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Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:46 pm

https://talktotransformer.com/

For the past couple of days, I've been playing around with "Talk to Transformer", a neural network which generates coherent paragraphs of text one word at a time. Although this is a somewhat dumbed-down version, the app routinely produces uncannily verisimilar predictions, accurately mimicking the style of the input, be it poetry, song-titles, book reviews, etc..

An example from "Bryn Mawr Classical Review" with the input in bold:
De Jonge first addresses a general question (ch. 2), which is what language itself means to Dionysius (e.g., his views on the parts of language and on how words relate to things). As he cautions, most statements that scholars have taken to speak to a philosophy of language are embedded in Dionysius' rhetorical discussions, and thus may not generalize well or be easily combined to outline an overall theory. One of the great benefits of de Jonge's approach to Dionysius is that it heightens awareness of the extent of Dionysius' scholarly exposure and the adept ways in which he handles his source materials. His emphasis on understanding vernacular languages suggests that his views have had considerable influence on subsequent philosophers.

On the other hand, some have argued that de Jonge fails to articulate a proper understanding of the nature of language, and fails to account for the connections among language and being-that-is or beyond which the various senses of what we call language operate. In response, he argues, the concept of language and its connections has only been properly clarified by other disciplines, such as those of art and architecture that deal with what he terms "the 'underly things' of nature".

[First attempt]
One may need to give it a few spins, but the output regularly appears convincing enough to fool all but scholars of one's chosen subject. Even in my specialist areas, it has created books and authors that sound so plausible, I've often had to double-check whether a reference actually exists.
Maehly, Jakob Achilles (1868). Richard Bentley, eine Biographie. Leipzig.
Monk, James Henry (1833). The Life of Richard Bentley, D.D. London: J. G. & F. Rivington. Retrieved on 23 February 2008.
Sandys, John Edwin (1908). A History of Classical Scholarship Vol. II

Smith, Robert T. (1899). J.A.E.R.V.A., A Handbook for the Classical Reader Vol. V.
Smith, R.T. (1959). The History of Art Studies, Vol. I, Second Series The British Journal of International Studies, Volume 7, No. 1. Edinburgh.
St. Joseph, Martin (1882). On History and the Arts.
Stumpf, Henry (1879). A History of English Literature Vol. I. Leiden.
Stern, George (1921). A Theory of the Historical Process in Early Modern and...
Talk to Transformer will even create works in wiki-markup. (Only occasionally error-free, however.)
* {{cite book |last=Maehly |first=Jakob Achilles |title=Richard Bentley, eine Biographie |year=1868 |publisher=Leipzig }}
* {{cite book |last=Monk |first=James Henry |authorlink=James Henry Monk |title=The Life of Richard Bentley, D.D. |year=1833 |publisher=J. G. & F. Rivington |location=London }} Retrieved on 23 February 2008.

* {{cite book |last=Hildebrand |first=Franck |author=Hildebrand |title=Aus der Menschkeit |year=1856 |volume=2 |publisher=E. N. Verlag |location=London|accessdate=10 October 2008 }}
Quite astonishing! Everyone should give it a whirl. It's often hilarious, and the possibilities seem endless.


So... For scientifical research purposes only, I've been adding AI-generated paragraphs to dozens of articles on a certain Wiki-based encyclopedia.

From obscure historical stubs all the way up to Featured Articles, so far every edit made with this app has escaped notice.

It is already clear that at a minimum, with careful selection of input text and a modicum of editing, this app will successfully hoodwink nearly all patrollers and a high percentage of "regular" editors most of the time.

With practice and a bit of luck one can create and add fully referenced paragraphs utilizing fewer than a dozen mouse-clicks from start to finish.


Preliminary conclusion:

A small but dedicated crew of HTDers could wreak havoc with this device.


:cthulhu:


ps. Bonus! Also great for fictitious John Peel Festive 50 lists!
Festive Fifty (1986)

50. H.I.N.P. - "The Sound Of An Eye"
49. Chancesome Woman - "You're probably a woman, aren't you?"
48. The Nitty Gritty Dirtbastard - "The Night The World Told Me I Should Be Naked"
47. Rodeo Man - "Don't Worry, Motherfucker We're Only Rodeoing"
46. The Ties That Bind a Man - "I'll break this chain until I get what I want" (Cocoa Tampons Mix)
45. My God, The Man - "Lies You've Committed in the Name of Love"
44. Canned Pussycat - "I think my hair's on fire, I'm going to be cold for a while, and it's a bazillion fun"
43. Cactus Man - "No, I'm not a Cactus"
42. Tired of Being a Bummer - "Back on the River/Tattoo of a Fetus"
41. Jittery Kid (Goddess) - "The One Where The Boy Is a Horse"
40. You Are Good Enough for Me - "You made me feel this way, thank you"
39. Tractor Beebox - "Ginger Snaps Out of the Boneyard with an Electric Spin"
38. The Police - "Rocking in the Morning, Old Chubbies"
37. The Rude Bear - "Twat" (My Little Muffler Jive Remix)
36. Bumpy Bumpy - "Hey baby, you wanna play with the fat girl? Let's be friends... (I'm just a puppet)"
35. Frank Sinatra - "I'm gonna beat it out of you / But if you come back I'll be here."
34. I Know How You Feel - "You're the only one who can fix our broken road - And I'm the only one who can fix our broken house..."
33. The Black Mamba's - "What do you call a tree? A ghost (in a dress)!"
32. Sigh In Your Grave - "A song about the pain of living, the heartbreak of being an adult, and the joy of being alive"
31. Bored As a Festering Dead Rabbit - "My heart's in the wrong spot so it's a bit of a surprise"
30. Spinning Black Butterfly - "The death of an elephant and your name in the papers"
29. The Fuzzy Puppies - "An old man who's got a smile on his face and is smiling for a reason"
28. Vicky's Holiday - "Shrieking Christmas Sweater. Full of Gourds."
27. Shimmery Chasm - "Crazy Stoned"
26. King Jeeves - "A Big Ass Gump / Fungus On Your Finger!"
25. A Girl Called Oui - "The puking of your lover's puke"
24. No Rest for the Wicked - "The Pregnant sock on the face of a dead whore"
23. My Friend's Home - "It is not only your house. It is every house in the house in the house!"
22. Emotional Homunculous - "Dance with the Devil" (feat. James Corden)
21. The Unspoken - "The Ghost that sings all night long"
20. I'm a Man - "I am a man, I do what I want and I'm gonna live forever"
19. Bizarre Fats - "Oy My God How Do You Look, Jesus?"
18. Baked Potato - "Baking with my hands? No worries, I'm a giant!"
17. How Can You Be in Love with Me - "I'm a human being but I look at you like an insect"
16. Silly Me - "Honey, I'm an expert"
15. No More Fear - "I know my limits, it's just my first night on the moon"
14. Crawlspace - "You Can't Win' With a Dog"
13. Punks Don't Cry - "Bitch I'll Take My Hat Off (Punk's Nightmare)"
12. Wasted Space - "We'd rather just spend one afternoon with a dead man than spend the rest of our lives on the streets, right?"
11. Vomitman - "Jekylog's Rejuvenator"
10. I Can't Sit Still - "How many times can I say this? I want to kill myself!"
9. Muffin Man - "Saw you in my kitchen. You're no different than me"
8. The Unfortunate Consequences - "What do you call someone who's been sent to space, without a map to the planet, and can't talk to their own planet's resident monkeys?" (Lady Eurydice version)
7. Crippling Nightmare - "Parasitic Lifeforms of Space-Time Mapping Syndrome"
6. Belly up And Farty - "Flaming Belly Up, Farty Belly Down"
5. Bog-Eyed Child - "My brain is dead, and the only thing that keeps me sane are a few red dots on a string"
4. Dr. Nihilist - "Muppet Cakes (N-Word Version)"
3. Hulking Puma - "I'm a fucking hulking Puma, right?"
2. Bunch of Black Men - "In The Hall Of The Mountain King" (The Raging Bull Version)
1. Chewbacca on Ice - "Jawbones for the Little One"
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Poetlister » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:22 pm

