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List of Crime Patrol episodes (T-H-L)

Kill me now. I don't know how NPPers do it, really.

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William Murray (New Brunswick politician) (T-H-L)

1. GNG fail, isn't it?
2. He probably did exist
3. MeGO

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Basketball at the 1992 Summer Olympics
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1. Sure
2. Referencing light indeed; maybe even check for copy vio
3. see above

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Puño Airlines (T-H-L)

1. Epic enough to be notable
2. Some solid news coverage; probably referencing could be improved though
3. not sure what a trusted source would be for this topic

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Unread post by C&B » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:44 am

[Off topic, but cannot be just me that wants to change the thread title to 'answer me these questions three'...! :D ]
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Susan Rook (T-H-L)

1. Yes
2. Hell no
3. No

Not hard to guess which part of this article was written by RealSusanRook (T-C-L), who also provided the ridiculous portrait.

Elinruby wrote:
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Sarah Tait (T-H-L)

1. Yes: World champion and Olympic medallist.
2. Yes: A lot of non-independent sources are used, but they seem to be used appropriately.
3. Yes: More detailed than Olympedia.

A rare Wikipedia W. I don’t get why this is only assessed as Start-class. Does it need to be longer?
Sometimes it is simply that nobody has rated the article. Try running it through Rater.

(later) I seem to have uninstalled Rater, but offhand I think it is B-class. I hesitate to make the call officially though, in case there is some special requirement for Olympians or rowers that it isn't meeting. Bottom line, though, you can do this yourself, manually if you don't want to install the gadget
Ooh, I didn’t know the WMF had produced such voodoo magic. ORES thinks Sarah Tait is 48% likely to be C-class and 98% likely to be about “Politics and government”. :applause:

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97th meridian west (T-H-L)

1. No.
2. Completely unreferenced.
3. A globe or map would be superior.
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Guangzhou Changlong railway station (T-H-L)

1. No.
2. No.
3. *shrug*
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Háčky wrote:
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Ooh, I didn’t know the WMF had produced such voodoo magic. ORES thinks Sarah Tait is 48% likely to be C-class and 98% likely to be about “Politics and government”. :applause:
Well here's the criteria for B class:

B1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations.
B2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
B3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content.
B4. It is free from major grammatical errors.
B5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams.

I suppose a picture would be nice, but it does have an infobox. "Reasonably covers the topic" was the one that made me hesitate. I don't know if there is some list of things articles about Olympians should cover, but off hand I dpn't see any issues.

If you think the referencing isn't good enough call it C class. You're still right that it's way better than most Starts

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Mission sui iuris of Lunda (T-H-L)

1. Don't really see the point, no. Seems of interest to nobody but Church officials, who surely don't need need wikipedia to keep track of their administrative units. Maybe there is some history here that hasn't been written yet
2. shrug
3. shrug

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Wiesau (river) (T-H-L)

1. Geo
2. I do believe that the Wiesau river flows through Wiesau
3. A map would be better

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Ulrich von Hassell (T-H-L)

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

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Wiesau (river) (T-H-L)

1. Geo
2. I do believe that the Wiesau river flows through Wiesau
3. A map would be better
Too bad. Because It doesn't flow through Wiesau. It flows past it.
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Msumarini (T-H-L)

1. It was mass-added from Geonames and Mangoe hasn't gotten to it yet.
2. If you know anything about geostubs you know it can't be trusted.
3. It's a geostub so there is probably isn't a trusted source.
Mangoe got to it.

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Kalafalar (T-H-L)

1. Geo
2. no
3. no

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Angelina Phera Polius (T-H-L)

1. Unsuree
2. Political career section raises more questions than it answers
3. Unfamiliar with the sources but I feel the urge tp go there figure out what the article is saying. Probably
since she was unable to claim a seat in the House of Assembly.
just means she lost an election so she help on to the appointed seat (?)

