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Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Drsmoo (T-C-L) is once again at AE making obvious bad faith allegations. This time the target is the famously "retired" Nishidani (T-C-L).
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... #Nishidani
Some past Drsmoo shenanigans:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13149&hilit=drsmoo#p334279
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13027&p=330022&hilit=drsmoo#p330022
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... #Nishidani
Some past Drsmoo shenanigans:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13149&hilit=drsmoo#p334279
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13027&p=330022&hilit=drsmoo#p330022
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Aren't slurs for ANI? Like that recent Ruskee discussion.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
The same jackasses always come when this happens
Nableezy, Selfstudier and Objective3000 all lined up to suck Nishidani off and Coretheapple has his mouth open for Drsmoo
I would say ban all of these idiots except they are too entertaining
Nableezy, Selfstudier and Objective3000 all lined up to suck Nishidani off and Coretheapple has his mouth open for Drsmoo
I would say ban all of these idiots except they are too entertaining
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
How come no one at AE has yet dived in to assert that the use of "dumb" in this context is ableist?
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Yes, because objecting to bullshit is "suck[ing] Nishidani off". Thank you for that cogent analysis.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:25 pmThe same jackasses always come when this happens
Nableezy, Selfstudier and Objective3000 all lined up to suck Nishidani off and Coretheapple has his mouth open for Drsmoo
I would say ban all of these idiots except they are too entertaining
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Drsmoo wrote:Used the phrase "Dumb Goyim beware" to impugn a living person, perhaps more broadly.
Drsmoo wrote:I can only assume he is using it in the same way it is frequently found on hate sites, as a way to claim Jews hate non-Jews.
Drsmoo wrote:The issue is not criticism of Bret Stephens, the issue is Nishidani's use of a common antisemitic trope, which is either being used to impugn Bret Stephens, or Jews more broadly.
Drsmoo wrote:Nishidani was criticizing Bret Stephen's own outrageous views. In doing so, he sarcastically used the phrase "Dumb Goyim", which is a known antisemitic trope, but which unfortunately, whether intentional or not, added an additional layer of uncomfortable meaning to the reply.
Somehow Drsmoo also wrote:I explained how and why the phrase is antisemitic with reliable sources, rather than commenting on Nishidani.
The dishonesty here is so blatant you'd think Drsmoo is an admin.And then Drsmoo wrote:I’m not making any comments on another user, only on the nature of the phrase he posted, which is absolutely unacceptable.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Stop being a Palestine simp and then people will stop thinking you're a Palestine simpnableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:59 pmYes, because objecting to bullshit is "suck[ing] Nishidani off". Thank you for that cogent analysis.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:25 pmThe same jackasses always come when this happens
Nableezy, Selfstudier and Objective3000 all lined up to suck Nishidani off and Coretheapple has his mouth open for Drsmoo
I would say ban all of these idiots except they are too entertaining
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
He's cracked the whole thing wide open with that absolutely brilliant takedown!Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:50 pmStop being a Palestine simp and then people will stop thinking you're a Palestine simp
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Which is truenableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:54 pmHe's cracked the whole thing wide open with that absolutely brilliant takedown!Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:50 pmStop being a Palestine simp and then people will stop thinking you're a Palestine simp
1. You defend both Israel simps and Palestine simps because you're engaging in good faith
2. You only defend Israel simps because you're a bullshitter
3. You only defend Palestine simps because you're a bullshitter
I know it's not 2 and I haven't seen evidence of 1
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I cant take you seriously when you use the word "simps" that many times, sorry. Like I really tried, swear to god.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:02 pm
Which is true
1. You defend both Israel simps and Palestine simps because you're engaging in good faith
2. You only defend Israel simps because you're a bullshitter
3. You only defend Palestine simps because you're a bullshitter
I know it's not 2 and I haven't seen evidence of 1
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
nableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:07 pmI cant take you seriously when you use the word "simps" that many times, sorry. Like I really tried, swear to god.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:02 pm
Which is true
1. You defend both Israel simps and Palestine simps because you're engaging in good faith
2. You only defend Israel simps because you're a bullshitter
3. You only defend Palestine simps because you're a bullshitter
I know it's not 2 and I haven't seen evidence of 1
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
I think crudely dismissing all of the people involved in the Israel Palestine topic area, one of the world's most contentious disputes, as "simps" for one side or the other is pretty reductive, no?