It doesn't work very well with literature.
The Owl and the Pussy-cat went to sea
In a beautiful pea-green boat,
They took some honey, and plenty of money,
Wrapped up in a five-pound note.
The Owl looked up to the stars above,
And sang to a small guitar,
"O lovely Pussy! O Pussy, my love,
What a beautiful Pussy you are,
You are,
You are!
What a beautiful Pussy you are!"
"What a beautiful Pussy you are, What a beautiful Pussy you are!"
"What a beautiful Pussy you are, What a beautiful Pussy you are!"
What a beautiful Pussy you are, What a beautiful Pussy you are!" "Oh, Pussy," cried the Owl from her window. "Oh Pussy, my love! Oh Pussy, my love!
What a beautiful Pussy you are, What a beautiful Pussy you are!" "Ahhhhhhhh," said the Pussy-cat, "This is the most
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Unread post by Poetlister » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:26 pm

It was the afternoon of my eighty-first birthday, and I was in bed with my catamite when Ali announced that the archbishop had come to see me.
My old friend and fellow-student had no idea what happened to me. He left me behind, went into retirement, and I didn't even know he was gone. He never said anything about it, but that day his wife left him and was taking care of their children.

A few days later, the first of my family, who was a nun, came to visit me and I was amazed that she thought that the bishop was coming to see me; she was also surprised because I had said that all the girls were married.

One day, while I was reading my book, I came across the word, 'felix.' I read a passage about felix de león, which means 'great king.' I found that it referred, like this, to the king. There is this saying that felix de león is the one who has a lot of wives.

I thought, if such a thing is an expression for kingship, then why don't I just use this term in my book and give it its full meaning? And then I read on, 'He has more wives than one.'

In my eyes, this has all been possible because I can use this
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:56 pm

CrowsNest wrote:Trolly McTrollface here, that's who you people really are. Juvenile little shits, only concerned with how you can punch Daddy in the balls, even though Mommy here was telling you that both your parents are responsible for so frequently dropping you on your head, scrambling your circuits. Perhaps Mommy even more so, because she only has to stay at home keeping you safe inside the house. Daddy has to go out and work to keep the lights on, keep the playroom stocked with toys, and guard the door against all external threats to your cossetted little life in middle class suburbia.

But even knowing all these things with every fiber of my being, when I hear the snickers all the time, why does Daddy still get to take care of you when you're so far away? I don't really have time to read all this stuff anymore, and I really don't want to deal with all the shitty shit being directed at me by the likes of that douchebag. What's this, you're worried about how I'll treat you? Oh, stop it. You don't need to talk to me this way. I think you'll get over this, kid. Well, I think I need to make my point anyway.

What? You're scared like that on purpose? Huh? What? Why were you? Why did Daddy so insist on being here anyway? Why was he even still there? Why did you keep going until every thought in your head turned to hate? Why did you never ask a single question before?

Would ArbCom have done a better job disciplining Fram was obviously not the question at hand. Why did ArbCom not lodge a formal protest, much less resign en masse or otherwise alert the community so they could decide if they wanted to shield Fram from the WMF's impending wrath and formulate a sound strategy for doing so, once the Committee were made fully aware of what was about to happen?

When ArbCom finally made that decision to do so it seems likely they made at least some effort to inform and address those who were impacted by Fram's behavior. And the best part about this is that the decision in retrospect clearly wasn't made by ArbCom alone. It might have seemed like a reasonable response for them to make given the overwhelming public consensus on the matter, but it certainly was not because ArbCom alone decided.

Fram's behavior did come under scrutiny as part of the investigation by the Office that enforces the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Crimes Act, a section 3302 law which protects the rights of individuals to share their copyrighted material through digital technologies. A couple of weeks ago the Ontario Court of Appeal issued some clarifying rulings that had implications for the case. Specifically, the court noted that once copyright protection is removed from such material, this means that the materials still remain subject to copyright...
Giraffe Stapler wrote:Vigiliant is a kind of digital smoke generator and use the same tactic as Romaine, a lamppost is made of iron=>I am right.
He takes as many facts he can find, mix them up with his one fantasy and interpretations and present that as the holy true.
And, the autistic part of the wikipedias are not able to see he has putted everything in a wrong context because they don't see a context at all and see only those facts in Vig his fantasy context.


That, the autistics do see the way.
I am, indeed a part of Vigiliant's cult.
I also have other theories as well: Vigiliant may believe that he knows everything, but he knows not how, I know, not everyone knows everything.
For example, he says you can use a gun to kill a sheep. Yes, and you know that a gun can be made by someone.
Not only so if you use a tool to make a gun in your own hands; you can use your imagination. If you want a car like Vig, you can just make a car and put a hammer in it and drive somewhere else. It's a whole other level of power and it can easily be used in a way no one can imagine.
All this is possible due to the fact his brain is a computer he is not aware of and therefore not able to understand.
Nailed it.

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Katie » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:08 pm

That's very accurate to their posting styles and wickedly funny!

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by mendaliv » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:35 pm

I put the first two sentences of the Navy SEAL copypasta into it. It almost perfectly completes it.
“It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people.” United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 68, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J. dissenting).

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by mendaliv » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:45 am

Here's an excerpt from a passage Transformer just made for me. It's quite poignant, if a bit schizophrenic towards the end:
It is vital that the Department of Trust and Safety is seen as a partner and not as an intruder as the community should feel comfortable with the "Trust and Safety" program as there will be certain areas that will not receive full protection due to distrust as a result of distrust.
“It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people.” United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 68, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J. dissenting).

