screaming WP:OUTING every time someone calls me Ryan Vesey. Ryan Vesey 01:06, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Calling gwickwire a moron is a personal attack, Ryan. Why is it all of these discussion turn out to be so hostile? TCN7JM 01:10, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You make it obvious your username is a name (real or not, doesn't matter). I have mine in all lowercase wherever possible, and there are multiple explanations (a play on the superhero Quickwire using the common q-g switch in slang today) that would explain my username. Therefore it isn't obvious, nor outing myself. Calling me a moron is a personal attack, albeit a minor one. Please strike that now. gwickwiretalkediting 01:12, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Guys. Stop. Please. This subpart of the thread is a non-issue and must be hatted immediately. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

If your name is a play on the superhero Quickwire, stop complaining about outing when someone misspells your name. Ryan Vesey 01:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by EricBarbour » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:41 am

HRIP7 wrote:Classic Wikipedia:
Where'd you see that?

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by tarantino » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:02 am

Kiefer.Wolfowitz wrote: And now I'm warned by Nick (?) and reported to 3RR.

Now an indefinite block by Nicky
That would be Mr. Nicholas Birse of Dundee, Scotland.

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Unread post by Zoloft » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:47 am

Let me get this straight... this guy has been wandering around using his real name on Wikipedia, and when someone capitalizes his first initial, and puts a space after it, that's somehow outing?
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Unread post by cyofee » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:50 am

Wikipedia: Where FLastname gets to complain about his real name being revealed...
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by TungstenCarbide » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:11 am

Zoloft wrote:Let me get this straight... this guy has been wandering around using his real name on Wikipedia, and when someone capitalizes his first initial, and puts a space after it, that's somehow outing?
:lmao:
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by HRIP7 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:21 am

EricBarbour wrote:
HRIP7 wrote:Classic Wikipedia:
Where'd you see that?
Here (the discussion is closed now; the part I quoted is hatted).

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Re: GWickwire

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From gwickwire's talk page:
Hmmm. Is "G. Wickwire" the new <http://wikipediocracy.com>? Good grief. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Randy from Boise » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:51 am

K-Wolf, you need to post an explicit demand on your talk page that this evil little Texan weasel keep the hell off it.

I honestly can't wait until his inevitable RFA run.... It'll be the most hilarious WP political event of the year...


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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by HRIP7 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:59 am

Moonage Daydream wrote:From gwickwire's talk page:
Hmmm. Is "G. Wickwire" the new <http://wikipediocracy.com>? Good grief. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I would like to echo the sentiments of King of Hearts about [[WP:POINT]]. Kiefer, you must know that continuing to post on AutomaticStrikeout's talk page is considered a violation of our harassment policy, specifically [[WP:HUSH]]. If one asks you not to post on the talk page, you are required to listen to their warnings. Unfortunately, if you do post on their talk page after being asked not to, or make pointy remarks directed at other users, you may end up being blocked again. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 04:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
:facepalm: And they wonder why they have a problem retaining new editors? Any normal person sees dialogue like that, they decide they've entered the twilight zone and back away slowly ... without turning round until they're well clear.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by The Devil's Advocate » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:16 am

Zoloft wrote:Let me get this straight... this guy has been wandering around using his real name on Wikipedia, and when someone capitalizes his first initial, and puts a space after it, that's somehow outing?
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by EricBarbour » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:29 am

HRIP7 wrote: :facepalm: And they wonder why they have a problem retaining new editors? Any normal person sees dialogue like that, they decide they've entered the twilight zone and back away slowly ... without turning round until they're well clear.
And right after that, we must "ignore all rules":
Hmmm. Is "G. Wickwire" the new [http://wikipediocracy.com site that shall not be named] ("oversighted" by Drmies)? Good grief.
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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Hex » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:34 am

Kiefer.Wolfowitz wrote: Very strange: Somebody revertdeleted a bunch of edits on my talk page. This Black-Ops stuff is new to me. Can anybody explain?
No less than four different admins.
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Re: GWickwire

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Hex wrote:
Kiefer.Wolfowitz wrote: Very strange: Somebody revertdeleted a bunch of edits on my talk page. This Black-Ops stuff is new to me. Can anybody explain?
No less than four different admins.
It looks like the last two were trying to clean up after Nick...

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Mason » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:57 pm

Uh-uh, looks like he's got the dreaded request to email ArbCom. (Sorta.)

Meanwhile, TCN7JM (T-C-L), whoever that is, demands that Kiefer.Wolfowitz respect his authoritah:
TCN7JM wrote:Undid revision 551099362 by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk); closed means closed

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Unread post by Kiefer.Wolfowitz » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:30 pm

Mason wrote:Uh-uh, looks like he's got the dreaded request to email ArbCom. (Sorta.)

Meanwhile, TCN7JM (T-C-L), whoever that is, demands that Kiefer.Wolfowitz respect his authoritah:
TCN7JM wrote:Undid revision 551099362 by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk); closed means closed
WTT usually is gentle towards kids. Let's hope that G---whatever he wants to be called---shall finally listen and get another account, preferably at another website.

TCN7JM has a userbox announcing his wish to be an administrator. Good luck with that.
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Re: GWickwire

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Kiefer.Wolfowitz wrote:TCN7JM has a userbox announcing his wish to be an administrator.
LOL, of course he does. "When I grow up, I want a big shiny gun so I can wave it around and make people do what I say."

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Mason » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:48 pm

Kiefer.Wolfowitz wrote:WTT usually is gentle towards kids. Let's hope that G---whatever he wants to be called---shall finally listen and get another account, preferably at another website.
I think it would be nice if all the baby Stalins forked into a new "authori-pedia" where they didn't have to worry about articles at all, and could just puff their chests, make demands, block and ban to their hearts content.

Of course, they may not need to fork. I'd say odds are even that most of the people that are on Wikipedia to be useful will get disgusted by their antics and leave, giving them the run of the place.

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Re: GWickwire

Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:28 pm

14:33, 19 March 2013 Black Kite (talk | contribs) changed visibility of 2 revisions on page User talk:Kiefer.Wolfowitz: content hidden, edit summary hidden and username hidden (User edited while logged-out, revealing IP)

Is that really a reason to oversight someone else's talkpage?
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