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Have you stopped beating your wife?Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:12 pmnableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:07 pmI cant take you seriously when you use the word "simps" that many times, sorry. Like I really tried, swear to god.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:02 pm
Which is true
1. You defend both Israel simps and Palestine simps because you're engaging in good faith
2. You only defend Israel simps because you're a bullshitter
3. You only defend Palestine simps because you're a bullshitter
I know it's not 2 and I haven't seen evidence of 1
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
It's not -quite- the full houseStarship Enterprise wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:25 pmThe same jackasses always come when this happens
Nableezy, Selfstudier and Objective3000 all lined up to suck Nishidani off and Coretheapple has his mouth open for Drsmoo
I would say ban all of these idiots except they are too entertaining
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Looks like a boomerang in store for Drsmoo while Nishidani gets the We're Not Anti-Semitic And Neither Are You Award from the Goyim Defense League.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Or perhaps not. ScottishFinnishRadish has a reasonably cogent assessment of the situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1207721221charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:50 pmLooks like a boomerang in store for Drsmoo while Nishidani gets the We're Not Anti-Semitic And Neither Are You Award from the Goyim Defense League.
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He appears to be nearly alone in his everybody is bad take. Not as alone as you are with your not so veiled insult that I’m sure you spent an afternoon to come up with but still pretty lonely.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:11 pmOr perhaps not. ScottishFinnishRadish has a reasonably cogent assessment of the situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1207721221charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:50 pmLooks like a boomerang in store for Drsmoo while Nishidani gets the We're Not Anti-Semitic And Neither Are You Award from the Goyim Defense League.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Now now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:42 pmHe appears to be nearly alone in his everybody is bad take. Not as alone as you are with your not so veiled insult that I’m sure you spent an afternoon to come up with but still pretty lonely.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:11 pmOr perhaps not. ScottishFinnishRadish has a reasonably cogent assessment of the situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1207721221charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:50 pmLooks like a boomerang in store for Drsmoo while Nishidani gets the We're Not Anti-Semitic And Neither Are You Award from the Goyim Defense League.
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I’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
When will Wikipedia editors, acting in the capacity of Wikipedia editors, stop slinging shit at other editors on Wikipediocracy as a way to circumvent (gaeming, to bee tecshnicallie ackshurate) the civility/NPA policy? I thought that this was a forum critical of Wikipedia, not one supporting the MMORPG culture of Wikipedia.
Not naming any names - I'm sure everyone can guess who I'm talking about.
Of course, I'm not saying that the dramah isn't fun to watch at all.
Medical note: Overdosing on dramah causes blue eyes (with tremendously sized black bags underneath) and an inner madness to spur out of the affected individual.
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Not naming any names - I'm sure everyone can guess who I'm talking about.
Of course, I'm not saying that the dramah isn't fun to watch at all.