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Unread post by Dysklyver » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:51 pm

I think perhaps this tool could be very useful. I put some of Jan Eissfeldt's response to the Fram controversy into it, and it was completed really well.
Dear members of the English Wikipedia community,

My name is Jan Eissfeldt and I’m commenting in my role as Lead Manager of the Wikimedia Foundation Trust & Safety team about the team’s recent investigation and office actions. In addition to this comment, the Trust & Safety team will be making a statement at Arbitration Committee Requests/WJBscribe tomorrow.


Let's begin with Wikipedia in the hands of a small number of individuals with great intentions. These individuals are in the business of selling and editing articles, not providing for and defending the interests of a vast community of users. On one hand they claim they are helping Wikipedia become more transparent, on the other hand they are creating an environment of hostility where there can be no disagreement between the editors and the contributors — a situation that can have consequences when the Trust & Safety team is called upon to investigate issues (see the Wikipedia Helping Users blog post for more details).

To help make things right I invite anyone who has knowledge about what we can do to contribute to this effort. I believe that when we discuss it at Arbitration Committee, the best way to avoid conflict is through open discussion and constructive disagreement. If you want to help help resolve Wikipedia– the great Wikipedia community that I care so deeply about, or anyone else looking to do so — please contact us so we can have more productive discussions
Really spot on. :blink:
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Unread post by Poetlister » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:33 pm

Let's try it on Vigilant.
Yes, yes, yes.

This is only exacerbated by the hiring practices of the WMF.

It's challenging enough for judges to render fair and impartial rulings.
They go through law school, pass the bar, practice as attorneys for years and then go through an election where their record is vetted prior to ever sitting on the bench.

The WMF has hired countless people whose sole qualification is that they spend a lot of time on IRC or vote the way WMF staffers like.

Trust and Safety his hired people with incredibly shady pasts.
None of them have the slightest clue what jurisprudence looks like.

It's as though the WMF hired felons on the premise that they must know how to dispense justice because they've seen the justice system first hand.


The court's policy is to grant a dismissal to anyone convicted of a felony if (1) he's serving 30 days in jail, or (2) he has a prior record of criminal conduct that does not relate to his current position.

As if we've forgotten what the First Amendment means?

No one else saw these people's past crimes and would have accepted their word for what they did for law school when they gave themselves 90 days on the bench.

Even if you have a criminal past, it makes no sense for a judge
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by tarantino » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:12 pm

Donald Rumsfeld
Transformer sort of meanders off topic after a few sentences.
There are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.

And then there are things that we now know we know we don't know that we still do know. We know the probabilities of a lot of things. This is the same principle, in principle. What we know can be more true than something we really know, or less true than something we don't know, or the reverse. In fact, what we know we don't know is not something we really know - not only is it not true - but it is actually false. And there are very few people in the world who are in denial of this. There is no one in charge of such an organization with its own office in Los Angeles , for which there are no regulations, except perhaps the law of supply and demand. No one in charge of this organization has ever told me that they can't take people or let people go, or what, because of who they love or because of what they say, or because of what they do. No one at this organization ever told me they could do away with love or sex or the family . If it sounds like I am being a bit too picky I would

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:46 am

Hello! My name is Jimmy Wales, and this is my user page. I go by "Jimmy" in real life, but often by "Jimbo" online. People sometimes assume that "Jimmy" is only a nickname for "James", but it's actually my full first name.

I was born on August 7, 1966, in Huntsville, Alabama. I founded Wikipedia on January 15, 2001. Since 2006, I
have changed, but not much. I've mostly stayed the same for about 18 years, but that's really nothing compared to some other people in the world that I know. At the beginning, people were afraid of me, they wouldn't let me meet their eyes for over 3 months because the Internet was something new, exciting, or something that made people want to meet a weird person and share information with them. And then the days passed by, and the Internet evolved even more than that. It's been a wonderful, wonderful journey so far with every community I've been in.

A little trivia, I am one of the few people in the entire World to be born "without arms". I was born without arms in 1996 (this was during one of my first trips to Japan, where I lived with an adult son). I have a family of over 45 children and have several hobbies (the latest of which: watching my favorite TV show with my 5-month-old daughter), along with a professional side-job, making and selling websites. And if you're wondering, I'm the biggest editor in history of Wikipedia's history, after Michael Jackson. This is not a knock on my staff. Their expertise is great, so I take pride in that. I also consider myself someone who will make good money from Wikipedias I edit about.

As you might guess, I had a rough childhood growing up; I was quite the loner, and my parents never got along. As a result, the only place I knew for a home was foraging for food in the woods and occasionally sitting on a tree stump for hours during school. The townsfolk used to tease me about my thick fur. "You don't look too good!" they'd say. Sometimes, I would see my cousin's friends and family, and they would have grubs for dinner. As a freshman in high school, I realized that if I didn't eat, I might starve. I would have to run away. All I wanted was to live to be 20 and have my own grandchildren.

I'm probably the weirdest person and most uninvited guest at a Wikipedia workshop and I'm not here to brag or complain. I was recently asked to come up with something funny for the Wikipedia discussion at a dinner hosted by Wikipedia. I didn't know what I was doing or what it was called, so I said, "Wikipedia, there's a bunch of shit you've got to have: Wikipedia, Wikipedia, Wikipedia. Let's go with Wikipedia!" for several minutes.

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Unread post by Poetlister » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:04 pm

Midsize Jake
Anyhoo, I'm not sure how much public credit, if any, the participants in this particular investigation want to take because it is, after all, an indictment of a specific individual. Suffice to say that all of the info in this blog post has been available out there for a long time now, really just waiting for one or more particularly enterprising and clever WPO members to come along and connect the dots. So, my thanks to them, and I also apologize for sitting on this post for over a week while I argued with myself over whether or not to "tone it down." (Which I'll admit I might have done, just a little bit.)

But the whole thing strikes me as a really smart and impressive piece of work which deserves a lot more attention. And I have no doubt that the outcome of this investigation will prove itself useful for many, many of the folks around the net and beyond whose lives were destroyed and lives were left in ruins by "an outside actor's" efforts to alter the course of history. Of course, the biggest question is whether or not they will ever learn that "their" actions are simply part of a long history of acts of willful and intentional government corruption, deceit and deception aimed at manipulating history and setting them against one another and against themselves to achieve their own ends.

On that score, I can only hope so,
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Unread post by mendaliv » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:33 pm

ArbCom’s mailing list has historically been leaky. I am not fond of it. Also if I trust the entire committee I also am trusting that none of them have any malware on their computers or compromised email accounts. The attack surface of the committee is bigger than one or a few members. The threat level they pose to society is huge because of the size of their network.

When I was on the committee my mind was set on protecting the internet from cybercriminals. I did not consider the impact on businesses or on society.

