The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

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The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Alexbrn » Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:31 am

Here we go again, an obsessive bra article with a load of dodgy health content and strange obsession with pain (among other things):

* Bralessness (T-H-L)

It's pretty hard to find content in this article which isn't cringe-making. I despair, I really do ...

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by FelinaLavandula » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:59 am

And photos, of course…

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by The Garbage Scow » Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:29 pm

Originally started as a draft in 2016 by Btphelps (T-C-L) under a totally different topic. In 2018, it was overwritten to be primarily about an anti-bra feminist movement in the San Francisco area and related stories.

It's definitely a notable topic but disappointing that it changed from an article primarily about a feminist movement into something more... gratuitous. Btphelps hasn't touched it since June 2020, by which point it looked more like it does today.

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by MrErnie » Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:14 am

Not enough pictures. Surely there’s a Commons category or two that could be dumped in there.

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Randy from Boise » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:42 pm

Alexbrn wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:31 am
Here we go again, an obsessive bra article with a load of dodgy health content and strange obsession with pain (among other things):

* Bralessness (T-H-L)

It's pretty hard to find content in this article which isn't cringe-making. I despair, I really do ...
That's a long-ass article. Clearly it elicits passionate editors...

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:43 pm

Randy from Boise wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:42 pm
Alexbrn wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:31 am
Here we go again, an obsessive bra article with a load of dodgy health content and strange obsession with pain (among other things):

* Bralessness (T-H-L)

It's pretty hard to find content in this article which isn't cringe-making. I despair, I really do ...
That's a long-ass article. Clearly it elicits passionate editors...

t
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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:57 pm

The article author's earliest contributions.

Btphelps (T-C-L)
17:56, 19 July 2004 diff hist 0‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:56, 19 July 2004 diff hist +3‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:55, 19 July 2004 diff hist −29‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:51, 19 July 2004 diff hist +54‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:37, 19 July 2004 diff hist +93‎ m Bra ‎ →‎External links
2 July 2004
04:03, 2 July 2004 diff hist −4‎ m Bra ‎ →‎History
04:02, 2 July 2004 diff hist +1‎ m Bra ‎ →‎History
04:00, 2 July 2004 diff hist +951‎ Bra ‎ →‎Brassieres And Breast Sagging
03:19, 2 July 2004 diff hist −1‎ m Bra ‎ →‎History
03:18, 2 July 2004 diff hist +248‎ Bra ‎ →‎History
17 March 2004
23:14, 17 March 2004 diff hist +315‎ N User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:59 pm

Hello, John. John, hello. You're the one soul I would come up here to collect myself.

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Ron Lybonly » Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:00 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:57 pm
The article author's earliest contributions.

Btphelps (T-C-L)
17:56, 19 July 2004 diff hist 0‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:56, 19 July 2004 diff hist +3‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:55, 19 July 2004 diff hist −29‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:51, 19 July 2004 diff hist +54‎ m User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
17:37, 19 July 2004 diff hist +93‎ m Bra ‎ →‎External links
2 July 2004
04:03, 2 July 2004 diff hist −4‎ m Bra ‎ →‎History
04:02, 2 July 2004 diff hist +1‎ m Bra ‎ →‎History
04:00, 2 July 2004 diff hist +951‎ Bra ‎ →‎Brassieres And Breast Sagging
03:19, 2 July 2004 diff hist −1‎ m Bra ‎ →‎History
03:18, 2 July 2004 diff hist +248‎ Bra ‎ →‎History
17 March 2004
23:14, 17 March 2004 diff hist +315‎ N User:Btphelps ‎No edit summary
(newest | oldest) View (newer 50 | older 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)
"Mary Phelps Jacob, who patented the brassiere, is a distant cousin."

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:05 am

Didn't seem worth starting a new topic, but I happened to check in on Btphelps and saw that he was deadnaming a relative of his:
In 1978 he married musician Mary Ann O'Connor, with whom he had a daughter Alanna, who transitioned to Jason.
I guess Btphelps was possibly related to Alan Raph (T-H-L):
Picture of Alan Raph

Hi Jason, I'm so sorry to learn of Alan's passing. He sent me a CD of the Danbury Brass Band earlier this year. If you would like to add his picture or more details to his article, please click on my signature and contact me. I am Jane Beasley and Ted Raph's nephew. Regards, — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 20:07, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
You'll never guess who started Ted Raph (T-H-L).

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Re: The bra-men of Wikipedia are back (again)

Unread post by The Blue Newt » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:28 am

Giraffe Stapler wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:05 am
Didn't seem worth starting a new topic, but I happened to check in on Btphelps and saw that he was deadnaming a relative of his:
In 1978 he married musician Mary Ann O'Connor, with whom he had a daughter Alanna, who transitioned to Jason.
I guess Btphelps was possibly related to Alan Raph (T-H-L):
Picture of Alan Raph

Hi Jason, I'm so sorry to learn of Alan's passing. He sent me a CD of the Danbury Brass Band earlier this year. If you would like to add his picture or more details to his article, please click on my signature and contact me. I am Jane Beasley and Ted Raph's nephew. Regards, — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 20:07, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
You'll never guess who started Ted Raph (T-H-L).
Note it contains “His father's surname was changed by immigration authorities during registration when he entered the U.S.,” always a hallmark of sound scholarship.

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