Medical note: Overdosing on dramah causes blue eyes (with tremendously sized black bags underneath) and an inner madness to spur out of the affected individual.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
That's right. You're just passing through. No agenda whatsoever. My mistake. And by the way, just to show how indifferent you are to the whole thing, you just spent a good part of a day drafting stuff in AE, and when I cited SFR favorably here, not mentioning you, you weighed in and got nasty.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:22 pmI’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
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You can pretend your portrayal of what I wrote resembles what I wrote if you want.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:43 pmThat's right. You're just passing through. No agenda whatsoever. My mistake.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:22 pmI’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Just wanted to be sure you saw what I added to what you're quoting: And by the way, just to show how indifferent you are to the whole thing, you just spent a good part of a day drafting stuff in AE, and when I cited SFR favorably here, not mentioning you, you weighed in and got nasty. Remember that? So don't play the victim here.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:49 pmYou can pretend your portrayal of what I wrote resembles what I wrote if you want.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:43 pmThat's right. You're just passing through. No agenda whatsoever. My mistake.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:22 pmI’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
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I didn’t say I was indifferent genius. I got nasty? I’m the one that said Nishidani got an award from an antisemitic hate group? Cool story. I’d tell you what I think about you but I’ve been told not to attack forum members, no matter how idiotic their posts are.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:57 pmJust wanted to be sure you saw what I added to what you're quoting: And by the way, just to show how indifferent you are to the whole thing, you just spent a good part of a day drafting stuff in AE, and when I cited SFR favorably here, not mentioning you, you weighed in and got nasty. Remember that? So don't play the victim here.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:49 pmYou can pretend your portrayal of what I wrote resembles what I wrote if you want.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:43 pmThat's right. You're just passing through. No agenda whatsoever. My mistake.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:22 pmI’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Yeah, you got nasty with me. Remember? I didn't mention you. I commented on SFR's comment and you said as follows:nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:07 pmI didn’t say I was indifferent genius. I got nasty? I’m the one that said Nishidani got an award from an antisemitic hate group? Cool story. I’d tell you what I think about you but I’ve been told not to attack forum members, no matter how idiotic their posts are.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:57 pmJust wanted to be sure you saw what I added to what you're quoting: And by the way, just to show how indifferent you are to the whole thing, you just spent a good part of a day drafting stuff in AE, and when I cited SFR favorably here, not mentioning you, you weighed in and got nasty. Remember that? So don't play the victim here.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:49 pmYou can pretend your portrayal of what I wrote resembles what I wrote if you want.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:43 pmThat's right. You're just passing through. No agenda whatsoever. My mistake.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:22 pmI’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
He appears to be nearly alone in his everybody is bad take. Not as alone as you are with your not so veiled insult that I’m sure you spent an afternoon to come up with but still pretty lonely. So like I said, don't play the victim.
Anyway, there's no reason for pearl-clutching on your part. SFR may get outvoted and you will get another adversary smacked around. Which is what you want, right?
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Seems like the appropriate time to share my favorite edit on Wikipedia
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
lol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestinenableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:07 pmI didn’t say I was indifferent genius. I got nasty? I’m the one that said Nishidani got an award from an antisemitic hate group? Cool story. I’d tell you what I think about you but I’ve been told not to attack forum members, no matter how idiotic their posts are.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:57 pmJust wanted to be sure you saw what I added to what you're quoting: And by the way, just to show how indifferent you are to the whole thing, you just spent a good part of a day drafting stuff in AE, and when I cited SFR favorably here, not mentioning you, you weighed in and got nasty. Remember that? So don't play the victim here.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:49 pmYou can pretend your portrayal of what I wrote resembles what I wrote if you want.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:43 pmThat's right. You're just passing through. No agenda whatsoever. My mistake.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:22 pmI’ve never pretended to be such a thing, I said I would rather not have to deal with the canvassing and proxying over "removing opponents" or whatever other bullshit you were spouting.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pmNow now, Nableezy. You're shedding your "I'm just a disinterested Wikipedian with no stake in this whole distasteful business and am pained by the burden it places on our blessed community" pose.
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
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Jesus wept.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Rest easy! Victory is within your grasp. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1207783682nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:56 pmSeems like the appropriate time to share my favorite edit on Wikipedia
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It's like people purposely dont read lol. Wild how many of yall have assembled here.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
OK. Let's do some reading. Here's the only user box on your page:nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:29 pmIt's like people purposely dont read lol. Wild how many of yall have assembled here.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable.
Who are those "particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable"?
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
You need to dial it down, or else tell us who you are on wikipedia so we can judge you too.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Do you object to the general principle or to the application to particular individuals or groups?charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:25 pmOK. Let's do some reading. Here's the only user box on your page:nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:29 pmIt's like people purposely dont read lol. Wild how many of yall have assembled here.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable.