Recently, as chair of the US Senate Intelligence Committee, I am facing calls to investigate Russia/Euromaidan; Russia/trolls; Russia hacking; the DNC hack.

Russia's cyber attacks are the first I have heard of since 2009. They seem to me to be the first that is not directed at American interests and that seems to fit a Russian state that's already looking to disrupt and exploit Western infrastructure. Many US and European banks have reportedly been victims. What role do Russian state media play today in this effort to steal Western secrets, influence US elections, and to disrupt public trust in our system of government.

What do YOU think? Should Congress investigate the Russia/Euromaidan situation? Sound off in today's WND Poll
Perhaps a little too topical.
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:52 am

Smiley wrote:A small but dedicated crew of HTDers could wreak havoc with this device.
UPDATE: One of my accounts has been awarded a barnstar for edits generated by the Transformer!

:rotfl:


A celebratory poem:
I like to think
(it has to be!)
of a cybernetic ecology
where we are free of our labors
and joined back to nature,
returned to our mammal
brothers and sisters,
and all watched over
by ichthyosaurs, and
lion-people.

The mighty birds of prey
(you and I, birds of prey!)
that we cannot see, but know.
And if you have a heart full of blood
and desire to fight to the death
(in the sky)
the world is ours!
We are the bearded beasts,
the giant birds.
That's the world we walk together in.
We will get it right.

I want to think
(it has to be!)
this isn't just some old woman
who likes the feel of her muscles,
yet another in an ongoing succession of female-driven
romance stories.


I understand that computers are no utopia. If computers were so awesome,
there would be a vast, vast market for them..

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Smiley wrote:UPDATE: One of my accounts has been awarded a barnstar for edits generated by the Transformer!
A triumph for AI! :B'
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by mendaliv » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:47 pm

Oh my god guys. 4chan's sports board hates this. So very, very much.
“It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people.” United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 68, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J. dissenting).

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mendaliv wrote:Oh my god guys. 4chan's sports board hates this. So very, very much.
Is that something in Transformer's favour? :evilgrin:
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Unread post by mendaliv » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:41 pm

This thing's ability to rattle off fake baseball stats is astounding.
The problem for the Pirates may not be the potential right-field upgrade, but the continued slide of Jason Heyward. He's on pace for .295/.380/.560 this year, with 27 home runs and a 122 OPS+ from 2015 in the outfield. To put some more context, in 2014 he had a .297 batting average in this field, but just hit just .219. Those two numbers alone are huge numbers.
(This is 100% generated text by the way; the seed is in the previous paragraph and is about a completely different team and player.)

I'm not a stats-head so I don't know if those are coherent, but similar paragraphs have gotten responses from people in the MLB threads. I'm thinking this works best with little-known minor leaguers and minor league teams, since the reactions I've gotten for fake stuff about real players has mostly been confusion (e.g., "Is there another so-and-so I don't know about? The pitcher with the Orioles is a different so-and-so ([rattles off stats]).").
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:52 pm

mendaliv wrote:Oh my god guys. 4chan's sports board hates this. So very, very much.

This thing's ability to rattle off fake baseball stats is astounding.
Transforming the sum of all human knowledge as we speak.


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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:36 pm

If someone (else) can get an article generated by Transformer to stick for a whole month, let's say a minimum of 5,000 words, fake quotes, dubious facts, iffy references, basically all of it nonsense, then I'll donate a hundred quid to the charity of their choosing.

First to prove it wins.


I'll double it should your entry reach Good Article status.

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Unread post by mendaliv » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:43 pm

I should've done this earlier: The garbage this thing generates from statutory language or quasi-statutory language is AMAZING. Here's its take on the MLB infield fly rule:
An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.

If the player has his feet in play and no one in the infield is in sight, and, with great care and effort, he makes the flyball before being out of reach of a catcher, the ball will be caught. If the ball hits the bat or stands on the ground before being caught, it will be caught.

A FLY is not a fly ball even if thrown behind or behind the catcher's head on a ground-out.

There is no rules governing the call of a fly that hits a fielder on sight.

When one fielder or two attempts to hit the ball, after it has come within 200 feet of third base, to avoid touching the fielder, this is called a fly ball and so is one that hits the runner at short and at a ball (ground out), and another called a fly ball when a runner has thrown his or her own ball into play and is coming into position for the catch.

When two or more players...
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:50 pm

Seriously, these things promise to be revolutionary in the world of Autistic Care.

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:06 am

Smiley wrote:If someone (else) can get an article generated by Transformer to stick for a whole month, let's say a minimum of 5,000 words, fake quotes, dubious facts, iffy references, basically all of it nonsense, then I'll donate a hundred quid to the charity of their choosing.

First to prove it wins.
This isn't a joke by the way.

Maybe someone could drum up a bit of publicity on WP?

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Poetlister » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:40 am

Smiley wrote:If someone (else) can get an article generated by Transformer to stick for a whole month, let's say a minimum of 5,000 words, fake quotes, dubious facts, iffy references, basically all of it nonsense, then I'll donate a hundred quid to the charity of their choosing.

First to prove it wins.

I'll double it should your entry reach Good Article status.
It should be possible. There are a few articles with that description already, though probably not produced by Transformer. Of course, it is easy to cheat by amending the Transformer output to make it look even better.
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:48 am

Poetlister wrote:There are a few articles with that description already ...

Heh heh.
Poetlister wrote:Of course, it is easy to cheat by amending the Transformer output to make it look even better.
A little tinkering here and there is fine.

Was thinking New Articles only, but all submissions are welcome and gratefully received.


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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:44 am

The prize money is here in front of me, and to prove it, I've just uploaded some pictures to commons:

[Edit] Oops! best hide that...
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by tarantino » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:33 am

Subterranean Homesick Blues take 2

Johnny’s in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
I’m on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he’s got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It’s somethin’ you did
God knows when
But you’re doin’ it again
You better duck down the alley way
Lookin’ for a new friend
The man in the coon-skin cap
By the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten


I am alligator fish in a jar
In my eye


So you get down there and try to sell

But then your friend gives up

The two of you start talkin’ about how

The man in the trench coat

Says he’s got a bad cough

The man in the casket says to go outside

The man with the pipe gets inside of his shirt

He says I do not want this’ you’ get out and go

Ain't you crazy?

