== wikipediocracy.com ==
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WO has regrettably decided to out a Wikipedia user on its pages (the link is available from its main page, and several sub-pages that link to what's on the front page) and several en-Wikipedia users have gone on a crusade to mention this site as much as possible to push drama and in some cases to further the outing. I hope WO will do the responsible thing and remove the post, but until such time as the outing information is no longer so readily available, such links should be blocked.
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Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
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Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist&diff=543687655&oldid=543566505:
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
They have been inserting little memes in everybody's mind
So Google's shills can shriek there whenever they're inclined
So Google's shills can shriek there whenever they're inclined
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Hello, John. John, hello. You're the one soul I would come up here to collect myself.
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This is a delightful story. Blogged.
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The first link contains what looks like session data. You might want to change the link to this:roger_pearse wrote:This is a delightful story. Blogged.
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1860
That is, drop the &sid*** part. I don't know enough about computers to know whether this is important.
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{{support}}. Maybe we can go back to targeting our blogs at non-Wikipediots now!
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They have been inserting little memes in everybody's mind
So Google's shills can shriek there whenever they're inclined
So Google's shills can shriek there whenever they're inclined
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And this one, of course.
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Well, AGK has removed it from the spam blacklist, and is now working on adding a abuse filter that will prevent mentioning WO.
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*snort*tarantino wrote:Well, AGK has removed it from the spam blacklist, and is now working on adding a abuse filter that will prevent mentioning WO.
Hahaha!
I do believe that would be fun to enlarge.
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mac wrote:The first link contains what looks like session data. You might want to change the link to this:roger_pearse wrote:This is a delightful story. Blogged.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1860
That is, drop the &sid*** part. I don't know enough about computers to know whether this is important.
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Does that pop up in google?Zoloft wrote:*snort*tarantino wrote:...adding a abuse filter that will prevent mentioning WO.
Hahaha!
I do believe that would be fun to enlarge.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Btw, I did take a look at Alexa. It seems this month
*Traffic rank went down (i.e. improved) by 38,637 (the 3 month drop was 49,181, so, if I understand it correctly (I don't know much about this stuff), about 80% of the traffic rank improvement was in the past month
*Number of page views up by 48%
*Pageviews/user up by 40%
*Time on site up by 83%
*Search % up ... only 6%. This last one (again, iiuic) tells you % of visits that arrive via search engine.
*Traffic rank went down (i.e. improved) by 38,637 (the 3 month drop was 49,181, so, if I understand it correctly (I don't know much about this stuff), about 80% of the traffic rank improvement was in the past month
*Number of page views up by 48%
*Pageviews/user up by 40%
*Time on site up by 83%
*Search % up ... only 6%. This last one (again, iiuic) tells you % of visits that arrive via search engine.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
It seems in line when I started posting here! Coincidence? I think not.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Now removed? Hmmm... I'll simply note that "AGK," whoever he is, unilaterally added it to the blacklist today with zero discussion despite the notion being rejected by one of their holy "community processes" in the past couple of days. That vote is/was 7 against, 4 for.
Aren't the arbitrators supposed to channel "teh community's" will the way the Pope channels God's?
Aren't the arbitrators supposed to channel "teh community's" will the way the Pope channels God's?
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Seems to be more like channeling an evil spirit than the Holy spirit!
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Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
AGK or SilverSeren could present their case for blacklisting WO to WP's configuration control board, whose job it is to make these kind of decisions. What? One of the most highly trafficked websites in the world doesn't have a configuration control board? Who is running that thing, a bunch of teen-agers?Volunteer Marek wrote:Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
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A Wile E. Coyote?Volunteer Marek wrote:Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
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Vastly worse than that.Zoloft wrote:A Wile E. Coyote?Volunteer Marek wrote:Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
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yes. his new furry suit.Zoloft wrote:A Wile E. Coyote?Volunteer Marek wrote:Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
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Oh, ho.Volunteer Marek wrote:yes. his new furry suit.Zoloft wrote:A Wile E. Coyote?Volunteer Marek wrote:Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
I see what you did there....
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Volunteer Marek wrote:Ok, I can't help it, I got to say it: the funny thing about it is that Wikipediocracy was greatly helped out by Silver Seren, who in his zeal to go after the evil folks overplayed his hand and made the proposal prematurely. So it got rejected. And now you can point to the rejection and say "uh uh AGK". Thanks Seren! A wily schemer you're not. A schemer, yes. A wily, no.
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Let's all pause and have a moment of uh, <s>silence</s> <s>prayer</s> appreciation! for Silver Seren who will forever be remembered as the Wikipedia editor who saved Wikipediocracy from being blacklisted on Wikipedia. At least in 2013. If you could build monuments on the internet I picture some kind of a post-modern social commentary involving a gothic statue of a marble white tiger morphing into a a bronze coyote, with anchovies pizza splattered all over it. That's about right.
Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Speaking of Seren, does he have some sort of "batshit crazy" magnet? Mbz reached out to him today regarding Demiurge1000's usage of the hacked e-mails discussed on WR last year or so;Volunteer Marek wrote:Let's all pause and have a moment of uh, <s>silence</s> <s>prayer</s> appreciation! for Silver Seren who will forever be remembered as the Wikipedia editor who saved Wikipediocracy from being blacklisted on Wikipedia. At least in 2013. If you could build monuments on the internet I picture some kind of a post-modern social commentary involving a gothic statue of a marble white tiger morphing into a a bronze coyote, with anchovies pizza splattered all over it. That's about right.
Hi Silver seren,
About a year ago user Demiurge1000 collaborated with a criminal who hacked an email account of a person. Although user Demiurge1000 has probably never posted to WR himself,he was helping that hacker to harass the person on WR. Then user Demiurge1000 was the first one to support the community ban of the person. As a reason for his support he used "the evidences" he got from the hacker. Even now user Demiurge1000 continues to hound the person he harassed so badly. Regards. 67.169.10.215 (talk) 16:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Do you have any evidence for these claims? For example, diffs to the community ban discussion, ect? I don't even see how you would know about any of this if the supposed collaboration was in secret. SilverserenC 16:55, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Alright. SilverserenC 19:41, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Note that the IP is almost certainly banned user Mbz1 (talk · contribs). I'd strongly encourage you to remove her attacks on Demiurge from your page. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I always had good relations with Mbz1 when she was editing, but evading blocks to attack Wikipedians is not acceptable. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:21, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
So... AGK is aiming to do for Wikipedia what Selina did for Wikipedia Review?tarantino wrote:Well, AGK has removed it from the spam blacklist, and is now working on adding a abuse filter that will prevent mentioning WO.
Brilliant.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Yep because adding an abuse filter wasn't discussed in the vote that didn't pass. A pretty dirty tactic if you ask me.
Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
AGK's filter was denied/deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Ab ... istory/537
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Most of you probably noticed this already, but there's a discussion about the edit filter here.
What was the timetable for this? If he continued working on the edit filter even after he was aware community consensus opposed him about adding Wikipediocracy to the spam blacklist, that's definitely a problem.
What was the timetable for this? If he continued working on the edit filter even after he was aware community consensus opposed him about adding Wikipediocracy to the spam blacklist, that's definitely a problem.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
It's the other way around, he created the edit filter first then added to the blacklist a few minutes later. Covering all the bases?
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Wow.
That's some asshattery on the part of the people questioning Black Kite.
They just CAN'T talk about the question asked, they have to pivot to talk about something else.
BlackKite: "Did AGK abuse his tools in this event?"
ArbX: "Buh, buh, what about doxxing?! Huh? Huh? You LIKE doxxing?! Huh? Huh?"
That's some asshattery on the part of the people questioning Black Kite.
They just CAN'T talk about the question asked, they have to pivot to talk about something else.
BlackKite: "Did AGK abuse his tools in this event?"
ArbX: "Buh, buh, what about doxxing?! Huh? Huh? You LIKE doxxing?! Huh? Huh?"
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(moved from the "Hersfold resigns" thread because it seems more relevant here)
http://www.google.com/search?q=Russavia
A click will show why. One wonders how far the prohibition movement will go; will just mentioning that fact there earn a block, or even a desysopping now?
If I understand it right, the following link is now verboten within the mothership:DanMurphy wrote:naughty words like "wikipediocracy"
http://www.google.com/search?q=Russavia
A click will show why. One wonders how far the prohibition movement will go; will just mentioning that fact there earn a block, or even a desysopping now?
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I've seen this sort of thing before from Roger Davies. With him, it's about par for the course.Vigilant wrote:Wow.
That's some asshattery on the part of the people questioning Black Kite.
They just CAN'T talk about the question asked, they have to pivot to talk about something else.
BlackKite: "Did AGK abuse his tools in this event?"
ArbX: "Buh, buh, what about doxxing?! Huh? Huh? You LIKE doxxing?! Huh? Huh?"
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
I have to admit, I used to be a big fan of Roger when he was over at Milhist. Always pleasant to work with and a good person to ask questions of. Since he has been in Arbcom though I have to say that the respect factor has been slipping. His decisions frequently don't make sense and several where down right wrong.
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You might find SightWatcher's comment here informative. (Incidentally, as far as I know, Roger Davies never made any attempt to respond to these accusations about his mishandling of the R&I case.)Kumioko wrote:I have to admit, I used to be a big fan of Roger when he was over at Milhist. Always pleasant to work with and a good person to ask questions of. Since he has been in Arbcom though I have to say that the respect factor has been slipping. His decisions frequently don't make sense and several where down right wrong.
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Moving off-topic posts.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Scottywong, March 10, 2013:
Scottywong, January 9, 2013:
I wonder if Scottywong knows that as a result of his snippy little comment on January 9, 2013, that somebody's employer was contacted, and somebody did lose their job? I'm not sure if Scottywong is the world's biggest hypocrite, or simply the world's biggest stooge.