Who are those "particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable"?
Either way: is it more neutral to object than to support?
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
You do understand what "I didn’t say I was indifferent genius" means, right? It means "I am not indifferent, moron."charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:25 pmOK. Let's do some reading. Here's the only user box on your page:nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:29 pmIt's like people purposely dont read lol. Wild how many of yall have assembled here.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable.
Who are those "particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable"?
But that userbox is about the censorship of unpopular opinions among a group of, largely, white American and European men. The belief that was being censored when that userbox was created by an editor that I wish was still around was that Hezbollah has the right to violently resist aggression and foreign occupation. As do all groups and people. Wild how many of the Free Ukraine crowd seems to think that right is restricted to white Europeans.
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So you don't want to name the terrorist groups you support. You mention Hezbollah but put it on someone else's lap. Look, I don't mind that you're an SPA who has only one purpose, which is to push the Palestine cause. I do find your oiliness and evasiveness repulsive.nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:53 pmYou do understand what "I didn’t say I was indifferent genius" means, right? It means "I am not indifferent, moron."charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:25 pmOK. Let's do some reading. Here's the only user box on your page:nableezy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:29 pmIt's like people purposely dont read lol. Wild how many of yall have assembled here.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
This user supports the right of all individuals and groups to violently resist military aggression and occupation by other parties, but due to an alleged consensus he is disallowed from naming particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable.
Who are those "particular individuals or groups which certain administrators find to be unacceptable"?
But that userbox is about the censorship of unpopular opinions among a group of, largely, white American and European men. The belief that was being censored when that userbox was created by an editor that I wish was still around was that Hezbollah has the right to violently resist aggression and foreign occupation. As do all groups and people. Wild how many of the Free Ukraine crowd seems to think that right is restricted to white Europeans.
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
No genius, because the userbox is about the censorship of unpopular beliefs, not about the specific belief. You either understand this or you don’t but somebody else is going to have to explain it you if not. And if you do understand it, well consider me unimpressed with this fiftieth time of somebody purposely misconstruing what I wrote.charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:19 pmSo you don't want to name the terrorist groups you support. You mention Hezbollah but put it on someone else's lap. Look, I don't mind that you're an SPA who has only one purpose, which is to push the Palestine cause. I do find your oiliness and evasiveness repulsive.
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Colorvegan (T-C-L)'s account was registered 15 August 2023 but only started editing today (there are no edits on other wikis either). The first edit was creating a user talk page with the text "Like seriously". The second edit was creating a user page with the text "It’s so obvious".
The third edit was:
They have been indeffed by ScottishFinnishRadish as NOTHERE.
The third edit was:
Colorvegan wrote:Statement by Colorvegan
Just because someone says antisemitic things doesn’t mean they’re antisemitic. Just like just because the contribs of a few of the editors who made statements here shows a history of always pushing for the side of the violent aggressors in the I/P conflict doesn’t mean they’re POV pushing. Nishidani did nothing wrong. Cheers.Colorvegan (talk) 21:23, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
They have been indeffed by ScottishFinnishRadish as NOTHERE.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
You best be careful, "Charlie".charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:19 pmSo you don't want to name the terrorist groups you support. You mention Hezbollah but put it on someone else's lap. Look, I don't mind that you're an SPA who has only one purpose, which is to push the Palestine cause. I do find your oiliness and evasiveness repulsive.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
you can skim the IP edits if you wanttarantino wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:42 pmYou need to dial it down, or else tell us who you are on wikipedia so we can judge you too.Starship Enterprise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:01 pmlol are you still pretending you do anything on wiki other than shill for Palestine
no one is buying it. the shilling isn't even that bad, but this playacting as a neutral party makes you look so sketchy
people who use wiki to fight their little race wars don't deserve respect
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
Hey we're just having a chat among friends. Good friends! And if you go back and look, you can see that I was discussing a post by SFR, minding my own business you might say, when Nableezy took umbrage and started insulting. Just go up and look. Not many messages past. So he wanted a conversation and he got one.tarantino wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:52 pmYou best be careful, "Charlie".charliemouse wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:19 pmSo you don't want to name the terrorist groups you support. You mention Hezbollah but put it on someone else's lap. Look, I don't mind that you're an SPA who has only one purpose, which is to push the Palestine cause. I do find your oiliness and evasiveness repulsive.