Do this for me son

There's some kind of magic

We are in the deeps

We got to learn to talk together

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by eagle » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:12 am

Abortion in Wyoming is legal. Access to abortion correlates to a number of other women's health rights issues, including maternal death, insured pregnant women, infant and child deaths, teen drug and alcohol abuse, and cancer screening. 48% of adults said in a poll by the Pew Research Center that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. By 1950, abortion was a criminal offense in Wyoming. Abortion legislation tried and failed to get passed in 1997. A fetal heartbeat bill was introduced in the Wyoming House of Representatives in January 2013 but never made it out of committee. In January 2017, a mandatory ultrasound law went into effect but it lacked an enforcement component.
The number of abortion clinics in the state has been on the decline in recent years, going from eight in 1982 to five in 1992 to one in 2014 and remaining at
15 in 2015. Since 1999, Wyoming's Planned Parenthood Federation of America has closed nearly 70 clinics across the state, as states have passed laws requiring abortion providers to receive admitting privileges at local hospitals after admitting patients to the health departments in the cases of rape, incest, or in cases of life endangerment. 59,000 individuals are now uninsured under Medicaid. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, 43% of women of reproductive age in Wyoming live below the poverty line. As of 2016, there were less than 500 abortion clinics in the state.

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Unread post by Randy from Boise » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:53 pm

Hmmmmm, give them another decade to work out the bugs. Or turn it over to WMF and they can make it a default feature of the software with no substantial changes...
The New York Call was established in 1908 as the New York Evening Call. It shifted to morning production on June 28, 1909. Today New York Evening Call is the most commonly viewed call (50% of all NYC TV households tune into it). The Call is also the most searched for call, with over 12 million searches being conducted on Yahoo! News alone.

Calls are made in New York City from 11:00am to 9pm on weekday mornings and from 7:00am to 8:00pm on Saturday mornings. However, on weekends, a different call schedule may be used (11:00am-2:30pm, 3:00am-5:00pm).

What happens today

With today's call center improvements, callers can expect some changes as they transition from dialup, to dial-up data, to dial-up.

The New York Evening Call team worked with the New York City Public Library's Internet dial-up system to test how often the call was used and how quickly. They looked to see if data from the public Internet service provider dial-up service would show up in the Call Center's data. They found that the Call Center's data didn't show up until several thousand calls later, so the team chose to reduce the data volume.

The New York Call, as it was known today, was created by.......

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Unread post by Randy from Boise » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:58 pm

Transformer wrote: We are in the deeps

We got to learn to talk together

I like that.

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Randy from Boise wrote:Hmmmmm, give them another decade to work out the bugs. Or turn it over to WMF and they can make it a default feature of the software with no substantial changes...
Yes, it might not be sensible for the WMF to try to improve it when you consider the job they've done with the Visual Editor!
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Unread post by mendaliv » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:06 pm

Well supposedly there's a better version, but the people who created it refused to publish it for fear of it being used by bad actors. Lah-dee-dah.
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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:52 pm

US President Donald Trump has blamed a teleprompter going "kaput" for a glaring anachronism in his Independence Day speech.

He told crowds on 4 July the Continental Army "took over the airports" during the American Revolutionary War in the 1770s.

Observers quickly pointed out there was no air travel in 18th Century America.


This was a problem for the US Army because military communications in America at that time were limited by railroads, but in the mid-1800s, there was one major network that sent signals through air – the telegraph. So the Continental Army got a lot that way.

US President Trump delivers his Independence Day address on 4 July at the Pentagon. Here are some of the highlights from his address. (Raja Choudhury/AFP to the Getty)

The problem, we were told, with the airways during the Revolutionary War was the British used the telegraph to communicate, and so the Continental Army's planes would take over the airways in time to refuel.

So, the air forces took over the planes to send messages that didn't have the time and logistics of modern wireless systems.

No wonder the Continental Army pilots wanted to do much of the maintenance for themselves.

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Unread post by Zoloft » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:40 pm

I threw a bit of Vachel Lindsay at Transformer.

Death is an Elephant,
Torch-eyed and horrible,
Foam-flanked and terrible.

Tobacco, the smoke-cloud it throws up,
Tops on the hillside above the street of the old factory,
And the sky in the smoke is not the one the old factory,
Is it? It is the one in the smoke, which is the one that is old,
Like a flower blooming in a field with white flowers
The blue flower, with the white cloud around it. And you,
Don't you know in a dark dream
I dreamed the same, and now I'm here. I'm lying still
In the smoke and the day is past.
It has long passed that I had to go to live there,
And never to come back. But I found it a good-bye to go.
The old factory was never going to stay.
So I will wait till the day of my death, in the old town,
Which the street behind the old factory is named after.
Oh, oh, oh!
I'm dying, and it's a great old street. And there are all the people you know
And you have forgotten me. I'm an elephant, and I'm a big elephant!
But it's still the same story, the story of a street. That's all. I remember the big elephant, but I never got to know him.
The Elephant
When the elephants are happy, they'll sit down and start to play
That's just me sitting here
So I can sit here. I'm like the same old me. You know
And, you know, I'm not even the same one. I'm the same old, I'm the Same Old Me. I'm the same old.
And no one notices anymore
That's when all of a sudden, it's dark
And then you don't want to remember it
Then I say in a sudden, wild voice
I'm so lonely, but I'm really nice, right? Oh yeah.
I could tell you about that time you saw me
It was such a shock for me at first Because we are not friends
The elephant was gone, you know, he was gone when I saw you.
But, one day, and I knew what you were doing,
Then you just remembered everything I said
And just started to sit. And, you know this big elephant thing
You sit down, I know this big elephant thing
If you can't sit down then sit down.
If you can't sit down then you just, you know, go and sit
Well, there, now I can make sense of all
If you can't sit down then we'll have this elephant again, okay?
Well, now, I'm getting hungry, I've got to get to the bus. I need the food
So just, you know, eat a little bit.
But then you get up and start walking. And then you leave, you know, all alone.
There's something wrong with me now. My heart breaks when I'm here.
Then I don't know where to go. I feel so strange.
I didn't see you,
And I don't know why I got so angry. I don't know
Why I got so angry. It's all the same to me. It's all the same to me. It's all the same to me
But don't say 'cause I can hear you now!
It's a pity.

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Unread post by rhindle » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:44 pm

The first verse to "I am the Walrus"

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how they fly
I'm crying
Sitting on a corn flake
Waiting for the van to come
Corporation T-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday
Man you've been a naughty boy
You let your face grow long
I am the egg man
They are the egg men
I am the walrus
Goo goo g'joob'oob'oob

I'm coming from the moon and I'm here
I am the egg man
They are the egg men
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how they fly
I'm crying
Sitting on a corn flake
Waiting for the van to come
I'm sitting outside at the park
I'm standing on a white tarp
I can't make a hole
So I'm just letting things float by
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how they fly
I'm crying
Sitting on a corn flake
Waiting for the van to come
Comes with a black guy who doesn't play
Now his name is Paul Ryan
I want a black man
I want a black man for president
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how

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Unread post by mendaliv » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:19 pm

Bolded is 18 U.S.C. § 1951 (interference with commerce by threats or violence). I had to add linebreaks to the output to make it actually readable.
(a) Whoever in any way or degree obstructs, delays, or affects commerce or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by robbery or extortion or attempts or conspires so to do, or commits or threatens physical violence to any person or property in furtherance of a plan or purpose to do anything in violation of this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(b) As used in this section—

