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Unread post by rnu » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:06 pm

AN wrote:DYK at 2-a-day

WP:DYK has moved to 2-sets-a-day, which means we will need more admin to help promote preps to queues. Admin instructions are located at WP:DYKAI, and I recommend installing WP:PSHAW, which automates many of the technical steps. Any help with is appreciated, and questions can be asked at WT:DYK. Z1720 (talk) 03:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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Unread post by rnu » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:45 pm

DYK ...
... that the first known NBA player with sickle cell disease (pictured) once nearly died of a sickle cell crisis after a flight to a game?
NBA player you say? Hm, let's see what the article has to say on the matter:
On April 2, 2019, the New York Knicks announced that they had signed Garrett to a 10-day contract.[73] The Knicks roster was beset with numerous injuries (Kadeem Allen (concussion), Isaiah Hicks (sore left hip), Dennis Smith Jr. (sore lower back), Allonzo Trier (strained left calf) and Noah Vonleh (sprained right ankle)),[74] and Garrett's G League season had just come to an end.[75]
He played four games in the NBA. He has also played professional basketball in France, Greece, Poland, Germany and Spain. But those four games in the NBA. That's the important part. The longest section of the article is the one about his High School "career", followed by his college "career". His professional career has the shortest of the three sections and mostly deals with his not particularly successful stints in the USA, reducing his international career to mere mentions of his transfers. And his career statistics section consists of his four NBA games. I guess he didn't play any games for all the other teams he was on in his seven years as a professional athlete.
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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:33 am

Today’s Daily Disgrace, Dead o’ the Day section features Emmett Walsh (T-H-L), whose article was disfigured by 7&6=thirteen (T-C-L) with this diff.

Compare that with the source.

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The Blue Newt wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:33 am
Today’s Daily Disgrace, Dead o’ the Day section features Emmett Walsh (T-H-L), whose article was disfigured by 7&6=thirteen (T-C-L) with this diff.

Compare that with the source.
M. Emmet Walsh (T-H-L), that should be. Bill Clinton (T-H-L), but M. Emmet Walsh (T-H-L). Go figure.

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Unread post by rnu » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:27 pm

DYK ...
... that Prince Hubertus is the heir apparent to the head of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, a royal dynasty to which Elizabeth II belonged?
The article lead:
Hubertus, Hereditary Prince Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Hereditary Duke of Saxony (Hubertus Michael Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha; born 16 September 1975), is a German nobleman who is the heir apparent to head of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha since 1998.
Did you know that Germany abolished nobility in 1919 and therefore this is obvious bullshit?
Unlike Austria which completely banned all use of former titles of nobility*, in Germany the former titles were turned into parts of the last name. That's why the full name is "Hubertus Michael Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha" where "Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha" is the last name. Before the abolishment of nobility it would have been "Prinz Hubertus Michael von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha". People like him are still sometimes addressed as "Prinz Hubertus", but that is technically wrong and just a form of (questionable) politeness.

* Herbert von Karajan (T-H-L) received special dispensation to use "von" in his name after he threatened never to perform in Austria again unless he was allowed to use it. There was a small controversy when Alexander Van der Bellen (T-H-L) was elected Austrian president. But he argued that in his case the "van der" was not a sign of nobility but part of an origin name.
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Unread post by Dan of La Mancha » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:12 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:33 am
Today’s Daily Disgrace, Dead o’ the Day section features Emmett Walsh (T-H-L), whose article was disfigured by 7&6=thirteen (T-C-L) with this diff.
I'm getting flashbacks to my high-school English Literature classes.
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Unread post by Dan of La Mancha » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:34 pm

Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell (T-H-L)
A public incident report given to reporters by the Metropolitan Police Department states that Bushnell was "exhibiting signs of mental distress"—namely that he had "doused himself with an unidentified liquid and set himself on fire"—before the Secret Service could reach him.
What? Exhibiting signs of mental distress—namely that he had set himself on fire?! Of course the police report doesn't say that. It says:
On the specified date, time, and location, a unit from the Secret Service Uniformed Division received a distress call regarding an individual exhibiting signs of mental distress outside the Israeli embassy. Before the Secret Service officers could engage, the individual, referred to as Subject-1 (SUB-1), doused himself with an unidentified liquid and set himself on fire.
The temporal sequence isn't hard to follow.

