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PhDs: pad your CV by editing Wikipedia

Unread post by Mancunium » Thu May 08, 2014 8:47 pm

Improving Wikipedia: Notes from an Informed Skeptic
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As an American historian who studies the political economy of the antebellum period, I have always been fascinated by the panic of 1837—a financial cataclysm that is, according to one recent book, deserving of the term “America’s First Great Depression.” During the 2012–13 winter break, I typed “Panic of 1837” in the Wikipedia search field and found a disjointed entry listing only a few secondary sources. This was vexing, to put it mildly. The editors of Wikipedia had flagged the entry for biased or incomplete information and solicited a “specialist” in US history for improvements. I took it upon myself to improve the entry, and in the process I discovered important details behind Wikipedia’s Neutral Point of View (NPOV) policy, the ideologically charged subcultures that often tamper with these entries, and a potential explanation for why I was able to rehabilitate the entry successfully. As recently as two years ago, I was a strident Wikipedia critic, having become frustrated by too many Wikipedia-derived answers on student exams. But as I’ll show further, I have grown more optimistic about Wikipedia’s mission and believe that it embodies many of the values that academics hold dear. Among scholars there is a diverse spectrum of thought on Wikipedia’s utility. Former AHA President William Cronon saw mostly positives in encouraging historians to contribute more to Wikipedia, while Timothy Messer-Kruse’s ordeal underscores the pitfalls of a website that does not distinguish between expert opinion and that of the layperson and whose policy of verifiability precludes content based solely on inaccessible primary sources—making him a vocal Wikipedia critic. My position falls somewhere in between.

As I examined Wikipedia’s Panic of 1837 entry more closely, I noticed that practically all of the authors cited in the reference section were hard-line libertarians. The lone “external reference” was an informally written, selectively sourced paper written by an obscure historian who did not list his credentials and which was delivered at a conference hosted by the Ludwig Von Mises Institute (LVMI), an Alabama-based think tank unaffiliated with any university or independent process of peer review. [...] I spent several days of my winter break adding content and references to the site, and the editors of Wikipedia, presumably having approved my alterations, took down the flag that referred to bias and incomplete information. [...] I more than doubled the number of monographs and peer-reviewed journal articles in the reference ection and deleted very little of the preexisting text even if I deemed it suspect. Instead, I restructured the prose to make it more readable. This formula may not always work, but historians should try as much as possible to write in a descriptive manner on Wikipedia, not an analytical one, though admittedly this is counterintuitive to much of our training and the lines between these categories are not discrete.

Wikipedia skeptics make many valid points. There is no editor-in-chief who makes a final call on content. Collective wisdom may reinforce certain innate biases or prove erroneous over time. [...] Then there is the potential for the very existence of Wikipedia to devalue the artistry and labor of teaching and publishing. A few years ago, I wrote an entry for an encyclopedia project on American slavery with a well-known reference publisher. The editor informed me, after I had completed the piece, that the project would be discontinued indefinitely, in part because of competition from Wikipedia. [...] With the recognition that some of these issues will never go away entirely, I call on historians to dedicate their precious few hours of spare time to improving Wikipedia; as an incentive, I call on ­administrators to integrate Wikipedia contributions into the publication requirements for tenure. Recently minted PhDs currently face an existential job crisis with the vaunted goal of obtaining a full-time, tenured professorship proving more and more elusive. And here might be a way to enhance one’s CV in preparation for the next job interview. [...]

Stephen W. Campbell is a lecturer at Pasadena City College. His doctoral dissertation, completed in 2013 at UC Santa Barbara, analyzes the intersection of newspapers, financial institutions, and state-building in the antebellum era.
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Re: PhDs: pad your CV by editing Wikipedia

Unread post by EricBarbour » Thu May 08, 2014 10:06 pm

Tell him to come back in five years, and see how much of his writing is still there.