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Israel Palestine wikiwarriors
So many users who edit with Israel Palestine are only there to wage their little war and don't care about being good wiki editors
Israel has its little warriors like Gidonb, Mistamystery, SPECIFICO, TaBaZzz, Ar2332, My very best wishes, BilledMammal, Zanahary, Alaexis, Homerethegreat, Eladkarmel, Longhornsg, Coretheapple, Marokwitz and Drsmoo
Palestine has its little warriors like CarmenEsparzaAmoux, Selfstudier, Trilletrollet, Vice regent, Makeandtoss, WeatherWriter, Kashmiri, WillowCity, C.J. Griffin, Nableezy, Iskandar323, Mhhossein, Nishidani, Onceinawhile and Bastun
Who else am I forgetting? Will the rest of the site ever be able to chase these guys out so they can stop being problems making it harder for real encyclopedia writers to write
Israel has its little warriors like Gidonb, Mistamystery, SPECIFICO, TaBaZzz, Ar2332, My very best wishes, BilledMammal, Zanahary, Alaexis, Homerethegreat, Eladkarmel, Longhornsg, Coretheapple, Marokwitz and Drsmoo
Palestine has its little warriors like CarmenEsparzaAmoux, Selfstudier, Trilletrollet, Vice regent, Makeandtoss, WeatherWriter, Kashmiri, WillowCity, C.J. Griffin, Nableezy, Iskandar323, Mhhossein, Nishidani, Onceinawhile and Bastun
Who else am I forgetting? Will the rest of the site ever be able to chase these guys out so they can stop being problems making it harder for real encyclopedia writers to write
Re: Israel Palestine wikiwarriors
Can a mod split off all the bs from the Drsmoo thread to this so we can combine the bs?
Re: Israel Palestine wikiwarriors
I smell oversimplification ( I know, I said simp).
I stay out of the topic area because I despise this kind of post, but I know some of those names from other areas
So apparently they aren't as fixated as Starship seems to think.
I stay out of the topic area because I despise this kind of post, but I know some of those names from other areas
So apparently they aren't as fixated as Starship seems to think.
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Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
I would have never thought one of the many pro-Israel POV-pushers on Wikipedia would do such a thing as be dishonest. Truly shocking. And off-topic political PvP at my beautiful wikicriticism site? Such a thing has never been seen!
Re: Israel Palestine wikiwarriors
Israel-Palestine is an old enough issue that at least some of it has to be included in Wikipedia even if there was a shift against covering recent events based on recent news. An editor who knows the area well enough to write about it but remains completely neutral does not exist. Wikipedia has done well enough given the circumstances, by removing the worst actors time to time and giving occassional breaks to the most passionate ones to keep everyone on their toes, but maintain balance of strength on both sides.
Actually, kudos to admins for understanding what's up. One side has editors who think they're fighting for the very existence of their people, and has the backing of the most powerful forces of the current world order. The other side is actually fighting for the very existence of their people. These are not silly disputes. What Wikipedia says matters. It may have a non-insignificant impact on whether one more people disappear from the face of the earth. It's understandable anyone working in that area, training their muscles to smile at whom they identify as agents of destruction of their entire people, sometimes loses their cool.
Actually, kudos to admins for understanding what's up. One side has editors who think they're fighting for the very existence of their people, and has the backing of the most powerful forces of the current world order. The other side is actually fighting for the very existence of their people. These are not silly disputes. What Wikipedia says matters. It may have a non-insignificant impact on whether one more people disappear from the face of the earth. It's understandable anyone working in that area, training their muscles to smile at whom they identify as agents of destruction of their entire people, sometimes loses their cool.
