Wikidata and the Google Knowledge Graph

[Zoloft]

And here I was thinking of answers along the lines of Octavia and Cleopatra.

You and me both.

[thekohser]

And here I was thinking of answers along the lines of Octavia and Cleopatra.

You and me both.

You folks are living in the wrong era. Don't you know what's important nowadays?

[thekohser]

Another blunder by Google -- it thinks that when you look up information about Alabama, you'd want to compare that with Mississippi, the US state immediately to the west, and Georgia, the foreign state 6,400 miles to the east.

[Johnny Au]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

[thekohser]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

Separatist conflicts killed some, led others to emigrate, and persuaded those who remained (presumably) to have fewer babies.

[Midsize Jake]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

Emigration and low birthrates, due to internal violence and an on-again-off-again war with Russia (over South Ossetia's separatist conflict), mostly.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/article/g ... -aftermath

It's the same thing Russia would like to see happen in the United States, and for the moment at least, they're doing a fairly good job of it.

[Bezdomni]

It's the same thing Russia would like to see happen in the United States, and for the moment at least, they're doing a fairly good job of it.

Who's they? the owners of Obama Pizza in Kaliningrad? Google doesn't list any Russian Trump Pizzerias.

I'm not sure that Far Eastern Russians are particularly pleased seeing their next-door neighbor shooting missiles around.

As far as I know, nobody's claimed the Russians were behind the Mandalay Bay shooting.

sorry,

[Poetlister]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

A substantial part of Georgia is occupied by the Russians. Does the population refer to the whole country or exclude the occupied area?

[Johnny Au]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

A substantial part of Georgia is occupied by the Russians. Does the population refer to the whole country or exclude the occupied area?

The whole country

I find it extremely odd that searching for Alabama's population has a graph showing the population of Georgia (the country whose capital is Tbilisi) rather than Georgia (the neighbouring state whose capital is Atlanta).

[Randy from Boise]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

A substantial part of Georgia is occupied by the Russians. Does the population refer to the whole country or exclude the occupied area?

The whole country

I find it extremely odd that searching for Alabama's population has a graph showing the population of Georgia (the country whose capital is Tbilisi) rather than Georgia (the neighbouring state whose capital is Atlanta).

Time for some Georgia trivia!

Did you know that Georgia has its own church and its own alphabet?

Here's the hack Google translation of that sentence: იცით თუ არა, რომ საქართველოს აქვს საკუთარი ეკლესია და მისი საკუთარი ანბანი?

Did you know that ethnic Georgian names generally end in —idze/—adze or —ili?

As in Edvard Shevardnadze and Iosef Dzhugashvili...

Yep, that Dzhugashvili — Stalin was Georgian, not a Russian... even though he was a Great Russian nationalist.

Did you know that Georgia was the "Italy" of the old USSR in terms of climate — the heart of wine and fruit country? It was also the (first) home of organized crime there.

All sorts of fun facts...

RfB

[Graaf Statler]

How did Georgia lose over a million people in a span of a few decades?

A substantial part of Georgia is occupied by the Russians. Does the population refer to the whole country or exclude the occupied area?

The whole country

I find it extremely odd that searching for Alabama's population has a graph showing the population of Georgia (the country whose capital is Tbilisi) rather than Georgia (the neighbouring state whose capital is Atlanta).

Time for some Georgia trivia!

Did you know that Georgia has its own church and its own alphabet?

Here's the hack Google translation of that sentence: იცით თუ არა, რომ საქართველოს აქვს საკუთარი ეკლესია და მისი საკუთარი ანბანი?

Did you know that ethnic Georgian names generally end in —idze/—adze or —ili?

As in Edvard Shevardnadze and Iosef Dzhugashvili...

Yep, that Dzhugashvili — Stalin was Georgian, not a Russian... even though he was a Great Russian nationalist.

Did you know that Georgia was the "Italy" of the old USSR in terms of climate — the heart of wine and fruit country? It was also the (first) home of organized crime there.

All sorts of fun facts...

RfB

Georgia is absolute not Russia.
I know about about Georgia, because in the nineties many Pontic Greeks out of Georgia came to North Greece. They spoke Greek with a very heavy accent, couldn't write it, and drove in old Lada cars. I have spend a lot of time with them, and they told me much about Georgie, also this facts. They were nice people.
Most of them left Greece, and went to Germany. They were more Georgian than Greek, they didn't like Greece at all, their plan was from the first moment to travel to Germany.

[Poetlister]

Georgian is a weird language bearing no similarity to Russian (which is ultimately an Indo-European language). The only similar languages to Georgian are a few languages spoken in odd corners of Georgia and Turkey. However, lots of people can speak Russian. The alphabet is a corruption of the Greek one and was developed for the translation of the Bible into Georgian.

[Graaf Statler]

Russian was a kind of Esperanto in Russia and east Europe. In the village I was in Greece long ago were many people from Bulgaria, Albania, Moldova, and they spoke Russian or Greek together. They learned Russian in School. But they didn't speak it on a high level. Also that Pontic Greeks didn't speak Greek on a high level. It was a kitchen language for them, something you spoke with your grandparents in there kitchen. Georgian was there first language.

[Bezdomni]

The graffiti google spins up for a token like Georgia Puerto Rico population are more what you would expect.

There's nothing in the can for Hawaii Puerto Rico population.

[Carcharoth]

Adding a brief example of the Google Knowledge Graph conflating two people:

Google 'Henry van Straubenzee' and in the Google Knowledge Graphyou should get pictures of the grandson (died 2002) of Henry van Straubenzee (T-H-L), alongside an extract from the Wikipedia article.

There is a Wikipedia essay on this: Wikipedia:You can't fix Google through Wikipedia.

I sent feedback to Google, so maybe they will fix it.

It would seem trivial to avoid this conflation - why does this happen?

[Giraffe Stapler]

It would seem trivial to avoid this conflation - why does this happen?

Perhaps you could offer your services to Google to help avoid this trivial problem. How would you approach it?

[Carcharoth]

It would seem trivial to avoid this conflation - why does this happen?

Perhaps you could offer your services to Google to help avoid this trivial problem. How would you approach it?

Ah, you caught me out there. It is not trivial, but I said that to see what the response would be...

Maybe another way to put this is that this is not a mistake a human would make, but clearly whatever approach Google is taking, it can't yet distinguish the difference between an 18-year-old who died in a car crash in 2002 and a decorated army officer who served in WWII and died earlier in 2002 at the age of 88 before his unfortunate grandson.

[Presumably matching name and date of death is enough to get the article and images thrown together - but why is there no check on birth years which are different?]

This is in the news, btw, because a singer got mugged on the way to a charity concert held in memory of aforesaid 18-year-old who was friends with royalty who have since supported said charitable causes.

[Poetlister]

It would seem trivial to avoid this conflation - why does this happen?

Perhaps you could offer your services to Google to help avoid this trivial problem. How would you approach it?

Ah, you caught me out there. It is not trivial, but I said that to see what the response would be...

Carcharoth didn't say that it is trivial, only that it would seem trivial. No doubt, to the high-powered programmers that Google employs, it would seem trivial if it were pointed out to them.

[Giraffe Stapler]

It would seem trivial to avoid this conflation - why does this happen?

Perhaps you could offer your services to Google to help avoid this trivial problem. How would you approach it?

Ah, you caught me out there. It is not trivial, but I said that to see what the response would be...

Carcharoth didn't say that it is trivial, only that it would seem trivial. No doubt, to the high-powered programmers that Google employs, it would seem trivial if it were pointed out to them.

No. It wouldn't.