Also, I wish DYK wouldn't keep putting I/P polemic on the front page of a supposedly neutral encyclopedia.
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Unread post by Ming » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:11 pm

rnu wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:27 pm
DYK ...
... that Prince Hubertus is the heir apparent to the head of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, a royal dynasty to which Elizabeth II belonged?
The article lead:
Hubertus, Hereditary Prince Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Hereditary Duke of Saxony (Hubertus Michael Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha; born 16 September 1975), is a German nobleman who is the heir apparent to head of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha since 1998.
Did you know that Germany abolished nobility in 1919 and therefore this is obvious bullshit?
Ming saw this one and was considering remarking on it. There was a cleanup of various fringe royals and pretenders a few years back, but of course it doesn't help if people keep making new ones. Given that this fellow seems to have no notability beyond being a fake noble, an AfD is tempting....

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Unread post by redbaron » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:32 pm

Ming wrote:
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an AfD is tempting....
Ask and ye shall receive...

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Unread post by rnu » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:07 pm

OTD
1942 – Second World War: The port of Saint-Nazaire in German-occupied France was disabled by British naval forces (ship pictured).
I did not know that ports can be disabled. Destroyed, damaged, rendered inoperative sure. But disabled?
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Unread post by rnu » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:48 pm

DYK ...
... that Institutiones rei herbariae (T-H-L), published in 1700, sought to give a unique name to every plant based on their "essence"?
From the article:
However, some 18th-century naturalists, following the principles of John Locke, argued against the nominalism of Tournefort.[6] Where Tournefort argued that the "essence of the plant" could be tied to specific and generic names, botanists like Georges-Louis Leclerc and Jean-Baptiste Lamarck did not believe an organized science should be burdened by arbitrary nominal distinctions.[8]
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
A botanist who wants to name plants according to their essence is a nominalist?
Naming plants according to their essence is "burdened by arbitrary nominal distinctions"?
John Locke arguing against nominalism?
Bullshit!
Bullshit!
Bullshit, slander, heresy!
Let's look at the source:
Callot, Émile (1965). "Système et méthode dans l'histoire de la botanique" wrote:Bref, à un nom désignant une plante doit correspondre une seule espèce, et chaque espèce doit être indiquée par son signe particulier. Le nom est le symbole d'une chose réelle et non un pur artifice de langage : ainsi, dès le début, est affirmé le principe réaliste de la connaissance et écarté le nominalisme dont, sous l'influence de Locke, les naturalistes du xviiie siècle (Buffon, puis Lamarck) feront un argument contre la classification sans s'apercevoir que de cette manière ils retiraient à l'Histoire naturelle toute base solide et toute valeur cognitive.
Translation wrote:In short, a name designating a plant must correspond to a single species, and each species must be indicated by its particular sign. The name is the symbol of a real thing and not a pure artifice of language: thus, from the beginning, the realistic principle of knowledge is affirmed and dismissed the nominalism which, under the influence of Locke, the naturalists of the 18th century (Buffon, then Lamarck) will make an argument against classification without realizing that in this way they were removing any solid basis and any cognitive value from Natural History.
So, pretty much the exact opposite of the bullshit Wikipedia is peddling. :facepalm:
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Unread post by rnu » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:39 pm

