Misogyny on YouTube (ends up on Wikipedia)

[EricBarbour]

This one's a classic:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/0 ... n-youtube/

She's smart, well-spoken, and makes many good points. And gets flamed for it, literally thousands of times.

[TungstenCarbide]

This one's a classic:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/0 ... n-youtube/

She's smart, well-spoken, and makes many good points. And gets flamed for it, literally thousands of times.

at least she wasn't arrested.

[EricBarbour]

And it turned into a classic shitstorm......

http://www.gamespot.com/features/from-s ... y-6382189/

Sarkeesian’s Wikipedia page has been repeatedly vandalised, including adding images of hardcore porn (a woman with a cock in her mouth, naturally), and descriptions of Sarkeesian such as “an entitled nigger kitchen and hooker who focuses on drugs in popular culture and their association with tropes.” It goes on to make remarks about inserting sex toys in her “posterior”, multiple links to the more notoriously unpleasant sex acts, and perhaps most sinisterly of all, refers to her throughout as “it”. You don’t have to be a psychoanalyst to draw conclusions from the attempt of such vandals to render her as without a sex. Another vandalism attempt saw a description of Sarkeesian as a “cunt” make it into the excerpt on the first result for her name on Google – something that was posted with pride on various forums, including the Escapist. According to Wikipedia, at least a dozen people were actively part of this attack.

http://www.pmsclan.com/content.php?task=detail&pid=641

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/inter ... thing-nice

The intimidation and harassment effort has included a torrent of misogyny and hate speech on my YouTube video, repeated vandalizing of the Wikipedia page about me, organized efforts to flag my YouTube videos as "terrorism", as well as many threatening messages sent through Twitter, Facebook, Kickstarter, email and my own website. These messages and comments have included everything from the typical sandwich and kitchen "jokes" to threats of violence, death, sexual assault and rape. All that plus an organized attempt to report this project to Kickstarter and get it banned or defunded.

This one has links to other instances of gamer women being harassed online:
http://www.themarysue.com/the-all-too-f ... -about-it/

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/06/ ... ist-games/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/ga ... sian-tyler

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... line_.html

This one is quite amazing, as it quotes executives of the company responsible for Lara Croft:
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/14/lara_cr ... singleton/

“She’ll get taken prisoner by island scavengers. And then, Rosenberg says, those scavengers will try to rape her.” Because nothing makes a girl more likable than seeing her almost get raped.

It wound up on The Register: http://www.reghardware.com/2012/06/14/t ... llegation/

http://jezebel.com/5917887/when-theres- ... ow-to-feel

The history of her BLP speaks volumes.
Almost all IP addresses, all rev-deleted. (Well, not quite all.)

An ideal example of why 4channers, gamer man-boys, and online trolls love Wikipedia--they can use it to shit on people they don't like.

Request please: can anyone get me copies of some of the deleted revs, or screenshots? Just a small sampling will do, thanks.

[HRIP7]

Sarkeezian wrote about the vandalism of her Wikipedia biography here:

http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/0 ... wikipedia/

Note the clueful nature of some of the vandalism; wikilinks and adding a Nazi stub template. Tsk tsk.

[EricBarbour]

Note the clueful nature of some of the vandalism; wikilinks and adding a Nazi stub template. Tsk tsk.

There are any number of teen patrollers and gamer-boys on WP who could do this. I've got a couple of possibilities in mind already.....

You noticed that a couple of the deleted revs were made by IPV6 addresses? You have to be an IT expert to set up IPV6, so
whoever they are, they were either working for a big corporation that switched to IPV6, or knew how to set up IPV6 on their
home PC, router, modem etc.

I've been told there are HUNDREDS of diffs that were completely oversighted, and do not appear in the history AT ALL.

[Mason]

Note the clueful nature of some of the vandalism; wikilinks and adding a Nazi stub template. Tsk tsk.

I wouldn't call changing {{feminist-stub}} to {{nazi-stub}} "clueful", exactly.

[HRIP7]

Note the clueful nature of some of the vandalism; wikilinks and adding a Nazi stub template. Tsk tsk.

I wouldn't call changing {{feminist-stub}} to {{nazi-stub}} "clueful", exactly.

You have a point. I didn't know there was a stub template in the article to begin with. Still, I suspect most people you meet in the street, or a gamer forum for that matter, wouldn't have known to edit the stub template to vandalise the article, or known where to find a "suitable image" and how to insert it. What with all that challenging wiki mark-up ... I am quite convinced the people concerned are "valued members of the community" making "productive edits" to gaming articles by day.

[HRIP7]

I guess what this case also demonstrates is that the demographic that posts comments at YouTube and the like is hardly representative of the wider population.

[Rathel]

Note the clueful nature of some of the vandalism; wikilinks and adding a Nazi stub template. Tsk tsk.

There are any number of teen patrollers and gamer-boys on WP who could do this. I've got a couple of possibilities in mind already.....

You noticed that a couple of the deleted revs were made by IPV6 addresses? You have to be an IT expert to set up IPV6, so
whoever they are, they were either working for a big corporation that switched to IPV6, or knew how to set up IPV6 on their
home PC, router, modem etc.

I've been told there are HUNDREDS of diffs that were completely oversighted, and do not appear in the history AT ALL.

A Google page talks about IPv6 Day happening on June 6 of this year. IPv6 addresses should be more and more common. I don't know which internet service providers have switched over but Wikipedia has a global message to expect the IPv6 addresses to appear everywhere.


Edited for spelling issue.