Re: Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo
It's pretty ugly alright.
Re: Israel Palestine wikiwarriors
This is true. However regardless of everything else the profiling is over the top, and the homoerotic/homophobic slurs are.... unnecessary. Which certain parties may also think is true of some of my remarks, I realize, but my accusations were factual not sexual. I mean geez.utbc wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:04 amIsrael-Palestine is an old enough issue that at least some of it has to be included in Wikipedia even if there was a shift against covering recent events based on recent news. An editor who knows the area well enough to write about it but remains completely neutral does not exist. Wikipedia has done well enough given the circumstances, by removing the worst actors time to time and giving occassional breaks to the most passionate ones to keep everyone on their toes, but maintain balance of strength on both sides.
Actually, kudos to admins for understanding what's up. One side has editors who think they're fighting for the very existence of their people, and has the backing of the most powerful forces of the current world order. The other side is actually fighting for the very existence of their people. These are not silly disputes. What Wikipedia says matters. It may have a non-insignificant impact on whether one more people disappear from the face of the earth. It's understandable anyone working in that area, training their muscles to smile at whom they identify as agents of destruction of their entire people, sometimes loses their cool.
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You talkin' to me? I am lost.Elinruby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:31 amThis is true. However regardless of everything else the profiling is over the top, and the homoerotic/homophobic slurs are.... unnecessary. Which certain parties may also think is true of some of my remarks, I realize, but my accusations were factual not sexual. I mean geez.utbc wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:04 amIsrael-Palestine is an old enough issue that at least some of it has to be included in Wikipedia even if there was a shift against covering recent events based on recent news. An editor who knows the area well enough to write about it but remains completely neutral does not exist. Wikipedia has done well enough given the circumstances, by removing the worst actors time to time and giving occassional breaks to the most passionate ones to keep everyone on their toes, but maintain balance of strength on both sides.
Actually, kudos to admins for understanding what's up. One side has editors who think they're fighting for the very existence of their people, and has the backing of the most powerful forces of the current world order. The other side is actually fighting for the very existence of their people. These are not silly disputes. What Wikipedia says matters. It may have a non-insignificant impact on whether one more people disappear from the face of the earth. It's understandable anyone working in that area, training their muscles to smile at whom they identify as agents of destruction of their entire people, sometimes loses their cool.
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I was agreeing with you. That was well stated btw.utbc wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:36 amYou talkin' to me? I am lost.Elinruby wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:31 amThis is true. However regardless of everything else the profiling is over the top, and the homoerotic/homophobic slurs are.... unnecessary. Which certain parties may also think is true of some of my remarks, I realize, but my accusations were factual not sexual. I mean geez.utbc wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:04 amIsrael-Palestine is an old enough issue that at least some of it has to be included in Wikipedia even if there was a shift against covering recent events based on recent news. An editor who knows the area well enough to write about it but remains completely neutral does not exist. Wikipedia has done well enough given the circumstances, by removing the worst actors time to time and giving occassional breaks to the most passionate ones to keep everyone on their toes, but maintain balance of strength on both sides.
Actually, kudos to admins for understanding what's up. One side has editors who think they're fighting for the very existence of their people, and has the backing of the most powerful forces of the current world order. The other side is actually fighting for the very existence of their people. These are not silly disputes. What Wikipedia says matters. It may have a non-insignificant impact on whether one more people disappear from the face of the earth. It's understandable anyone working in that area, training their muscles to smile at whom they identify as agents of destruction of their entire people, sometimes loses their cool.
But I was saying that even so it's over the top. Some of what I am talking about about anticipated stuff being moved here from "Yet more bad faith allegations by pro-Israel POV pusher Drsmoo", though, which hasn't happened and apparently may not, so no wonder you are confused. My bad.