DYK ...
... that Andrew Dakich (T-H-L) received an athletic scholarship while under police escort?
:thinking:
From the article:
For the second semester of the 2016–17 Michigan Wolverines season, Dakich was elevated from walk-on to scholarship athlete via an elaborate prank in which the campus police interrupted a team meeting to escort him under police custody to sign his scholarship paperwork.[39][40]
Neither of the sources mentions him actually being escorted to the office. Nevertheless:
According to MOS:SANDWICH, we do. Those images were too tight together and Dakich isn't in it. The article says the meeting was interrupted by campus police, not that he was "under police escort". – Muboshgu (talk) 04:09, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
WaPo uses the word escort.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
I'll take your word on that since WaPo is behind a paywall. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Yes, it uses the word:
"Andrew . . . Andrew Dakich?" one officer asked, waiting for the player to be pointed out.
"It’s come to our attention your conduct on campus as related to a number of investigations, your involvement in such matters that require your immediate presence in front of the university compliance office . . .," the officer said, while Dakich leaned in incredulously. "Please grab your hat and coat and you’ll be escorted to the compliance office."
No, it does not say that it actually happened, only that a campus police officer said it as part of a prank.
The article also includes this gem:
The Dakiches were neighbors with Urban Meyer the year that he coached Bowling Green Falcons football, and Dakich was a regular playmate of Meyer's daughter.[6]
Dakich was a not particularly successful college basketball player. He received the scholarship because the team kept a slot open in the hopes of finding a star player at the last minute. That didn't happen so they gave the scholarship to Dakich who was a non-scholarship player until then. Apart from how no top team really wanted him we also learn that he couldn't join one team because he wasn't accepted as a student at the university. He is now an assistant coach for a college basketball team. A pro career as player seems never to have been in the cards.
So why do we have this article? TonyTheTiger (T-C-L) is currently spamming all vanity projects to win the WikiCup. (ANI discussion / permanent)
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Unread post by Randy from Boise » Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:27 pm

Son of Dan Dakich (T-H-L) , an insufferable, big-mouthed, right-wing but provocative and highly entertaining sports talk radio personality from Indiana.

I see that Dan doesn't have a photo for his WP article. I've been working on an Indy podcaster to start uploading screen grabs of his interviews of Colts players to WP... Maybe that will be the little push that gets him actually rolling since he and DD are buddies.

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P.S. Holy crap, that Andrew Dakich (T-H-L) piece is wildly over-the-top for a second-tier (third-tier?) college player who became an assistant coach. Say what you will about my Mike Bettiga piece, at least he played in the pros... Maybe it was an attempt to make the same point I did: that passable sourced sports biography can be generated around anybody who plays major American sports at a very high level and garners coverage related to that......so they're all notable, so fuck off deletionists...

But it's probably related in some way to his semi-famous father, who is sort of a Trumpy icon to some people.

P.P.S. Heard a bit of Dan Dakich interview on a nationally syndicated sports talk show on Fox Sports radio this week. Doug Gottlieb (T-H-L), I think.

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DYK ...
... that a massive smallpox epidemic struck the Pacific Northwest shortly before historical records were kept?
Nice hook. I'm kind of impressed how it manages to implicitly dismiss native oral traditions (those savages didn't even keep historical records!) and gloss over the fact that the epidemic was caused by a Spanish expedition and lead to a demographic collapse among the natives all in one short sentence.
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Unread post by rnu » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:55 pm

DYK ...
... that during the rollout of her album Can You See Me?, Rezz released a sex toy?
A female artist? How can we make this about sex? Oh goody:
As part of the album's rollout, Rezz announced the release of a sex toy dubbed the "Erotic HypnoDildo".[15] Having originated as a joke amongst fans of Rezz on Twitter, the toy was released ahead of the album's title track and reportedly sold out in under 30 minutes.[16]
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Unread post by rnu » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:01 pm

