Wikitribune - the next great Wales failure

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:10 pm

tarantino wrote:Jimmy's now planning on moving Wikitribune to a mediawiki platform and hire a community journalism engagement liaison.

An absolute requirement is deep knowledge of “the wiki way” including extensive experience with MediaWiki, including the use of templates, modules, gadgets, etc. While this is not a developer role per se, the more you know about and can effectively support users doing advanced technical mediawiki work, the better.

A lesser requirement – desired but not required – is experience/education in journalism.

Evidently, community liaison is not necessarily a required ir even desired skill.

It looks like a Wikipedia admin might be well suited.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:23 pm

tarantino wrote:Jimmy's now planning on moving Wikitribune to a mediawiki platform and hire a community journalism engagement liaison.

What are the odds that the 'winner' of this job is a young(er) woman that Jimbo wants to fuck?

Dysklyver · Unread post by **Dysklyver** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:34 pm

Vigilant wrote:
tarantino wrote:Jimmy's now planning on moving Wikitribune to a mediawiki platform and hire a community journalism engagement liaison.
What are the odds that the 'winner' of this job is a young(er) woman that Jimbo wants to fuck?

Well pretty much certain. I mean Jimbo is dedicated to encouraging women into the workplace, right?

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Vigilant wrote:
tarantino wrote:Jimmy's now planning on moving Wikitribune to a mediawiki platform and hire a community journalism engagement liaison.
What are the odds that the 'winner' of this job is a young(er) woman that Jimbo wants to fuck?

That's fine, as long as she has deep knowledge of “the wiki way”, which might include that activity.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:00 pm

With any luck, we'll all get a chance to bid on a TShirt again.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:33 pm

Vigilant wrote:With any luck, we'll all get a chance to bid on a TShirt again.

Seriously, if Jimbo misbehaves then the media storm will dwarf the Rachel Marsden one, and if Jimbo doesn't know that, he must be daft. His current wife has all the right contacts. Every news outlet except Wikinews and Wikitribune will be full of it.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:30 am

Poetlister wrote:
Vigilant wrote:With any luck, we'll all get a chance to bid on a TShirt again.
Seriously, if Jimbo misbehaves then the media storm will dwarf the Rachel Marsden one, and if Jimbo doesn't know that, he must be daft. His current wife has all the right contacts. Every news outlet except Wikinews and Wikitribune will be full of it.

So, it's virtually guaranteed then.

Unread post by **Midsize Jake** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:49 am

Look, folks, let's not just automatically assume that everyone Jimbo hires is going to be an attractive young woman, and that he will automatically attempt to have some sort of steamy sexual affair with said woman once hired. I mean, it could instead be the sort of fumbling, awkward, barely-worth-mentioning affair that's typical of the British middle class - which Jimbo seems to aspire to membership in - and besides, how do we even know if anyone (regardless of gender) will actually take the job? Sure, there are lots of borderline-insane people around who might be desperate enough to work for someone with Jimbo's entrepreneurial track record, or even (yikes!) Jimbo himself, but like I always say, past performance is not always a reliable indicator of future embarrassment. He could easily surprise us - we just don't know.

So please, let's not risk making our readers all squishy and uncomfortable just because, you know, "we've seen it before." Unless of course we actually do want to set up some sort of betting pool on this, and maybe try to make some serious money off of it.

Randy from Boise · Unread post by **Randy from Boise** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:55 pm

Midsize Jake wrote:Look, folks, let's not just automatically assume that everyone Jimbo hires is going to be an attractive young woman, and that he will automatically attempt to have some sort of steamy sexual affair with said woman once hired.

I thought you were a statistician.

RfB

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:33 pm

Randy from Boise wrote:
Midsize Jake wrote:Look, folks, let's not just automatically assume that everyone Jimbo hires is going to be an attractive young woman, and that he will automatically attempt to have some sort of steamy sexual affair with said woman once hired.
I thought you were a statistician.

RfB

Randy from Boise · Unread post by **Randy from Boise** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:57 am

Probability theory.

Go ahead, ruin my joke.

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Unread post by **Midsize Jake** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:03 am

Randy from Boise wrote:Go ahead, ruin my joke.

Well, exactly. I was going to say that I've never claimed to be a statistician, but then I figured I should at least give it the best possible chance.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:14 pm

Midsize Jake wrote:I was going to say that I've never claimed to be a statistician, but then I figured

Tha's the first step, certainly.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:52 pm

From WiredUK WikiTribune was a bold attempt to reinvent journalism. It didn't work.