(1) "Offense" means any of the following acts or omissions:
(A) An act constituting any part of a conspiracy or conspiracy attempt to commit any of the offenses specified in paragraph (1) of subsection (a) of this section.
(B) An act constituting or involving a violation or conspiracy to commit acts specified in paragraph (2) of subsection (b) or paragraph (3) of subsection (l)(2) of this section.
(C) An act constituting or involving a violation or conspiracy to commit any of the following acts or omissions specified in paragraph (4) or (6) of subsection (l)(6) of this section:
(i) A sale, conveyance, or transaction in violation of any law, rule, instrument, or regulation of the United States or of any State or local government.
(ii) The possession of an article used in violation of that law, rule, instrument, or regulation.
(iii) The distribution of money, property, goods, or services in violation of that law, rule, instrument , or regulation.
(iv) A violation of paragraph (5) of subsection (j) of this section.
(v) A violation of section 1322.0 (11 CFR 758.17).
(vi) A violation of article 397.5 (11 CFR 758.17 and...
The big problem with this thing and statutes is that it doesn't seem to know when to exit subsections/subparagraphs on its own. It just keeps going deeper and staying down there. I've also noticed in a lot of output, it will create a "double conjunction", like above in the fake (b)(1)(A): "a conspiracy or conspiracy".
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:02 am

I've generated several John Peel Festive Fifties with Transformer.
Here's one from 1974:
50. The Fickle Faeries - "A Taut and Lumpy Road"
49. Dr. Peebles - "Bones On Wheels" ft. Jossy & the Dirty Dogs
48. The Wacky-Owling Singers - "Swingin' Wacky Around The World"
47. Jaxon McBride - "Let Me Tell You About The Flop" (Instrumental)
46. The Flaming She-Moses - "Take Off Your Wigs and Tights"
45. Blue Sushi - "Moonshine Dreams" (Direwolf/Direvision)
44. Yelling Leonard - "You Ain't That Girl (Whew)"
43. The Grouchy Cucumber Club - "I'm goin' to make an omelette in my own mouth"
42. The Gossamer Groove Boys - "Bicycle Hikes"
41. The Raggedy-Haired Man - "If You Were a Rich Man I'd Sell That Bag of Cash (I Need a Girl)"
40. Mr. Green - "Pump Your Kids"
39. Elwood Jones - "Tit-Tot Chunky (It's Cool to be Purple)"
38. The Rains of Castrum - "Carmen the Third's Last Dance"
37. Brickshank - "Wake me when the tide goes back to the sea"
36. The Wigwam Wiggles - "He looks like he's wearing a robe, and he smells like manure"
35. Roddy McDaid - "A Brief History of Radio"
34. Tommie Sunshine & The Dandelions - "A Very Bad Decade for Dogs" (LP version)
33. Chasm of Tiberius - "I've Got All The Ways"
32. J.J. Smith & The Wurts - "A Little Less Batter"
31. The Muckety Grubs - "Penny Lane Won't Let You Down"
30. Dandy Jack - "Jelly Belly's a Little Snatchin'" (feat. Bill Haley)
29. The Red Ostrich Smokers - "A Bad Trip for a Good Man"
28. Obey the Law - "Dingdong (You will not pass, you will not be accepted)"
27. The Blue-eyed Pea People - "Funny Book"
26. Lonesome Dove - "Seed-O" (feat. D'Angelo & Burt Bacharach)
25. The Shrimps - "My Boyfriend, What Is a Man?"
24. Sootey - "Dusk to Black and White (Bust Up)"
23. The Tops and the Bottoms - "Woo Hoo!"
22. The Sideslippers - "That's No Love (That's Love)"
21. The Fiddler's Green - "Blueberry Day"
20. Astrid S - "Honey, You've Danced Too Long"
19. Black Moth Super Rainbow - "Danger of a Free Press"
18. The Littlest Whiskers - "No Time for Pretension (I was born just like you)"
17. The B. B. King & His Band - "Eyes in your Eyes"
16. Fuzzball Dog - "Merry Christmas Pigeonhead" part 1
15. Painted Faces - "You're going to have to go home with me"
14. Little Bitz - "Lose My Clothes Tonight" (LP)
13. Estranged - "Punching at trees"
12. Kinkie Stinky - "Mama's Sock"
11. The Jousting Chieftains - "Lullaby Of The Goose-Riding Goose"
10. Ookay & Crayon & Buggles - "Stir Your Own Nuts" (LP version)
9. The Drowned Cities - "In my mind is my memory"
8. Robert Nelsons - "You know, I should've killed that man I loved back there"
7. Wildcat Rival - "All my bones are shattered"
6. The Humble Bunch - "Oh my Lord, it's a shame that I'll die / Because you're gonna come in and kill the sun, oh my Lord"
5. The Raveonettes - "Bubblestacks and Crows and the King in Yellow"
4. John Masego - "Pumpkin's on the Moon" ft. The Wrigley Girls & Hanging City
3. Fauna - "Hush the wasp (in your heart)"
2. The Voodoo Floshers - "Bruising out at night"
1. The White St. Bernard – "We're Fingers Away" (Live version)
The next task is to record a music video for each song.
Transformer will do the lyrics, does anyone know of a good AI music maker?

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Unread post by mendaliv » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:03 am

