nableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:29 pm
He almost certainly is an Israeli citizen unless he gained some other citizenship and renounced his Israeli citizenship.
Almost certainly is a huge leap given the guy lives in New York and sees Isreal as an oppressor of the Palestinian nation.
nableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:29 pm
But mistaking Alex for Adam is careless, not malicious.
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I re-state the very obvious fact that mistaking Alex Bakri for Adam Bakri is just a careless mistake and not done with any maliciousness.
There are more potential explanations than just careless or malicious. There is no malice in going so quickly you miss the coincidence here. But in context, it's way more than careless. It's negligent.
nableezy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:29 pm
And because of that, it would be better, imo, to accept somebody's taking responsibility for their carelessness rather than berate them and question their motives for it. But thats just me.
I have no confidence the mistake wouldn't be repeated because there probably isn't any real understanding here.
I don't think the guy has any idea that in its current form, even after he removed his error, having a Wikipedia biography that merely states the fact they are a Palestinian actor from a Palestinian family who was born, raised and educated in Isreal, and leaves it at that, is deeply irresponsible.
And this is what happens after there are already multiple sources on the talk page, all because the subject has raised a stink about their own biography multiple times, and literally quotes the chapter and verse of the BLP policy in some misguided hope Wikipedia editors care about doing no harm.
This is Wikipedia in a nutshell. The guy says he is Palestinian. Tells Wikipedia multiple times. Provides sources. Doesn't lose his cool even though it seems like some random a-hole is deliberately citing an archived version of a source.
And yet the Wikipedians still work strangely hard to somehow disprove it, right down to this guy not just finding the wrong source, but then not adding what the source actually says anyway.
I raised it as an issue because I thought it was bizarre to see, on an official Wikipedia noticeboard dedicated to BLP issues, someone reducing this matter to a simple proposition. "Are you or are you not an Israeli citizen?".
What the hell is he doing even asking? Was he going to keep the citizenship claim in there on the say so of someone who hasn't even proven they are the subject?
We saw what they did, and now we can see why they did it. What their focus was. And that this approach, this blind following of the RS factoid dogma, allowed him to resolve this problem with enough apparent haste they didn't even realise their mistake.
I can't speak to what was going on in their mind, but this is not a game. Care is not optional.
This man has absolutely no say in how Wikipedia portrays him, and for some messed up reason, Wikipedia editors often take an almost perverse glee in having that power.
With great power.....