According to other former staffers (who asked not to be named), that was not the project’s only miscalculation. They paint a picture of generalised improvisation and lack of direction, in which founders scrambled to chart a way forward while failing to grasp the practicalities of journalism and news-gathering. Wales wanted to rescue journalism, but, to his team, it was not clear whether he understood journalism in the first place.

On twitter, Jimmy is livid. He says, "This story has numerous errors and grave misrepresentations and needs some serious correction immediately."

.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:23 pm

This is from a reliable source. Does Jimbo have other sources to refute this?

For a bonus point, can someone write an article on Wikitribune based on this?

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:17 pm

In further analysis, WikiTribute was just another fumbling attempt from Wales to monetize soft headed altruists.

Plagued by incompetence and rife with Dunning Kruger, WikiTribute stumbled, inevitably, towards the trash can of Jimmy's bad ideas taking a bunch of other people's time and money with it into the abyss of perpetual project mismanagement.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:36 pm

Vigilant wrote: In further analysis, WikiTribute was just another fumbling attempt from Wales to monetize soft headed altruists.

In that series of tweets linked above, John Bambenek lays into Jimmy.

Oh, so you mean to say that all the money Wikimedia makes all goes to people who aren’t actually doing the work? That’s an amazing margin maximization model.

I said all the people paid at wikimedia aren’t creating the content. That is a predatory model. The people creating the content should get paid first not the myriad of middle management bureaucrats grifting off the volunteer effort of others.

lol

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:52 pm

Donations to Wikipedia have zero influence in editorial decisions, which are all made by volunteers.

Mr Wales, Jeff Merkey is on line 1...

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:52 pm

And Rachel Marsden wants to know what constitutes a "donation"...

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:25 pm

I said all the people paid at wikimedia aren’t creating the content. That is a predatory model. The people creating the content should get paid first not the myriad of middle management bureaucrats grifting off the volunteer effort of others.

This is especially true of the huge donations from Google and other large Internet firms. They are paying to avoid arguments about use of Wikipedia content. Such copyright as the content has does not belong to the WMF.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:32 pm

Jimmy has apparently gotten all of the twitter responses deleted as of this morning.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:42 pm

Vigilant wrote:Jimmy has apparently gotten all of the twitter responses deleted as of this morning.

I still have that tab open and saved a screenshot.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190417153 ... witter.com

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:33 pm

tarantino wrote:I still have that tab open and saved a screenshot.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190417153 ... witter.com

The Internet never forgets anything.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:53 pm

https://twitter.com/Temuchin7/status/11 ... 3205651461

Can't delete that.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:22 am

Apparently bambenek deleted those tweets himself "Because arguing on the internet with the self-righteous is stupid."

https://web.archive.org/web/20190418032 ... 070976?p=v

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:57 am

tarantino wrote:Apparently bambenek deleted those tweets himself "Because arguing on the internet with the self-righteous is stupid."

https://web.archive.org/web/20190418032 ... 070976?p=v

He's quite right there of course. Note Jimbo's comment "I didn't notice you arguing. Insinuating falsehoods isn't an argument."

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:42 pm

In another not-stunning and entirely predictable news flash, impossible.com/labs, Lily Cole's tech venture that was supposed to power WikiTribune, is a 404.

Most of the WT links that were on the impossible.com are also 404.

Site Statistics for wt.social are pretty pathetic.

Stats 24 hours
Members 153
SubWikis 3
Posts 220
Follows 2074
Friendings 4
Comments 37

There are webrings on geocities with more activity than this place.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:44 pm

WT_Social (T-H-L)

Quoted in the Stanford Social Innovation Review for Summer 2020, Wales said: "We're not doing a good job of actually exposing the best stuff on the platform. So that's kind of our next phase in evolution."[7] This approach involved highlighting contributions by public figures.[7]

How's that working out there, Jimbo?

Unread post by **tarantino** » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:49 pm

Building on the success of wikitribune, wt.social and werewolf nights, Jimmy now brings us quiznightbeyond.com .

Giraffe Stapler · Unread post by **Giraffe Stapler** » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:34 am

tarantino wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:49 pm
Building on the success of wikitribune, wt.social and werewolf nights, Jimmy now brings us quiznightbeyond.com .

Moral Hazard · Unread post by **Moral Hazard** » Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:14 am

Digital Life Design (T-H-L)
"Digital Life Design (DLD) is a global conference network, organized by the Munich based DLD Media, a company of Burda Digital."