From today's featured article Lou Henry Hoover (T-H-L) blurb:
Her invitation of Jessie De Priest to the White House for tea was controversial in the South.
Or for those who don't want to follow the wiki-links to see what this is about:
By not excluding the (black) wife of the only black congressman from the traditional tea for the wives of all congressmen she pissed off the racists.
I mean potato, potahto, right?
Relevant article: Jessie De Priest tea at the White House (T-H-L)
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Unread post by Ming » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:07 pm

rnu wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:01 pm
From today's featured article Lou Henry Hoover (T-H-L) blurb:
Her invitation of Jessie De Priest to the White House for tea was controversial in the South.
Or for those who don't want to follow the wiki-links to see what this is about:
By not excluding the (black) wife of the only black congressman from the traditional tea for the wives of all congressmen she pissed off the racists.
I mean potato, potahto, right?
Relevant article: Jessie De Priest tea at the White House (T-H-L)
Great sentence from the article: "she was the first woman to make radio broadcasts as first lady." As opposed to, say, the first chimpanzee.

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Unread post by The Blue Newt » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:33 pm

Ming wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:07 pm
rnu wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:01 pm
From today's featured article Lou Henry Hoover (T-H-L) blurb:
Her invitation of Jessie De Priest to the White House for tea was controversial in the South.
Or for those who don't want to follow the wiki-links to see what this is about:
By not excluding the (black) wife of the only black congressman from the traditional tea for the wives of all congressmen she pissed off the racists.
I mean potato, potahto, right?
Relevant article: Jessie De Priest tea at the White House (T-H-L)
Great sentence from the article: "she was the first woman to make radio broadcasts as first lady." As opposed to, say, the first chimpanzee.
Looks like a(n awkward) workaround to avoid saying “first first lady,” which actually would not be a problem except for Wikipedia’s diCkLicaTiOn by the MOS Myrmidons. A real encyclopedia could use “the first First Lady” with fewer problems.

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Unread post by rnu » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:19 pm

DYK ...
... that Angelle's debut single was promoted with an entire television channel – and still only reached number 43 on the UK Singles Chart?
The TV channel in question was Vibe TV. A brand new channel. The single was released in August 2002. By September the channel was gone. But sure "entire television channel" sounds more impressive than "an obscure tv channel that only existed for a few weeks". And more importantly for DYK purposes, its is more misleading.
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Unread post by PirateFood » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:30 pm

rnu, I feel like you don't understand DYK. You're supposed to be left with questions after reading a hook. The hook is supposed to be exciting. That's the whole point. You click on the article and satisfy the questions the hook raised for you.

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:38 pm

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Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:30 pm
rnu, I feel like you don't understand DYK. You're supposed to be left with questions after reading a hook. The hook is supposed to be exciting. That's the whole point. You click on the article and satisfy the questions the hook raised for you.
There is little excitement involved in seeing the DYK crowd in action. They've been producing the same drivel for years.

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Unread post by rnu » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:44 pm

PirateFood wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:30 pm
rnu, I feel like you don't understand DYK. You're supposed to be left with questions after reading a hook. The hook is supposed to be exciting. That's the whole point. You click on the article and satisfy the questions the hook raised for you.
Oh, I'm fully aware that the deliberately misleading (or misinforming as the case may be) hooks are part of the tabloidy clickbait strategy. That doesn't make them less stupid.
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PirateFood wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:30 pm
rnu, I feel like you don't understand DYK. You're supposed to be left with questions after reading a hook. The hook is supposed to be exciting. That's the whole point. You click on the article and satisfy the questions the hook raised for you.
Perhaps the question shouldn’t be “why was I stupid enough to click that?” quite so often.