For those unaware of the situation, some members of WO discovered who my employer was at the time and threatened to contact them in an attempt to get me fired.
Scottywong, January 9, 2013:
Anyone feel like doing a checkuser on that IP address to see what account(s) have used it?
I wonder if Scottywong knows that as a result of his snippy little comment on January 9, 2013, that somebody's employer was contacted, and somebody did lose their job? I'm not sure if Scottywong is the world's biggest hypocrite, or simply the world's biggest stooge.
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Yeah, that was bull where the person posted earlier that AGK's edits about breaking one's thoughts on a bipolar particular negative thought by thinking of the opposite seemed personal experience. One can read that in any book I'd imagine. What's going on though is interactions between this website and ArbCom. It seems really worried and overreacting and there is definitely some "Streisand Effect" occurring. It seems to me like AGK and just prior to him Hersfold got worried because of something not in public view. So Hersfold runs and AGK blacklists. I am against outing unless the outee has used anonymity to really impugn some real life person (or certainly if the wellbeing of children is reasonably, definably seen as threatened).
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That seemed a valid observation. The user was simply speculating.Triptych (bolding mine) wrote:Yeah, that was bull where the person posted earlier that AGK's edits about breaking one's thoughts on a bipolar particular negative thought by thinking of the opposite seemed personal experience. One can read that in any book I'd imagine. What's going on though is interactions between this website and ArbCom. It seems really worried and overreacting and there is definitely some "Streisand Effect" occurring. It seems to me like AGK and just prior to him Hersfold got worried because of something not in public view. So Hersfold runs and AGK blacklists. I am against outing unless the outee has used anonymity to really impugn some real life person (or certainly if the wellbeing of children is reasonably, definably seen as threatened).
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
ScottyWong just restored Wikipediocracy to the blacklist, "per IAR"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =543709403
Didn't he try doing this over at Commons too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =543709403
Didn't he try doing this over at Commons too?
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Hey ScottW,Volunteer Marek wrote:ScottyWong just restored Wikipediocracy to the blacklist, "per IAR"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =543709403
Didn't he try doing this over at Commons too?
You might want to reconsider that given your editing patterns in the days of yore.
Also, I believe WP:INVOLVED might apply here. Time to put your ass up for a desysop.
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Funny, funny stuff being written here:
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Frankly, I find opposes like this to be ridiculous. How do any of the examples in this oppose provide evidence that the candidate is not ready for adminship? We should be opposing only for valid concerns, not for personality quirks that you personally find slightly annoying. RfA is a simple application for a few additional tools, not a popularity contest or a political election. [[User:Scottywong]] 00:17, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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Just when you think they must be all out of stupid over there at Wikipedia, some kid brews up a fresh batch of the stuff.
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It really does seem like some kind of grand conspiracy... to destroy Wikipedia from within. I'm reminded of a time my favorite "weird-oldies" radio station got bought out by someone who wanted to turn it into ye regular milktoast top 40 pop station. First thing they did after acquiring it is have a week of "Reports from roadside construction work", which was essentially broadcasting of jackhammers 24/7. They were letting the regular listeners know "leave, this isn't your place anymore" and cleaning the slate.thekohser wrote:Just when you think they must be all out of stupid over there at Wikipedia, some kid brews up a fresh batch of the stuff.
I dunno, you think they decided to sell Wikipedia off for scrap metal?
Edit: Or, as an alternative conspiracy theory (the amount of stupidity there invites it), maybe someone somewhere decided that it was time to clean up Wikipedia and the way to do it was to provoke a big ol' nasty fight with the "undesirables" which could then be used as an excuse for a cleansing.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
Wow, I thought this topic was all done with.
Oh well, guess I have a minor admin task to perform: link
Oh well, guess I have a minor admin task to perform: link
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All according to plan.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
All those Wikipediocracy regulars that he can't identify. Perhaps he overlooked where Seren and the IRC crew fought valiantly for the blacklisting?Snottywong wrote: I honestly don't care about the recent discussion on VP. The discussion almost exclusively involved Wikipediocracy regulars, so I don't consider it an unbiased consensus discussion. I wasn't aware of the blacklist talk page discussion, but I wouldn't be surprised if it mostly involved Wikipediocracy regulars as well. I could be wrong. I don't keep a list of who contributes to WO, and I don't read it regularly to know who is who
Natch. This doesn't look like petty revenge at all.Snottywong wrote:apart from the editors who commented on the event that involved me.
He doesn't have to say it at all. Action speaks louder than words.Snottywong wrote: I'm not saying that any discussion that involves WO regulars is automatically voided.
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Re: Blacklisting Wikipediocracy
ScottW reverts himself on the blacklist
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =544364738
Those are 12 hours of sheer hell not being able to link to wikipediocracy...
The horror, the horror
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =544364738
Those are 12 hours of sheer hell not being able to link to wikipediocracy...
The horror, the horror
Hello, John. John, hello. You're the one soul I would come up here to collect myself.