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Mygale M21-F4 (T-H-L)'

1. I smell puffery. Maybe though
2. Not at all
3. no

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Angelina Phera Polius (T-H-L)

1. Unsuree
2. Political career section raises more questions than it answers
3. Unfamiliar with the sources but I feel the urge tp go there figure out what the article is saying. Probably
since she was unable to claim a seat in the House of Assembly.
just means she lost an election so she help on to the appointed seat (?)
The way I understand it (after looking at Senate of Saint Lucia (T-H-L) and this news article) she was again appointed to the senate. Turns out senators are "appointed by the Governor-General, of which 6 are appointed on the Prime Minister's advice, 3 on the advice of the leader of the opposition, and 2 independent members which the Governor-General appoints using his or her own judgment." So as far as I can tell she didn't automatically hold on to the seat, but was reappointed for a new term.
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Mygale M21-F4 (T-H-L)'

1. I smell puffery. Maybe though
2. Not at all
3. no
Championships

French F4 Championship (2022–present)
F4 Indian Championship (2023–present)
F4 Chinese Championship (2024)
This suggests that they won those championships which I guess is technically correct in the sense that (as far as I can tell) they produce all the cars for those competitions.
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Stanislaw Tillich (T-H-L)

1. Yes.
2. Could use more references.
3. I doubt that there is much that is independent and in English.

Unfortunately I can't take an article seriously when it says that the President of the German Bundesrat (T-H-L) is the deputy of the President of Germany (T-H-L). Which unfortunately also applies to the latter two articles, too.
The Bundespräsident has no deputy.
Grundgesetz wrote:Article 57
If the Federal President is unable to perform his duties, or if his office falls prematurely vacant, the President of the Bundesrat shall exercise his powers.
That does not make them the deputy. That makes them the emergency placeholder.
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Stanislaw Tillich (T-H-L)

1. Yes.
2. Could use more references.
3. I doubt that there is much that is independent and in English.
That does not make them the deputy. That makes them the emergency placeholder.
That would be a good title for somebody like the Bursar in the Discworld series

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Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:20 pm
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Mygale M21-F4 (T-H-L)'

1. I smell puffery. Maybe though
2. Not at all
3. no
Championships

French F4 Championship (2022–present)
F4 Indian Championship (2023–present)
F4 Chinese Championship (2024)
This suggests that they won those championships which I guess is technically correct in the sense that (as far as I can tell) they produce all the cars for those competitions.
Ok, so notable? I haveno frame of reference here

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Gojko Cimirot (T-H-L)

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No

Everything in this article (except the pronunciation) can be found in databases like Soccerway. The fact that it’s all been carefully written out in prose and cited to Bosnian media is good for earning brownie points on Wikipedia but I doubt anyone wants to read it. At least now I know that “Al-Fayha” is Arabic for “Later stage of career”.

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Day Forest National Park (T-H-L)

1. Yes. Interesting also
2. References look solid
3. probably would not have encountered this elsewhere.

the writing is ever so slightly not-English. But not bad enough to make this not a good little article

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1939 Holy Cross Crusaders football team (T-H-L)

1. Not to me.
2. Referencing looks ok, and look the team has its own navbox. Somebody cares
3. ?

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James Wren (T-H-L)

Slave-owner

1. George Washington. George Mason, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson etc
2. Over-referenced if anything
3. Meh. Is there some reason the article keeps talking about "enslaved persons"? Did I miss a memo or something?

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Elinruby wrote:
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rnu wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:20 pm
Elinruby wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:32 pm
Mygale M21-F4 (T-H-L)'

1. I smell puffery. Maybe though
2. Not at all
3. no
Championships

French F4 Championship (2022–present)
F4 Indian Championship (2023–present)
F4 Chinese Championship (2024)
This suggests that they won those championships which I guess is technically correct in the sense that (as far as I can tell) they produce all the cars for those competitions.
Ok, so notable? I haveno frame of reference here
F4 is for junior drivers and has no global championship. So it is not exactly top tier. I don't know whether F4 cars are really notable. I'm guessing that this one could be sufficiently dealt with in the Mygale (T-H-L) article.
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Ron Hester (T-H-L)

1. (American) Football player. The article mentions only that he was selected in the NFL draft, not that he actually played. But apparently he did play nine games. I think that means that Wikipedia (if no-one else) considers him notable.
2. No.
3. No.
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Artie Young (T-H-L)

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Probably.
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C&B wrote:
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[Off topic, but cannot be just me that wants to change the thread title to 'answer me these questions three'...! :D ]
Support a change

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Nine Daughters of Ægir and Rán (T-H-L)

1. Yes.
2. There's room for improvement, but it's not too bad.
3. Maybe. You could probably find something better in more specialized sources but not in general reference works.
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Patrick Killen (T-H-L)

1. Not obvious. But probably notable.
2. Completely unsourced.
3. *shrug*
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The Dead Kingdom (T-H-L)
1. No
2. No
3. No

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Miguel Ángel Sierra (T-H-L)

1. Olympics permastub
2. reference supports his existence
3. MEGO

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Volkmar Busch (T-H-L)

1. Nice case of institutional ADD
2. not really. Even the Danish article isn't great
3. I he is notable one would think so

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Artie Young (T-H-L)

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Probably.
yeah, I rather like this article

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Volkmar Busch (T-H-L)

1. Nice case of institutional ADD
2. not really. Even the Danish article isn't great
3. I he is notable one would think so
The cited source is an entry in an old encyclopaedia that is vastly better. The Swedish Wikipedia article is basically a rewrite of that. The Danish is that plus the weird stuff about Clara Wieck (so? he didn't marry her), which I don't see in that source.