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Unread post by FelinaLavandula » Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:43 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:45 pm
PirateFood wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:30 pm
rnu, I feel like you don't understand DYK. You're supposed to be left with questions after reading a hook. The hook is supposed to be exciting. That's the whole point. You click on the article and satisfy the questions the hook raised for you.
Perhaps the question shouldn’t be “why was I stupid enough to click that?” quite so often.
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DYK ...
... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future?
OK this is technically just extremely misleading, but since the overwhelming proportion of people will misunderstand it it is just dangerous scientific misinformation. This is PROFRINGE to the max.
Sure it would be a way to "communicate with the future" in the sense in which writing things down is "communicating with the future". It is a way of storing information so it can be retrieved in the future. The idea is to genetically manipulate cats so they change color based on the level of radioactivity. So they could be used as "living Geiger counters" to warn future generations of the presence of radioactive waste.
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rnu wrote:
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DYK ...
... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future?
OK this is technically just extremely misleading, but since the overwhelming proportion of people will misunderstand it it is just dangerous scientific misinformation. This is PROFRINGE to the max.
Sure it would be a way to "communicate with the future" in the sense in which writing things down is "communicating with the future". It is a way of storing information so it can be retrieved in the future. The idea is to genetically manipulate cats so they change color based on the level of radioactivity. So they could be used as "living Geiger counters" to warn future generations of the presence of radioactive waste.
An utterly imbecilic DYK about an utterly imbecilic idea. Same as always...

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Unread post by Ming » Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:54 pm

The DYK Process has been broken for a very long time, largely because nobody except maybe Fram ever wanted to do it, And certainly nobody involved wanted Fram to do it, because he would actually object to false and misconstrued statements, in his usual less than polite way and then actually rude when he got pushback. Everyone else just wants to get their own entry in, so they try to do as minimal a job on the required tit-for-tat of reviewing someone else's. Ming has done something like twenty over the years, and every time Ming comes back, the review requirements get more elaborate, but the one thing they can't do is actually force people to do a good job of the most important parts, or maybe, like a lot of authors (Ming has decided to junk the falsehood of "editors"), they are illiterate and can't read the sources. It wouldn't actually a bad idea to block people for a week for submitting OR approving an inaccurate hook.

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AndyTheGrump wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:26 pm
rnu wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:12 pm
DYK ...
... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future?
OK this is technically just extremely misleading, but since the overwhelming proportion of people will misunderstand it it is just dangerous scientific misinformation. This is PROFRINGE to the max.
Sure it would be a way to "communicate with the future" in the sense in which writing things down is "communicating with the future". It is a way of storing information so it can be retrieved in the future. The idea is to genetically manipulate cats so they change color based on the level of radioactivity. So they could be used as "living Geiger counters" to warn future generations of the presence of radioactive waste.
An utterly imbecilic DYK about an utterly imbecilic idea. Same as always...
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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:30 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:26 pm
AndyTheGrump wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:26 pm
rnu wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:12 pm
DYK ...
... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future?
OK this is technically just extremely misleading, but since the overwhelming proportion of people will misunderstand it it is just dangerous scientific misinformation. This is PROFRINGE to the max.
Sure it would be a way to "communicate with the future" in the sense in which writing things down is "communicating with the future". It is a way of storing information so it can be retrieved in the future. The idea is to genetically manipulate cats so they change color based on the level of radioactivity. So they could be used as "living Geiger counters" to warn future generations of the presence of radioactive waste.
An utterly imbecilic DYK about an utterly imbecilic idea. Same as always...
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Unread post by rnu » Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:09 am

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First sentence of the blurb wrote:Morgan Bulkeley (T-H-L) (1837–1922) was an American politician and business executive from Connecticut, who was, in 1876, the first president of baseball's National League.
First paragraph of the article wrote:Morgan Gardner Bulkeley (December 26, 1837 – November 6, 1922) was an American politician of the Republican Party, businessman, and insurance executive. In 1876, he served as the first president of baseball's National League and because of that, was inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 1937, a choice that remains controversial, since his time as a baseball executive was short.
The man was Mayor of Hartford, Connecticut (T-H-L) for 8 years (4 terms), Governor of Connecticut (T-H-L) for 4 years (2 terms), US Senator from Connecticut for 6 years (1 term) and president of Aetna Life Insurance Company for 43 years. But for Wikipedia the most important thing is that he was president of the National League of Professional Baseball Clubs (T-H-L) from 2 February 1876 to 7 December 1876:
He served one season, though most work was done by Chicago White Stockings owner William Hulbert.
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DYK ...
... that some fans of Genshin Impact have referred to the character Paimon as "emergency food"?
Did you know that she is referred to this way in the game?
Kotaku wrote:But Paimon also takes plenty of shit too, largely because of a running joke that the internet has transformed into Genshin’s most pervasive meme. Near the beginning of the game, the first party member you meet, Amber, asks what the deal is with your “mascot.” You can reply by saying either “We’re friends” or “Emergency food.” If you pick the latter, an enraged Paimon shouts that it’s “even worse than being a mascot.” This is a legitimately funny scene, which surprised me, because I came into Genshin Impact expecting a lot of self-serious anime monologuing. The joke persists throughout the game, with other characters asking if Paimon is “edible” or “some kind of food.” She rarely takes this lying down.
That lends an extra layer of sexism and creepiness to the usual anime fare:
Kotaku wrote:That said, characters in the mold of “small girl who speaks in baby talk but is actually 10,000 years old for reasons that tend to have thorny implications” made me hesitant to ever resume that particular hobby.
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Do You Kare that that Waluigi inspired the name of a phenomenon in artificial intelligence known as the Waluigi effect?