Smiley wrote:I've generated several John Peel Festive Fifties with Transformer.
Here's one from 1974:
50. The Fickle Faeries - "A Taut and Lumpy Road"
49. Dr. Peebles - "Bones On Wheels" ft. Jossy & the Dirty Dogs
48. The Wacky-Owling Singers - "Swingin' Wacky Around The World"
47. Jaxon McBride - "Let Me Tell You About The Flop" (Instrumental)
46. The Flaming She-Moses - "Take Off Your Wigs and Tights"
45. Blue Sushi - "Moonshine Dreams" (Direwolf/Direvision)
44. Yelling Leonard - "You Ain't That Girl (Whew)"
43. The Grouchy Cucumber Club - "I'm goin' to make an omelette in my own mouth"
42. The Gossamer Groove Boys - "Bicycle Hikes"
41. The Raggedy-Haired Man - "If You Were a Rich Man I'd Sell That Bag of Cash (I Need a Girl)"
40. Mr. Green - "Pump Your Kids"
39. Elwood Jones - "Tit-Tot Chunky (It's Cool to be Purple)"
38. The Rains of Castrum - "Carmen the Third's Last Dance"
37. Brickshank - "Wake me when the tide goes back to the sea"
36. The Wigwam Wiggles - "He looks like he's wearing a robe, and he smells like manure"
35. Roddy McDaid - "A Brief History of Radio"
34. Tommie Sunshine & The Dandelions - "A Very Bad Decade for Dogs" (LP version)
33. Chasm of Tiberius - "I've Got All The Ways"
32. J.J. Smith & The Wurts - "A Little Less Batter"
31. The Muckety Grubs - "Penny Lane Won't Let You Down"
30. Dandy Jack - "Jelly Belly's a Little Snatchin'" (feat. Bill Haley)
29. The Red Ostrich Smokers - "A Bad Trip for a Good Man"
28. Obey the Law - "Dingdong (You will not pass, you will not be accepted)"
27. The Blue-eyed Pea People - "Funny Book"
26. Lonesome Dove - "Seed-O" (feat. D'Angelo & Burt Bacharach)
25. The Shrimps - "My Boyfriend, What Is a Man?"
24. Sootey - "Dusk to Black and White (Bust Up)"
23. The Tops and the Bottoms - "Woo Hoo!"
22. The Sideslippers - "That's No Love (That's Love)"
21. The Fiddler's Green - "Blueberry Day"
20. Astrid S - "Honey, You've Danced Too Long"
19. Black Moth Super Rainbow - "Danger of a Free Press"
18. The Littlest Whiskers - "No Time for Pretension (I was born just like you)"
17. The B. B. King & His Band - "Eyes in your Eyes"
16. Fuzzball Dog - "Merry Christmas Pigeonhead" part 1
15. Painted Faces - "You're going to have to go home with me"
14. Little Bitz - "Lose My Clothes Tonight" (LP)
13. Estranged - "Punching at trees"
12. Kinkie Stinky - "Mama's Sock"
11. The Jousting Chieftains - "Lullaby Of The Goose-Riding Goose"
10. Ookay & Crayon & Buggles - "Stir Your Own Nuts" (LP version)
9. The Drowned Cities - "In my mind is my memory"
8. Robert Nelsons - "You know, I should've killed that man I loved back there"
7. Wildcat Rival - "All my bones are shattered"
6. The Humble Bunch - "Oh my Lord, it's a shame that I'll die / Because you're gonna come in and kill the sun, oh my Lord"
5. The Raveonettes - "Bubblestacks and Crows and the King in Yellow"
4. John Masego - "Pumpkin's on the Moon" ft. The Wrigley Girls & Hanging City
3. Fauna - "Hush the wasp (in your heart)"
2. The Voodoo Floshers - "Bruising out at night"
1. The White St. Bernard – "We're Fingers Away" (Live version)
The next task is to record a music video for each song.
Transformer will do the lyrics, does anyone know of a good AI music maker?
Use a vocaloid to sing the lyrics haha
“It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people.” United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 68, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J. dissenting).

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:11 pm

Some Lewis Carroll. Not a very impressive result.
"The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all his might:
He did his very best to make
The billows smooth and bright —
And this was odd, because it was
The middle of the night.

The moon was shining sulkily,
Because she thought the sun
Had got no business to be there
After the day was done —
"It's very rude of him," she said,
"To come and spoil the fun."
And when he was gone, it was hard —
"I'd take good care to save that thing —
My hands are cold and dry,
And there is nothing for which we may do."

The sea was cold; but the wind seemed to move it;
The waters stood still — the sea-shore was calm and level —
And the little blue island, so small and tender
(That the old man, in his youth, could not touch it when there,)

(But I had seen her at every beach,) the little house had stood for more than a century, and had stood ever since, and had grown into a large and well-appointed cottage.

The old man went
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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:10 pm

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. For no form of government exists which does not involve conflict, hostility, discord and opposition: and this inevitably results from the connection of governments, when they are compact, consisting of individuals empowered to make treaties, provide for the common defense, regulate commerce, and a host of other public functions: and when these powers are surrendered in favor of an oligarchy, anarchy, tyranny and oppression reign supreme.

The gradual transformation from one form of government to another is inevitable: and when this occurs, not only is liberty impossible, but there can be no permanent security for it. It has been a long train of revolutions, civil, religious, political, speculative, which have shaken this union of freemen into many pieces, in which the liberties of every member have been sacrificed and violated by foreign enemies, and the public safety is endangered by violent combinations: and as these have been brought into being not by the violent will of the few, but by the consent of the greater number, so these great dangers must inevitably follow.

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Randy from Boise » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:17 am

Smiley wrote:The prize money is here in front of me, and to prove it, I've just uploaded some pictures to commons:

[Edit] Oops! best hide that...
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Apologies, I meant this one:
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You said "quid" and show greenbacks. Something is awry.

RfB

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:07 am

"Jimbeau [Wool's nickname for his former boss] was certainly not frugal in his spending on his endless trips abroad, but when it came to handing in receipts, he could be somewhat careless," Wool wrote in a post on his personal blog.

Wool said Wales, 41, later tried to claim the cost of a $US0.50 ($0.54) train ticket in Moscow, a trip to a massage parlour in Moscow and $US650 spent on two bottles of wine during a dinner for four in Florida.


"He went, 'I'm flying to Florida tomorrow just to eat in Florida'," Wool said. "And the next day, he came over and told his accountant 'I'm living in Russia'." A man visiting Britain in July said Wales was asking for $US9m to buy a house with a pool in the Hamptons or $US10 million to buy more properties in Toronto and Paris.

Wales said: 'I took money from the foundation when the fund was going down because there wasn't money to get it back before the credit card came due in October 2007." His lawyer said his client "has absolutely no excuse for what he did".

Wales was sentenced to five years behind bars by Judge John Thomas after pleading guilty to the charge of conspiracy to commit bank fraud. He also took a mandatory four-year ban on using a mobile phone and internet. He was given an indigo prison uniform with a red cravat and white shirt with a silver star, but was not allowed to touch others in the prison.

Wales now appears to be homeless. One of his supporters wrote on Twitter: "I know you're the #MoneyGuy but it seems you're living in a car with no shoes."
Wales admitted that in June this year, on a train to the resort of Krasnodar in Siberia, he paid $US65 ($80) to an unknown person to take pictures of himself holding the Russian President Vladimir Putin's sign.

During the trip, he was "strictly in the public interest", his lawyer told the court.

Wales was also found guilty of breaking into an office at the United Kingdom's Foreign Office in February to enter an electronic database and downloading computer files in the process.

#JimmyWales #JimboWales #Russia #Russian #Moscow #Muscovy #MassageParlour #MassageParlor #Receipts #WMF #WikiMediaFoundation #FramGate #FramBan

Earlier this week, Wales was publicly humiliated by estranged girlfriend Rachel Marsden, 33, who released saucy instant message transcripts between the pair and auctioned off some of Wales' clothes on eBay after he apparently broke up with her via a statement on Wikipedia. The chat transcript shows Wales going through proposed changes to Marsden's Wikipedia entry.