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Yngvadottir wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:35 pm
Elinruby wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:18 pm
Volkmar Busch (T-H-L)

1. Nice case of institutional ADD
2. not really. Even the Danish article isn't great
3. I he is notable one would think so
The cited source is an entry in an old encyclopaedia that is vastly better. The Swedish Wikipedia article is basically a rewrite of that. The Danish is that plus the weird stuff about Clara Wieck (so? he didn't marry her), which I don't see in that source.

I thought that was weird also. In fact, I think I will take it out. If anyone ever gets serious about this bio maybe they can source it.

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Phi Delta Pi (T-H-L)

1. No: It existed and then it didn’t. The article doesn’t tell us if it did anything in between.
2. No, especially not the infobox that says its headquarters was “[line break] US”.
3. No

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Main page (T-H-L)

1. Is it immediately obvious why Wikipedia has this article? (Yes/No)
to spread misinformation far and wide

2. Is it immediately obvious you can trust this article? (Yes/No)
ITN contains misinformation today (this time about Haiti's presidential council)

3. Is the article better than a trusted Wikipedia alternative might offer? (Yes/No/N.A.)
(doubtful that an alternative would want to serve as en.wp's front page)
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Multani (raga) (T-H-L)

1. Apparently the topic is notable. I have previously asked myself this about another raga. So no, not to me, but that seems to be ignorance on my part
2. I don't understand this article
3. No idea

(edit) it did inspire me to see what YouTube had to say about this

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Jens Wisløff (T-H-L)

1. No actually but I have no objection to it. Bit-player bio?
2. References seem fine
3. I would never look this up

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Mezira lobata (T-H-L)

1. species. Today I learned that a flat bug is a true bug. Not sure I am wiser.
2. what's to trust?
3. Third reference at least has pictures

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97th meridian west (T-H-L)

1. No.
2. Completely unreferenced.
3. A globe or map would be superior.
These latitude and longitude articles are uniformly complete shit and should all be deleted.

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James Wren (T-H-L)

Slave-owner

1. George Washington. George Mason, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson etc
2. Over-referenced if anything
3. Meh. Is there some reason the article keeps talking about "enslaved persons"? Did I miss a memo or something?
Ming believes it is the euphemism of choice these days among right-thinking people.

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Ming believes it is the euphemism of choice these days among right-thinking people.
Elinruby opposes euphemism and changed it

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Star 67 (T-H-L)

1. No.
2. No.
3. I mean, it's a movie that doesn't have an imdb page, so I guess there are no alternatives.
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Re: Answer these three questions about a random Wikipedia article and win a car

Unread post by TheMintyMan » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:06 pm

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Oh my god.

1. Is it immediately obvious why Wikipedia has this article?
No. A pitiful excuse for an article, consisting of four meagre unsourced sentences.

2. Is it immediately obvious you can trust this article?
No. One of the refs is dead, there's no inline references, one of the other refs is a promo piece, and there are weasel words.

3. Is the article better than a trusted Wikipedia alternative might offer?
No. A quick search reveals this Computerworld article that is more in-depth.

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Re: Answer these three questions about a random Wikipedia article and win a car

Unread post by Elinruby » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:12 am

Christopher Preston, 2nd Baron Gormanston (T-H-L)

medieval Ireland

1. The charge of treason and the 30-year feud mentioned may make this man notable
2. Two of the three references have "Peerage" in the title.
3. Haven't looked at Irish history much. Don't know. It's pretty early.

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Re: Answer these three questions about a random Wikipedia article and win a car

Unread post by Háčky » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:38 am

Nzambi Matee (T-H-L)

1. No, it fails BLP1E. The article is about Matee’s company, but Women in Red doesn’t write articles about companies, so they had to pretend it’s about the person. So in that sense, I guess it is obvious.
2. No, the sources are all puff pieces.
3. No, some of the puff pieces give key details that Wikipedia omits, like what kinds of plastic are used.