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... that in one year, a team of Canadian All-Stars twice played against the U.S. college football national champion and came within one point of winning each game?
Did you know that winning a game of football requires scoring at least one point, which the Canada All-Stars (T-H-L) never did?

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Unread post by Dan of La Mancha » Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:13 pm

The Blue Newt wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:07 pm
Do You Kare that that Waluigi inspired the name of a phenomenon in artificial intelligence known as the Waluigi effect?
Actually, I did kare enough on this one that I clicked through to Waluigi effect (T-H-L) to learn more about it. I didn't learn more about it because the article is bewilderingly written, but still, the hook kind of worked.

More so than today's quirky:
Did you know ... that in semantics (T-H-L), antonym is an antonym of synonym while synonym is not a synonym of antonym?
Yes, I did – and I think any English speakers who don't know that are not likely to be among this article's target audience.
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Dan of La Mancha wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:13 pm
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More so than today's quirky:
Did you know ... that in semantics (T-H-L), antonym is an antonym of synonym while synonym is not a synonym of antonym?
Yes, I did – and I think any English speakers who don't know that are not likely to be among this article's target audience.
Actually, that hook made me wonder what antonyms and synonyms are outside of semantics. :dubious:
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Unread post by Dan of La Mancha » Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:34 pm

rnu wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:21 pm
Actually, that hook made me wonder what antonyms and synonyms are outside of semantics. :dubious:
"A synomynom is... cinnamon..."

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... that the anarchist Rosa Laviña (T-H-L) opened the first vegetarian restaurant in Tolosa?
I assume in the DYKer’s mind, using the Occitan “Tolosa” instead of the English “Toulouse” makes the hook more interesting, but I don’t understand the theory. Why would I want to know about the first vegetarian restaurant in a town I’ve never heard of?

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Unread post by Háčky » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:32 pm

... that WFMT classical music radio host Don Tait (T-H-L) owned such a large collection of recordings that he had to buy a house and have its floor reinforced to accommodate the weight?
This is sourced to WFMT, which is surely the most independent and unbiased source regarding WFMT classical music radio host Don Tait. It says:
Louise Frank attests that “his passion for vintage recordings was so great. I think he told me he bought a house and had to have the floors reinforced to accommodate the weight of his record collection.”

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:50 pm

Háčky wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:32 pm
... that WFMT classical music radio host Don Tait (T-H-L) owned such a large collection of recordings that he had to buy a house and have its floor reinforced to accommodate the weight?
This is sourced to WFMT, which is surely the most independent and unbiased source regarding WFMT classical music radio host Don Tait. It says:
Louise Frank attests that “his passion for vintage recordings was so great. I think he told me he bought a house and had to have the floors reinforced to accommodate the weight of his record collection.”
If the source is good enough for DYK, everything's dandy, per usual...