"Let's actually do this right now," Wales allegedly wrote. "Because the last thing I want to do is take a break from fucking your brains out all night to work on your wikipedia entry."


Wales, who also goes by the internet handle "Giant", admitted to making his comment in front of other Wikipedia editors. When questioned about the exchange, Wales argued that his Marsden comment was about helping "the people." The comment was later deleted and the comments were not shared on the site for several months.

Watch: GIPHY: 10 Things You Need to Know About Wales

"Let me tell you something mate, if you want to get to a better, fairer world that's my baby," he allegedly responded. Wales' new page currently only features his new, apparently more laid back attitude.

"I can certainly answer any of your questions," "Sneaky Pete" wrote on his personal Facebook page, before apparently deleting his message.

A source told the newspaper: "Not only did [Wales] fail the online degree he promised, but he also went full fucker for the whole year by adding his penis in one sentence to a Wikipedia entry about his penis."
Wales continued, "I'm not just going to stop when it gets to be 9:30 and you all just want to go to bed. I'm not going to let go until at least 10. Then we are off to the races.

"Also, maybe we could do all the hard things at the top. Like get a dog?"

Wales continued, "It's all about having fun."

Wales is expected to defend his honor on Oct. 12 at the National Association of Bar Associations convention.

#JimmyWales #JimboWales #Russia #Russian #Moscow #Muscovy #MassageParlour #MassageParlor #Receipts #WMF #WikiMediaFoundation #FramGate #FramBan

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Unread post by mendaliv » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:11 am

Jimbo “Giant” Wales :rotfl:
“It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people.” United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 68, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J. dissenting).

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by eagle » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:33 am

mendaliv wrote:Bolded is 18 U.S.C. § 1951 (interference with commerce by threats or violence). I had to add linebreaks to the output to make it actually readable.
(iv) A violation of paragraph (5) of subsection (j) of this section.
(v) A violation of section 1322.0 (11 CFR 758.17).
(vi) A violation of article 397.5 (11 CFR 758.17 and...
The big problem with this thing and statutes is that it doesn't seem to know when to exit subsections/subparagraphs on its own. It just keeps going deeper and staying down there. I've also noticed in a lot of output, it will create a "double conjunction", like above in the fake (b)(1)(A): "a conspiracy or conspiracy".
A subsection or article of the US Code would never have a Code of Federal Regulations cite, and the CFR cite would not be the same for two different sections/articles. Fram would be the best at spotting this sort of mistake. How can you release "Talk to Transformer" into the wikiworld at the same time that you sideline Fram into the penalty box?

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Unread post by Poetlister » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:23 am

Smiley wrote:
"He went, 'I'm flying to Florida tomorrow just to eat in Florida'," Wool said. "And the next day, he came over and told his accountant 'I'm living in Russia'." A man visiting Britain in July said Wales was asking for $US9m to buy a house with a pool in the Hamptons or $US10 million to buy more properties in Toronto and Paris.

Wales said: 'I took money from the foundation when the fund was going down because there wasn't money to get it back before the credit card came due in October 2007." His lawyer said his client "has absolutely no excuse for what he did".
This is a bit near the bone! :rotfl:
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by mendaliv » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:48 am

Wiki loves Pride
Wiki loves Sport
Wiki loves Monuments
Wiki loves Earth
Wiki loves Love
Wiki loves Africa
Wiki loves Women

Wiki loves Men; not all of them
Wiki loves People
Wiki loves Women who are gay, lesbian, trans, or otherwise queer; not all of them
Wiki is a wiki, not a magazine or website. Wikipedia is not a "blog". If you find a mistake make a correction. However, if you find something interesting to be said on Wikipedia, please add it to Wikia.com.
“It is a fair summary of history to say that the safeguards of liberty have frequently been forged in controversies involving not very nice people.” United States v. Rabinowitz, 339 U.S. 56, 68, 69 (1950) (Frankfurter, J. dissenting).

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:35 am

mendaliv wrote:
Wiki loves Pride
Wiki loves Sport
Wiki loves Monuments
Wiki loves Earth
Wiki loves Love
Wiki loves Africa
Wiki loves Women

Wiki loves Men; not all of them
Wiki loves People
Wiki loves Women who are gay, lesbian, trans, or otherwise queer; not all of them
Wiki is a wiki, not a magazine or website. Wikipedia is not a "blog". If you find a mistake make a correction. However, if you find something interesting to be said on Wikipedia, please add it to Wikia.com.
:banana:
Wiki hates Sex
Wiki hates Words
Wiki hates Friendship
Wiki hates Humor
Wiki hates Movies
Wiki hates Music
Wiki hates Podcasts
Wiki hates Philosophy
Wiki hates Politics
Wiki hates Religion
Wiki hates Spoons
Wiki hates Tattoos
Wiki hates World
Wiki hates You
Wiki hates Yours
Wiki hates Women's studies 2nd to 5th grades
Wiki loves Literature Source: the Wikimedia Foundation Source: the Wikimedia Foundation Wiki's Wikipedia Page
Wiki loves Julian Assange, the former British Prime Minister, who had been arrested and questioned by the United Kingdom's High Court.
Wiki loves Men and Boys
Wiki loves Women for Women's Equality
Wiki loves Animals for Men's Equality
Wiki loves Animals for Women's Equality
Wiki loves Books about Girls (especially Girls)
Wiki loves Men (or women to some extent and men with an asterisk)

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Unread post by Poetlister » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:20 pm

However, if you find something interesting to be said on Wikipedia, please add it to Wikia.com.
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Superb!
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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by Carcharoth » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:54 pm

AI writing Wikipedia articles is likely what will kill it. Maybe sooner than we think.

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Re: Talk to Transformer

Unread post by gentlegnome » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:27 pm

On June 8 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation released a statement regarding their ban of the administrator Fram. The Foundation stated that Fram was banned due to:

a) His involvement in the Wikipedia scandal, including allegations of hacking and censorship.

b) His involvement with pedophilia and organized crime, including allegations of money laundering and hacking.

c) His support for Islamaphobia and his support for Islamic extremism, including allegations of spreading hate speech around the world.

d) His support of terrorism and his connection to terrorism, including the allegation of aiding terrorism and the murder of US President John F. Kennedy.

I'd like to quote Wikipedia's own statement that includes some context and clarifications from the past week:

Wikipedia is, to its credit, not a safe space for hateful rhetoric or threats. As such it is prohibited to create or edit articles regarding individuals and groups deemed to be dangerous or potentially dangerous. However, since July 2015 we have added an explicit and detailed ban concerning individuals and groups identified by Wikipedians as potentially a threat/victim of violent acts, including the recent Boston Marathon bombing and possible ISIS incursions. If an individual or a group is determined to be a danger/victim of such acts, a notice will be posted on the editor's article in the Wikipedia entry, along with detailed information on what the threat means.
It all makes sense now...

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