[HRIP7]

There has been some discussion of Anita Sarkeesian on the Gendergap list

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ge ... /date.html

(the threads are Nastiness, positive action Re: Nastiness, On Ms. Sarkeesian - tropes - and notability)

I suggested yesterday that the Gendergap moderators invite her to participate in the list. No response to that as yet. I have a sinking feeling they might be too scared of rocking the boat to do it ... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

[EricBarbour]

... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

Yes, please do, if you can find a way to contact her. Email is unworkable, as she's been getting hate mail for years.

[Sweet Revenge]

... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

Yes, please do, if you can find a way to contact her. Email is unworkable, as she's been getting hate mail for years.

Her blog has a contact form:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/contact/

[The Wife]

There has been some discussion of Anita Sarkeesian on the Gendergap list

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ge ... /date.html

(the threads are Nastiness, positive action Re: Nastiness, On Ms. Sarkeesian - tropes - and notability)

I suggested yesterday that the Gendergap moderators invite her to participate in the list. No response to that as yet. I have a sinking feeling they might be too scared of rocking the boat to do it ... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

She'd be awesome.

[The Wife]

There has been some discussion of Anita Sarkeesian on the Gendergap list

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ge ... /date.html

(the threads are Nastiness, positive action Re: Nastiness, On Ms. Sarkeesian - tropes - and notability)

I suggested yesterday that the Gendergap moderators invite her to participate in the list. No response to that as yet. I have a sinking feeling they might be too scared of rocking the boat to do it ... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

Reading that list makes me sad. The subset of ridiculous topics deemed notable at WP that intersect with traditionally male interests is working its way towards infinity. The article is a keep. How on earth are people on a GenderGap mailing list apathetic or hostile to improving the article? Men improve practically nonsense articles all the time so they make WP policy wonks happy.

Geez Louise.

[EricBarbour]

There has been some discussion of Anita Sarkeesian on the Gendergap list
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ge ... /date.html

There are no reliable sources in the article which discuss Sarkeesian in-depth -- there is an interview on a blog, but this can't be used to base notability on.

As it stands now, Anita (who is hardly notable) had the misfortune to meet some trolls on the internet (welcome to Internet peoples), and now she is basically notable, because her un-notable Wikipedia biography was trolled with a pr0n imagem, and someone reported on it.

Anyone wishing to get their bio onto WP should use this case as an example of how to go about it.

The article should be at AfD, because as it stands now, it is everything that WP is not.

Russavia

This is rich, coming from a guy who was banned from eBay repeatedly for fraud.....and who has been running around the web, frantically
deleting all the mentions of his fraudulent past from every website he possibly can. (Don't bother, dude---I've got screenshots of them......)

Gendergap is worthless. Every time someone brings up a really ugly situation, Pete Forsyth or Sarah Stierch show up and start sniping
that it's "off topic". Most of the others apparently have brain damage, and go along with them. You're wasting your time, Andreas.
I see that you also brought up Holly Graf, and up pops Russavia, to screech "Is that an edit of the article, or a whitewashing of the article?"

[lilburne]

Gendergap is worthless. Every time someone brings up a really ugly situation, Pete Forsyth or Sarah Stierch show up and start sniping that it's "off topic".

I've noticed that too. With that lot trying to sort out the gender gap, it can only get bigger.

[Willbeheard]

With that lot trying to sort out the gender gap, it can only get bigger.

You never know. Maybe some have that as their intention!

[ErrantX]

Gendergap is worthless. Every time someone brings up a really ugly situation, Pete Forsyth or Sarah Stierch show up and start sniping that it's "off topic".

I've noticed that too. With that lot trying to sort out the gender gap, it can only get bigger.

Utter silence following my call the help improve historical coverage of women.

I give up with them; it's an echo chamber for activism.

[HRIP7]

... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

Yes, please do, if you can find a way to contact her. Email is unworkable, as she's been getting hate mail for years.

Her blog has a contact form:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/contact/

Thanks. I've invited her.

[The Wife]

... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time.

Yes, please do, if you can find a way to contact her. Email is unworkable, as she's been getting hate mail for years.

Her blog has a contact form:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/contact/

Thanks. I've invited her.

[piku]

Sarkeesian runs a site called Feminist Frequency where she blogs about women’s issues and the Internet. Her Kickstarter idea apparently hit a nerve, because her Wikipedia page were subject to attacks from a handful of video game forum members.

You can see a screenshot of Sarkeesian’s Wikipedia page here (warning: graphic language). There’s also a variety of hateful comments left on her YouTube page promoting the project.

By Molly McHugh at http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-med ... r-bullies/.

An archive of the talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anita ... /Archive_1

[dotdash]

Already discussed here. Not the finest moment for the internet.

[EricBarbour]

Not only that.....some pathetic manchild decided that Sarkeesian needed to be "punished", for running a successful fundraising campaign.
So he created a Newgrounds Flash game in which you can beat Anita Sarkeesian to a pulp. (Don't bother, Newgrounds already deleted it.)

(note: second thread merged into original.)

[thekohser]

Sarkeesian delivers an effective TED talk.

[HRIP7]

There is currently another AN/I thread on Sarkeesian.

The darlings over at Wikipedia have been discussing there for a week whether Niemti (T-C-L), a chap who suggests on the talk page of Sarkeesian's biography that she should have just ignored the appalling harassment she suffered at the hands of Wikipedia and other online forums rather than creating a "moral panic", or could have done things like "counter-attack literally using her vagina", should or should not be topic-banned from Sarkeesian's bio.

[Randy from Boise]

This one's a classic:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/0 ... n-youtube/

She's smart, well-spoken, and makes many good points. And gets flamed for it, literally thousands of times.

Wow. Just wow.

The fascist regime is closer than we think...

RfB