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Unread post by rnu » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:54 pm

DYK ...
... that Maggio di Accettura (T-H-L), a festival in Italy dedicated to the Christian martyr Saint Julian, might have pagan origins or be linked to Langobard history?
Wikipedia once again endorsing claims of sainthood and this time martyrdom on the Main Page.
Julian of Sora (T-H-L) lived in the second or maybe the fourth century. He was discovered to be Christian or maybe revealed that he was Christian when he traveled to Anagni or maybe to Campania. So he was brought to Sora or maybe Atina. He was imprisoned and later condemned to be executed by the governor Flavian or maybe by Dacian. He died under the rule of Antoninus Pius or maybe under the rule of Marcus Aurelius. But somehow he definitely died on 27 January 161. And while he was in prison a temple collapsed. As far as I can tell most information comes from sources written in the 16h century or later. Of course you have to look at Wikipedia articles in at least three languages to get even this much "information".
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rnu wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:54 pm
DYK ...
... that Maggio di Accettura (T-H-L), a festival in Italy dedicated to the Christian martyr Saint Julian, might have pagan origins or be linked to Langobard history?
Wikipedia once again endorsing claims of sainthood and this time martyrdom on the Main Page.
Julian of Sora (T-H-L) lived in the second or maybe the fourth century. He was discovered to be Christian or maybe revealed that he was Christian when he traveled to Anagni or maybe to Campania. So he was brought to Sora or maybe Atina. He was imprisoned and later condemned to be executed by the governor Flavian or maybe by Dacian. He died under the rule of Antoninus Pius or maybe under the rule of Marcus Aurelius. But somehow he definitely died on 27 January 161. And while he was in prison a temple collapsed. As far as I can tell most information comes from sources written in the 16h century or later. Of course you have to look at Wikipedia articles in at least three languages to get even this much "information".
At least they aren't claiming that Maggio di Accettura engaged in levitation during periods of worship, like the article on Joseph of Cupertino (T-H-L) used to.

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Unread post by rnu » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:13 pm

DYK ...
... that Androsaemum androsaemum is botanically unacceptable, but Aniculus aniculus (T-H-L) is perfectly valid?
And did you know that that hook was accepted whereas
... that Androsaemum androsaemum is utterly unacceptable, but Aniculus aniculus is perfectly valid?
was rejected because it
DYK nomination wrote:plays with technical knowledge on too many levels, and is utterly confusing to the general reader even after they've read both articles.
Of course if DYK had any interest in providing information it would just say that Tautonym (T-H-L)s are used in zoological nomenclature, but not in botanical nomenclature.
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... that the Japanese version of Pokémon Crystal (T-H-L) allowed players to trade and battle over mobile networks using an adapter (pictured)?
Did you know that the game shown on the screen in the picture, although it’s titled File:Pokemon_Crystal_Mobile_System_GB.webp (T-H-L), is Mobile Trainer, not Pokémon Crystal Version?

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Unread post by Ming » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:18 pm

rnu wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:13 pm
Of course if DYK had any interest in providing information it would just say that Tautonym (T-H-L)s are used in zoological nomenclature, but not in botanical nomenclature.
If WP had any actual editors it would be a redirect to the two sentences in binomial nomenclature (T-H-L) that explain tautonyms.

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Unread post by rnu » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:53 pm

DYK ...
... that 1 + 1 = 1, according to some forms of non-Diophantine arithmetic (T-H-L)?
Whether or not you already knew that, I certainly hope you don't want to know more about this. All the article has to say on non-Diophantine arithmetic is:
Non-Diophantine arithmetics are arithmetic systems that violate traditional arithmetic intuitions and include equations like 1 + 1 = 1 and 2 + 2 = 5.[144] They can be employed to represent some real-world situations in modern physics and everyday life. For instance, the equation 1 + 1 = 1 can be used to describe the observation that if one raindrop is added to another raindrop then they do not remain two separate entities but become one.[145]
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Unread post by orangepi » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:06 pm

rnu wrote:
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DYK ...
... that 1 + 1 = 1, according to some forms of non-Diophantine arithmetic (T-H-L)?
Also according to Bargain (song) (T-H-L), by The Who.
Whether or not you already knew that, I certainly hope you don't want to know more about this.
This is another victory for the "the DYK hook must be the absolute stupidest part of the article" contingent.

