Split from another thread, for the Beeble file here. I was hoping that some intrepid person at some point could possibly do a de-adminship effort, but then I look (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... tor_rights) and there's no established process for de-adminning for abuse. No, I am not surprised. Oh if you look here and there, you'll see that you could possibly do an RFC process which'd chaotically go wherever it might go, and of course you'll find pointers to forums that greatly favor the administrator such as Arbcom and [sarcasm] of course WP:AN/ANI [/sarcasm] but an open and defined process for the community to say "we really should take away this guy's administrative privileges" doesn't exist that I can see. Well, there is a category populated by administrators that declare themselves "open to recall," but Beeble is not on it, and I think the much more telling message of the category is that administrators generally are *not* open to recall, they have to personally sign up for it.
The rules are riddled with stuff to enable administrator abuse. They are not rules for editors generally. Where a particular rule could be tweaked to benefit the administrator class, be assured it has been done so. For example one can't use the sock puppet report form on an administrator.
Anyhow here's Beeble's latest (
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =564814486):
The Devil's Advocate wrote:The Beebs isn't really wrong in his characterization of Apteva. Apteva has a rather extreme take on civility...
Bah, I looked briefly over Apteva's contributions, he's basically civil. He was once involved in some dispute over the respective use of hyphen vice en dash vice em dash vice minus symbol. He politely asked at WP:AN/ANI after some months for his topic ban to be lifted, but the reflexive disciplinarians that self-select to inhabit those forums, whose collective power is illegitimate and not backed by policy, do not draw personal satisfaction from fairly hearing a person out, quite the opposite. So Apteva's request is of course rejected by Wikipedia's worst, but Beeble doesn't get enough from that, he chases Apteva through his or her contributions to a third person's talkpage, and launches an extended and threatening harangue there: "I came here knowing, just knowing, [comment: that's bull, Beeble stalked Aptiva's contributions] there would already be a whiny thread started by you about this."
Apteva's comment on the page is polite. Beeble jumps in uninvited with the threats and harangue. 1) "a whiny thread started by you," 2) "Apteva pointlessly denies reality," 3) watch out we'll "topic-ban you from appealing your bans," 4) we'll just completely "siteban you," 4) "you behave Apteva like an egotistical child," 5) "the community is sick to death of your troublemaking and constant whining" 6) "you are dense" 7) "Apteva is wrong is the consensus," and 8) "stop your long rambling nonsense." And Apteva's got to sit there and absorb all that.
None of that is civil. It's another asshat administrator dumping on an editor who's being polite and trying to play by the rules. And there's no way short of herculean effort and great luck to get rid of him.
Edited to clip some of the quote and to include a link to the diff in question.