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Unread post by Mancunium » Thu May 08, 2014 11:29 pm

EricBarbour wrote:Tell him to come back in five years, and see how much of his writing is still there.
I am so impressed by Dr Campbell's scholarly analysis that I predict he will still be editing Wikipedia in five year's time.

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Unread post by thekohser » Fri May 09, 2014 4:43 am

Stephen W. Campbell is a lecturer at Pasadena City College.
College Measures, a joint venture of the American Institutes of Research and Matrix Knowledge Group, has created a chart for CNNMoney to help students find the best options. Based on the percentage of students that graduated within three years or transferred to four-year colleges, they compiled a "success" rating for each community college in the U.S.

...Pasadena City College Pasadena CA 50%

According to Wikipedia, 2012-2013 at Pasadena City College had the lowest full-time enrollments in 17 years.

In Spring 2013, in an unprecedented move, the Associated Students unanimously censured the administration and passed a vote of no confidence in the school's president, Mark Rocha, and collectively called for his immediate ouster.

Fred Phelps, the pastor and leader of the Westboro Baptist Church, is an alumnus.

Sounds like Professor Wikipedia will be leading those lucky students into the new tomorrow, huh?
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Unread post by HRIP7 » Fri May 09, 2014 1:36 pm

EricBarbour wrote:Tell him to come back in five years, and see how much of his writing is still there.
Steviebill83 (T-C-L). As far as I can see, he has not had a single talk page discussion. If so, he has barely dipped his feet into Wikipedia. He managed to improve a fairly obscure article, and is obviously pleased with the result, but should experiment a little more with Wikipedia.

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Unread post by Kumioko » Fri May 09, 2014 1:55 pm

I agree, its rather easy to edit obscure topics and avoid drama but lets see him try and edit something in the US Roads or Novels Wikiproject where the members of the projects won't allow non members to edit the articles or a highly controversial topic like Race and intelligence (T-H-L) or anything on a discretionary topic sanction.

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Unread post by EricBarbour » Sun May 18, 2014 2:14 am

Panic of 1837 (T-H-L) has been messed with by Von Mises fanboys for years, usually under IP addresses. Glad someone else noticed. The old "references" included one by Milton Friedman and two by, well howdy, Murray Rothbard.

It was 27k bytes for many years, due to a massive chunk that was copied directly from an 1888 book in 2006 (by Rjensen (T-C-L), another "professional historian", ha ha). Anyone who tried to remove it was reverted. Then in November 2011 an IP address chopped it down to 7k, and explained why. Then Mr. Campbell rewrote it completely, growing it to about 21k bytes.

Steviebill83 (T-C-L). I see NO evidence he interacted with anyone on WP while editing.

Mentioned on the Signpost Newsroom board.

Also, and this is the kicker: posted on Metafilter today. Read the comments, hilarious.
I think that the only appropriate response to this "proposal" is "fuck you, pay me".
posted by NoxAeternum at 4:45 PM on May 17 [15 favorites]
Please list your Wikipedia contributions to be considered towards tenure.
Added "Who?" citation request template for claim that "leading historians" describe Napoleon Bonaparte as "a short dead dude"
Reverted "LOL BUTTS LOL BUTTS LOL BUTTS" edit in the entry on Ramon Berenguer III, Count of Barcelona
Three week conversation on my User:Talk page with someone who wished to emphatically inform me that I was going to Hell for adding a reference to an approximate date greater than six thousand years ago to the entry for the Ubaid period
posted by Flunkie at 5:25 PM on May 17 [13 favorites]
The contributor culture there is apparently by and large toxic, territorial and reactionary. Read the talk pages and edit wars, they're tragicomedic epics.

Real scholars don't have time for that shit.

This is also why I'll always take Wikipedia with a few grains of salt. It's also the reason why you shouldn't ever use Wikipedia as a source in school papers.

All of the above, combined with Jimbo's smarmy, manipulative fund raising style, is a why I'll probably never donate to Wikipedia even if I could afford it. The culture there is kind of fucked up.
posted by loquacious at 6:11 PM on May 17 [3 favorites]

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