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Unread post by rnu » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:13 pm

DYK ...
... that Drew Golz (T-H-L), who was Baseball Academic All-American of the Year and Soccer Academic All-American of the Year, became the first male student athlete to be named Academic All-American of the year for two sports at the same time?
Good for him. If you glance at the article you may wonder why this superstar didn't go on to a pro-career. Maybe because he won those accolades for the NCAA Division III (T-H-L) category. NCAA Division III is for colleges and universities that do not award athletic scholarships.
You may also have noticed that the hook says he was the "first male" athlete to achieve this. According to the article he is actually the first athlete of any gender. The only other person to be named Academic All-American for two sports achieved it in different years. Despite this apparently exceptional achievement that person does not have a Wikipedia article. With that information in mind it will probably not surprise you to learn that that person was a woman.
The only other previous two-sport Academic All-America of the Year award-winner had been Cynthia Capp of West Virginia Wesleyan who had been recognized in volleyball (1990) and softball (1991).
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rnu wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:13 pm
DYK ...
... that Drew Golz (T-H-L), who was Baseball Academic All-American of the Year and Soccer Academic All-American of the Year, became the first male student athlete to be named Academic All-American of the year for two sports at the same time?
Good for him. If you glance at the article you may wonder why this superstar didn't go on to a pro-career. Maybe because he won those accolades for the NCAA Division III (T-H-L) category. NCAA Division III is for colleges and universities that do not award athletic scholarships.
You may also have noticed that the hook says he was the "first male" athlete to achieve this. According to the article he is actually the first athlete of any gender. The only other person to be named Academic All-American for two sports achieved it in different years. Despite this apparently exceptional achievement that person does not have a Wikipedia article. With that information in mind it will probably not surprise you to learn that that person was a woman.
The only other previous two-sport Academic All-America of the Year award-winner had been Cynthia Capp of West Virginia Wesleyan who had been recognized in volleyball (1990) and softball (1991).
Golz's article is only a month old (like most DYKs), so, honestly, this seems less like a gender bias issue and more like no editors care about this achievement.
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Unread post by rnu » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:42 pm

Jester wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:21 pm
rnu wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:13 pm
DYK ...
... that Drew Golz (T-H-L), who was Baseball Academic All-American of the Year and Soccer Academic All-American of the Year, became the first male student athlete to be named Academic All-American of the year for two sports at the same time?
Good for him. If you glance at the article you may wonder why this superstar didn't go on to a pro-career. Maybe because he won those accolades for the NCAA Division III (T-H-L) category. NCAA Division III is for colleges and universities that do not award athletic scholarships.
You may also have noticed that the hook says he was the "first male" athlete to achieve this. According to the article he is actually the first athlete of any gender. The only other person to be named Academic All-American for two sports achieved it in different years. Despite this apparently exceptional achievement that person does not have a Wikipedia article. With that information in mind it will probably not surprise you to learn that that person was a woman.
The only other previous two-sport Academic All-America of the Year award-winner had been Cynthia Capp of West Virginia Wesleyan who had been recognized in volleyball (1990) and softball (1991).
Golz's article is only a month old (like most DYKs), so, honestly, this seems less like a gender bias issue and more like no editors care about this achievement.
It is part of TonyTheTiger (T-H-L)'s Wikicup spam. So I guess you're right. This article doesn't exist because anyone cares, but because TTT needed a fix.
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Unread post by Jester » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:24 pm

Anyone able to find a source for the claim that Bittersweet Goodbye samples a sped-up version of Andrew Oldham Symphony's Bitter Sweet Symphony besides the blog by David Simkins (T-H-L)? I question whether that's an RS, let alone a source for a statement on the main page.
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