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:40 am

tarantino wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:49 pm
Building on the success of wikitribune, wt.social and werewolf nights, Jimmy now brings us quiznightbeyond.com .

Get notified!
We will be launching around March 1st, leave your email here and we will contact you when we are ready.

March 1st, which year?

thekohser · Unread post by **thekohser** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:35 pm

Poetlister wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:40 am

tarantino wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:49 pm
Building on the success of wikitribune, wt.social and werewolf nights, Jimmy now brings us quiznightbeyond.com .

Get notified!
We will be launching around March 1st, leave your email here and we will contact you when we are ready.
March 1st, which year?

The Quiz website currently says, "We will be launching around mid-July, leave your email here and we will contact you when we are ready."

Since it is July 14th now, and not the 15th, I don't think we can quite say we are to "mid-July" yet, so give him time!

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:34 pm

If you look at recent changes, it's mostly spam.

thekohser · Unread post by **thekohser** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:34 pm

Quiz Night Beyond LTD is all set to collect those dollars and pounds and Euros!

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:51 pm

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:34 pm
If you look at recent changes, it's mostly spam.

I was speaking about wt.social/wikitribune.

Poetlister · Unread post by **Poetlister** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:24 pm

thekohser wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:34 pm
Quiz Night Beyond LTD is all set to collect those dollars and pounds and Euros!

Yes, this will finally make Jimbo into the Internet billionaire he has always longed to be.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:31 pm

Just took another peek at wt.social recent changes.

It's a bleak, post nuclear war wasteland that would daunt Max Rockatansky.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:37 am

Another couple of months in and recent changes is sad, sad, sad.

Just close the domain down, Jimbo.

This is embarrassing.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:56 am

lol, one of the latest posts.

Is there credible evidence that Marge Green, Gaetz, and Ted Cruze are members of a satanic cult in which they engage in obscene relations with underage roosters?
It is not surprising the GOQanon is resorting to transference considering the number of perverts in their midst. Trump. Graham, Gaetz, Jordan, Nunes.
Not all Republicans are perverts but a Univ study revealed that 98.76% of all perverts are Republican.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:09 pm

Jimmy Wales Solicits Donations for His Ad-Free Social Network

"I need your help," reads an email that Jimmy Wales just sent to financial supporters of his ad-free social network, WikiTribune Social (which currently has 494,296 members):
All the problems in the world that I've set out to try to solve with WikiTribune Social are as bad as ever... WikiTribune has a different model. A strange model, to be sure, but it's one that I believe in. We don't want our platform to grow by focussing on having as many pageviews as possible by maximizing addiction and outrage. We want to build something that people like you care enough about to support voluntarily, financially. It's a "pay if you want" model. I've joked many times — it may not be a great business model to give things away and hope people will voluntarily support them — but this is how I've built my career so far!

We are severely short on funds

Huh, that's too bad.

Giraffe Stapler · Unread post by **Giraffe Stapler** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:48 pm

tarantino wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:09 pm

We are severely short on funds
Huh, that's too bad.

I don't see fundraising campaign making much of a difference. According to their stats page, there were all of 89 posts in the last 24 hours. About half of those were spam for software cracks or keygens. Lack of money isn't the problem. Lack of interest is the problem.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:10 pm

The tagline should be, "Wales goes the full Trump on fundraising"

Unread post by **Zoloft** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:37 am

At this point, we should offer to buy it out and redirect the URL to http://cornbread.com/.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:22 am

93 posts in the last 24 hours.

Still sucking, Jimmy.

Unread post by **tarantino** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:31 pm

Looks like google stopped indexing wt.social in April even though there's been 50-100 posts per day and their robots.txt doesn't disallow it.

wt.social/robots.txt (which redirects to d2f6apjwdsvtu.cloudfront.net/3afeff5e-30cf-4645-931b-b601d1b69f06/robots.txt)

Code: Select all

User-agent: *
Allow: /
Disallow: /gi/*
Disallow: /post/*

Unread post by **tarantino** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:54 pm

Jimmy's trying to reboot wikitribune again. It's now trust cafe and he's asking for donations.

Vigilant · Unread post by **Vigilant** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:39 pm

tarantino wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:54 pm
Jimmy's trying to reboot wikitribune again. It's now trust cafe and he's asking for donations.

The grift never ends.

Neither does the incompetence.